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961  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: April 15, 2012, 06:31:26 AM
I broke bamt.conf on a headless rig, so I cant get back to editing it the usual way (gpumon, c) what editor can I use trough SSH and wheres the file located ?
[Edit] Found em, incase someone ends off like me:/etc/bamt/bamt.conf     and the editor is called nano.
962  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Hashmaster 2000, outdoor mining in the arctic. on: April 10, 2012, 12:00:15 PM
I recently got 2 metal cabinets, hight is probably 3 times hight of your box.
Doors on the front and back, which will help me with my plan.
I have to figure out how to combine them to create a full size server rack cabinet.
Will be a lot more comfy for access, maintenance etc.

Now I saw I said "I run a similar setup", when I meant "I will run a similar setup"

Pics are still coming though !

I considered some metallic options myself, mainly enclosures intended for electronics, but ended up dismissing them because working with metal would of have been harder and I figured resonance might prove to be a problem. On the other hand a metallic enclosure could prove very nice in terms of heat dissipation... the entire case working to atleast some extent as a large heatsink.
963  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Hashmaster 2000, outdoor mining in the arctic. on: April 09, 2012, 05:46:14 PM
No disrespect, but wow. Your project looked so nice in the beginning and it ends up looking like it got into a fight with a rose bush filled with angry kittens Smiley
I know and it will not remain this way, I just didnt feel like getting in to the cable management untill I have all the GPUs I want in there. This is also the reason why my intitial post did not include a picture of the inside.
964  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Hashmaster 2000, outdoor mining in the arctic. on: April 09, 2012, 05:44:40 PM
I would have totally changed the position of the cards by 90 degrees.
Thats a usefull tought, Im starting ro consider rotating the entire mobo,
You'd have much better air flow. Also I would set fans on the same box side, blowing in the same direction.
Also intake fans placed on the bottom, exhaust fans as closer to the top as possible.
This way you will have a steady current (i.e. from left to right) and the cards would not obstruct the air.
I run a similar setup on my balcony, probably will share pictures later on.
Please do.

965  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: April 09, 2012, 03:40:14 PM
Hey guys, looking to further optimize my 5970 rig.  I was completely stable prior to the 0.5 release and now having to reboot my box twice daily to keep the cards from faulting.  I was pulling about 330 MHx2 and was hoping someone else who is using a similar card could share an idea or two on what I could to to push up the limit some.   I've also noticed that my second GPU's Mem is clocking at 1000 Mhz when I've told it to stay at 175.  Am I doing something stupid?

Here's my current configuration:

Code:
gpu0:
  disabled: 0
  # optional command to execute prior to overclocking
  pre_oc_cmd: /etc/init.d/munin-node restart

  #overclocking.. all optional 955/830
  fan_speed: 100
  core_speed_0: 730
  core_speed_1: 730
  core_speed_2: 730
  mem_speed_0: 175
  mem_speed_1: 175
  mem_speed_2: 175
  # core_voltage_0: 1.125
  # core_voltage_1: 1.125
  # core_voltage_2: 1.125000

  # optional command to execute after overclocking
  post_oc_cmd:

  # kernel to use.. currently one of:  phatk phatk2 phatk-bamt04 phatk-svn phatk-1.50 poclbm
  kernel: phatk2
  # phoenix style kernel params.  do not include DEVICE=x
  kernel_params: BFI_INT VECTORS FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=13 WORKSIZE=128

  # file containing pool URLs
  pool_file: /etc/bamt/pools
  # default time to allow phoenix to run without finding a share.. exceed this and we move to next pool in poolfile
  pool_timeout: 180

  # monitoring values, used by email alerts and gpumon
  monitor_temp_lo: 45
  monitor_temp_hi: 80
  monitor_load_lo: 80
  monitor_hash_lo: 125
  monitor_fan_lo: 2000
  monitor_reject_hi: 2

gpu1:
  disabled: 0
  # optional command to execute prior to overclocking
  pre_oc_cmd:

  #overclocking.. all optional
  # fan_speed: 80
  core_speed_0: 730
  core_speed_1: 730
  core_speed_2: 730
  mem_speed_0: 175
  mem_speed_1: 175
  mem_speed_2: 175
  # core_voltage_0: 1.088
  # core_voltage_1: 1.088
  # core_voltage_2: 1.088

  # optional command to execute after overclocking
  post_oc_cmd:

  # kernel to use.. currently one of:  phatk phatk2 phatk-bamt04 phatk-svn phatk-1.50 poclbm
  kernel: phatk2
  # phoenix style kernel params.  do not include DEVICE=x
  kernel_params: BFI_INT VECTORS FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=13 WORKSIZE=128

  # file containing pool URLs
  pool_file: /etc/bamt/pools
  # default time to allow phoenix to run without finding a share.. exceed this and we move to next pool in poolfile
  pool_timeout: 180

  # monitoring values, used by email alerts and gpumon
  monitor_temp_lo: 45
  monitor_temp_hi: 80
  monitor_load_lo: 80
  monitor_hash_lo: 125
  monitor_fan_lo: 2000
  monitor_reject_hi: 2
Im propably the biggest noob who dares give advice here so you might want to wait for confirmation but to me it seems that your feeding stock voltage to a highly underclocked card. It may or may not be the source of your problems, but either way I'd lower the core voltage.
966  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Hashmaster 2000, outdoor mining in the arctic. on: April 09, 2012, 03:17:01 PM
Some pics from inside would be nice. Otherwise great job !

Here you go, couldnt find "the wife's" camera so it's cell phone quality.


I will propably be moving the mobo a bit (10 cm ish) to the left as I add cards, cable management is something to do also.

I should propably also mention that I've hit record temps for this spring:
Ambient (thermometer resting on the box) : 21.8c, direct sunlight ... Im starting to question how accurate my 10$ meter is, the nearest weatherstation is reporting 3,4c
Rig: 34,1c
Gpu range: 51,5-65c
967  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [360GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: April 09, 2012, 11:30:12 AM

Excuse me,but how to "run p2pool with the -a option, with a payment address"?

run_p2pool - a 1QCnJU2qK1ufNouQoEqRhuRkbWU1Qpo2uw http://USER:PASS@127.0.0.1:8336/
968  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: April 09, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
Heres a little something I deviced:


Since I have no intentions of hijacking or siderailing this thread more on the Hashmaster2000 can be found at:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76008.0
969  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: About outdoor housing on: April 09, 2012, 11:02:49 AM
As promised here's what I got running in my balcony:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76008.0
970  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Hashmaster 2000, outdoor mining in the arctic. on: April 09, 2012, 11:01:40 AM
Any measurements here are metric, all temperatures are celcius, prices however are in usd. When considering any prices, do take in to account that Finland is an expensive country, just for an example if I'd buy an item of ebay costing 100$ with shipping, I would have to pay 23$ in taxes when picking it up from the post office.

My open frame rig was doing very niceley untill a litter of puppies rolled in around the 15th of march. But after they did the temperatures in the room they and my rig were in started climbing rapidly as I could no longer keep the window open whenever I felt like. The room heated to about 30-35c, which I found rather unpleasant... and worse yet it promised that the coming summer would be intolerable at best. So I started looking in to ways to vent out the heat and when I could not come up with anything viable I proceeded to looking in to alternative locations for my rig, I managed to find some, but none of them felt like the right one, untill the tought of taking the operation outside occured to me. I live in an apartment building so the only way out for me is my balcony, it's open and I live in a windy spot so I would have to deal with rain and snow to some extent. The temperatures my rig would have to face range from -34 to 35 celsius degrees. That is an whopping 69 degree difference. After taking a some days to think about the environmental conditions I deemed the circumstances tolerable and decided to continue planning this enterprise. I believe that I can negotiate my way trough the temperatures by applying different overclocking, undervolting and  airflow settigs for different times of year. Hence forth known as seasonal overclocking. I am almost certain that the most challenging circumstaces will be during long periods of hard  frost, especially during windy days and the occational snowstorm, to be more exact: preventing fine, light snow from getting in, on and under the rig. That stuff has almost no weight and moves amazingly freely in any direction with the wind.

