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1  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 15, 2023, 06:59:28 AM
Meh. They haven't exchanged merits since 2018, almost 5 years ago. Only one of the accounts is in a signature campaign. In general its not really a good idea to tag users retroactively for this kind of thing, especially since it happened so long ago.
...

I like this approach, is there an option to remove negative reviews from a few years ago?

Actually, why are you defending this scammer Haunebu and 3kpk3?

Will you defend all cheaters in this same way?

Is it really that you don't want to admit I'm right because I have a red tag associated with 1xbit? Wouldn't it be nice to prove me right, huh?

Now think about what it would look like if I did it with a green account?! Would you be on other side?


2  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 15, 2023, 06:29:10 AM
Congratulations! You just justified every merit scam!  Grin
Do you think fraud is only about money? I have provided evidence of cheating. Are you defending someone who deliberately wanted to cheat the community?
There's no such merit scam. I wouldn't say merit exchange with alt accounts is cheat the community, but it's unethical. Since @theymos already pointed out leaving negative feedback because of merit exchange isn't appropriate, then we need to deal with it.

What I don't understand is why no one give neutral feedback to both @Haunebu and @3kpk3 accounts? this can be a reference whenever a campaign manager want to accept them to be in the campaign.

However I checked the feedback you leaved on their accounts, do you think you're correct by leaving negative feedback? I will tag your account with neutral feedback.

Haunebu   2023-08-14   Reference   Merit system abuser
3kpk3   2023-08-14   Reference   Merit system abuser

If you give one person permission to do bad things, you either don't realize what you're judging or you don't know what you're doing.
3  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 15, 2023, 06:08:38 AM
...Merit system abuse!

Is it a scam or not? Say it straight and we'll all know what to do whit it

It's not.

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

If theymos says this, don't expect much from the DTs in this regard.

Congratulations! You just justified every merit scam!  Grin

I'll quote this one as it summarizes the latest exchanges of communication. Has someone suffered a damage or financial lost caused by the user you mentioned? Or, does the user you mentioned poses a risk of causing other user financial damage?

Do you think fraud is only about money? I have provided evidence of cheating. Are you defending someone who deliberately wanted to cheat the community?
4  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 15, 2023, 05:34:46 AM
...Merit system abuse!

Is it a scam or not? Say it straight and we'll all know what to do whit it

It's not.

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

If theymos says this, don't expect much from the DTs in this regard.

Congratulations! You just justified every merit scam!  Grin
5  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 15, 2023, 05:16:35 AM
Is the merit abuse scam something that DT members no longer pays attention to?

If it comes down to that alone, I don't think you're going to get more than a neutral tag. Another thing is that apart from the merit abuse it is seen that they are alts that have joined the same campaign or that have plagiarized, things like that, as it has happened in other occasions.

Theymos himself said that he was not going to give importance in merit issues to anything but selling merits.

Nobody talk here about plagiarism, campaign cheating or other things. Case is clear - Merit system abuse!

Is it a scam or not? Say it straight and we'll all know what to do whit it
6  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 15, 2023, 04:48:54 AM
[...]

As I wrote earlier, this is information that has been found by other users. I don't know how these two accounts managed to avoid the consequences of this scam. I'm guessing this is just an oversight.

I don't understand this part. Which scam is this? The merit abuse? Or did you find another evidences [that you're yet to present here on this thread] that they scammed someone?

At this point, I am presenting evidence that a fraud has occurred. Yes, merit abuse!
edited..



Is the merit abuse scam something that DT members no longer pays attention to?
7  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 15, 2023, 12:29:29 AM
I just have a few questions to ask you.

The proof you included in your post are there recent? Or the same with the ones that were used back then? If “Yes”, why did you choose to open a thread against him now in the reputation board? Because I just went through both of your post history and I found out that you had an issue because he called the casino (1xbit.com) you were promoting a scam which it really is.

I can see that this was reported in 2021 and at this time merit abusers were already being punished by neg tags but why was this case left? There might be a reason to it probably due to the time the merit exchange happened or something similar.

The fact that I drew attention to these two accounts is because they both behave in the same arrogant and aggressive manner.
I started a casual discussion about 1xBit and only from these two accounts I had been getting insulted. It seemed strange to me, so I used the Bitcointalk search engine and in couple of seconds I found this information.

