I always want to increase my earning ,i enjoy to invest and earn from it.I know i cant always win but it has more chances of winning than gambling.We all know gambling only depend on luck but trading depends on our skills,market knowledge etc.So on trading we have much control than gambling.So thats why i like trading not gambling.
as it is a matter of interest, as some people are interested in gambling while other like to invest in alt coins, every one has their own choice, but to me as we can see that the price of bitcoin is increasing on regular bases, therefore it will be the best option just to hold bitcoin for the future increase and not to invest it anywhere, as in present time holding bitcoin can really give you good profit. Unless there is something like finex hack again.... There will always be risk in btc investment. Even the best btc casino like primedice also have been hacked and lost ton of btc. Similarly to other cases like mtgox etc. This is the kind of risk that btc investment has and if you are not ready, it is better not to invest in btc related. I am just saying that investing may be as risky as gambling. Risk is always with gambling and investment but if you will not take the risk, you will not grow anything. So you wanted to do nothing with your bitcoins, you don't want to gamble, invest in gambling sites. And you want to say they are all risky, so what you must do is just hold it until the price gets higher and give you profit. |
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i think now its panic selling, i see on the poloniex market, there is a new trend to go down, i am not sure it is just correction or for sure, but i hope this is just correction and after this, the price is increase.
poloniex is altcoins exchange indeed since bitcoin price reach to $700 above market trend has been change for altcoins became an down trend but for bitcoin price from other exchange i think there is no problem as most of the people invest their bitcoins in alt coins as investment, but when the price of bitcoin start increasing they try to convert them in to bitcoin and hold bitcoin for the price increase, and that is the reason that the price of altcoin fell down. Thats the way it goes,if bitcoin price goes down ,altcoins prices goes up ,and when bitcoin goes up altcoin price goes down until they will end up dead. It happens because trust was on Bitcoins, altcoins are created to support bitcoin but without bitcoin they will not progress. If you see an altcoins that goes panic selling, you have to think very wise as it could not rise up again. It's a different scenario for bitcoin as it's a strong coins. That's why I don't do panic selling when seeing the price of alt coins goes up or down. I'm a bit conscious with the price of bitcoin because this is the mainstream. But sometimes it makes me wanna do to do panic selling but I'm forcing myself to become calm even the price of bitcoin is quite falling. I think as of now the price of bitcoin is quite stable already. |
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Well i am guessing that those people who keep saying Bitcoin is dead are the people who can not comprehend to Bitcoin price. Maybe they are thinking that because of the High Bitcoin Price today then lots of people will not be able to afford to buy 1 whole Bitcoin.
They are blind maybe, bitcoin is so much alive and I can see that clearly. That statement has no basis, and only those believer will be able to know the real status of bitcoin. No they are not blind they are just simply creating these type of false information to make the people panic to sell bitcoins. And once it happened the price of bitcoin become lower as there are a lot of people are selling bitcoins or else they really want to destroy the good image of bitcoin because they are not getting benefit from bitcoin or their investment with it failed. |
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My discovery of bitcoin has been one of the best things that has happened in the last year or so, in terms of financials and transactions. I can now make purchases (with rebates at that) online and I am able to make an investment that's giving me higher returns than my usual offline investments.
good for you mate i also taking this advantage to easy paying my monthly bills for cellphone,electric and cables so instead of falling in line inside the bills remittance i just a click away paying it using our local bitcoin exchange. really cool.. That's why bitcoin is really worth to all of us because we are able to use it for everything that we wanted to do whether it is for investments or simply using it as currency. This is also a good help for me, because I can try and improve my trading skills with the use of alt coins because I am an aspiring stock market holder and trader. |
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I think there is a desire to get rich quick and gambling can do that. If you are making money, then you want to keep making it. If youlose some money, you wat to get it back. It's so easy to make bets ad the results are quick.
according to my views yes gambling can do that but only if you are the owner of the gambling site or casino otherwise gambling is not a place for the players to become rich it is a place of fun and in that the players will win and lose at the same time and so in that condition we cannot expect a high flow of income to a player pocket. What's real here is most of the gamblers(players) loses against the house or the gambling sites, that's the main reason why we are addictive since when we lose, we tend to experiment and look for a better way to win. Sadly, though we made so much effort, the outcomes does not justify still on our effort. It can be addictive because of its usual way of giving us satisfaction for the entertainment that we are looking for. But that is the main reason why gambling is addictive because many of us thinks that we can have a good future with it and get to earn some decent profit and what is happening is we are failing in the end. |
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Why would banks disappear? Plenty of bitcoin banks online... okay, they may not be as established or as recognised institutions as traditional financial banks but if banks today disappear it will only be because they will be displaced by highly-evolved successors.
How can bitcoin on its own ever replace the roles that banks have?
