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Guys, it is real.
NVidia cards 1080 or 1060 without display ports. 50,000 chips in this batch. 6 cards in a mining rig with a mother board , cpu,RAM all tunned for mining , sales price may vary from RMB 18,000 or 2650USD to 21,000 RMB or 3000 USD per rig.
But, it won't be available to most of the miners. it is pre-ordered,These rigs are under the name of strategic defence initiative from NVidia against AMD cards or so they call it.
so, go back to the point that was discussed before: no need to hold on your nVidia farm plan cause: this batch is very small, if you don't know it from months ago, you won't be able to get them.
where are the photo to see if this is real or not? also it seems that these gpu can not be sold to normal customers, but just for industry usage, becaue the 90 days warranty is illegal in europe You are right, it is not targeting you guys. and they do not sell it in EU. if you want to buy it, you buy it from dealer who probably will add warranty. but again, it is not for individual customer and it is not intended to either that is why they use 1080/1060 cards and did no other modifications but just strip out video output so that it doesn't disturb the gaming market. |
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Guys, it is real.
NVidia cards 1080 or 1060 without display ports. 50,000 chips in this batch. 6 cards in a mining rig with a mother board , cpu,RAM all tunned for mining , sales price may vary from RMB 18,000 or 2650USD to 21,000 RMB or 3000 USD per rig.
But, it won't be available to most of the miners. it is pre-ordered,These rigs are under the name of strategic defence initiative from NVidia against AMD cards or so they call it.
so, go back to the point that was discussed before: no need to hold on your nVidia farm plan cause: this batch is very small, if you don't know it from months ago, you won't be able to get them.
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This place is getting stranger by the day. !!!
Yep, at first I loved this thread but the logic and speculation have been replaced with pitchforks and tin foil hats. From my point of view........ yes, tin foil hats, but those who don't care what's GAW is really doing are wearing them. Yes, you are receiving BTCs now, but for how long? don't you care about that? This scam won't last long, what about their last batch of customer? maybe you don't care about them. How about the whole eco system? I guess you don't mind this industry become full of scams. That's why we want to show you some fundamentals. I'm really glad that people like Gavin Andresen expressed concerns. |
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Just like lunamine...sounds too good to be true, and it probably is.
Did lunamine show pictures of their data center? Did they show their faces and names? Did they have a brick and mortar company, with an office you can visit and express your thoughts? Did they offer you credit card payments? Apples and oranges... Are you kidding me? that photo of their "datacentre" with innosilicon A2 miners (that's 90MHs for each miner). Are you telling me that you can see 1655 A2 terminator miners in that photo  (149000MHs as of today for GAW's cloud mining). I bet innosilicon didn't sell that many to them. Again, check with innosilicon. |
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There are so many hard evidence out there, GAW is running a very dodgy business.
Still, there are people buying into Josh's bluffing.
They don't think logically, they choose to believe what they want to believe. And they try to find excuses for their own ignorance.
And still you have nothing. What do you mean nothing? why are you forcing me to ask these questions again? no one has answered them yet. Can ANYONE give me some logical answers?! Where is the 500MH VaultBreaker now?
Why GAW can not deliver it in real?
Why Hashlet does not have any real specification?
Why the return graph does not make any sense?
How did GAW support it's huge customer base with a tiny mining farm?
What are they trying to hide from us? I want to add some more: Why can't we choose our own workder ID? Why those mining pools have not had any hash power from GAW? Why lie about the $8M M&A? |
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There are so many hard evidence out there, GAW is running a very dodgy business.
Still, there are people buying into Josh's bluffing.
They don't think logically, they choose to believe what they want to believe. And they try to find excuses for their own ignorance.
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Here are some of the real facts: GAW has already delivered asic miners all around the world to many people. Their webpages, products, controllers, ect all work correctly. Most all of their customers are satisfied with them, myself included. Now I don't honestly know what is going on behind the scenes, but at this point I'm pretty happy with them.
