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9581  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: November 22, 2016, 03:33:39 AM
Although I dont know the number of people on this forum, but I know its not a few spread across countries and continents, that sends a signal and that we have one thing in common and that is our belief in Bitcoin so if you are are sure of your resolution just ask yourself " what are all these people doing here?" and your questions will be answered whether to believe or not?...

Exactly, it depends on the beliefs of an individual about bitcoin, if you think it does not worth your believe then just don't, if you think it does then do believe on it, as the guy mentioned above, you should think that why would so many people be involved with something if it does not deserve believing?

Most people only look the temporal profit. They cannot understand or they don’t mind that bitcoin is a real revolution for the world economy. The logic of his creator as well as and those who had implemented it had other causes and not only the financial profit. So if you believe in creator/s beliefs you believe in bitcoin.

I believe that Satoshi is aiming something for the good of all people and as well as the world economy. But of course, we can't remove those people who are subject to against this good project. But I can say that as long as we already proved that bitcoin is real and tough currency. Then more and more of us will keep on trusting it.
9582  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: November 22, 2016, 03:17:48 AM
Of course there is the possibility of appeal to the bank for a loan. There are times that there is no time to wait and look. If your credit history is good, no problems should occur, and you can immediately get the money in his hands.
that's indeed one of many way to face the current situation,but honestly i'd never wanted to have an affair with the bank if i can sell things, then i will sell,it's better than paying more than what you receive,bank always having an interest and that's bad for me in the future, and if there were an urgent thing comes and force me to spent more than usual monthly spending
It's easy to loan in the bank and they are cheaper compared to any other lending company, if your intention is only to loan when in times of desperation, I guess no problem with that but for some people, they do not loan for times of trouble only but to buy their wants.

well loaning from banks do have strict requirements and if you're really in desperation, sometimes it may take time before you can get your loan. I agree that it would be better, well for me that is, to sell items that you don't really need to get extra money. or if you can borrow from a friend or a relative that can spare you some amount, it would be better.

Here in my country loaning in banks are two types, with collateral and non-collateral. But for the non collateral loans the requirements are very easy as long as you are already have regular position to your company and working there for 1 year. And still they have salary range and you must be earning $350 monthly, so even if I desperately need money I can't use their service. I can just simply ask my brothers and sisters to give me money if I need so.

Yeah. loaning on bank is not a good option if you need money desperately. It will tooks a very long time to approved your loan it is very hassle. Me myself tried it and ended up nothing because i can't complete all requirements. If people need some fash cash, it is better to come your family and friend to ask for help. You will easily get money if you have good relation to all people around you

Well here we have services for mini loans up to EUR 500 which can be granted within 24 hours against a 10-15% interest rate.

I would use that as a last resort, I rather borrow some from family or friends depends on the amount and if I can assure to pay it back in a reasonable time frame. And I would sell anything what is worth something and I can live without and just work my ass off on anything that can make me some extra cash.

Ow! That's too much interest, does it covers for monthly interest rate or for the whole period of payment you need to pay? That is why I am rejecting any loaning service even though I am really in need for money. And I don't worry about it, because I have some options like selling my stuffs for rush and as well as ask my friends for money.
9583  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: November 22, 2016, 02:47:34 AM
The only ways to always win in while gambling is to cover all your options. That is possible only in one case - when your are using something called arbitrage sport betting.

Other than that it seems that some people have distorted view on what gambling really is - and it is a 'no win' game. You either win once and stop gambling or continue to lose even more in the end.

That is what others do, keep on losing even though they realize that there is no way to gamble without lose. We may experience losing on a daily basis but most of us won't give up to recover some of our losses. But what is happening is instead of recovering our losses we tend to keep on losing because the new problem is our emotion we can't control it.

Honestly there no such thing called sure method or 100% working method to win money in gambling. At the end we need some luck to win money but it can happen only sometimes but not always. So if anyone gamble on regular basis to earn money then mostly they will lose instead making money in gambling.

