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Launching latest wallet version 3.0.1 and going to try and stake a few, I have less than 500 CBX I think.
It's connected to a few peers and syncing now, going to take a few hours, I think it started from scratch, says 7~6 years. I'll let it run and then split whatever coins I have.
What other exchanges have it now? Maybe try to get it listed on txbit or something.
Nice. I've split around 5000 into 100's hopefully this will keep things moving. One of the problems was that a staked input would not be eligible to stake again until after 25 confirmations. Not sure if any of those exchanges have a working wallet so be very careful sending funds to and from! I think the only saving grace for CBX now would be for elambert to fully hand the reins over to someone with an interest on taking this old relic forward. |
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A single amount in your wallet will only stake once per hour. If you use the 'custon change address' option in the send tab of the wallet and check the 'Split UTXO' box you can send a transaction to yourself and create multiple inputs.
The wallet will automatically split balances above 500 CBX when staking, but any amount lower than this will remain as one input.
If everyone could create multiple inputs of at least 100 CBX, this should help by allowing your wallet to stake multiple times per hour.
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Sorry guys, I did not follow this thread for few days (Bitcointalk didn't send me a notification of new post to the thread update - that's strange). I assume the correct conf file is "bullion.conf", because after I put the "connect" entries there, they made an effect. Last few days I have installed temporarily nodes on two Linux servers, synced them from scratch, and will try to modify the source code a bit, to stake at least once... I assume the wallet doesn't stake, because it thinks it is not synced. So I want to forcefully set the "synced" status and see what it does... Lets see if this works, if not, I'll try to send the transaction as Timelord2067 suggested. UPDATE: well, it seems this indeed worked!  My wallet staked once, then some other wallets started staking, and the chain is moving ahead now! Now we need just two things: (1) enough stakers to move it further (I have just 12 inputs..); (2) somebody doing anything to revive not only the blockchain, but the coin itself... My wallet is now back in synch and staking again. It did stop along with Chainz block explorer for 22 days. Looks like whatever you did, got it moving again. Good job drays👍🏻 Now to continue performing CPR until someone resuscitates, or until all hope is lost and forgotten. Such a shame. |
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Well, I'll stick around, see if I can help move this somewhere. I'm not a dev, so will have to look and see if we can get anyone to add masternodes or other features to it.
There were two attempts previously to do something. Spark, and then Aptum. I think, no need to do any other new name, just add features.
I've seen some old altcoins that recently got a dev to add masternodes, but the coin itself didn't do any other marketing attempts and it's still the same, although too early to tell. At least it's "alive".
Think it's a community effort now dabs. I'll try to do what I can, and this is a start I suppose. Not sure if we now need or want masternodes. Bullion is good as it is. Just needs more attention from outsiders and a little help here and there from the community. So if there is anything you can do to help out it will be appreciated. Thanks |
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Bullion is now listed on DagX.live!!
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They are listed on
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Signing up is quick and easy and can be done by clicking the link below
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This is a great chance to get bullion noticed by newcomers and grow as this exchange grows.
Please give your support by signing up and and using the exchange to buy and sell bullion.
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On a lighter note. For those that have not been following the bullion telegram group. I've been working on getting CBX listed at a new exchange. I'll make a proper announcement when the listing goes live. Cool new exchange. USD, GBP and EURO deposits and withdrawals. We will be starting on a CBX/BTC pairing. Currently in testing phase and will be live very soon. https://dagx.live/register?ref=P8JTNF |
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Oh yeah, that's right. There will be a fork, and ... maybe a snapshot. So CBX will remain CBX, and then everyone gets the equivalent BXX which can then be snapshotted or swapped for Aptum. BXX will then become worthless after the swap, or when Aptum starts running. (Maybe there will be some time to continue the swap later, but I wouldn't count on that.)
Be interesting to see how many BXX are swapped. Will be somewhat representative of Bullions active supply. |
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I guess trade on whatever other exchange is left, or save it for the swap. (Or don't swap and wait for moon, because after swap there will be less supply.)
