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9621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: December 08, 2016, 09:55:58 PM
I gambled because of profit i need money that's why im trying to get money from gambling even i know in the end i will lose my money but taking risk will help me to inspired and try to do some good things to gambled and when i win i never tried to make another bet. Saving them is most important.
Are you winning in gambling ? can you share some techniques maybe i can try to play too what is that site? Is that roulette,dice game or slot games? taking risk is good to me i am too inspired playing when i need something and i want to get that as soon as possible.

He said that he knows in the end he will lose. And his technique is easy, when he already win some he is not trying to bet again.

Maybe he is playing dice game or sports betting where he can easily win and stops when already received some profit from it.

But I suggest that don't aim too much with profit, just gamble to have fun and you'll be fine.
9622  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 08, 2016, 09:48:20 PM
snip

Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)



And you have said that already, that we need to risk part of our earnings. And what makes you think that your system is impossible to lose if there is a required risk?

Just stop encouraging people to scam here in forum and to those people who are getting attracted to this winspiral u2 system.

Dump his site for he is not going to do good with your investments, this is just a total scam.

You are the one that doesn't understand what you are saying, if you think that I'm the same with those DT then that's simply I just can see that your site is really a scam.

What is your interest  missleading people?
In every trade game is a risk.
The risk with the U2 system is to earn less because it is impossible to lose.
If you can not understand the difference between earning less and earning more i can not help you.
if i say impossible to lose it is why it is so.
Among the 300 members or so...you can not find 1 loser.

You can say my u2 system is total scam...
But please let me say that you are wrong and you do not  help people here who are searching systems where you have fun and where you can never lose.

So, don't say that your scam investment has a feature that has impossible to lose that's what I'm pointing out because it came from you that there is a risk.

As a matter of fact, I'm helping people here who are searching out those scam sites and you are counted for having one.

And you are the one who are not helping people because you promote scam.
9623  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Help i fucked up on: December 08, 2016, 02:41:00 PM
I sent some nit coin from my coin base to my normal wallet but I think added the wrong addressing. Is there anyway to recover this. Maybe put the address I sent it to as a new address in my wallet? But how would I do that?

This is the situation that I'm always thinking when sending bitcoins but there is no way to recover the bitcoins that you have sent to the wrong address.

Just take it the lesson that every time you will send, always double check the bitcoins that you are copy-pasting. Bitcoin is not the same as paypal, where you can dispute your transaction.
9624  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: December 08, 2016, 02:35:29 PM
Lots of the markets on there are scams. I have lost around $500-$600 being scammed of BTC on my old wallet. But, if you want to make lots of sales the Deep Web is the place to go. Good Luck!

Yes there are a lot of scammers on there and you should also never buy something from it randomly because in the most cases you will than lose money.

It's true that there are a lot of scammers throughout the dark marketplaces and that is why we call it dark market for those people who are keep on hiding in the dark and doesn't want to expose their shady behavior and activities are there. So don't ever try to have some transactions there or else you will feel sorry about it.
a bad place will never be a good income for you , avoid to deal on there.
dark marketplace is a place for illegal marketers or for a tech savvy only.
the good thing there is only about bitcoin used as the primary payment processor , the rest is just full of bad things.

Thats why its called darkmarket place since the transaction on there is so shaddy and we can't fully trust the person who are dealing with, thats why we need to avoid it if we want to step away from bad frauds and being compromised, and its better for us to deal on outside so we can assure that we are on gray side of transaction matters.
If youre expert enough regarding on your security then its still okay to browse on darknet as long you dont compromise your identity and yes darkmarket is soo very shady and we should really not trust people whos lurking there.

Also don't forget that FBI is also there looking for those possible people that they can chase. That's why you need to be careful upon doing some trades there.

Or its better to say that don't do any trades there because you can't really trust no one there for many of them are scammers.
9625  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 08, 2016, 02:28:24 PM
snip

Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)



And you have said that already, that we need to risk part of our earnings. And what makes you think that your system is impossible to lose if there is a required risk?