As I wrote earlier, this is information that has been found by other users. I don't know how these two accounts managed to avoid the consequences of this scam. I'm guessing this is just an oversight.
Unless they're involved in selling merits, then i'm really not interested. It looks like they did send merits to each other(23 each) which some members may end up tagging them for. I can't see how long ago it was(more then 120 days for sure though).

I do think just because you got your feelings hurt for someone telling the truth about a scam company you wanted to represent doesn't mean you should go on a personal vendetta and try ruining them. Don't advertise for a scam company and you wouldn't have been tagged.


Hi yahoo, nice that you look in to it Wink

Let's start with this:

Quote
Unless they're involved in selling merits, then i'm really not interested.

He didn't have to sell anything, he just cheated by trading merits between his own accounts. It is confirmed, where you have doubts?

Edit: Even if my feelings were hurt, is it mean that his cheating have point to get no consequences?

8  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 14, 2023, 07:38:49 PM
I just have a few questions to ask you.

The proof you included in your post are there recent? Or the same with the ones that were used back then? If “Yes”, why did you choose to open a thread against him now in the reputation board? Because I just went through both of your post history and I found out that you had an issue because he called the casino (1xbit.com) you were promoting a scam which it really is.

I can see that this was reported in 2021 and at this time merit abusers were already being punished by neg tags but why was this case left? There might be a reason to it probably due to the time the merit exchange happened or something similar.

The fact that I drew attention to these two accounts is because they both behave in the same arrogant and aggressive manner.
I started a casual discussion about 1xBit and only from these two accounts I had been getting insulted. It seemed strange to me, so I used the Bitcointalk search engine and in couple of seconds I found this information.

As I wrote earlier, this is information that has been found by other users. I don't know how these two accounts managed to avoid the consequences of this scam. I'm guessing this is just an oversight.
9  Economy / Reputation / Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 14, 2023, 05:37:34 PM

I would like to present evidence that the owner of the Haunebu and 3kpk3 accounts was cheating by trading Merits between his own accounts.

Community will judge you
Try harder!..

It seems that this user believes that he can cheat and will not face any consequences. So I decided to try harder and write this post.

Here is evidence of his cheating:

..It's pretty evident that Haunebu is my alt-account..

Accounts connected by decodx - Only link, because thread is locked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg56144066#msg56144066
Accounts connected by Piggy - Only link, because thread is locked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg41613620#msg41613620

Direct connection in trading merits between Haunebu and 3kpk3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.msg41673580#msg41673580



I didn't make deep research, just collected information from other users research.

One thing I can add is that until September 2017, the person behind Haunebu account wrote only in fluent German and was well educated technically, after that date only English spam began.

10  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 14, 2023, 02:00:11 PM
This @Pipshunter dude popped out of nowhere in this thread recently and is on some sort of mission to protect this trash site by spamming like crazy. He is probably an alt-account of a previous 1xbit participant(Erdogan etc).

I pity this person since all of his efforts to try and help this site are completely pointless for obvious reasons.

My point is that you should be wary of such people who are out to manipulate information.

If someone wants to discuss, so let's do it in a polite way and using specifics information and facts.

Peace and love  Grin
Is that all you could come up with shill? Weak! It's pretty evident that Haunebu is my alt-account and I wasn't really secretive about it. Also, a shill like you who sold his soul for money isn't in a position to judge anyone.

I just presented solid evidence that you are a cheater



More:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg56144066#msg56144066
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg56144759#msg56144759
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.msg41673580#msg41673580

Community will judge you
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 14, 2023, 11:14:31 AM
All books may be doing selective scams. I don't want to shill for 1xbit but are there complaints in the last two years? The ones above are 2021 or above. I'm not going to play there since it's not worth the chance but all these complaints are old.

The examples quoted above are just examples of positively resolved complaints.
There have been complaints over the past two years, but most of them were reports with no evidence, or someone posted the same story dozens of times over the several months, which gave the impression that there were many more complaints than real number.

This year there were only a few, but the vast majority were without evidence. In recent weeks, there are none at all.
Lack of evidence to show doesn't eliminate the accuracy or authenticity of the complaints, because most of the complainants state a similar reason why they lack the evidence to support their claims and that is blamed on the fact that their accounts were totally locked and they have no access to the accounts any more so there is no way for them to get evidence from the accounts since in no longer in they control.

