I love this project and can't wait to join it. When the sale will begin?
Thanks! We're announcing the new tokensale date the end of the week.. Do you think the token sale is more than 9 days? |
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I think one of their devs told me they want to get it done before WC soccer 2018 indeed. Just hold this coin until late 2018. If it is still shit than there is reason to complain
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Same developers who said everything was on schedule just to scrap all the codes, right?
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This teaches us a valuable lesson. Never invest in Waves tokens. None of them had been successful so far.
I really wished Wagerr to change this but I see no hope now. I don't know if it can see ICO price again. WGR has been holding at initial ICO price for quite awhile now. Don't worry things will pick up after Jan 15th. This isn't true even in USD value. Wagerr dropped %50 based on USD value. Not to mention BTC value because it hurts. What's happening in January 15 by the way? What's the latest news? Dude, the ICO price started at $0.05 USD. That is where it is now. It only dropped for those people who bought in at a later time. January 15th is mainnet release. ROFL. Can you even call that the mainnet release when you can't do anything with it and its basically the same exact copy of testnet except you don't use it for code testing. Its alpha at best. You cannot bet. |
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In the ann thread i readed something about fantasy betting.
Can somebody explain me how i must imagine that?
Its a fantasy if you think you can bet anytime soon. There you go. |
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More on this and other interesting things in the coming update...  There are some good arguments here on both sides. It's actually good having a balanced view.. On the one hand we have 1 person advising not to buy anymore and then another providing positives on the team regardless of setbacks. In truth, the slack was getting a bit silly with the lambo talk. Atleast now people might be more inclined to watch what eventuates rather than blindly buying up. Lotus you seem to know alot about the project, do you communicate regularly with dev's? Yes I speak with David and some of the other team members on a day-to-day basis, and when that guy and a few other trolls says half the team left...it shows how little they even know about the project. Why anyone would believe these guys is just beyond me, unless they're looking for confirmation bias or something. The "half" of the team he's saying that left was an advisor and a marketing guy, who was busy finishing up his degree currently. Their role was mainly for the pre-ICO and ICO anyway, and we've had far better replacements waiting for a few months now. Neither of these guys was anywhere even near essential to this project. We appreciate their work and they did an amazing job with the ICO, but this thing has grown to a scale that they would have trouble doing things alone and they had too much going on in their personal lives anyway to be able to continue to dedicate the time needed to this project. The discord community has already met some of the new guys, especially the new advisors...and they are fairly happy with the choices. Most of them have been community members themselves since the ICO or even before, so they truly do understand things from the holders' point of view. The rest of the community will learn more about them during this next update I'm assuming, I can't spoil too much  These trolls know pretty much 0 about the gambling industry, or even about this project and its members it seems. You don't have to trust either of us, do your own research and watch for this next update...then you'll be able see who was more correct here. Also as soon as the marketing guy left, one of these trolls here created a fake reddit account with his name and starting posting a ton of lies on the Wagerr subreddit and elsewhere. The real one got on to clear things up, but still it shows how desperate some of these people are to try and discredit this project with indirect or completely non-factual evidence and tactics. They're currently trying to run a negative campaign against us on /r/Cryptocurrency and pretty much anywhere else they can get away with it also. Since they can't/won't give other betting projects the same treatment, it's highly unfair and extremely biased...if you want unbiased info then try to research the project as objectively and thoroughly as possible. Lastly, I'll try to check in here and answer questions and such whenever I have a bit of extra time. You are right. I don't know the gambling industry like David the doctor does. He studies gambling medicine. Guess it involves shaking a dice to cure AIDS. I cannot discredit a proven project. I am only reading the series of events that happen and calling a spade as a spade. Read the events to a 3rd party that has no skin in the game. Ask them to label them competent or incompetent. I dare you. This guy is pretty much a paid shill or have so much in it that it has to succeed or he will be homeless. Don't make the same mistake as him. If you really hate yourself and really believe in their mission then buy them when mainnet (not the Jan 15 useless one) with gambling gets a solid date. With b2x fork coming up you don't have to premature buy this failure. To whoever say Bittrex. There is almost no way Bittrex will list this when they are trying to get into SEC compliance while wagerr in their own words is pretty much want to bypass any regulations. |
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Let me summarize the Team's progress so far (or lack of)
- Created an ETH contract to handle MayWeather/McGregor bet even though they chose to go with Wave platform despite all objections (probably didn't know how to write it on Wave platform), but yet they are 'developing' on the Wave Platform.