Just stop encouraging people to scam here in forum and to those people who are getting attracted to this winspiral u2 system.

Dump his site for he is not going to do good with your investments, this is just a total scam.

You are the one that doesn't understand what you are saying, if you think that I'm the same with those DT then that's simply I just can see that your site is really a scam.
9626  Other / Archival / Re: Do you think that you're addicted to gambling? on: December 07, 2016, 03:32:45 PM
No I'm not either, because I know how to control and secure my funds for real and I understand the risk and problems that I will get if I will get addicted with gambling.

I've learned a lot from the experiences of others and I don't want to happen that to me or else I will experience it with myself and call it as misfortune.

I used to gamble but not to the point that you can me an addicted gambler because I can't stop myself to bet everyday.
9627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 07, 2016, 03:25:34 PM
A lot of people have gambling problems but this is not bad or something because its something that is mostly temporary.

If you have gambling problem then that is a serious problem in my opinion. If you just use your disposable cash, you wont even have any problem by losing it all. But if you lose more than you can afford then you are in trouble.

still having gambling problems is not good because i think you need to solve your problem first before you continue to playing gambling. as long as you still have a problems with gambling, you can not play with calm and you only getting rush because of you're problems. so i suggest you to solve the problems first and if you need other people to help you, then you can asked them.

That's true and if you are not going to solve that problem immediately that will just create another problem. And it is true and happening for most of the gamblers.

Just like if you will not solve your problem in addiction that can make another problem which is going to be bad for you.

Because sometimes you will feel that you are always mad just because you are losing and the funny is that you are getting mad for nonsense things.
9628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: December 07, 2016, 03:18:16 PM
Betting on sport = gambling?
Please write your mind.


Oke, Here is my answer. For me, Betting is gambling, I repeat Betting is gambling. Gambling and betting are two same things. So for me Betting on sport is also gambling. Simple for me.

I don't understand on how people is distinguishing betting from gambling or betting on sports different from gambling itself.

Because they are identifying that betting is another activity which is just related to gambling but they don't know that betting is simply gambling.

That they are risking their money or wagering it for the hope to get some profit in return.
9629  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: December 07, 2016, 03:12:43 PM
if you are using a darknet market you should always be using a mixer such as https://coinmixer.net AND and anonymous bitcoin wallet such as https://TorWallet.com

and of course PGP, TOR over vpn, etc
This is my first time to heard it about torwallet.. looks like the benefits is goods but do you already tried this wallet and how about the fee for every transaction you made since you are recommend it with us i hope you already tested it..
According to the site https://torwallet.com/ that they do not need 3rd party mixer like coinmixer or bitmixer..
The benefits are goods.

torwallet.com is a scam wallet existing since 2012 lol I can't believe people still send money without even research on google  Huh Huh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110656.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112327.0

https://www.reddit.com/r/onions/comments/4a2xfn/anonymous_bitcoin_wallet_tor_wallet/

That is pretty sick indeed people should not even try it than, this is why you always first need to do some research, simply googling is already enough.

This is how it goes nowadays some people trust websites blindly what is stupid and not smart at all, really hating it, everyone should just never have to trust a random website.

yep scary as hell that guy may have some bug inserted to the codes of that torwallet. like they said a scammer is always a scammer. you can never trust one and they will scam be it an online friend or not. they say he is connected to moriairtybitcoin.

the guy always hides on the darkmarket and owns some launder or mixer sites.


That's why I don't trust any of the people that comes from the dark marketplaces because that is their way of living, to scam people.

And even how good you are talking to them still they will remain the same, they don't care about the feelings of their victims.

What is important to them is they are able to have their own source of living which is coming from scamming people.
9630  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BITSANE.COM Cryptocurrency Exchange Platform Is Now Live on: December 07, 2016, 03:06:40 PM
I dont see why the rush for android and iphone apps, the site is still young and those will be costly to build, i think they should wait until there is a larger demand to do that
You might be right about the cost but if they make the site cooler and mobile friendly it will bring in more people/customers. I could remember when I still use yobit and I knew what I had to go through each time I went on their site. Therefore, must users on such site can come in if they site how lovely and easy bitsane website is.