They did deliver miners, but that's why they are even more dangerous. They started as a legit scrypt ASIC miner reseller, but now turned into a legit/scam hybrid. Did you read my previous quotes from that website? If you buy physical miners from them now, they will probably deliver (maybe still have a small stock) or they will try to convert you to their "cloud miner" customer. Some of their legit customers will defend GAW, that's Josh's plan. A "cloud miner" service with no physical miner:
Well, is the title exaggerated? We did some research.
For GAW cloud mining customers, you know what we are talking about.
Have you ever wondered why GAW don't allow us to choose our own worker ID?
How come different pools generate exactly the same return curves?
The logical reason is that those numbers and graphs are all ARTIFICIAL!
There is no real miner behind this operation.
They took our money and told us that we bought miners in the cloud.
Well, maybe it is up in the air.
And we found something interesting... A "reseller" no longer buy from ASIC manufacturers:
We all knew that GAW started from selling Scrypt Miners not long ago.
With the huge tens of millions per month revenue number Josh publicly claimed,
and now with even more demand for the "cloud mining" service,
GAW must have purchased a lot of hardware miners from scrypt ASIC manufactures,
RIGHT?
We used our connections and talked to all four scrypt ASIC manufactures:
Innosilicon (A2), Gridseed, Zeus & SilverFish.
We found out that GAW has not purchased miners from any of them for some time.
You don't have to believe me, ask those ASIC manufactures.
Dear GAW CEO, Could you please answer the following questions?
Where is the 500MH VaultBreaker now?
Why GAW can not deliver it in real?
Why Hashlet does not have any real specification?
Why the return graph does not make any sense?
How did you support your huge customer base with a tiny mining farm?
What are trying to hide from us?
Magicians from GAW are trying to move our attention away from the truth.
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Dude, stop the charade YOU are flexhash because nobody else heard about them before you. I like the skin on the site though although the content sucks. Good luck selling something when you're value prop seems to be "the other guy sucks, buy from us."
I do not care if they are competitors. Maybe flexhash is another GAW scam, we don't know and I do not care. what I do care about is that flexhash did list very valid points against GAW. And GAW cannot address any of thoes allegations. Do you understand my English? |
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What a great show of propriety and class. And that grammar... I think I saw a guy with similar style in here. Next time take a deep breath before you write something, less chance you'll humiliate yourself again.
Oh, so now you are attacking other people's "propriety and class"? How ignorant. You have nothing to defend GAW, so you decided to attack other people's grammar? That's just great! Again, Answer those real questions! stop these meaningless arguments. Why so mad bro? Are you a customer or just the Internet police? I do not want the whole crypto currency eco system to be ruined by scammers like GAW. Do you OK, just Internet police troll. Thanks for protecting us from the bad man. Also, FlexHash | The real hash power leasing platform Sounds like a competitor talking trash to me. That's from Google but I guess I should screencap for "evidence" Maybe they are competitors. We don't even know what kind of products or services they are going to offer. However, what I do care about is that flexhash did list very valid points against GAW. GAW cannot address any of thoes allegations Or maybe you should contact those ASIC manufacturer to see if flexhash is lying. |
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What scam? Yes I know nothing about any of this. I read hashtalk and talked with both the owners and the clients before buying anything, all of them were friendly and eager to help.
I also saw a large number of people who were taken care of by the support both here and on hashtalk. Sorry but I don't know what you're talking about.
So you don't even know that hashtalk is an operation of GAW??? man, you really have a lot to learn. GAWminer, Hashtalk, Hashlet, ZenMiner, ZenPool, they are all members of Josh's scam family. Oh, and now including BTC.com |
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What a great show of propriety and class. And that grammar... I think I saw a guy with similar style in here. Next time take a deep breath before you write something, less chance you'll humiliate yourself again.
Oh, so now you are attacking other people's "propriety and class"? How ignorant. You have nothing to defend GAW, so you decided to attack other people's grammar? That's just great! Again, Answer those real questions! stop these meaningless arguments. Why so mad bro? Are you a customer or just the Internet police? I do not want the whole crypto currency eco system to be ruined by scammers like GAW. Do you |
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Why are you spamming this all over the forum? I've seen this in another thread and as far as I know this is not allowed.