- Manually sent out payment (why wasn't this scripted/automated?) for MayWeather/McGregor fight
- Pay out 100x more because the payout was done manually (which introduce human error). I don't know about you, but it isn't hard to do a 5th grade math check. Speaks a lot about the team and the lack of debugging by the team.
- Kept coding like monkeys for months until they 'identify' an issue that requires an outside consultant. If they didn't know what the fuck they were doing the plan down to the implement to the T should been designed by a blockchain expert from get go. Also is telling how incompetent the head developer is.
- Due to the fact they didn't draw up the proper architecture/plans from the get go, everything has to be scrapped so they literally sat on their ass and wasted investors' money since most of their useless work went to the trash bin.
- Many team members left the project. I would too before this shitcoin stains my resume.
- Doesn't look like they hire a new architecture/lead dev to handle all the issues above. Expect more delays.
- January 15 2018 is testnet/mainnet blockchain release date. That's it. Afterwards they have to work on the 'betting' portion. In other words, nothing working.
Take your money elsewhere if you are smart.
There's so much misinformation, unfounded opinions, and some straight up lies in here that idk where to even begin lol, just wait for the update(s) and you'll see this guy and the few other trolls get proven wrong on much of this. Most of his posts are just him concern-trolling a few projects he had unrealistic expectations on, and then going into random fits of childish cursing and insults when he doesn't get an instant profit or at any news he doesn't like. Still funny how none of these guys warned about any of the actual crypto betting projects that went under recently, yet they sure find the time to bash this one like it's the worst thing ever. In reality, Wager is one of the best in its sector. Look at the distribution on some of these other betting coins, devs are keeping a ridiculous amount and some still trying to call it decentralized. Meanwhile, the wgr devs have kept only a very modest portion of the total wgr. They also burned nearly 1% of the entire supply by taking on a large amount of exposure/risk with the mayweather promo bet, when they could've just kept it for themselves. The 100x mistake is almost nothing in the long-term, hilarious to see a few of you guys act like it's the end of the project lol DYOR on all of these betting projects and do a thorough comparison, you'll see that this is one of the best of the bunch(circulating supply vs. total supply is a good place to start). There's tons of buy support right now, and hardly any sell orders...so it's not too hard to see which way this one is going. Trying to compare it to btc currently is just lol, since alts as a whole are down quite a bit against btc lately but it'll surely pass after this fork hype. Many of the other betting coins are down a lot more than this one, and a few are at a serious risk of failing...while Wagerr has been slowly expanding the team with solid talent and quietly working hard. More on this and other interesting things in the coming update... One of the best ever awesome team then proceed to hire an outside consultant and...scrapped past 3 months worth of work. Also, half the team left. Good stuff. This is where you say the old team was horrible and terrible while the new ones are the next Vitaliks. Maybe start with hiring people who knows how to create a blockchain. Please, feel free to point at the misinformation.  If you don't see incompetency written on the wall from the chain of events you need glasses. You're right - 100x payout is nothing - but it speaks volume how shitty the team is. They don't have a simple check procedure before doing payout. Giving 2 extra zeros in the end is not oops. It is more like what the fuck? Where is the code review process. If there is one there is no way this would have slipped through. Or just, oh I don't know, do 5th grade math? Someone bet 10k Wagerr at 1.16x return is not 1 mil wagerr back to them. Come fucken on any junior high school kid can tell you so. Then this was proceed by scrapping on all the coding that they did up to this point, but you're still bullish on this? You mortgage your house or some shit on this? I hope not. You will lose the house.  Funny part is that if people listened to the 'FUDers' they would have taken profit and made money. Instead people like you (and lucid) and your shitty advice caused plenty of investors to lose their money. Stop giving out shit advice. There is no mainnet till January at the earliest. There won't be betting, meaning its not even functioning on Jan 15. You will get another 1/2 year target date from there if they even meet the Jan 15th date. There is also no telling if they will make a Franklinstein that barely works. People, go with safer coins out there - there are plenty out there - do your own research. Do not listen to shillers like this that will no doubt cause you to lose your pants. Take notice that I did not shill any coins - my advice is simple: avoid this piece of shit coin, unlike other actors here. To people who say I want cheap Wagerr. There are plenty of shitcoin with less MC on the market. I wouldn't buy this even if it goes to 2 cent. Stuff it. |
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Let me summarize the Team's progress so far (or lack of)
- Created an ETH contract to handle MayWeather/McGregor bet even though they chose to go with Wave platform despite all objections (probably didn't know how to write it on Wave platform), but yet they are 'developing' on the Wave Platform.
