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9221  Economy / Gambling / Re: Monthly Best Gambling Site (February 2017) on: February 12, 2017, 04:00:15 PM
Congratulations to Directbet.eu for always winning the monthly best gambling site but it seems that there are only few voters and real gamblers aren't voting to their preferred gambling though this is a good survey. I'm thinking if other casino's will beat them to there position for being always the leading one. Well, in bitdice I trust.  Grin

It has been discussed many times before that this kind of poll is not representative enough, real gamblers does not really care about this poll. Directbet always leading the poll because they offers so many giveaways/contest and they always ask member here to vote for them while other sites never asked the same thing.

Serious? fortunejack do it some time ago, do not forget
ask and forcing very different so I think there's no problem if they ask for it Smiley

The same thing with PrimeDice  for the past polls but as of now I haven't seen many of them were visited this thread. It's a type of marketing because those casino's are making these type of threads to be a big deal to them and it's a good achievement to them to be named to be the best even on this type of thread.
9222  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: February 12, 2017, 03:41:09 PM
My gambling strategy is to play the skill-based game poker, so I can win longtherm and have not to worry about money.

The only problem is if the operator run away with your account balance or defraud you, but for this we have Game Protect consumer protection service. Wink

I admire you to play poker on long term basis because I did tried it before and I'm confident to say that I'm a good poker player. But my greediness and thinking of being always lucky is pulling me down and unfortunately I can't make myself go further in poker. And I found out that I'm good at sports betting, analysis is my strategy always.
9223  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Need your suggestion, may start a BTC lending service on: February 12, 2017, 02:51:23 PM
Here's where I need an suggestion or opinion!...
There's always users requesting loans without collateral, what do yall think of this.

"If the Borrower requested a loan without collateral, they could have a Default trust/Trusted BTCTalk Forum User with excellent Reputation either Vouche/or Co-sign the loan agreement?"


Good luck to your lending plan, but the question is those default trust member will have their time to vouch or co-sign for a guy that wants to loan without collateral? Because their name can be included if that guy will fail to pay you. Better to avoid headaches, just don't give loans to people that will ask you loan without collateral.
Having Collateral is strongly recommended. Default trusted members won't risk co-signing on a loan if they think the Borrower is going to default. I don't believe they would risk they're reputation on something of high risk

And why not just pursue that way of lending because lending without collateral is surely going to give you headaches, believe me. Let's say they aren't going to risk their reputation but some of them doesn't want to have headache too. Though I'm saying that always on the safe place is going to be the best choice, but with co-maker or co-signee it seems that DT's rep are the collateral, for me that is not going to work out.
9224  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it still worth it to trade? on: February 12, 2017, 02:38:59 PM
The price of bitcoin is really really unpredictable and it updates its price every minute. But with the current price, i think it is really good to trade bitcoins. Though i know buyers will wait for the low swing to buy some right.

It's always happening that buyers will always wait for the right time and even they will see that the price will decrease $20 and more, they will simply buy. And for me, it will be always worth it to trade whether it is with bitcoin or alt coins. As long as you know what you are doing, then you are going to be fine with it.
9225  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Other Bitcoin forum on: February 12, 2017, 02:16:37 PM
There's no other forum that is the same with bitcointalk.org if you are looking for signature campaigns. Because advertisers prefer to do it here because of thousands of target viewers that are into crypto currencies. And if ever there are new forums out there, still they can't defeat bctalk because the foundation of this forum is Satoshi.
9226  Economy / Services / Re: BitDice Casino Signature Campaign [WILL START 1 DECEMBER] on: February 11, 2017, 05:00:43 AM
Received payment thank you Alex and BoXXoB!  Kiss
9227  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Cloud mining/Investing or trading on localbitcoins? on: February 11, 2017, 04:51:15 AM

Hi.

I'm thinking of start selling bitcoins on localbitcoins for paypal and stuff, but I need to know which best way to double bitcoins is it cloud mining? investing or trading?

comment below, and no spam and this will be self moderated to avoid spams from ads posters.

thanks  Smiley

No man, cloud mining is not the best way to double your bitcoins, it is better if you are going to grow your bitcoins by simple trading on any exchange or trading platform. It seems that you want to support your investment by cloud mining but it is not going to work out. I would say that you should avoid cloud mining because it can pull you down.

i agree with this, cloud mining need long time before we can get ROI and we don't know if the sites still online for long time or not because on one will know for this. if you are good in gambling games or sports betting, then maybe you can considering to make a bets in sports betting because with your knowledge in sports, then you are able to win the match and you can get the money. if you choose to start selling bitcoin on localbitcoins, then its a good option too because you can get profit from that, and in the end, you can double your bitcoins in short time if you are really good recommended sellers.

That is the risk we really don't have an idea until when they are going to operate. Though some other cloud mining sites has contract with their investors but they can still broke that contract as there is no physical contact and contract to the investors. This is really a very risky way of supporting your own investment.
9228  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to use escrow on: February 11, 2017, 04:31:23 AM
We are both noobies on the site and I never used escrow before.
How do I go about this?

