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981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 08, 2014, 10:14:02 PM
Do I understand this correctly that 90 % of all CGBs are already mined ? So "in 10%" all that's left is POS and Interest...that's pretty cool !

You know what this would be a great opportunity to get some clarity perhaps from MercSuey. The precise details are not critical at this point but I will explain it as I understand it and perhaps someone can correct me. The PoW mining rewards for CGB amount to a total deployment of 1'000'000 CGB. I am not sure if PoS minting is factored into this target, but once the PoW mining has hit its final target of 1'000'000 CGB, the protocol will allow a maximum indefinite inflation rate of %2.00/year assuming all wallet holders are saving for 90 days and minting (not likely), while miners are picking up the %0.5 reward which is given out thereafter. The key point to remember is that this inflation rate is modelled after the gold supply. Like the historical gold supply, it does not hit a limit and stop which would potentially cause unstable deflation and encourage hording.

Are you saying the mining will continue after 1 000 000 CGB have been created and the miners will be rewarded with .5% of all the interests ?

According to the announcement:

•   1.5% Annual PoS Interest
•   Subsidy halving after every 50k blocks until reward of 0.01 is reached were it will remain in perpetuity
•   ~1,000,000 Cryptogenic Bullion cap with 0.5% annual PoW inflation

This could be interpreted that there is a hard cap but the wording strongly suggests by "cap with 0.5% annual PoW inflation" and  "[reward]... will remain in perpetuity" that the 1'000'000 CGB is just a mining target for last non-0.01 reward. From then on a steady rate of at most 2.00% per year increase in the monetary base occurs. In fact the miners will receive at least 25% of all reward, while prudent savers will receive at most 75% of total newly mined/minted CGB.

Yes, as psd pointed out, PoW mining will continue forever at a rate of .01 CGB per block (once this baseline reward is reached). This will occur close to the estimated cap of 1 million, but I would have to take a closer look for an exact calculation. The .01 PoW reward will account for .5% yearly inflation based on the 1 million estimate. PoS interest will pay a max of 1.5% per year - this assumes that all funds are held and not moved, any CGB in circulation would reduce this 1.5% estimate. Basically the max inflation possible is 2% per year once the baseline PoW subsidy is reached.
982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 08, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
I am getting a "Checkpoint too old / notify dev" message but with 8 active connections.

Current blocks:323660
Estimated total blocks: 323654

Client version: v1.1.6.4-gdf9d55a-cgb

Do I need to add some newer nodes? Thanks for any help.

Please download the newest version of the client with updated checkpoint (1.1.6.5):
https://cryptogenicbullion.org/#download
983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: CRYPTOKOPEN.EU LOGO COMPETITION (Sponsored by CGB team) on: February 06, 2014, 11:05:47 AM
Looking good! The talented artists we have in the community always surpass my expectations! Going to be a tough decision for the CK team!
984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: CRYPTOKOPEN.EU LOGO COMPETITION (Sponsored by CGB team) on: February 04, 2014, 03:10:37 PM
Announced via social media outlets. Excited to see what the community creates here!

Good luck Bittick and Cryptokopen.eu!
985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 04, 2014, 03:05:08 PM
Logo design contest for http://cryptokopen.eu (where you can buy CGB for EU) sponsored by CGB:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448668.new#new
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 04, 2014, 02:17:35 PM
987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 04, 2014, 02:13:17 PM


Submitted for your approval Wink

Criticism welcome !

We need to start hitting the doge community with stuff like this. CGB is the answer to their inflationary woes.

-Papersheepdog

I like the pic, but i really dig the idea of infiltrating the doge community somehow. They have a huge community of crypto-newbies that were just pulled into the altcoin world by reddit and the doge, and as they begin to realize that dogecoin prices will crumble due to massive inflation, they need to be convinced to switch to cgb instead of throwing the towel and condemning all altcoins.

I envision striking back with their own weapons, posting memes of doge looking up in awe saying (thinking?) something like "wow; low inflation; much mature; so rare; very better". Only in doge territory though, to "lure" dogecoin users, not as a new general marketing scheme of cgb Grin

Edit: The second-to-last pic would be perfect if there was a little more space on the left side to fittingly place the cgb logo, the text would go on the right/around.

papersheepdog and Ethapus - I think you guys are on to a stroke of genius here! Lets open the eyes of the Doge lovers!
988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 03, 2014, 07:13:48 PM
I don't know if I like the part that says "already 95% mined (rare)".  Although it has been released for many months, and miners have had ample opportunity to mine it, that fact can get twisted and turned into a horde screaming "SCAM!! SCAM!!" really fast.