I quite quickly dismissed building the housing from scratch, mainly because it seemed like the more expensive and slower way to go, also it was likely prove too big a challenge for my limited skillset.
   This might be a good point to ramble about me, just as an example and an encouragement to anyone out there considering taking on a project like this. I have, prior to getting in to bitcoin mining, assembled only two compters from scratch, I haven't got the faintest idea on how electricity actually works and my understanding of thermaldynamics is limited at best. Bottom line: if I can do this, anyone can.

   My first idea abouth the semi-premade housing was a chest or a wooden box with a lid on hinges. I found quite a few available online but none of them were particularly close to me and shipping something this size and weight would be costly. I felt like burning up to 130$ on the "case" and shipping, shipping seemd to make up 2/3rds of the price in almost every item I found.
   So I decided to head out to the local recycling center to see what they had lying around. Turned out there was nothing like the chest or trunk I had envisioned. What however caught my eye was this piece of furniture, I have no idea on what it's intended for nor called, but it would do.



 The material is chipboard, it's got wheels at the bottom, the metal bars on the top could be used for cable management and for hanging gpu's, it could be opened sufficiently for my big hands to fit in and it cost me a whopping 7$. The biggest con with it is that it is not large enough to house 2 motherboards whilst having sufficient airflow.

The limitations I need to take in to consideration when deploying the rig are:
   - It should not draw attention from my neighbours, so not be too noisy and absoluteley no unnecessary lights and it definetley should not look like a hemp growing operation. Luckily the side of the building my balcony is on is subject to near-constant round the clock traffic noise so an estimated up to 40db would most likely go unnoticed.
   - "The wife factor" my rig needs to appear and be safe and somewhat estethically pleasing. The latter I belived would prove challenging with my limited skills.
The rig must at most require two 10 amp fuses.
It must endure indirect rain and snowfall and the wide temperature-range of southern-Finland.

At first I removed the semi openable roofpart, took some measurements of my psu, motherboard and all the bits I intended to squeeze in there. Then I figured out whatkind of airflow I want and what size fans I would use. I also applide some silicone on the inside seams of the box as an additional guard against moisture and to ensure air was only getting in and out from where I wanted.


   My intial design was to use three 120mm fans at the bottom and lower parts to push cool air in and another three 80mm fans to the suck air out. Thus, atleast in theory, creating excess pressure within the case. I also planned on having the psu airflow separate from the rig-box, as it almost always is in computers... but ended up dismissing it as 2 fairly large holes would of have been needed and then I'd have to deal with protecting them from rain and such.
   I proceeded to remove the unnecessary looking bit of wood from withing the box. Cutting the holes on to the case proved an arguous task with my limited tooldbox and as I did not really want to spend a whole lot on tools and materials to be able to use they money to fill the rig with as many Mhs as possible. So I ended up working with what I had: a small electric sander that could be used as a drill, some sawblades, a metal file and sanding paper. It took me roughly 14 hours to cut, shape and sand four holes. At which point I became concerned with the structural integrity of the box if I cut it up anymore.


The fans I used are:
Arctic Cooling F12, 9$ a piece.
Nexus Real silent case fan 80mm, 9$ a piece.

So I proceeded to fitting and installing only four fans. If need be I will be able to add multiple even smaller fans (im thinking the size cpu fans were roughly a decade ago 60-70mm? ) on the bottom and a single large fan on the top of the case. As the outside temperatures start climbing in the coming months we'll see if this becomes necessary. As I tested the arflow with the four fans I felt confident I was good for my four gpu's and fairly sure adding two more would not pose a problem, I remember thinking this thing can suck in a fullgrown sparrow.