So I quoted the same content twice, and it's called spamming, but GAW treated us like fools and that's not a scam? Stop talking about irrelevant things, answer the questions if you can. Prove GAW is not a scam if you really like Josh Garza. Nobody has to prove anything to you, don't like it don't buy it. I did about 2 weeks ago and don't regret it. You're spamming this trying to shove the link to your site down our throats  nobody cares. So you you knew nothing about the scam and even when other people try to pull you out of it, you are still happy to stay in it and defend it. How clever! Josh must be really happy to have you as his loyal customer. So far, GAW and Josh's friends did not answer any of those questions. All these guys did was to avoid the questions. |
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What a great show of propriety and class. And that grammar... I think I saw a guy with similar style in here. Next time take a deep breath before you write something, less chance you'll humiliate yourself again.
Oh, so now you are attacking other people's "propriety and class"? How ignorant. You have nothing to defend GAW, so you decided to attack other people's grammar? That's just great! Again, Answer those real questions! stop these meaningless arguments. |
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Why are you spamming this all over the forum? I've seen this in another thread and as far as I know this is not allowed.
So I quoted the same content twice, and it's called spamming, but GAW treated us like fools and that's not a scam? Stop talking about irrelevant things, answer the questions if you can. Prove GAW is not a scam if you really like Josh Garza. |
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Hahah yeah I'm one of GAW because I have their signature You obviously are new to this forum, so I'll spare you the research and tell you right away that GAW signature campaign has close to 80 members, so there are 80 people posting here with a link to their site not only me. Try harder! Of course I knew that GAW paid to get you guys put their link in your signature. You are helping those scammers! Don't try to avoid the real questions, answers them! Those questions are clear and straightforward? If you don't know anything about GAW scam and still you decided to help them, then you are making yourself a fool. |
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No wonder you are protecting GAW, you are one of them!  |
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Yes a newbie registering here to bump a thread written by another newbie is very suspicious and should not be taken seriously. Especially if these newbies have no proof.
What website? The one you created? You're putting so much effort into making it look like there's more than 1 person attacking GAW here, but you can't hide your activity and post count.
Well, you can talk the talk, but obviously, you either no little about GAW or you are on their side for some reason... I never wanted to hide anything, instead, I want to let people know more. Yes, this is a new account, again, so what? what is your point? Don't argue with me, answer these: (In case you are too busy to access https://flexhash.com/ ) So... Is GAW a scam? You tell me... A CEO enjoys bluffing:
Spent $8M USD to acquire Zenminer?
But we know Zenminer was an operation of GAW in the first place!
So, that's $8,000,000 from Josh Garza’s left hand to his right hand?
And another $1,100,000 spend on a Domain name?
Can anyone not from GAW confirm this?
Josh must have made a lot of money from his customers by selling miners.
Or, DID HE???
A "cloud miner" service with no physical miner:
Well, is the title exaggerated? We did some research.
For GAW cloud mining customers, you know what we are talking about.
Have you ever wondered why GAW don't allow us to choose our own worker ID?
How come different pools generate exactly the same return curves?
The logical reason is that those numbers and graphs are all ARTIFICIAL!
There is no real miner behind this operation.
They took our money and told us that we bought miners in the cloud.
Well, maybe it is up in the air.
And we found something interesting... A "reseller" no longer buy from ASIC manufacturers:
We all knew that GAW started from selling Scrypt Miners not long ago.
With the huge tens of millions per month revenue number Josh publicly claimed,
and now with even more demand for the "cloud mining" service,
GAW must have purchased a lot of hardware miners from scrypt ASIC manufactures,
RIGHT?
We used our connections and talked to all four scrypt ASIC manufactures:
Innosilicon (A2), Gridseed, Zeus & SilverFish.
We found out that GAW has not purchased miners from any of them for some time.
You don't have to believe me, ask those ASIC manufactures.
Other concerns:
Never, never, never use a website that ask for your personal details
and financial information without SSL (https://)
We cannot believe that a "big" company "spent over 1 million USD on a domain name"
doesn't know how to protect their customers at all.
SSL is the most essential thing.
Maybe GAW doesn't care if their customers' ID were stolen. Dear GAW CEO, Could you please answer the following questions?