And when they ask the 1xbit team to provide some evidence to support their own claims, some of the response we get from them clearly shows that the act was a deliberate one because 1xbit always deny the availability of those records from the player's accounts stating that it against their operational policy to make such history public

First of all, 1xBit never deny the availability of records.

Unfortunately, the lack of evidence eliminates the complaint as real and the reason is obvious.

As far as I know, most of complaints concerned live betting on table tennis, where the largest number of "abuse" occurs at Bookmakers, I don't think I need to explain this ... Unless you have some other reason in mind, then give it.

12  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 14, 2023, 02:11:48 AM
All books may be doing selective scams. I don't want to shill for 1xbit but are there complaints in the last two years? The ones above are 2021 or above. I'm not going to play there since it's not worth the chance but all these complaints are old.

The examples quoted above are just examples of positively resolved complaints.
There have been complaints over the past two years, but most of them were reports with no evidence, or someone posted the same story dozens of times over the several months, which gave the impression that there were many more complaints than real number.

This year there were only a few, but the vast majority without evidence. In recent weeks, there are none at all.
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 13, 2023, 11:38:10 PM
Edited removed
Off a truth what point are you trying to make mate, its clearly and obvious that 1xbit team are selectively scamming their players and if you take forensic measures to investigate their acclaimed resolved cases you still fine out that many of those accounts were not fully refunded some their winnig taken away and left with only deposits.

I have being following up with this case for some time now, and bet you don't have any point to make that can justify 1xbit multiple scam actions here mate.

We will probably never know the truth, because as I wrote earlier:

..people who feel cheated in most cases give a version that shows them in the best possible light and often conceal details that may prove to their disadvantage. It is normal for casinos not to provide strict anti-fraud procedures so as not to help them bypass these security measures in the future.

If you reject spam and posts with no evidence, I think that there would be relatively few contentious situations compared to the number of 1xBit users.
After all, we can all see that now there are no complaints at all, and 1xBit is still doing great.

Actually, that's all I'm talking about Smiley
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 13, 2023, 11:16:29 PM




I know what a selective scam is. Do your best and give examples so we can have a normal discussion because for now I feel like someone else here is shilling

3kpk3 aka Haunebu - Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg56144066#msg56144066

has been spamming this thread for several years and not even knowing basic information about 1xCorp

They did all that in the past. Can i name some of the domains under the 1XCorp N.V.?
1xstavka.ru
1xbit.com
1xbet.com
1xslots.com
1xbetworld
bet1-x
1xbn
1xbet85

Source


and so many more others, I haven't even touched on the likes of melbet, 888STARZ, Cleobet ,Pnxbet, Kawbet
1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58071653#msg58071653
Holy moly! That's a lot. Never knew about some of these sites. This just goes to show how much money and resources they have access to courtesy of their parent site(1xbet).

Also, some of their sites are russian which further proves that most or all of them are operating out of Russia.

Here's proof he cheated with Merits:




I wonder why he manipulates information like that? After all, there is information in all sources that 1xCorp is a company registered in Cyprus. Was it intentional or maybe he is such ignorant that for so many years of spaming this thread he had not bothered to check even such basic information?

Or maybe it's someone else? Until September 2017, the person behind Haunebu account wrote very well in German and was well educated technically, then only English spam began.

My point is that you should be wary of such people who are out to manipulate information.

If someone wants to discuss, so let's do it in a polite way and using specifics information and facts.

Peace and love  Grin
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 13, 2023, 01:01:18 PM
Can a balance of several hundred dollars be called huge?
I haven't seen a single claim over $1,000.
Logically, it would be much easier to block one account with $20k or even $50k than to block dozens of accounts with several hundred dollars and create an avalanche of accussations. Simple logic
Didn't have the patience to read your wall of text except for this last part which cracked me up. Did you even bother doing your research before posting these absurd statements shill? I doubt it.

Go check their negative trust ratings carefully and you will understand(If you have a brain) that several victims were scammed of thousands of bucks.

It's a pity that you don't want to read it or check it out.

Yes, I know there have been a few cases involving larger sums of money, but that was a few years ago and if you had done your research you would have compared them to the list of cases solved:

We have combined issues posted by bitcointalk users so you can see the progress and decide everything for yourself.