- Manually sent out payment (why wasn't this scripted/automated?) for MayWeather/McGregor fight
- Pay out 100x more because the payout was done manually (which introduce human error). I don't know about you, but it isn't hard to do a 5th grade math check. Speaks a lot about the team and the lack of debugging procedure by the team.
- Kept coding like monkeys for months until they 'identify' an issue that requires an outside consultant. If they didn't know what the fuck they were doing the plan down to the implement to the T should been designed by a blockchain expert from get go. Also is telling how incompetent the head developer is.
- Due to the fact they didn't draw up the proper architecture/plans from the get go, everything has to be scrapped so they literally sat on their ass and wasted investors' money since most of their useless work went to the trash bin.
- Many team members left the project. I would too before this shitcoin stains my resume.
- Doesn't look like they hire a new architecture/lead dev to handle all the issues above. Expect more delays.
- January 15 2018 is testnet/mainnet blockchain release date. That's it. Afterwards they have to work on the 'betting' portion. In other words, nothing working.
Take your money elsewhere if you are smart.
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That guy is a long-time troll lol, if you actually believe that fud then that is just sad...as this kid obviously hasn't done any actual research on this project and is just throwing out random bs and concern-trolling. Look at his previous posts lol, the guy is clearly a nutjob with nothing better to do with his pathetic life than continue on with months of this unhealthy fixation on a project he has nothing to do with.
You know whats really sad? A desperate shill like you who obviously has a vested interest... and who cant do any better than roll out retard-level rhetoric and ad hominem attacks. Literally all you do is yell "fud fud fud" and wave away legit red flags. It's embarassing really. You're absolutely right on one count though... I HAVE been coming here for months and warning about this shit project. And so far I've been proven right over and over again. Anywho... unlike you desperate shills I dont have a vested interest here. I actually think it would be hilarious if some dumbass went all-in on this coin right now  Of course to anyone with two working braincells it should be obvious now that they should stay the hell away from this shitcoin. Haha. Funny part about these clowns is that people been asking legit questions but every time the cock suckers like lucid (who is no doubt blowing Dave as we speak), flaming everything as FUD. Now that the team is exposed as incompetent, asshats like lotus making others lose money. Drop this shitty token. Go pick up something else - right now everything in the market is low due to BTG. Get off this shitcoin. Bet Lotus did not tell you guys the part where the very optimistic target date of January 15th 2018 only includes the Blockchain/Testnet without the betting component. Picture that, a betting Blockchain where you cannot make bet. Expect another year of development at best to production. Or they might scrap and remake it again next year. Who knows. Stop bagholding for this guy. |
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Accumulate and hold. Smart money
Why the fuck would you accumulate something that will have at most in best case scenario a blockchain without betting in ~100 days. How is that smart money? |
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dz4505，
Show me which one of your comments in this thread which is supported by further analysis? All your comments are merely your own opinions from your imbalance ego exposing yourself a despicable personality with hatred and serious mental problems.
You have turned into such a lowly state it was all your own deeds to blame. The world doesn't owe you anything. Even if you sabotage the whole world but yet it still can't sooth your own mental problems.
The only solution for you is to kill yourself, not now but in the soon future whenever it makes you feel more comfortable. The world will never cry for your own failure. And of course you don't actually need the world. You know you'll be always great expressing yourself this way!
Failure? Nope. I let this potato go way before this crash and already made much more on strong ICOs with strong teams - ZRX was great. That 10x . I am an investor. You think ICO is a charity that is on you. Haha. Fact is you were better holding BTC than this potato. You are a failure for sure, haha. Sorry for asking channels of communication and analyzing a fail ICO before it fail. Hahaha. Now that you have the tokens back to ICO price like you asked, I hope you scooped up much more of it! Hahaha. You were better the clowns and standups I saw. And you are free. Thanks for the laughs. |
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Actually we can call it a very comprehensive betting platform. Distinctive features have already been shared. Gnosis stated that it would be better than major projects like Augur. It's ico is also very good.
Watch them bring in a consultant to review their code and it gets delay further because lack of competency by the development team. You believe this failure is better than Augur? Haha... |
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uw0tm80,
Sorry that I can't entertain your stupid fud at this moment because I'm too desperate now to scoop more Wagerr preparing for testnet and mainnet which are already very close.
Anyway, please fud more! Thank you.
testnet and mainnet which are already very close. AH HAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHA 'stupid fud'. Its not FUD if it is true. HAHAHAHAHA. This thread has turned into comedy goldmine. Reading all the dumb supporters, like lucidwater who is no doubt blowing David as I type this, lighten my day. Thanks for ignoring all the complaints all from the 'FUDers' from when we said why the fuck wave platform when every other ICO issued temporary ERC20 tokens, to founder being a doctor, to lack of developer profiles. But I sold for profit to bagholders. So I'm good. |
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It was really nice for the team to be open and honest about the development. Bringing on more people, changing the code, pushing to get the master nodes working, good stuff.