Where is the 500MH VaultBreaker now?
Why GAW can not deliver it in real?
Why Hashlet does not have any real specification?
Why the return graph does not make any sense?
How did you support your huge customer base with a tiny mining farm?
What are trying to hide from us?
Magicians from GAW are trying to move our attention away from the truth.
There is no comments yet. I share the same concerns. https://flexhash.com/category/discussion/ |
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In case you are too busy to access that https://flexhash.com/ website, here's some info from there: So... Is GAW a scam? You tell me... A CEO enjoys bluffing:
Spent $8M USD to acquire Zenminer?
But we know Zenminer was an operation of GAW in the first place!
So, that's $8,000,000 from Josh Garza’s left hand to his right hand?
And another $1,100,000 spend on a Domain name?
Can anyone not from GAW confirm this?
Josh must have made a lot of money from his customers by selling miners.
Or, DID HE???
A "cloud miner" service with no physical miner:
Well, is the title exaggerated? We did some research.
For GAW cloud mining customers, you know what we are talking about.
Have you ever wondered why GAW don't allow us to choose our own worker ID?
How come different pools generate exactly the same return curves?
The logical reason is that those numbers and graphs are all ARTIFICIAL!
There is no real miner behind this operation.
They took our money and told us that we bought miners in the cloud.
Well, maybe it is up in the air.
And we found something interesting... A "reseller" no longer buy from ASIC manufacturers:
We all knew that GAW started from selling Scrypt Miners not long ago.
With the huge tens of millions per month revenue number Josh publicly claimed,
and now with even more demand for the "cloud mining" service,
GAW must have purchased a lot of hardware miners from scrypt ASIC manufactures,
RIGHT?
We used our connections and talked to all four scrypt ASIC manufactures:
Innosilicon (A2), Gridseed, Zeus & SilverFish.
We found out that GAW has not purchased miners from any of them for some time.
You don't have to believe me, ask those ASIC manufactures.
Other concerns:
Never, never, never use a website that ask for your personal details
and financial information without SSL (https://)
We cannot believe that a "big" company "spent over 1 million USD on a domain name"
doesn't know how to protect their customers at all.
SSL is the most essential thing.
Maybe GAW doesn't care if their customers' ID were stolen. Dear GAW CEO, Could you please answer the following questions?
Where is the 500MH VaultBreaker now?
Why GAW can not deliver it in real?
Why Hashlet does not have any real specification?
Why the return graph does not make any sense?
How did you support your huge customer base with a tiny mining farm?
What are trying to hide from us?
Magicians from GAW are trying to move our attention away from the truth.
There is no comments yet, but it seems they really don't like GAW. https://flexhash.com/category/discussion/ |
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You all newbies with activity 0 suddenly have so much information to share with us... OP are you going to make new accounts now to pose as a customer?
This is as obvious as it gets.
So new users' words should be ignored? That website listed very clear any logical reasons about GAW scams. As I said previously, if you want to defend GAW, be logical. Are any of those concerns invalid? Do not protect those fraudsters. The crypto currency industry needs trust, those con artists like GAW are destroying it! |
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I posted these in another thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=749980 I am a GAW customer as well. But I have to admit that now I understand more about GAW's "business model", and they are very very dodgy. They are selling a "service" with no real miner on the back. They have a tiny "data center" which is just a small basement. There is a website collecting information about GAW fraud, and I believe all the questions they raised are valid: https://flexhash.com/ So GAW is simply gambling with customers money. They are betting on difficulty increasing and LTC price dropping. Yes, they are still paying out, but I am wondering who manipulated LTC market recently? With leverage, it doesn't cost a lot of money to make LTC price drop. If you don't care how GAW use your money, feel free to join them. But this type of "business" is destroying our crypto currency ecosystem, destroying the whole mining industry and making good profit from miners like us by manipulating the market. Who want to stay in a world full of scammers? If you really want to defend GAW, be logical and find hard evidences. It's doesn't mean anything simply claiming you are a customer. Maybe you are at higher layer of a ponzi scheme, but still, it's a ponzi scheme. Later customers will be victims. Do not help those fraudster! |
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