P.S. I don't like banking in general=)
None likes banks, it's an necessary evil. Bitcoin don't have the power to replace banks and never will have because it's just an currency. We can't deny that our country needs the services of banks. Because it is the one that makes the circulation of money to be in a good flow. And if we don't need banks then central banks are not even needed either and no one will ever print our fiat money and oligarchs will control the whole flow of money system. And it is impossible for banks to be replaced by bitcoin because of its decentralization. |
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Received my payment, thanks yahoo
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moneypot pays really a little now, but might be good option still
most safe i know of so far
They are not the only one who are paying low to their investors, almost all of them and it depends to their profit and amount of your investment. So if you invested that really big bitcoin to them, then expect acceptable return from them. But if you are just investing your spare bitcoins. Then don't expect too much, too good to be true. Those legit sites are being good and true to their investors. Earnings from these investments are very slow but keeping some of our coins on these reputed sites will give good returns over the time. I have invested around 10% of my coins in these gambling bankrolls but so far not so bad, overall in profits. Indeed its because you cant get your ROI in just months I guess it will last for years but the most important to that your investments are safe. But I didn't try yet to invest in any casinos. How can you know if your investment is safe? There is nothing like safe in gambling world, if you think it is safe in gambling may be you much probably wont get anything back from your investment though. Because the higher risk that we take the better payout it is. But if you compare to gambling it will be much safer then We can't say our investments are 100% safer either in gambling investors or any other investment. But by diversifying your investments into few good and trusted sites or products you can reduce that risk factor to less means losing of 100% money will come down because all those sites or products may not go down at one time so investors may not lose all their money Yes,, there is no assurance that investments are safe and guaranteed to earn by just simply investing into bitcoin casino's. Because all of them are risky and not secured means that there is a chance that your investment will collapse because of the company's loss. So it is more likely that you need to take the risk and accept it before investing. |
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cuz its 'easy & quick money' where you will nowhere else make such quick legitimately
There is not such a thing as easy and quick money, you need to work hard for it, even those few gamblers that are able to get some profits out of the casino games make great effort to reach such results. The strategy of all casinos and gambling games to let you win in the beginning. You are going crazy from all that winnings and fast & quick money. That easy make you involved. You start to believe in your luck and think that you have some special skills. But all this is scam. Then you loose over and over again with trying to bring back your luck. Casinos don't need to fix the games the casino games already offer and advantage to the casino known as the house edge so there is no need to do that, because if a casino was caught cheating their customers, they will stop playing at that casino and the casino will probably go bankrupt. but in fact just the opposite, which benefits only one party, and until now a casino continues to benefit them and players gambling in the casino always get the loss. Not all the time gamblers are losing in casino's there are those wise gamblers that once they hitted jackpot that is happening once in the blue moon. Then they are getting to secure that winnings and will stop on that day, take rest and will gamble tomorrow. Because of greediness that's why many are addicted in gambling. |
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After having seen so many so-called cloud mining sites which went scam we don't need to ask why and we don't need to invest in them? Just like some of the members already posted in this thread they were scam from day one from the day they came into existence. Beware of such so-called cloud mining scam thing.
That is because they are greedy and out of their wanting to get some good profit in bitcoins. They think that it will give them good profit upon trusting those scam cloud mining sites. So, I say that this teaches us lesson from being scammed by this scheme and we won't become a victim again for this investment in the future. |
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In my experience if i lost large amount in gambling honestly i don't cry because you can still earn it in your job and part time job..
What's the point honestly ? Work your ass off for 10 hours a day [a usual 9-5 shift],lose whatever you have earned with all the hard work in gambling and yet be audacious enough to do the same shit over again ?Not sure if I call that really ballsy or dumb. He thinks that losing is just normal because he can just earn it from his job. Very nice belief that it is just fine to lose because you won't cry and you are able to cover it up by just working hard again and again. And after payday, just gamble again and let the house get all the money you work hard, maybe it is that what he is experiencing. |
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The best way I think to manage money is to understand that you do need to save and can control the urges to not buy your wants and just pay your responsibilities. You can manage your money through apps, knowing what you paid and how much you save. The first thing when you get your salary or wage, you take an amount already to save. You take a part of it to savings, and apart of it from responsibilities. You should always keep in mind to save then spend what's remaining rather than to spend then save what's remaining. It's a sure way to have savings and completely manage it using an application. That's how I do it.
You don't even have an app for managing your money. What you need is discipline, if you know the importance matter of saving your money and spending it in right way. You can just simply identify how to manage your money properly. And that's one of the way to best manage your money by knowing the your wants and needs, focus more to your needs and forget for a while those wants. |
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No its not and pretty sure it wont going to be a sin
That is the truth, because we cannot blame gambling for our lose as we know already how risky gambling is. We need to understand that we are being advise to play for fun so we do not have the right to call gambling as wrong after every lose. Let's be fair. We are the moral agents and not a dice or a roulette the ones doing mistakes is us humans, so we cannot blame anyone else but ourselves of our mistakes. Religious beliefs are making gambling is a sin, I'm not against them and nor against with you guys. It is just going to depend on how you are going to take it lightly or hardly. If you are keeping committing a sin through gambling like womanizing because that's one of the aim of most of the gamblers. Because if they have money, they can just simply buy woman and that's how gambling falls into sin. |
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25+ BTC is probably the ballpark for what you're going to need to have under your name if you want to retire with it and have it be a sizeable sum. More practically you're probably looking at something over 100 Bitcoin if you retire around 45 and you want to live off of your Bitcoin alone for the rest of that time, although you'll also have a low quality of living, assuming that you go off of current prices.