Exactly, I don't even believe those people who are offering some techniques for some amount of bucks that sells their strategies. It is better to always follow a thread of a tipster that predicts most of the winning matches. We can't stop to lose in gambling but we can reduce the possibility of falling into that lose by this simple strat.
9584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your dice strategy? on: November 22, 2016, 02:32:03 AM
I don't have that decent strategy as others are saying, what I just usually do is keep on rolling the dice but for small amount only. I don't risk too much with dice even though I know that it can give you instant profit whether it is big amount or less amount. Because the only that comes to my mind is that, this is the fastest way of making me lose and poor.
9585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: November 22, 2016, 02:26:50 AM
I put them at same place and make no difference between gambling ans trading since both are risky. Trading some people say is not like gambling and there are patterns and charts to learn if that was true then people were not loosing money in trading. You can loose money in both as factor of risk is in both they are same for me as well.
For me, they are quite different from each other, though. In gambling, you usually need the luck to win a game while trading does not require this element. As you can see, you can not predict what will  happen. But in trading, you can analyze chart and news in order to make a good decision, to buy or to sell currency at a time. You also need luck in trading, but it is not very important thing which can make a significant impact to your trading career
Well, I agree with you, however, in addition to luck, you also need the knowledge and experience in the world of trading. Well, in gambling I think you need more luck that many of the experiences and knowledge, because without luck, it will be very difficult to make a satisfactory outcome
That's true, gambling is all about luck whereas trading is luck and skill/knowledge. the profit is slow in trading, but at least you won't lose big like in gambling.

If you will just some up that profit in gambling is even slower, because the cycle goes on that you will earn big amount of bitcoins and afterwards the house edge is able to recover your winnings by every little single lose that you are making. I am just taking trading as both as gambling because it is a type of investment and all of them are risky.
9586  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: November 21, 2016, 02:02:55 PM
Of course there is the possibility of appeal to the bank for a loan. There are times that there is no time to wait and look. If your credit history is good, no problems should occur, and you can immediately get the money in his hands.
that's indeed one of many way to face the current situation,but honestly i'd never wanted to have an affair with the bank if i can sell things, then i will sell,it's better than paying more than what you receive,bank always having an interest and that's bad for me in the future, and if there were an urgent thing comes and force me to spent more than usual monthly spending
It's easy to loan in the bank and they are cheaper compared to any other lending company, if your intention is only to loan when in times of desperation, I guess no problem with that but for some people, they do not loan for times of trouble only but to buy their wants.

well loaning from banks do have strict requirements and if you're really in desperation, sometimes it may take time before you can get your loan. I agree that it would be better, well for me that is, to sell items that you don't really need to get extra money. or if you can borrow from a friend or a relative that can spare you some amount, it would be better.

Here in my country loaning in banks are two types, with collateral and non-collateral. But for the non collateral loans the requirements are very easy as long as you are already have regular position to your company and working there for 1 year. And still they have salary range and you must be earning $350 monthly, so even if I desperately need money I can't use their service. I can just simply ask my brothers and sisters to give me money if I need so.
9587  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: November 21, 2016, 01:56:12 PM
At crypto world we always want two things, more bitcoins and bigger value, with that said, we sometimes does invest trying to achieve both requests, sometimes we do loose in the road, savings for me has showed last halving it would be better hold my coins instead risk them, but this is up at each one.
Talking about crypto world, it's more on a investment on me, it's not savings because the word savings happens only in the bank and there's no risk on that. Here, it's full of risk but the reward is great..

I'm treating crypto's are both type, doing the same thing for just doing one thing. Just like in bitcoin, if you want to hold bitcoins then you are already saving. And upon saving bitcoins, you are totally doing an investment with bitcoin so upon waiting for the price increase, the profit you may get will be predicted by the price fluctuation.
9588  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: November 21, 2016, 01:47:22 PM
    According google the oldest bank which exist until today there is in Siena, Italy, which has been operating continuously since 1472. In my opinion, it is difficult to eradicate from  people minds the concept of bank credit; Bitcoin acceptance would be more easy to people had never create a bank account.

