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941  Economy / Economics / Re: If Greece defaults on: June 23, 2015, 01:27:59 AM
Worry not about the greeks, its part of "the plan" around the World Central Banks to manipulate the Stock Markets and tilt it toward the "billionaires" and leave the "crumbs" for the less fortunate.
I would sit on my gas stocks and not buy any other stocks until the Fed gets out of Markets.. I think that is what the Wizards of Financial "hired guns," should do too.

Thats been going on though before bitcoin lol.

And before anything, theres always the few vs the many, except now we have more chances due to a digital age.
942  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: June 23, 2015, 01:24:50 AM
should not be an issue because it doesnt matter on how big your capital is, it is matter of financial management which means that if you divide them proportionally or according to each of the risk then it isnt an issue about the amount of the capital.

#3 its issued because if you have only a enough capital and don't have an extra money, your invesment maybe lost and you don't have money to continued it.


Not entirely an issue I would say. As I have described it is just a matter of financial management because each investment bear their own risk which means that it is not related to how decent your capital is but rather how do you spread that risk into a smaller risk. Basically with strict financial management , people would be able to do so

I'll make an example using a small capital so

I.e you have $100 and you are spreading your it into 5 investment with $10 each leaving you another $50 for safety precautions which come in handy if you are losing the $50 invested.

See, it has nothing to do with your capital if you know how to manage them properly. Having $1M without a proper management for that would be the same as losing it anyway
Ok i got your point, but in my opinion you should clarify your statement so that newbie can understand what you are really saying, because they can misunderstand what you want to say.

its why most people like my rich friend buys a house.

it acts more like a security deposit box, if anything bad happens they can always sell it.
943  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: June 23, 2015, 01:23:12 AM
Lets say I want to buy bitcoins today and store them for 20 years to use a my retirement fund.  Live comfortably, but don't need to buy a yacht or anything.  How many do you think I would need to buy?

3 bitcoins is a good deal. Have 1 for emergencies, 1 for luxuries and 1 for financial security.

3 bitcoins wont get you any of that lol.

If anything it`ll buy you a iphone 6, and some change to buy some food at mcdonalds.  Cheesy
944  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: June 16, 2015, 08:34:04 PM
It cant be dead till people will hope in some worth of bitcoins. It is same like with "real" money now, you must hope that you can buy sometihng for them. So till there will be people with BTC shops, bitcoin will run probably. And these people you can see more day by day.

Yes if the adoption level goes high then there are chances that it will survive for a longer period of time but the basic thing is people should show their interest and willingness to accept the bitcoin as a mode of payment and the merchants should also start accepting bitcoin as a mode of payment.

The problem is where are you going to find a huge surge of adoption, it needs to come from a existing source.

This is just my view, but like amazon or someone telling them about bitcoin doesnt help. Unless they say save 30-40% on your purchase with bitcoin etc driving people to go buy bitcoin.
945  Economy / Economics / Re: The Switzerland of Bitcoin on: June 16, 2015, 08:32:21 PM
the land of bitcoin is china since big mining company there already but  the best country well ,potencial several of them the best well no one since all are making lays to try control bitcoin .... that is decentralized crypto coin ....

I don't see China becoming bitcoin friendly. It would mean loosening capital control - something which is not going to happen soon.

in fact they will not, they are too much attached to the money of bitcoin, not to bitcoin itself, they don't care too much about what it can offer in the future over their currency, or over fiat in general

i still can't understand why japan cannot embrace it yet, they are always in favor of new tech, they love new technology...

anyway my vote go to singapore

Singapore seems to be spot on.

They have known to adopt and grown their economy in other ways that most wouldnt, and almost made their building eco friendly that most havent done too.
946  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: June 16, 2015, 08:29:54 PM
You save money by earning more.

Thats opposite then most views, but heres why. Theres a certain extent you can only save so much, clip coupons, order from the dollar menu, living a horrible frugal life style.

When you could be increasing cashflow by being creative.. and still be frugal.
947  Economy / Economics / Re: I need bitcoin to be $690 to break even.....will I make it? on: June 16, 2015, 08:20:44 PM
If you have patience you will regain your loses.

How much patience..... are we talking 2 years or 20 years?

20years will make you a millionaire.

20 years id be 47, and id say why the hell would I hold these coins for so long.