I thought there would be a fork to create BXX. Bullion would continue as Bullion, and BXX would be swapped for Aptum. |
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I voted. But whatever majority vote for, is a good indication what people want.
Could you explain a little bit more what these mean? Or be specific as to what the large, medium, and small mean in terms of actual numbers and digits. Like, is it 1B, 1M, and 10M or 100M ...
Currently the base reward per block is being debated. It may be 1'000'000 coins (large), 1'000 coins (medium) or 1 coin (small) as a block reward. With a target for the block time of about 15 seconds, we will have the following three emissions as possibilities: When using the large supply, 2.19 trillion coins would be emitted every year. When using the medium supply, 2.19 billion coins would be emitted every year. When using the small supply, 2.19 million coins would be emitted every year. Since the number of atomic units will stay the same, the question only is how many decimals to use. None for a large supply, 3 for a medium supply and 6 for a low supply. Who needs emission anyway, am I rite? Are there any thoughts in here on having no emission of new coins but still have a transaction fee? This way you cant say that new coins are created unfairly and that the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. With 1000 DPoS nodes, a 2ct transaction fee and a maximum utilization of the resources the network has, a node would still make 76M USD/Year. Interesting. Although I do think a small amount of growth is needed to account for lost/forgotten and misspent coins. Without the creation of new coins Aptum would be deflationary. People tend to hold on to things that become scarce over time. The numbers that we are dealing with, in regard to the total supply of Aptum, may not make much difference within the distant future. However I think there needs to be a balance to ensure the active supply remains somewhat constant. |
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Will CBX develop further? Or the project will die after a fork?
It will not die. I will continue running my vault, as I guess others will do so. Think about it as being in hibernation, until fairer weather arrives  |
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Aptum logo was created and has been added to the thread, community feedback would be very much appreciated.
Looks good. Nice simple design |
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Voted DPoS. Energy efficiency will be a large factor in the success of crypto's in the not too distant future.
Will be interesting to see how the development of this version of PoS goes.
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Thanks for the explanation.
So in DPoS will there be no coin age requirement?
If coins are not burned, then the same input that staked the current block, would be eligible to stake the block after?
Will the preselected validators nodes, be nodes ran by yourself and others on your team?
If so, as the network grows and matures, would you be looking at a way to address this and allow the network to be more decentralised?
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Could DPos and POA be briefly explained so I know what I'm voting for?
DPoS would basically be PoS with preselected validators which have to be online. If a validator is not online, the block will be skipped. DPoS is chosen instead of PoS to have a minimum weight for every participant, which ensures that the block creator will be online. In the beginning, I would like to set the minimum to 0.1%, which of course would be lowered later on. PoA is PoW combined with PoS, to ensure that there are no 51% attacks and no orphans. First one will randomly find a proof of work block and submit it. Then 100 previously selected (dependent on the previous block) validators will sign the block, and if one of them did not sign the block, the block will be invalid and you will be forced to wait for the next one. PoA would be much more difficult to implement, add more garbage that has to be sent from one node to another. It would drastically increase the time needed for each block to be confirmed, implying that the block time has to be increased from 15s to 2 minutes or more, increasing the average confirmation time to approximately six minutes, assuming just 1% of the nodes are offline; with 10% of the nodes being offline, it would be one block every 26 days. On the other hand PoA would be the only way of having not just a decentralised, but also a distributed consensus. As you might see, I, as the developer and visionary, definitely vote for DPoS, because this is much better for the future of the network. Unless someone has a better solution, I will vote for DPoS, but I can also see why other people would vote for the only way of having a distributed consensus that's resistant against orphans. Thanks DPos sounds a little too centralized, but I do understand the selected validators are needed to ensure the network is secure when using super fast block times. Would it be possible to for the network to randomly select which nodes are validators periodically, for a determined number of blocks, then repeat? Such nodes would need to qualify in some way to validate, ( time online, balance, connectivity etc). Is the proof of work in your version of POA really needed? In pure POS currencies you would need 51% of the coins to attack the network, why would you want to attack something you have a 51% stake in? This version of POA sounds a little too complicated. Can bullions POS algorithm not be used and tweaked to how you need it? I like what was done with it, and it works really well. |
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Could DPos and POA be briefly explained so I know what I'm voting for?