Woah thanks for this ancient facts. I've been always amazed for some additional knowledge that I've been acquiring here in forum and with that oldest bank which is still operating is really an old geek bank. That can be a given thing that we like in bitcoin we don't have any account needed in able to use bitcoin but the government doesn't agree with that if all of the people will not use banks.
9589  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This School Accepts Bitcoin ! on: November 21, 2016, 01:41:22 PM
This is an awesome thing. a school will attract a lot of users bitcoin. each student may someday be required to have bitcoin wallet for a monthly fee. it is a dream in the future. bitcoin developments will occur if all of this a reality.

Yes surely this is an awesome adoption that a school is already accepting bitcoins. For sure if other nearby schools located will see this and thinks that this is attractive for the people to educate their children to this school. And this is one of the things why because bitcoins price is now increasing. I hope this will make the adoption even faster.
9590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Spectrecoin [SPEC] Untraceable | Ring Signatures | PoSv3 | ICO OPEN on: November 21, 2016, 12:59:15 PM
Will Spectre be listed at poloniex? I was trying to look for it but I guess it's still not on the list. As well as the apps I think it's not yet available in my country yet.

Because the ICO is still not yet coming but after the ICO for sure it will be listed at poloniex and as well as other trusted exchange sites.


The team are looking for a trusted escrow to handle the funds as I know that many have asked about this. I will update on this shortly.

I can suggest that you choose Dabs as he is also escrowing another alt coin if I'm not mistaken that is XYY. You can just try to check out his ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234939.0
9591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 19, 2016, 06:46:09 AM
I like everytime i played in gambling website for a long time and winning on the game is good in feeling i love the way i played and then triple my money in just a minute this is what i always comming back on gambling sites even though im not that good in dealing with my bets.

The sensation for this feeling is making me back in gambling either. Even I can manage to control myself to completely stop gambling that can be possible only for a day. But for the next day, I'm thinking that "if I gamble today, then I have a chance make my money tripled." and that way of thinking is making me also to keep on gambling again and again.
9592  Economy / Gambling / Re: CAN YOU LIST LEGIT BITCOIN CASINO TO INVEST MY BITCOIN on: November 19, 2016, 06:35:17 AM
I invest in crypto-games and moneypot Smiley
Dont invest to moneypot..
I tried it. Dont receive profit because this is risk.

Actually no matter where you invest, it's still has the risk (you can't avoid this one if you want get some profit). You don't receieved any profit when you invested in moneypot because there were people who won a lot (assuming they are whale (high rollers))

Yes you are right with it. Whether it is with moneypot or any other trusted gambling websites all of them are risky. But it is good to consider those sites who are already running for a long time already and just look into its global bankroll on how many people are trusting it. All the gambling websites indicated above are legit ones.
9593  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: November 19, 2016, 06:24:51 AM
There are only 3 ways that I'm making to increase my bitcoins. It's either with trading of different alt coins, gambling for different games that I know and depends on luck or both skill & luck. And lastly, by just simply investing into bankroll casino's. It depends on how you will get serious for each of my given ways to increase your bitcoins.
9594  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin vs Gold vs Cash on: November 19, 2016, 06:06:31 AM
Cash is good all the time we can use it to deal in every day use like we are using it in every day buying foods and needs so that we can live with cash in gold is good investment too when you have golds to get and invest it to get money and bitcoin i use this in daily trading i can really make profit here.