   The final step of installing the fans was applying gasket sealant around them. Gasket sealant because I a) had it available and b) knew it will endure the temperature differences. Had I tought of gasket sealant instead of regular silicone-paste when doing up the inside seams of the box I would of most certainly used it there aswell.

I used insulation tape on the edges of the roof, Im fairly sure the kind I used is far from optimal when dealing with moisture and will propably replace it as a better solution catches my eye. In terms of sealing heat and airflow it does seem good tough.


   At this point I needed to start dealing with preventing rain from getting in. I fould a nice solution for the outbound air during my first supply run, unfortunateley I only bought one and by the time I decided I want anothe the store I found it in had sold them out, so the protection on the other side became different. This propably will not be a problem as it will be on the side of a wall and thus fairly protected, also having 2 of the storm protected vents, theres a flap in there that closes should the air start flowing the wrong way, would of have clearly been a restriction on airflow. These bit's cost me 5$ and 11$. The protection of the air intakes is simple pvc-plumbing with a 30 degree angle at a cost of 7$ a piece.



Supply run 1

   I figured the wheels at the bottom were sinked so low that I needed to somehow lift the enrire rig up to ensure neither the ethernet- or powercable get damaged, so I aqquired a pallet from a a store I frequent. They'll most likely give them to you free of charge, but you might want to look for a senior enough emplyee who can determine if the pallet in question has cost the store a deposit. When you get one or anything like this free from a store be sure to make a purchase. I can tell you it's fairly frustrating having performance-related pay and seeing potential customers, whom you've never seen before nor ever will again walk a way with their random free crap without buying anything after you've taken the time to accomodate their needs.
   The pallet also effectiveley prevents water from the balcony floor from getting in the rig and lifts it high enough for me to miss a day or three of shoveling should snowfall reach the balcony-corner for a long enough time to pile up.

I also drilled a small hole for power and ethernet cables at the bottom, I intend to leave the hole as it is atleast for now, I feel it provides a nice additional passive air intake point.

   At this time I felt like it was time to get some hardware in the rig and get it running so even tough it had been a long day of assembly and I should of have been heading to bed I ended up installing the psu, mobo and three gpu's.To begin with the cards I wanted in there were and still are 2 x 5870, 5830 and 5770. A total of 1,4Ghs and a thermal load of approximateley 535 watts before undervolting and clocking. I believe the longest period I slept during that night was around 45 minutes... I kept waking up to check on the rig, so anyone going at a project like this might want to figure out when it's time to call it a day. The next day at work sucked donkey balls an d I actually ended up loosing build time as I needed the following evening to recover. The rig did fine appart from my half ass intial configuration which hosted about a dosen typos and several incorrect overclocking values. After I got them ironed out the rig started showing uptimes of 48 hours and succesfull reboots after a hung gpu.



    The ennvironmental factors it's so far seen incude temperatures of -5degrees to 18 degrees, light snowfall and rain. These have caused no problems.
   Whilst the rig was up and running I painted it, for two reasons: 1. the chipboard will undoubtably suck up moisture if given the chance and 2. It needs to seem less threathening to "the wife". The paint I used is red, intended for brake calipers, once again because I had it lying around. A lighter colour would of have been better when considering the sun heating the rig from outside during the summer. I however am certain that I will be able to provide it shade so I didnt concern myself with this minor detail too much.