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The upper number of coins is not important. Just that the last 2 digits are 100th of a full unit, like most currencies.
100 x mXYX = 1XYZ
Not like bitcoin which is:
10000000 x 1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin
For example bitcoin is 000000.00000000
My proposal is 000000000.00
The last two digits being a 100th of an Aptum
I dont understand. mXYZ is milli-XYZ -> thousandths. I know what you mean by "using two digets - not three - not none - two". The issue is that the emission in atomic units is set right now. So we emit one million atomic units, and the question is - where to put the digets. If you want to have two digets, we could either use the same design as before, and emit 10k coins - or we reduce it to 1k. Reducing it to 1k would make us use a more beautiful number and have 10x smaller emission. Staying at 10k would have an emission of 22 billion whole coins per year. Ok then cXYZ I'm not clever enough to comment on the emissions, but if I had the choice, I wouldn't want them to be pig ugly Perfect! So you would recommend an emission of 1000 coins per block and the usage of two digets if I understand correctly? My proposal would be the same thing, but three digets, to allow for higher accuracy (if needed). Yes, 1000 sounds good. If it is possible to use 2 digits I'd go for that, as most are familiar with using currencies like this. I'm unsure if there are any other cryptos that only use 2 decimals out there? Maybe Aptum would be the first.
I've just read the whitepaper. Very interesting and exciting proposal |
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The upper number of coins is not important. Just that the last 2 digits are 100th of a full unit, like most currencies.
100 x mXYX = 1XYZ
Not like bitcoin which is:
10000000 x 1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin
For example bitcoin is 000000.00000000
My proposal is 000000000.00
The last two digits being a 100th of an Aptum
I dont understand. mXYZ is milli-XYZ -> thousandths. I know what you mean by "using two digets - not three - not none - two". The issue is that the emission in atomic units is set right now. So we emit one million atomic units, and the question is - where to put the digets. If you want to have two digets, we could either use the same design as before, and emit 10k coins - or we reduce it to 1k. Reducing it to 1k would make us use a more beautiful number and have 10x smaller emission. Staying at 10k would have an emission of 22 billion whole coins per year. Ok then cXYZ I'm not clever enough to comment on the emissions, but if I had the choice, I wouldn't want them to be pig ugly |
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The upper number of coins is not important. Just that the last 2 digits are 100th of a full unit, like most currencies. 100 x mXYX = 1XYZ Not like bitcoin which is: 10000000 x 1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin For example bitcoin is 000000.00000000 My proposal is 000000000.00 The last two digits being a 100th of an Aptum
Could you make a currency with a large supply but with only 2 decimal places? For example, 00000000000.00
I really like that idea Killiz. Everyone is used to using 2 decimal places. Exactly! Nobody wants to use fractions of a penny to buy things. No matter how much that penny can buy |
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Could you make a currency with a large supply but with only 2 decimal places? For example, 00000000000.00
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18.4 billion supply of mono?
1:1 exchange for CBX?
What's the supply of Aptum?
Since MONO is still in the ICO phase, that is not the case. 8.2 million MMONO have been premined and are being sold in an ICO, 1.2% are given to an anonymous solidity developer and MONO worth of 50USD have been sold. By looking at the USD price, we can assure everyone having a fair exchange rate - so it doesn't matter what community come from. The supply of Aptum is currently being discussed, but it will be fundamentally larger than the supply of bullion. This is done to create a currency instead of an asset. An anonymous user called "L" had a great explanation of it in the bullion telegram channel, which can be joined here: https://t.me/joinchat/FkBLVEimXQscVn1cetdd4gThanks. I read the explanation by 'L' and it makes sense. I will be following developments. Good luck! |
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