Going to give this coin some more time, as always, crypto has severe ADHD and will abandon an easy 10x bagger in 6 months for a 50% gain next week... Oh well.
Load up the truck boyzzzz
Yes! Great thing has just begun! Testnet was indeed already running at backstage among the team. They discovered a security hole so that they're now working on it before the launch. Fortunately, while most coins release their products with serious flaws in hurry, we'd rather focus on solid workability. And many thanks to the weak hands randomly filling my bigger bags. Just be careful accumulating more and more. You said your new to crypto... there are alot of scams around and whilst wagerr is 50/50 at the moment, you dont want to expose yourself to too much risk. Holding what you have at this stage is the best option, cause if they delay January the price will go down to 300 sats if your lucky. And there will be very little in the way of buys in the limited exchanges that accept wgr. No worries! Firstly, by cautiously studying the team's attitudes and words with psychological analysis, which is one of my own specialties, no one of them has shown any common signs that no scammers can avoid to unconsciously display. Secondly, strictly bearing the consequences of their own mistakes and keenly responding to the community's opinions prove that the Wagerr team is taking the project very seriously. I've very often researched on new ICO and other coins attempting to diversify my investment, but still I've not yet found another that can compete with this one, be it the enthusiasm and integrity of a team, and the prospect and vision of a project. You're so retarded it is getting cute. But it isn't the first time I've seen a retard enjoy losing money. be it the enthusiasm and integrity of a team haha...HAHAHAHAHA. The team is so good once they bought in a consultant that knew what the fuck they are doing, they pointed out all the flaws in the design to the point of all the shitty coding they did was useless. Which means NO ONE in the team actually understand what the fuck they are doing or else one of them would have pointed out the flaw. I bet you if they publish the architect, you would go like...well that is retarded. You should join their team. You're already retarded enough to qualify. |
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Were hitting new all-time-lows boys!
Wew lads I have to admit... even I feel a bit bad about the bagholders now.
I mean sure theyre idiots but noone deserves to get battered this bad.
Thank god I let go for 75% profit. Already reinvested the money and made 300-400% more. Enjoy bagholding. From picking Wave platform I already knew gotta go. |
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SONM is just starting. Even bitcoin started at pennies , before it reaches current price. It takes time, be patience.
exactly. people just want their investment x10/x20 within few months, it takes time to deliver the final product. thanks to dumpers my sonm order filled! Glad we can fill your order. One day you might reach ICO price. In the mean time, already making good money I sold SONM into NEO with when it was $7. |
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Things with Sonm scam accusations are going bad. Firstly, I thought that it is just FUD but now I should rethink again. I'm not saying that it is a scam but it has a lot of problems. People were patient so far but patience isn't perpetual. I don't think that SNM tokens will be listed on Bittrex any time soon because of problems around the project and its dividend system. I don't think that price will go up significantly as well. But Sonm story could be similar to Waves. Many were accusing Waves and its CEO about scam. After sometime price skyrocketed. The same could happen with SNM. However, I think that their project idea is very hardly achievable. Centralized computational services will continue to dominate market. There is no problem with centralized computational power as it is much better to buy from established entities. Blockchain can't provide any advantages as it is not mature technology and any serious company will buy it from experimental startups. The only way to sell product is to friends. Have in mind that, folks.