   After a week of running the rig it became obvious it was accumulating dust within, I had not yet found a suitable solution for a dust guard, so I went out looking for mosquito nets, fishing nets and anything alike. What I eventually found were some sunblockers intended for car windows costing me 4$. I cut one up and tested it with a loose fan, the airflow wasnt quite as good as the filters from my gaming computer's case (Fractial design Define R3), but I figured they were good eonough so I attached them to the air-intakes with rubber bands. I then cleared the dust from within with an airduster and a vacuum cleaner. I will be posting followups on coming dust accumulation. So far it looks good, the improvised airfilters appear to be collecting dust on the outside. I figure I need to clean them on a weekly basis.
   The lower seem of the front door I insulated with multiple layers of duct tape. The upper seem and sides will be covered with a thin plastic sheet. Before this I intend to tape it up for a while and make sure the temperatures remain within the ok-range. Also I should be dropping in 1-2 more GPU's later this week so I dont want to attach the sheet of plastic while I constantly have to open the box. To attach it I will be using the same material that is holding the PSU in place.


I've also added a simple digital thermometer to sit on top of the rig and to measure the ambient temperature in and outside the rig. Im also adding a fan control unit when the one I ordered arrives.

With the curent setup temperatures are as follow:
Ambient: 7,4
Case: 24,4
Gpu-range: 46-60

Late at night when traffic entirely stops you can hear the rig's fans up to distance of 10 meters, so I'll gladly announce it silent enough.

Current record uptime is 75h (and counting), if I add up the time it had before I rebooted it were well past 100h.

As I mentioned I will be dropping in atleast 2 more cards this week and finalize sealing the front door seams. I will be posting temperatures and voitages as I do. I also intendo on posting temperatures as the outside temperatures start rising.

I would like to thank:

The crew of the finnish bitcoin irc-channel I frequent for their help, suggestions, answers and mostly for putting up with my endless flood of questions.

forrestv and other p2pool developers, if you dont mine there you should.

Lordcrappo for he's extensive work on bamt, if you run dedicated rigs this is the only way to go.

Arctic cooling, their products are quite simply superior, I run 4 of their gpu-coolers and 5 fans atm.

If you have any questions, suggestions or concernes feel free to ask/point them out.
If you find this project helpful and would like to ensure my eagerness on keeping updating it as it proceeds then feel free to make a small donation to: 1F2E2tShUV9VNCzZ25qFU96M6N38WGAZzM

If someone would like to buy adspace on my rig (mainly seen here, the post your rig thread, the upcoming annual rig building contest and at an upcoming finnish btc-site) do contact me via PM, I can accomodate stickers, or make a simple stencil/spraypaint solution.

If someone has a "this sticker adds 5MHS" – sticker I would love to get my hands one.
971  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: April 08, 2012, 06:58:17 AM
Quote
Im having this problem now.  Had a troublesome card lock up my rig, now I have it clocked much lower than its comrades.  

I have tried to delete the no oc file, like I have many times in the past. This time though I get "Unable to create trashing info file: Read-only file system".  I tried a few cold reboots, and ejecting the USB properly in windows like you suggested.  Still unable to delete the file.  I suppose I will re image the drive and try again this evening, since BAMT is so damn easy to install Wink  But any ideas would be appreciated.

After been given the tip about using a windows machine to "safeley eject " the usb-drive, I have not had to rewrite a single Bamt image. However I do suspect a rewrite would solve the roblem your having, do make sure you backup your bamt.conf and pools.conf to save time. I've wasted some time along the road hunting down typos when not doing this.

I'd like to also point out that I have since stopped locking up my rig and at current I have had it stable for a week, which might not sound that impressive to most of you guys untill you hear where it is: *drumroll*
I've moved it outdoors. The weater conditions seen so far range fron -8 to 15 celcius and everyting is looking good.
972  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: About outdoor housing on: April 06, 2012, 06:29:43 AM
Is there anyone have experience in setting up outdoor housing?

1. rain/snow resistant
2. dust resistant
3. good ventilation


I found it extremely difficult to fulfill all the requirement at the same time, if I cover the open frame shelf with transparent foil, then the ventilation will be so bad that the card get much warmer

I even thought about a stove like design to push the warm air out through a chimney, but then I need to vertically place the cards so that the exhaust point upwards...