I think it's a good idea to create a mobile site first before creating both an android and iPhone app. There is quite a lot of users that uses mobile phones for anything in their lives. Having a mobile version would really be great because we could get more market than just having a pc version of the platform.

With bitsane's young age, I guess it needs to focus more on the promotion of the site rather than with those android or ios app.

And besides having those type of applications is very high cost needed, so instead of focusing more with those app.

The most important thing to do is to let the people know that there is a brand new exchange site that will surpass the old ones.
9631  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 07, 2016, 02:58:08 PM
The list of  people I scammed?
So far the list is empty...

But you can call me boy...even old boy...because it is so...(lol)

You can say
I believe that winspiral is a horrible scammer...ok
But please do not say:
winspiral is a scammer...because winspiral never scammed and will never do.

So old boy, as of now your list is empty? Because the people are not even falling into the trap of your "impossible to lose" scheme.

So you want to say that for real? That winspiral is truly a horrible scammer of the people who are not yet warned about your tactics?

Don't make me laugh that you will never do scam people because it is your practice already to make profit from scamming people.

If you analyse my U2 system...you can see that I'm right..."impossible to lose"
Try to lose and discover from yourself that it is impossible.
I suppose you are honest because I do not have  proof you are dishonest...
Please do not accuse me without proof...

Again I say, I won't waste my time checking your u2 system and everything about that winspiral investment scam.

And there is no such word that an investment is impossible to lose, even big companies have their ups and down, but with yours? Very funny.

I don't have proof but those people who flagged your trust will proved everything about it.


""I don't have proof but those people who flagged your trust will proved everything about it.""
you are right:
Those people have argument with"horrible design and poor English"
Nice proves...(lol)
The specificity of my system is that it is different with big companies because the profit is zero or more...never in negative.
Sorry if you can not understand this...
What i promise is hold:
Nowadays I say profit is minimum (in average) 20000 satoshi because it is so...it is not a promise.
Average daily profit since the start is 30000 satoshi or so...
Is paying people scam? (lol)

If I say it is impossible to lose it is because it is impossible to lose.






They are not arguing with horrible design and poor English, but they are flagging you red trust for promoting scam investment that is impossible to lose.

Don't tell me that your system is impossible to lose because is no such investment which is impossible to lose.

Even those trusted ones are losing some of their investments and how about yours? Your one of the kind who says that just to get some victims.
9632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 05, 2016, 03:55:03 AM
I think maybe because they are free from state taxes Smiley
but the same thing in my country prohibits gambling sites accessed though not entirely, I think it is very reasonable and many other countries also said it was illegal

Here in my country the government is also prohibiting us to have access in online gambling sites. But I guess online bitcoin gambling sites are not covered.

Because that's not consider to be using the local currency here in country, I just don't know what is the stand of our local government about bitcoin.

Probably there isn't any regulation about Bitcoin, it's inexistent in many countries, they don't have yet a specific law or rule about it. That is a good point at our favour, because when they start having interest on Bitcoins, it won't be good for us... They will try to take some fees, reducing our profit and forbidding BTC casinos for an example. Enjoy while you can!

Yes bitcoin is not yet regulated here because the government is not putting its interest with bitcoin, so gambling online with bitcoin here is just fine.

But online gambling with the use of our local currency or dollars here is not allowed and you will be in jail if they have traced you out.

So when a stranger knocks your door, you already know what will happen next.
9633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 05, 2016, 03:26:02 AM
Well, the main problem often encountered in gamblers is a problem of addiction.
Other than addiction, there are a lot of other gambling problems also there like forgetting responsibilities and ignoring health issues. These types of gambling problems are possible even before getting addicted to gambling, I mean in the beginning days of gambling itself.