With that 45 bitcoin on the day of your retirement will be just a good capital for investment that can sustain you for the rest of your life surviving and living not that too elegant. But if you want to be elegantly living, maybe hundred to thousand bitcoins is the right quantity for sustaining your life and as well as your family without any proper investment but just pure expenditure. |
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I believe it's mostly luck, you can have a strategy that can make you some profit in a short period sometimes, but the rule in gambling is the longer you play the more likely it is you lose. And a lot of people have to lose for a few to win.
first of all should you believe on luck existence itself? i personally do believe that luck is just one of many factor that can change the game, change the outcome. but just limited to 'one of many factor' , you can't win the game with your luck alone. Well I deposited 1 btc once with dice and did a reversed martingale on 2x and hit 4 greens in a row, I call that luck indeed, when something is random by chance and I still hit it I got lucky. It's not a force or something like that where I have to believe in. That's why I am not convinced with that martingale strategy and I was kind a interested when you said that you did reversing it. And that's pure luck at all, if you think and believe that you are a very lucky guy then for sure you will have the same output or if you have positive belief as you gamble. Then that will make you some positive energy that will pull you to winning. |
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Probably they would like to promote forex platforms as much as possible and attract new investors. But there are also many forex scams and lot people have lost their money. In general forex is very risky type of investment of the "easy money" type which we all know that doesn't exist.
It may be new to other people who are wanting to invest in different types of investments. Out of curiosity of many an interested person asks about forex and since there are forex traders here in forum. In support to that question, they are creating topics to pull some interested people in forex. But that depends on how if they want to give their full support to that investment but I don't. |
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As flawed as our current system is, the dependency of most everyone on fiat cannot be denied. It's hard to imagine living a day without using fiat for our daily transactions. Bitcoin, or any other crypto currency for that matter, cannot simply replace it right now. If another financial crisis happens, let us see what bitcoin's role will be and how it is going to affect its price.
of course it will be difficult for us if we do not use fiat and just rely only use bitcoin, even I think with maybe you would not be able to eat when you're just relying using bitcoin, bitcoin will never replace fiat In our modern days, fiat are still needed and even though we know how to use bitcoin and we know what is the true worth of bitcoin. Still there are people who still needs to know more about it, because they are the ones that will have hard time in adopting bitcoins and for sure instead of completely shifting into bitcoins, they will just simply use fiat. That's why majority of the people still refers to fiat and so do I. |
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There is no way to win without losing. In fact, the chances are that you will lose more than you win. However, if you bet on something that requires strategy or skill, then you increase you odds.
Right just adding chances but still no quarantee not to lose i prefer this way instead of playing pure base luck game with strategy and sport bets you will be able to find some ways to assess your winning chances and at least to give edge with your bets. Yes those ways are possible. But thinking that in gambling to just completely win all the time. I guess that is not going to make some balance in the industry. If there are people who knows how to do this, I'm pretty sure that they won't let someone or other people know their strategy, it's either bug or tricks and sooner or later if many are already using that method. The house will know or will close because of bankruptcy. |
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bitcoin is a double edged sword on one hand using it provides security on the internet since no one can trace you down and on the other hand it provides a big opportunity for hackers and black market dealers that use it for selling drugs and other illegal stuff since it provides anonymity,but it all depends on the person that is using it
The bitcoin is not totally anonymous. It is pseudo anonymous. So you can be traced by using the bitcoin. That is true. As the trail can't be destroyed in blockchain, the user can be tracked back with varying levels of ease. However, if the user mixes his coins, then it takes a lot of time and effort to track him (an example is Tomáš Jiřikovský, the Sheep Marketplace thief). Nowadays, mixing service is very popular especially when you are doing an illegal activities. True, you can trace the bitcoin address for the transaction but it's hard to determine who are the people transacting. It's the benefits of using bitcoin but we do not need to abuse it as it might not give us a good benefits. We can't even stop those people who are abusing bitcoin for real. Because they are loving the way they use bitcoin for their bad plans and doings. But let's just forget those people who are involved to such activities and instead of talking about them, let's just all together work for the good of bitcoin and use it for our own good and needs. |
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Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.
All investment, even in the real world, come with danger. However, in internet investment, the risk is extremely high because they can just run away with your money anytime. On the other hand, the reward can be pretty insane too if you find the right investment.. if you got lucky and be the first member while the investment site still in the process of recruiting members for sure you will be paid off and be lucky to earn big but that's not a good way to earn better to look for stability just like gambling you are not really sure yet if you will be lucky but the more you seek for good investment the more you will learn to study and that will bring a good decision making to success, just go where your interest will much be use to have some fun too while you are inside of it. So you are talking about HYIP's man? Because you use the word 'first' and most of the people who are investing in HYIP's are taking in the queue and wants to be the first one to invest there. So that they will be secured, but I don't think that's an effective way of investing. Better if you are going to trust those gambling / casino's that are looking for more investors but chose the ones who are already in the league in the long run. |
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