Every day I see questions about the exchanges and the exchange rate. Our dev team want to focus on development. Sonm developers themselves own a lot of coins. How can they not be interested in the success of the product? I agree that exchanges aren't the priority as development is. I like such approach of a serious company: Exchanges: We have decided to delay exchange talks and focus on the development for the first few months. We are running a company, not a pump and dump campaign. If that’s what you were looking for, then you have come to the wrong project. We are playing the long-term, not the short-term game. A business is not built in a few months. A full-scale marketing strategy is planned out with proper content scheduling, and that will be released when the time is right. We are aware of the low-volume so in order to address that concern, we are reviewing processes to assist the liquidity on the exchanges, and further updates in this regard will be communicated in due course. You like their approach of lying at every corner of the way from preico getting less than ico ppl to promising exchanges to now suddenly change their focus. Expect changes to their roadmap. Not in a good way. Hi there! According to our business overview, the exchanges aren't planned until this winter. You should read it sometime https://sonm.io/Sonm-BusinessOverview.pdfAccording to your Founder Bittrex soon. Do you need me to post the picture yet again? Greetings! Bittrex didn't add any coins except for BitcoinCash last month. Stay tuned, SONM Community Greetings, Your founder statement was back in June. You know when any coin that had a pulse was added to Bittrex. |
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Things with Sonm scam accusations are going bad. Firstly, I thought that it is just FUD but now I should rethink again. I'm not saying that it is a scam but it has a lot of problems. People were patient so far but patience isn't perpetual. I don't think that SNM tokens will be listed on Bittrex any time soon because of problems around the project and its dividend system. I don't think that price will go up significantly as well. But Sonm story could be similar to Waves. Many were accusing Waves and its CEO about scam. After sometime price skyrocketed. The same could happen with SNM. However, I think that their project idea is very hardly achievable. Centralized computational services will continue to dominate market. There is no problem with centralized computational power as it is much better to buy from established entities. Blockchain can't provide any advantages as it is not mature technology and any serious company will buy it from experimental startups. The only way to sell product is to friends. Have in mind that, folks.
Every day I see questions about the exchanges and the exchange rate. Our dev team want to focus on development. Sonm developers themselves own a lot of coins. How can they not be interested in the success of the product? I agree that exchanges aren't the priority as development is. I like such approach of a serious company: Exchanges: We have decided to delay exchange talks and focus on the development for the first few months. We are running a company, not a pump and dump campaign. If that’s what you were looking for, then you have come to the wrong project. We are playing the long-term, not the short-term game. A business is not built in a few months. A full-scale marketing strategy is planned out with proper content scheduling, and that will be released when the time is right. We are aware of the low-volume so in order to address that concern, we are reviewing processes to assist the liquidity on the exchanges, and further updates in this regard will be communicated in due course. You like their approach of lying at every corner of the way from preico getting less than ico ppl to promising exchanges to now suddenly change their focus. Expect changes to their roadmap. Not in a good way. Hi there! According to our business overview, the exchanges aren't planned until this winter. You should read it sometime https://sonm.io/Sonm-BusinessOverview.pdfAccording to your Founder Bittrex soon. Do you need me to post the picture yet again? |
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Things with Sonm scam accusations are going bad. Firstly, I thought that it is just FUD but now I should rethink again. I'm not saying that it is a scam but it has a lot of problems. People were patient so far but patience isn't perpetual. I don't think that SNM tokens will be listed on Bittrex any time soon because of problems around the project and its dividend system. I don't think that price will go up significantly as well. But Sonm story could be similar to Waves. Many were accusing Waves and its CEO about scam. After sometime price skyrocketed. The same could happen with SNM. However, I think that their project idea is very hardly achievable. Centralized computational services will continue to dominate market. There is no problem with centralized computational power as it is much better to buy from established entities. Blockchain can't provide any advantages as it is not mature technology and any serious company will buy it from experimental startups. The only way to sell product is to friends. Have in mind that, folks.
Every day I see questions about the exchanges and the exchange rate. Our dev team want to focus on development. Sonm developers themselves own a lot of coins. How can they not be interested in the success of the product? I agree that exchanges aren't the priority as development is. I like such approach of a serious company: Exchanges: We have decided to delay exchange talks and focus on the development for the first few months. We are running a company, not a pump and dump campaign. If that’s what you were looking for, then you have come to the wrong project. We are playing the long-term, not the short-term game. A business is not built in a few months. A full-scale marketing strategy is planned out with proper content scheduling, and that will be released when the time is right. We are aware of the low-volume so in order to address that concern, we are reviewing processes to assist the liquidity on the exchanges, and further updates in this regard will be communicated in due course. You like their approach of lying at every corner of the way from preico getting less than ico ppl to promising exchanges to now suddenly change their focus. Expect changes to their roadmap. Not in a good way. |
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fud=buy
don't know why support even bother to answer these impatient stupid guys for the umpteenth time about why the price isn't doing what they'd hoped
Majority of the time, When a project is badly criticized along with a lot of fuds, It usually does well in the future. The team may have flopped (that's what the fudsters think). That will make them improve better in order to build a top supercomputer platform. I'm gonna get cheap SNM tokens left by dumpers the next time I'm on liqui. Most of the guys fudding here will come back to cry later in this thread. Pay no attention to them. Every shitcoin must be in your portfolio then. Already sold this shit bag coin and recovered my loss and gain more. |
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Don't FUD with us Judging by the "professional" responses given so far, I would say the average age of the team is about 12. |
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