We can assume these are some symptoms of getting gambling addictions.
That is the negative effect of gambling addiction, because of addiction we are too focus with gambling and we spend much time with it. We cannot do other responsibilities because all we think is gambling. We failed to live a balance life as the way it should be in this world.

Therefore, one should be very careful with gambling and when you are addicted, try to get out early as you can.

Even we will warn them with our own bad experience with gambling. Addicted gamblers will not care about it for they are enjoying what they are doing.

In the beginning they are not having any problems with it, but in the end for sure too much addiction with gambling will result into bad outcome.

That's why many people are having problems because of gambling in terms of financial.
9634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your average bet per game? on: December 05, 2016, 03:09:30 AM
My average bet is depend on game like head or tail game minimum bet is 0.001 btc so my average bet is minimum bet 0.001 btc
And like dice game is around 1 satoshi minimum bet so for test i make bet 1 satoshi if i want to big more i make bet around 1 mbtc

That's a good betting strategy that when you are playing dice, the minimum amount you are betting is 1 satoshi only.

I didn't knew that there are gambling sites that are accepting minimum of 1 satoshi because I know the minimum bet is a thousand sats.
9635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 05, 2016, 02:57:36 AM
I think maybe because they are free from state taxes Smiley
but the same thing in my country prohibits gambling sites accessed though not entirely, I think it is very reasonable and many other countries also said it was illegal

Here in my country the government is also prohibiting us to have access in online gambling sites. But I guess online bitcoin gambling sites are not covered.

Because that's not consider to be using the local currency here in country, I just don't know what is the stand of our local government about bitcoin.
9636  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: December 05, 2016, 02:40:39 AM
Hi, I am looking for a way to earn some money without invest(because I am broke), I can dedicate 2 hours a day in that. what can I do to make a bitcoin per month without any investment?
Go and find a decent job dont rely on bitcoin to help you. Why not use that 2 hours of time finding a job. You  think you can earn 10 usd a day sitting and online for two hours. It would.be better that you find a real job to have a salary every month.

How can it be possible to happen if op is not replying to this thread on what is his situation now, if he's employed with real job or online job.

But yes, that's the best thing to do is to find some decent job in able to sustain his goal to earn 1 bitcoin for a month.

And better to aim 1 bitcoin a month rather than to aim for 2 bitcoin.
9637  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 05, 2016, 02:30:15 AM
The list of  people I scammed?
So far the list is empty...

But you can call me boy...even old boy...because it is so...(lol)

You can say
I believe that winspiral is a horrible scammer...ok
But please do not say:
winspiral is a scammer...because winspiral never scammed and will never do.

So old boy, as of now your list is empty? Because the people are not even falling into the trap of your "impossible to lose" scheme.

So you want to say that for real? That winspiral is truly a horrible scammer of the people who are not yet warned about your tactics?

Don't make me laugh that you will never do scam people because it is your practice already to make profit from scamming people.

If you analyse my U2 system...you can see that I'm right..."impossible to lose"
Try to lose and discover from yourself that it is impossible.
I suppose you are honest because I do not have  proof you are dishonest...
Please do not accuse me without proof...

Again I say, I won't waste my time checking your u2 system and everything about that winspiral investment scam.

And there is no such word that an investment is impossible to lose, even big companies have their ups and down, but with yours? Very funny.

I don't have proof but those people who flagged your trust will proved everything about it.
9638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: December 04, 2016, 02:19:39 PM
There's always luck involved-sometimes less,sometimes more but luck always plays its role.What you can do is increase your chances of winning in cases of sports betting or poker for example where what you do actually matters whereas in dice or lottery all there is is luck and in these cases it defines the outcome.So I believe that luck is always involved in the game and you have to rely on that.

That is certainly true. But luck is not something that we can enjoy at any time. Because luck will only appear at certain times and maybe if luck came we just get a little victory of whopping and much (huge losses). In gambling do not expect better luck, because it just makes us wrong focus and ended up just getting a major defeat without getting what we dream of or desire

And we don't have assurance when luck will come to us. So, if you think that you are lucky for that day, then take the whole advantage of it.