I would say that cash is the best, because you will convert gold into cash, you will convert bitcoin into cash. And everything that we are transacting are always with the use of cash. Because those merchants who are accepting bitcoins are still few in the cycle and as well as the people who are accepting payments with the use of gold.
9595  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Getting porn sites to accept bitcoin on: November 19, 2016, 05:59:38 AM
Porn sector is so big in the world and it is mean there are so big money in this sector but bitcoin has clean name and bitcoin needs to grow up in its sector my idea is it is not good time for to enter porn sector and so many people dont like bitcoin will work with porn sector i think this is not good idea !
yeah you're right there is the velocity of money is very big in the porn market, and they all (users or dealers) would really need privacy, then bitcoin can be used for this transaction

Bitcoin is not having a clean name either because of this industries who are adopting bitcoin and as well as those people who are doing illegal acts with its use. And that is why there are some porn sites who are already accepting bitcoin for their VIP memberships and also other services that needs to get paid with bitcoin. Bitcoin will make porn industry even bigger.
9596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 18, 2016, 12:33:23 AM
Easy money possibility makes people addicted, some more others less. Each person needs to fight against the addiction inside himself.
Gambling is a game for strong persons, only those who can control themselves against the will.

This is for real even I became an addicted gambler and this is what always comes to my mind that I can easily get money for getting into gambling daily. At first it became good because I am getting some good amount and I'm thinking that I'm lucky enough and won't be failing in the long run, but things went wrong and I became addicted.
9597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is betting a good choice for a newbie? on: November 18, 2016, 12:26:58 AM
I can be considered a newbie in gambling and it wasn't good for me. I lost money when playing, so I lost some of the will to continue playing (and the money too). I didn't lose much, because I don't have much, but now I need to continue getting my pennies and while I work on it I can think if I will continue with this gambling thing or not.

That's essential for a newbie in gambling to lose for the first time you are not just lucky enough with your try.  But good one that you have tried to gamble because that will make you some kinda of revenging and you want to get your lose. And don't let your emotion to make you that kind of thinking and you'll be fine.
9598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 18, 2016, 12:16:51 AM
u can be rich only from poker not from other gambling as other gambling is just gamblign when odds are killing you
Poker is just for those who rich already but if you are going top play poker with small capital then it really hard to grow that money when you had small capital to use in poker games but if your luck is enough to defeat and win in every round and cards is really good then you can really make it.
i can count with my fingers how many people become rich because gambling
no matter it's from poker , blackjack, roulette or whatever
the conclusion is , a very ittle chance for everyone to get rich in gambling , almost impossible
i even considered gambling as a wrong way to earn money.

They are only very few that became rich from gambling. And this is one of my dream to become rich from gambling but I guess that will be an impossible thing for me. No matter what type of gambling game I play, still I can say its a failure for me to reach my attained goal to become rich with it so I will just gamble for fun.
9599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: November 18, 2016, 12:07:20 AM
If Gambling was not introduced then many people have to do the hard work for earning money.
If there's no gambling at all then we don't have easy profit when everytime we are going ot play gambling but sometimes we are just had bad luck to lose bitcoin if gambling was not introduced then many people will not lose there bitcoin into gambling every day Smiley And they keep it all the way to save.

Many will say this especially those gamblers who are getting good benefits in gambling. And I think many people will just work the usual way because without gambling this is where many are getting their luck tested to get some good profits and fast money and no one will ever be bankrupt in gambling and there would be no way to play for money.
i think the world would run better without gambling
easy money? that thought was really awful , gambling have a bad influence you know that
gambling industry just a little piece of business , we can still live without it
i see gambling as a bad habit , gambling companies same greedy as the player , nothing good in there.

Maybe that will make the world running better. Because many of the people are making their lives very bad because of it. And people who are looking for some of kind entertainment will find some of other ways of entertaining themselves. For there are a lot of people who are making gambling as a wrong move to their path.
9600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: November 17, 2016, 01:37:03 AM
I would prefer real gambling to online because just that I can a feeling of the person I am playing with and to a large extent I am sure if I lose, I lose fair and the same goes for if I should win. This is enough reason for me rather than having to rely on all "provavbly fair slogan" all over the place whereas "the house always wins"

I will still stick also with real gambling because the real thrill will always be there unlike sitting in front of your computer unit while doing some clicks and betting on it. The thrill maybe there but not the same with real gambling, I like more the true gambling experience because you can feel the real upsetting when you lose and real winning if you win.
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