Fully restored accounts:
1) Tim1996, 1 ETH
2) h4ns, 4,3 BTC
3) Aeshman, 10 mBTC
4) 2kevin2, sum not mentioned
5) MrBrightside1, 7,4 BTC

Refund cases:
1) sezulus, 59 mBTC
2) Fabi86000, 20 ETH
3) jennyoller, 40 mBTC
4) Holen88, 100 mBTC
5) Blogab, 63 mBTC (+hashes)
6) bestneon8, sum not mentioned
7) zekiman, sum not mentioned
8') elninnohameni, 200 mBTC
9) sammichael, sum not mentioned
10) dammlyn, 4,6 LTC
11) aksez, sum not mentioned
12) haluktr, 68 mBTC
13) merceniumeras, sum not mentioned
14) bleedrulez, 20 mBTC
15) zackhirarmador, 154 mBTC
16) kullerimer, sum not mentioned
17) manul-ayn, 133 mBTC
18) polinagil, $460 usd

Post with a few more arguments

FAQ
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 12, 2023, 09:13:32 PM
I wonder which of you will dig up the last complaint here on Bitcointalk..  Grin Grin
There could be another reason dumdum. They probably lost a ton of gamblers thanks to all the negative criticism that piled up over the years which is why there are very few victims translating to fewer complaints.

Then find me a complaint from a user of this forum higher than Newbie. All that were here were from people who created accounts only to file a complaint, because they could not contact support in any other way (at least that's what they said). Mostly without providing any evidence that they have an account on 1xBit at all. A bit strange, no?

Is it really that people who complain here do not post evidence? well, let's just look at this case, obviously there are dozens of cases like this in this thread alone, but as you yourself said that they don't post evidence and that it's strange, let's see if this is really true, it may be that I and many others are not seeing well and you and other defenders of this casino are seeing correctly, well first I want you to see this post:

hi 1xbit_official

can you solve my problem? Are you a real 1xbit official? Or is @1xbit1.com real?

1xbit closed my account.

id number:320223807

Hello nerdynaf,

Your request is in progress, I will try to get back with an answer as soon as possible.

Sincerely,
1xBit team
hello  @1xbit_official

any answer?

what are you seeing? Are you seeing a false claim, a lie, the guy doesn't have an account at the casino and he's lying? really? And whose account responded to the guy's complaint? let me ask you: @1xbit_official is not the official representative of this casino? well i see he is the casino representative here on the forum. so what do you think? Is he or is he not the casino representative on this forum? and after his answer, we have the following:

A little update here

 

nerdynaf, you should have received a reply from the security team already, please check your email.



Although I deposited several times more money than I withdrew, you did not refund my principal amount.

The security team's answer;

"Good Day. We want to inform you, that our company decided to stop any collaboration with you (closing your account).
The decision was made after a careful investigation of the situation by our security service. The decision is based on a violation of the Terms and Conditions"

look at the part where it says the company says they have decided to stop any collaboration with @nerdynaf and will close his account, and then it says the security team did a thorough investigation and found that @nerdynaf violated the casino TOS . well, look at all the complaints that are in this thread and see why people are complaining, and ask yourself: do you really think that everyone is lying? if you really think that everyone is lying then you can recommend this casino to your friends and also you can be playing in this casino, after many months come post your account statistics, about deposit, withdrawals and your bet and all your friends, with that you would already be showing us that you play at the casino and had no problem

First of all, I was responding to the statement that 1xBit lost many gamblers due to bad opinions on the forum - in my opinion, this did not affect the break in the campaign, because for years complaints were made by people from outside Bitcointalk. And I think briefly but logically I described it in the previous post.

Secondly, I wrote that most did not provide evidence. I would certainly find a few more examples with evidence that these people had an account there. It's just that the vast majority are without evidence, and even more of them are just repeated spam from one or more accounts of one or more people - and there are many such examples.

Third, 1xbit_official obviously represents 1xBit on this forum, but Bitcointalk has never been the official way to resolve contentious issues. 1xbit_official, which has been repeated many times, only forwarded cases reported on Bitcointalk for consideration in the security department. As for the things you mentioned, unfortunately I don't see any evidence that 1xbit did anything wrong. You just provided text that could be written by anyone, and the account number made up or copied. I am not here to decide whether this is a real report or not, everyone should judge for themselves.