Escrows are your guarantor with your trade here in forum or outside the forum. They will assure you to have a safe trade, especially if you are going to have someone to deal with and you don't have any idea with his trading history. They are a big help to help you stay away from scammers, and those trusted ones are already indicated in this thread.
9229  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Need your suggestion, may start a BTC lending service on: February 11, 2017, 03:45:12 AM
Here's where I need an suggestion or opinion!...
There's always users requesting loans without collateral, what do yall think of this.

"If the Borrower requested a loan without collateral, they could have a Default trust/Trusted BTCTalk Forum User with excellent Reputation either Vouche/or Co-sign the loan agreement?"


Good luck to your lending plan, but the question is those default trust member will have their time to vouch or co-sign for a guy that wants to loan without collateral? Because their name can be included if that guy will fail to pay you. Better to avoid headaches, just don't give loans to people that will ask you loan without collateral.
9230  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: February 11, 2017, 03:11:57 AM
Well, now i have no experience of investing in casinos, but so far as i know it will be trust-able, becasue i don't see any bad thing about any gambling sites, and i am show all gambling sites are trust-able. So if you want to invest in any casino than should see the history about this casino, otherwise, i think it is a good idea. 

Why not try for yourself? It is not that bad to invest in casino's even the returns and profits are not that high but if you want to diversify the bitcoins you got. Investing in casino's is one of the best investment so far, just choose the casino's that are reputable and has good record from their early investors. Try it for yourself.
you should never to expect a high return when it comes to an investment.
the ROI will not attracting you but at least provide you a promising profit compared to do business by yourself.
the risk lower than have to gamble by yourself or do your own business, especially in casino investment where there is few case casino bankroll down to zero.

We should really not expect high returns because others think that investing in casino's are guaranteed to give them good profit. They may give good profit but the sad thing is that it is not that high at least that is good profit because it is a legit service that casino's are offering to us to be part of their operation which is a good thing.

You can earn big in a casino if there are plenty of high rollers on the site. But there aren't that many high rollers in any site. But in the long run you can still earn quite big if you just leave your investment in the casino. Probably a 20% per annum is possible in investing in casinos, that's quite good. But I am not sure if the casinos will really last that long.

But we can't guarantee that there are always high rollers on the site. I can think that there are some other ways of earning through casino's and that is when we are going to maximize your bitcoins on investing on different casino's. 20% per annum is already a good return in casino's because we know that their income is not always that good too all the time.
9231  Economy / Gambling / Re: Monthly Best Gambling Site (February 2017) on: February 11, 2017, 02:01:30 AM
Congratulations to Directbet.eu for always winning the monthly best gambling site but it seems that there are only few voters and real gamblers aren't voting to their preferred gambling though this is a good survey. I'm thinking if other casino's will beat them to there position for being always the leading one. Well, in bitdice I trust.  Grin
9232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best dice site? on: February 10, 2017, 05:24:16 AM
I have the most popular https://freebitco.in/ site I know. Do you have any site sites that you know are quality and reliable and have dice sites?
I want to play for fun in my free time?

Thats the first site I know when I start to learn bitcoin. Now I'm still login to freebito.in everyday and the main reason is not for dice but I claim from the faucet and use them all in lottery just looking for some luck.
If you want anothersie in dice. I recommend that you should try bitsler, Primedice,... they also have faucet for you to try at the beginning time

Faucets are a waste of time, you won't get too much bitcoins there. The site is earning from you and you won't earn from it. Well, nowadays even the faucet sites aren't earning anything anyway, so do you think they'll give you money? I tried bitsler. They have a good amount of faucet money they give out. My account currently gets 2000 satoshis per claim.

Faucets are just a feature and bonus of dice sites / casino's to attract more visits and gamblers. And if you are just taking advantage for their faucets, you are surely wasting your time. If you guys are looking for the best dice site. Just click on my signature and you will experience the best dice experience. And if you are big time dicer, bitdice is for you.
9233  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: February 10, 2017, 04:56:21 AM
Well, now i have no experience of investing in casinos, but so far as i know it will be trust-able, becasue i don't see any bad thing about any gambling sites, and i am show all gambling sites are trust-able. So if you want to invest in any casino than should see the history about this casino, otherwise, i think it is a good idea. 

Why not try for yourself? It is not that bad to invest in casino's even the returns and profits are not that high but if you want to diversify the bitcoins you got. Investing in casino's is one of the best investment so far, just choose the casino's that are reputable and has good record from their early investors. Try it for yourself.
you should never to expect a high return when it comes to an investment.
the ROI will not attracting you but at least provide you a promising profit compared to do business by yourself.
the risk lower than have to gamble by yourself or do your own business, especially in casino investment where there is few case casino bankroll down to zero.

We should really not expect high returns because others think that investing in casino's are guaranteed to give them good profit. They may give good profit but the sad thing is that it is not that high at least that is good profit because it is a legit service that casino's are offering to us to be part of their operation which is a good thing.
9234  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Internet Marketing on: February 10, 2017, 03:58:59 AM
Marketing a product is very easy in today's competitive world because internet is widely spread through out the world, before you need to learn some basics about marketing your product in internet either through social media are through landing pages, are through blogs, are through website. You can choose any one of the above every thing will be effective if you are committed.
Marketing a product is truly a hard task, because regularly lots of products have been coming into the market. Internet marketing has made it easy, as we can make the product reach the user in a short.