I'd put something on there alluding to the low amount of inflation through continual PoW and PoS.  Like something to allude to the fact that it is stable and usable as actual currency because of that.  Implies that it is mostly mined already without screaming it.

Then again, inflation is a bit of a dirty word to the crypto world as well.

God damn I don't know, it's like unless you make sure to personally notify every miner in the world of your coin's release and be sure they are mining from block 1, it'll be called a scam.  Oh yeah, and be sure to make the first block halving 5 years down the road so that the guy who builds his mining rig next year can get some too, because 50% inflation rate (from coins that are billed as deflationary) makes for stable currency.

I hate miners sometimes and feel dirty being one of them.

Anyway, I'm started to slip off topic.  I don't know, fuck it, picture is fine!

Good point (and counterpoint Tongue)

Perhaps rather use something along the lines of:
"RARE - Only 1 million + 2% annual inflation"

And perhaps remove the 1.5% from the interest bearing line so as not to throw too many percentages out there.
989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 03, 2014, 06:23:08 PM


Hi Guys,

I am new to the community but very impressed with CGB. I have created the above image and am trying to get some community excitement happening on Reddit over at http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptogenicBullion/. Please let me know what you think of the image (feel free to share) and join us on Reddit as a presence is needed here to really push this amazing opportunity.

Regards,

Papersheepdog


Great work! I will come support the Reddit asap (in the office at the moment). I love the image too! Please pm me your CGB address and I will send you 10 CGB for your personal savings! Keep it up!
990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 02, 2014, 10:52:33 AM
I think this coin got all the qualities to success. However, a quality coin does not mean it will success without a good promotion and marketing effort. Bitcoin success not just because its innovation, but also it is the first cryptcoin and any other to compete with. But now there are more than 100 cryptcoins, so to stand out of the rest, we really need a good marketing team like doge, any one agree? Any good ideas to promote CGB?

Agreed.

I think the success of Doge has been due to an avalanche of community support and involvement. I see lots of threads, twitter accounts, reddit posts, chat box spamming, videos, services, donations, press articles, etc from numerous different individuals (mostly by community members). Doge has done an excellent job of using a catchy image and language to attract a large following - plus I think their launch timing was very good.

I am in complete agreement that CGB needs a lot more of this and the CGB team will continue to push this as a focal point for 2014 and beyond. I have noticed more and more people getting involved in spreading the word of CGB, creating services, etc - so we are definitely moving in the right direction. The more the community gets involved, the more word spreads. The more word spreads, the more people get involved.

We (CGB dev team) are open to ideas from the community and ready to support however necessary (advertising, bounties, etc).



991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 01, 2014, 10:58:53 PM
Buy CGB with EU!
http://cryptokopen.eu
992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 01, 2014, 04:24:08 PM
So what about coins in a paper wallet?   When I eventually import them some day, lets say it is a couple years in the future, will they generate a couple years worth of stake? Or will the stake be lost?

Max coin age for minting is 90 days. You don't generate more stake if you hold longer then that. So to get the highest possible interest rate you would need to import your private key 365/90=4,055 times every year. Or every 90 days to be exact.  Smiley

Ok, lets say I don't import it for a couple years.  Does it mint 1.2% * number of years held or just 1.2% total.

You would mint for 90 days only and it would be at the 1.5% annual rate.
993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 01, 2014, 04:22:19 PM
So what about coins in a paper wallet?   When I eventually import them some day, lets say it is a couple years in the future, will they generate a couple years worth of stake? Or will the stake be lost?

You should import your private key every 90 days and accumulate 1.5% annually. If you wait years, you will receive interest for 90 days, this is the max.
994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 01, 2014, 03:19:18 PM
Marketing idea.

I think it might be a good idea to write a blog post about POS minting and promote it on the forum, twitter and facebook. It seems that many people dont know what POS is and even more dont know how to mint. Promoting POS will probably remove a few sell orders on the exchanges and drive the price up.

Funny you should mention that, great minds, right? lol

I actually wrote a guide last week that is incorporated with the new website to be released. Here is the information for use in the interim:

Guide to Earning Proof of Stake Interest:

The question has come up a few times recently so I wanted to write a guide to direct CGB owners how to earn Proof of Stake (PoS) interest on their CGB holdings. First of all, in case the reader is not aware, CGB is a PoW/PoS (Proof of Work/Proof of Stake) hybrid. What does this mean? This means that CGB can be minted (created) in 2 different ways and each method acts to secure the blockchain and make CGB far more resistant to 51% attack than any crypto that employs either PoW or PoS solely.