I am in the last stages of completeing such a project, it's been hashing in my balcony for roughly a week now, in temberatues of between -5 and 16 degrees celcius . I have taken tons of photos and notes and intend to write an article on it, will post link in this thread once I do.
973  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Colorful Kudan iGame GTX 680 on: March 26, 2012, 05:04:14 PM
No. it looks far more threatening this way.
974  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Colorful Kudan iGame GTX 680 on: March 26, 2012, 04:50:57 PM
I'll just leave this here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1233277/wccf-colorful-readies-its-kudan-igame-gtx-680-featuring-the-most-powerful-gtx680-pcb-design
975  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: March 24, 2012, 08:06:41 PM
Mother went ahead on wrote me a noOCGPU0 file, happened before, will happen again untill my risers get here, the card in question is sitting over a rather hot northbridge of the mobo. Somehow the file came out as a read only, I couldnt delete it. chmod 777 noOCGPU0 did not work, after a reboot the file was deleteable tough, wonder what caused this ?
976  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Cheap Chinese VGA Coolers - FTW ! on: March 24, 2012, 07:30:30 PM
I have been looking for replacement coolers for my 5870s.  Any suggestions?  Big and loud is okay Wink

I have 2 5870's running Arctic coolings accelero-xtremes http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/vga/376/accelero-xtreme-plus-ii.html?c=2182 . They are capable of keeping the "overclocked to the edge" cards cool at fan speeds of 50-55%, I do however run them at 90%. Mine were attached to the used cards I bought, there really expensive ... but after running them for 2 months I can really see why and they are very quiet. The cores on my cards are overclocked to 1030 & 980Mhz, producing 474 and 458Mhs. Should you have the chanse to find these coolers 2nd hand or in discount there a "no brainer". Especially look for ones labled fan not working, the replacement fans are 5$ for the entire 3-fan set.
977  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: March 24, 2012, 05:26:26 PM
Could someone mining in P2pool confirm the new difficulty changing working in bamt, im fairly sure it does not, but I'd like a second oppinnion.
To do it you need to edit pools.conf: Minername/sharedifficulty+localdifficulty

So for example:

Miner/1500+1

When I did this and restarted mining the rig never got areound to mining, saw 0mhs flowin on gpumon, if theres an issue I guess it is with either / or + sign in the adress.

Still looking for someone using phoenix miner in bamt to confirm this, pretty please.
978  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [340GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: March 23, 2012, 08:33:16 PM
Im down with this, what would your recomended settings be for 1.7GS/s. Also I wouldnt mind a detailed howto on the setup, I browsed ~5 pages backwards in this thread and cant seem to find one.

Its all much easier than expected!
You dont have to change anything on your p2pool, you just change the miner's name:

Minername/sharedifficulty+localdifficulty

So for example:

Miner/1500+1

You set this on all miners. You can give different difficulty targets, but I dont see too much sense in this..

Miner01/1500+1
Miner02/1500+1
Miner03/1500+1

Maybe this is worth stating on the first page, and/or hinting in the help/wiki/etc?
Lets drop dat diff!

Ente
It would appear BAMT:s pools.conf dosent like this for some reason, propably the / or + sign is confusing it, could someone test and confirm ?
979  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: March 23, 2012, 08:26:33 PM
Could someone mining in P2pool confirm the new difficulty changing working in bamt, im fairly sure it does not, but I'd like a second oppinnion.
To do it you need to edit pools.conf: Minername/sharedifficulty+localdifficulty

So for example:

Miner/1500+1

When I did this and restarted mining the rig never got areound to mining, saw 0mhs flowin on gpumon, if theres an issue I guess it is with either / or + sign in the adress.
980  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Wonder who this solominer is? 88.6.216.9 on: March 23, 2012, 07:11:53 PM
Does the MM vote on bip16 ?
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