Yes, nowdays internet marketing is easy for selling your product but only if you have enough money for that. For example, seo is simetimes luck because someone gets easily ranked without backlinks and someone is paying much for backlinks but can't to rank well. Similar is about product selling, for example some sellers are offering products for free on amazon in exchange of good review. You need money and time and you'll see good result.
When it comes to getting large numbers of people to know your product or service, market costs are usually high. However, if the service really has quality, and if people really need it, then the marketing costs may not need to be too high, since the people themselves would use and recommend your service or product to others.
It depends on the marketing campaign you are running if you are paying for ads that can be very expensive, I on the other hand you are relying on organic growth of awareness of your service your cost are going to be way lower but the speed of that organic grow can be very slow.

Whether to goods or service is high quality as long you need to advertise it properly and wants to reach the targeted views that you need. Then you need to spend thousands of dollars with it because ads really cost a lot but in the end most of the results are positive. And in internet, that thousands of dollar will always be worth it.
9235  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Scam indicators? on: February 10, 2017, 03:33:27 AM
Being scammed in one way or another seems inevitable, what are the clear indicators that a legit-looking service is actually a big scam of some sorts? Is this forum a good place for info to detect a fraudulent scheme?

Well this forum has a lot of scam busters and they are really helping a lot of investors that are doubting to invest into a site. Most of them are doing some deep research and once they found out that it was being run by the same scam guy they will notify us here. Scammers are upgrading nowadays because their modus are upgrading too. But when you think that a site is fishy, just doubt it already.
9236  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Cloud mining/Investing or trading on localbitcoins? on: February 10, 2017, 03:13:29 AM

Hi.

I'm thinking of start selling bitcoins on localbitcoins for paypal and stuff, but I need to know which best way to double bitcoins is it cloud mining? investing or trading?

comment below, and no spam and this will be self moderated to avoid spams from ads posters.

thanks  Smiley

No man, cloud mining is not the best way to double your bitcoins, it is better if you are going to grow your bitcoins by simple trading on any exchange or trading platform. It seems that you want to support your investment by cloud mining but it is not going to work out. I would say that you should avoid cloud mining because it can pull you down.
9237  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Where would you invest if you had 40$/day ? on: February 09, 2017, 02:22:39 AM
The only things that comes from my mind is making a wise decision 40$ a day is big enough so i rather put 20$ to bitcoin wallet ,10$ to other investment and the other $10 into trading .

This is a good allocation of that money and probably with that other investments that you said. I'm going to put or invest that in the stock market or probably in a time deposit-like contract in the bank or any cooperative that allows you to deposit more and the more deposits you will do, the higher interest you can get.
9238  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: February 09, 2017, 02:11:24 AM
Well my disappointment is that I've traded and sold a lot of bitcoins in the past at lower price. Because I thought way back that time the price of bitcoin is going to fall for lower price and that's what I did, I did panic selling and sold it for lower price. I really do regret it now upon seeing the price of bitcoin is now at $1,000+
9239  Economy / Securities / Re: First time investment on: February 09, 2017, 01:49:33 AM
I just opened my eyes to Bitcoin mining, I save up 80$ every month and was thinking maybe investing them in bitcoins wouldn't be that bad an idea? Whats your thoughts on this, what should a first timer know?

I don't want to discourage you but investing in bitcoin mining nowadays are hard enough because of the halving. And you need to save at least a year or even more months in able to make mining profitable. But examplens gave you a good suggestion that you can still mine but not with bitcoin, try with other alt coins or you can just buy bitcoins and wait for the price increase, that's effortless and no cost in monitoring + no electricity consumption.
9240  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: February 09, 2017, 01:14:18 AM
Well, now i have no experience of investing in casinos, but so far as i know it will be trust-able, becasue i don't see any bad thing about any gambling sites, and i am show all gambling sites are trust-able. So if you want to invest in any casino than should see the history about this casino, otherwise, i think it is a good idea. 

Why not try for yourself? It is not that bad to invest in casino's even the returns and profits are not that high but if you want to diversify the bitcoins you got. Investing in casino's is one of the best investment so far, just choose the casino's that are reputable and has good record from their early investors. Try it for yourself.
We will only know how profitable investing in online casinos if we will try to do it, the risk is pretty low if you follow what the OP is currently doing. Invest in a legitimate gambling sites only and do your job to research before putting your money.
It's a no-brainer actually because the fact that gamblers loses in the long run then it's a guaranteed profit for the gambling sites, we just need to consider the volume of gamblers for betting profit.

Also a threat is the big whales who are gambling on a daily basis, they may lose for a couple of days but when the spirit of not giving up comes to them. They are going to show what they got and will keep on betting until they can win back all their losses, so if that ever happens we as investors are affected although that's happening occasionally.
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