First lets look at the PoW (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_work) algorithm. The mining rewards from PoW are what most of the community will be familiar with as evidenced in many of the well known cryptos such as Bitcoin and Litecoin. CGB too can be mined via PoW in the same way as Bitcoin and Litecoin. A couple of negatives about this algorithm are wasted energy (computer hashing power) and attack vulnerability (51%).

Secondly lets take a look at the PoS (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake) algorithm. Proof of Stake allows the holder of funds to earn interest at a variable rate per a specified time period. This interest is in essence a reward to the owner for allowing their holdings to be used to protect the network. If an attacker wanted to target a PoS algorithm crypto, the attacker would have to own greater than 50% of the staked cryptos making the attack pointless, as the attacker would also be the attacked. Additionally far less energy is required for PoS minting.

Again, CGB takes advantage of both afore mentioned algorithms - meaning that CGB can be earned through mining (PoW) as well as through simply holding (PoS). Also, the combination of these two algorithms means an attacker would have to control greater than 50% of the hashing power of the network as well as greater than 50% of the staked cryptos.

Now on to the main point of this write-up, how does the CGB owner earn PoS interest on their holdings?

•   Holdings must be held stationary by their owner for at least 30 days at which point the owner will accumulate 1.2% annual interest.
•   For max interest of 1.5% annually, the owner must hold their funds stationary for 90 days.
•   A locked wallet (highly recommended for security) must be unlocked for PoS minting.
•   Note: The wallet does not have to stay unlocked; it just has to be unlocked periodically. (Again, for max interest of 1.5% annually, one would unlock their wallet every 90 days).

How do I unlock my wallet?
1.   Open your CGB client and let it sync
2.   Go to “Help” tab > Debug window > Console
3.   Type in the below command without the <> symbols and press enter:
a.   For PC
walletpassphrase <'your pass phrase'> 999999
b.   For MAC
walletpassphrase <“your pass phrase”> 999999
4.   Your client will do the rest from here, just allow it to run its course and add the staked CGB to your balance
5.   Lock you client again by simply closing the client

If you have any questions on this write up or suggested edits, please submit to cryptogenicbullion@gmail.com.

995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 01, 2014, 11:51:27 AM
Yes, just a glitch unfortunately, otherwise my orders would have filled Sad
996  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: February 01, 2014, 01:20:01 AM
Started getting a "Warning: Checkpoint is too old. Wait for block chain to download, or notify developers " message on the CGB client.  What does this mean?   The blockchain is downloaded and in sync, I think.  

Make sure you have the most recent client downloaded from the website first. If this does not solve the checkpoint warning, please do as follows:

1. Close your client and go to your AppData/Roaming/CryptogenicBullion folder.

2. Delete everything in your AppData/Roaming/CryptogenicBullion folder except your wallet.dat and config file.  Do not touch the wallet.dat file or else you'll lose your coins.

3. Restart the client and you should see the client downloading the blockchain.

4. Once the blockchain has downloaded, you will no longer see the warning.

997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: January 31, 2014, 11:20:45 PM
Hi Elambert, I could not find any information about premind in thread. Would you mind to tell me that what is the percentage of premind for this one. Cheers.

0.94% was pre-mined and used for promotion and support.
Here is a link to the detailed ledger:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246300.0


very impressive for the transparency of the premind. The more I understand about this coin the more it convinced me to buy more. Just bought another 2k today.

Congrats Percy! Sounds like your on your way to the 5k club!
i just joined  Wink

Congrats and welcome! We have 1k club members and 5k club members. Wonder how many in the 10k club?
998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: January 31, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
Hi Elambert, I could not find any information about premind in thread. Would you mind to tell me that what is the percentage of premind for this one. Cheers.

0.94% was pre-mined and used for promotion and support.
Here is a link to the detailed ledger:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246300.0


very impressive for the transparency of the premind. The more I understand about this coin the more it convinced me to buy more. Just bought another 2k today.

Congrats Percy! Sounds like your on your way to the 5k club!
999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: January 31, 2014, 07:34:22 AM
Hi, whenever I try to load up a wallet after syncing it for a while, it just simply won't load and it will just get stuck at the logo before the wallet GUI loads up. Is this happening to other people? Also is there problems with people's wallets syncing with the network?

The splash screen will show for the first couple of minutes per my experience before the wallet opens and syncs (same with Bitcoin). I have not heard or experienced any problems with syncing with the network.
1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion | The Virtual Precious Metal | The Next Generation of Crypto on: January 31, 2014, 07:32:07 AM
Hi Elambert, I could not find any information about premind in thread. Would you mind to tell me that what is the percentage of premind for this one. Cheers.

0.94% was pre-mined and used for promotion and support.
Here is a link to the detailed ledger:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246300.0
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