Fourthly, remember that people who feel cheated in most cases give a version that shows them in the best possible light and often conceal details that may prove to their disadvantage. It is normal for casinos not to provide strict anti-fraud procedures so as not to help them bypass these security measures in the future.

Besides, looking at the numbers - 1xBit has hundreds of thousands of users visits, and here there are single complaints ... in recent weeks, even none...

My statement looks like I'm defending 1xBit, but I'm simply responding to the allegations with facts and truth. I try to be objective, because I have the impression that the discussion here is very one-sided and does not contain facts. I'm also not going to spend hours looking for examples and explaining things. However, I believe that if someone makes accusations, they should base them on concrete facts, not on guesses and opinions of other people.

Personally, I think a lot of 1xCORP's activities are shady, but since such huge organizations as La Liga, Serie A, the entire African football federation and many others cooperate with them, I believe that they have an army of lawyers and researchers who do their work professionally and they have much better information than an anonymous user of this forum and they work with 1xCorp all the time. I'm sure there's something on it, but I trust professionals more than anonymous users here.

Peace and love  Grin



EDIT:

Now look at these two statements:

I don't think that they will ever change because they enjoy doing shady things like that and scamming others is their hobby or we can say their nature. If they somehow transfer the management in the hands of honest people then things may be a little different, but I'm pretty sure that they are not going to do anything like that. They don't really care even if everyone creates scam accusations against them because they have already scammed a lot of people and if now their license get cancelled they will still be okay with that. Those scammers might be running so many other sites as well, and that's why if one of their sites went down, it won't impact their business that much. I don't know how can they sleep while doing these type of scams with most people.

Of course, this is nonsense, because the license is still valid in Curacao, but this person did not even want to check it, he just writes because this version suits him

Statement below:

I guess 1xbit is already used to that act of scamming their customer through their shady policies that grant that so called security team the power to ban selective players account who have huge balance on them, i guess instead of expecting the to exchange the best we can do in this situation is to continue to raise alarm and keep other informed about the shady dealings.

No reputable members from this forum will ever support what the 1xbits team are doing and at that, the casino has a damaged reputation here in the forum.

Can a balance of several hundred dollars be called huge?
I haven't seen a single claim over $1,000.
Logically, it would be much easier to block one account with $20k or even $50k than to block dozens of accounts with several hundred dollars and create an avalanche of accussations. Simple logic

17  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 12, 2023, 03:13:52 PM
I wonder which of you will dig up the last complaint here on Bitcointalk..  Grin Grin
There could be another reason dumdum. They probably lost a ton of gamblers thanks to all the negative criticism that piled up over the years which is why there are very few victims translating to fewer complaints.

Then find me a complaint from a user of this forum higher than Newbie. All that were here were from people who created accounts only to file a complaint, because they could not contact support in any other way (at least that's what they said). Mostly without providing any evidence that they have an account on 1xBit at all. A bit strange, no?
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 11, 2023, 10:41:33 PM
You have written several pages of posts about scam here. 1xBit is doing great and has hundreds of thousands of players every month. (everyone can check it on independent portals, just don't forget about a dozen of mirrors, such as 1xbit1, 1x-bit etc..)
I wonder which of you will dig up the last complaint here on Bitcointalk..  Grin Grin
19  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 10, 2023, 08:19:31 PM
Do you really think that if 1xCORP wanted to rebrand 1xBit you would know about it?!?

Anyway, why would they do that when they already have dozens of casinos?!?

You are only embarrassing yourself by posting such nonsense here..
A former 1xbit shill who got paid to advertise a scam... Not surprised  Grin
You must be boiling inside, knowing that the 1xbit scam advertising failed in the forum. You are literary fucked!


Oh yes! I'm so excited that 1xBit in any moment will be back with an updated signature campaign! I will earn well as always with 1xBit, and you all will have a pain in the ass for the next years  Grin Grin Grin
20  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: August 10, 2023, 03:32:45 PM
Do you really think that if 1xCORP wanted to rebrand 1xBit you would know about it?!?

Anyway, why would they do that when they already have dozens of casinos?!?

You are only embarrassing yourself by posting such nonsense here..
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