If anyone holds this long, much props to them. I could be dead before 47 due to natural causes etc.
948  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Anyone Have Problems With Bitcoin Cloud Services - Is This A Scam on: June 16, 2015, 08:15:49 PM
Any calls from these freaks?Huh?

why would you expect a call, if they scammed most of their customers?

if anything they will do the same thing with another name and different website setup.
949  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: Sr Member Account for sale. GREEN TRUST on: June 16, 2015, 08:14:12 PM
wait so, whats your price youre willing to let it go?

.6 btc? is the lowest? I have a friend who wants to launch a campaign, which I personally think its still going to fail regardless if he does buy your account or not.
950  Economy / Speculation / Re: A humongous crash imminent! on: June 16, 2015, 08:07:50 PM
Numerous people on this thread have said it is already falling/crashing but I am not seeing it.  How do you guys get that?  Huh

You should tell by now this thread is pretty troll lol.

I mean look at the replies and the response, and you should already know... if you havent..  Cheesy
951  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Got BTC, Want PP $$ on: June 16, 2015, 08:04:42 PM
is VirWoX good to trade around 270$? or 1 BTC?

I wouldnt recommend virwox, it has too many fees that add up.

And that same cost could of add up to buying extra .1 btc or something. Like buying linden dollars then adding up another fee after processing.. doesnt make sense to me.
952  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: People that buy/sell bitcoin on: June 16, 2015, 08:03:09 PM
Some good advice in here.

Currently not looking to do this but was interested in what it might take. Would most likely hold the bitcoins long term due to this being a side project.
Would be cool if I could spin this into paying the bills and banking my wages. That would be the dream.

Based on peoples response on this thread, I wouldnt take that risk unless you can afford it.

Its like a 50/50 chance, unless you know something that others dont.
953  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stocks fall globally as Greek talks collapse on: June 16, 2015, 08:01:13 PM
wasnt this waiting to happen though?

I feel like greece is a black hole for the euro, and it just keeps on getting unfed until they stop.
954  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How earn 1BTC a year? on: June 16, 2015, 07:56:56 PM
You could earn 1BTC in a second with gambling, but you could lost 1BTC in a second with gambling too
Even with faucet, you could earn 1BTC in a year. As long as you do it everyday

Hey we are adults here, i mean most of us.

We should be able to control risk, by the time we hit 18. Most of us are more responsible at age 13 than at 30...

The guys who cant control their risks will eventually lose their money and wont make a dime in a year, probably in debt too.

Its just the lack of knowing money managment.

But also it kicks in to social behaviors like does the person have an addiction to something ruins their finance initially.  Hookers, drugs, etc.
955  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [SELL] GYFT CARD from gyft.com on: June 16, 2015, 07:54:28 PM
any form of discount at all?

I know its a long shot, but just have to ask.  Cheesy
956  Economy / Speculation / Re: 100 bitcoins. Will I be a millionaire by 2020? on: June 16, 2015, 07:52:48 PM
if you make decent profit (and i think you will be able) donīt forget to direct some btc towards charity. it is good for your karma Smiley

karma lol.

people believe the superstitious view of karma? if shit happens shit happens, and as for charity we got plenty of those that non-profits pay themself in other ways. Its a form of business.
957  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let the dumping begin... on: June 16, 2015, 07:49:16 PM
Despite some people dumping, I think its still pretty solid?

I dont know about you guys, but I rather dump it when it jumps up $50 difference then right now.

probably only miners are dumping now, see knc thread(and not even all their mined coins, i presume around 50%, to cover electricity and turn some profit), this is why is so solid

big players have stopped dumping, they are shorting all the time, when miners dump, it seems that no one want that the price fall below 200-230

a good sign indeed

do you think gemini is making its move like this too?

I know most have been anticipating the twins to launch a exchange, but do you think they`ll do what knc are trying to do?
958  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Aahzmundus scammer on: June 16, 2015, 02:04:52 AM
I think my account doesn't have any value now
Going now bye bye and will be here with a new account.

I think if you can repair your reputation, and if you owe money to people and pay them back.

Its possible to still retain your value instead of creating another account. But looking at it, it seems that you been creating multiple ponzis..
959  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CloudThink.IO removed management pictures after being caught with stealing on: June 16, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
What I dont get is that people are still holding their signatures in their profiles.

Which keeps confusing newbies to consider it as a investment, which is a shame. Either they have a bunch of alt accounts, or people just dont give a crap..
960  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: Gmail US PVA - High Quality - 10 Accounts for $5 (100 PVAs for $35) on: June 16, 2015, 02:00:18 AM
just curious how many can you do for custom quotes.

Like if I decided to buy on-going, would I get on-going discounted rates?
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