Gamble all the way but when you think that luck is already gone and it is all giving you now a losing streak, then you are not lucky anymore.

Simple and easy to understand, I don't know why there are some many who are really addicted and doesn't stop when on a losing streak.
If that's the case then simply don't rely on luck. Have your own method to win in gambling and learn to enjoy it as it supposed to be seen like that.

Good point there and that's what some addicted gamblers do. They don't rely with luck and thinks that they are genius enough to beat the house and the game.

It may be effective for sometime and sometimes it isn't. But still in the end, they will ask for luck to come to them, this is the true attitude of gamblers, always relying in luck.
9639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 04, 2016, 02:10:16 PM
I think the problem with most gamblers is that they get into a slippery slope and can't ever recover from their losses. Worse yet, they can't stop thinking about their losses either. So it is a pretty bad situation for them.

The first step to resolving a gambling problem is to acknowledge that you do have a problem - not denying that you have a problem.
You are right, but to a lot of persons admitting they are mistaken is in fact very difficult specially when the mistake is so big that is life changing like being addicted to gambling.

but if gamblers has getting loss they just only said my luck won't work properly so i only get loss in big money. we've seen person like this, and if this is one of our member of family then we should help this person so that person can get out from the problem. beside that, the other problem from gambling is many of gamblers still don't want to stay away from gambling although they know that playing gambling everyday is not good for their money and their habit.

Those people who are thinking that way are crazy, they keep on hoping with their luck that seems to be not working at all.

And that's the problem with them, they keep on believing that luck will come to them one day even they are losing everything.

They won't stop until they have funds for gambling or their lives are not yet wrecked.
Gambling is so risky to lose your money instantly, as Op said ''If you not ready to lose your money, then don't even try to gamble!"
The problem come next is people thinking about their losses instead of let it go and try again and over again to recover their losses, it's bad idea to do and you would fall to gambling addiction.

And the cycle will just keep on rolling and rolling again with those problem with that recovering of their losses and that's always happening.

The outcome of recovering their losses most of the time is failing, so another problem is coming out.

They are even not thinking about what's going to happen if the same thing occurs again when they want to recover their losses, because they will lose again.
It is, and it will only stop when we stop as it's a never ending problem if we still have the money to gambling. Absolutely it could ruin's one life if they are not too careful with gambling and they let it enter into their lives, it's hard to work when you are too focus on unproductive thing like gambling.

Yeah the only solution for all the problems which is related to gambling is by making an initiative to completely stop your addiction.

It's an headache for being a never-ending problem. And yes, it is hard work in gambling because of the same results, lose all the way.

9640  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: December 04, 2016, 01:57:13 PM
Blockchain gives people the opportunity itself to act as banks, holding Bitcoin digital wallets on their computers or smartphones. This is the best that can offer Bitcoin users.

Don't forget the fast transactions that can give by bitcoin whenever we are going need to send some bitcoins to our friends or relatives.

And for those people who will not going to believe bitcoin today, then in the future they will regret it in the end when they sees bitcoin flies high.

Yeah, people who don't like to be a part of the bitcoin will truly feel for it in the future. Price as well the acceptance of bitcoin from local stores is getting increased. Banks will be following the technology of bitcoin to grab the attention of common man too.
They try to compete with bitcoin as they see that bitcoin is very progressive and they want to imitate the system, but one thing they can't imitate is bitcoin being decentralized because banks will always be centralized like the government is, this believer will of bitcoin will not adopt in something centralized as they find freedom online.

They are not trying to compete with bitcoin because they can see the potential of bitcoin and they will abuse it for their service to offer.

Banks are canning they will not enter a game that they know their services will be outdated and lose to some new crypto currency.

So instead of competing, they are adopting it and possibly they are the ones who will implement tax to bitcoin.
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