So the Low of the Bear was around 59.89k

and it is over 20% higher today.  71,868 would be a 20% jump

So it this a new bull run finally killing off the evil 4 year cycle freaks

or is it simply a bull trap allowing evil four year cycle people to win out.

I votes yes the bull is back baby!







please note four year cycle freaks are not evil that was an attempt at humor

So if you buy this model from Apple Store it is 1799 plus sales tax
If you buy this model From Apple Store with Veterans Discount it is 1619 Plus sales tax
If you buy this model From Apple Store Refurbished Section with a veterans Discount it is

1376 plus in my case 91.16 sales tax

So I paid 1467.16

It is new and sealed. Yeah if you are an Apple guy you know Apple refurbished are new units and hard to get as they sell out fast.

I will take $1500 in BTC or Doge Or LTC    I self escrow as I am considered trustworthy

It is the M4 model

32gb ram
2tb ssd
1 gig ethernet
m4 10 core cpu
10 core gpu
16 core neural

So here we will only argue for bitcoin as an asset. Sorry for error in title

you must not give reasons against bitcoin. only for bitcoin value

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and of course some posts here as some may want to do it their way
if you give any reasons bitcoin I will delete your post. but a copy will by placed in the


This is the thread about bitcoin holding deletions from the other two threads.  

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5575560.new#new
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basically

I would love to get 50 to 100 reasons btc is a great asset here.





and 50 to 100 reasons btc sucks so bad it is worthless:  here.

⇾ I propose that Bitcoin is a worthless asset. Please show why I am correct.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5575559.msg66443870#msg66443870

I am certain enough that many people on the internet will not do what I asked for in threads about the value of bitcoin and the worthlessness of bitcoin.

so this will hold the people's posts that either failed or refused to follow directions.

Very simple My proposal is Bitcoin is worthless.

This thread is for arguments  against the value of Bitcoin.

Any thing in favor of BTC get deleted and placed in a third thread.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/article/is-trump-about-to-go-to-war-with-iran-204654148.html


Most would think he will certainly attack Iran ,but i think we could be surprised by a lack of attack.

[note if you do a fairly small image I will give a merit]

I will begin this subject to approval from bullpen2024bro

Approval was given via pm!
 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251894.msg54523960#msg54523960

Note please try to use smaller images.

So thread works well on lessor tablets pcs and phones.

note if you do a fairly small image I will give a merit

I wont be updating this thread anymore. Someone reputable please create a new one. I will lock it in a few days.

[this is me:So as much as 20.3% of Americans are on psych medsor 263,500,000x0.203=53,490,50053.49 million people in the USA are on Psych meds and we all know more people are refusing treatment so possibly 60 to 70 million people have problems with their minds in America.My conclusion isThis is why bitcointalk suffers from poor posting" As much as 25% of the posters suffer from mental illness and maybe only 20% ofthe 25% are being treated.]

My vote was yes.
this idea was because of this thread and post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5574214.msg66400606#msg66400606


So I made a poll on a post using AI and saying it is AI.

Is this a proper use of AI?

I self modded this thread.


First off this is from another thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5574214.msg66400606#msg66400606

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All of the below is AI from google

"AI Overview
As of late 2023, approximately 263.5 million people in the United States are aged 18 and older. This adult population represents about 78% of the total U.S. population, which was estimated to be around 336.8 million during that time. The number of adults has grown significantly from 258.3 million in 2020.
Adult Population (18+): ~263.5 million (2023)
Total Population: ~336.8 million (2023)
Demographic Detail: The adult population (18–64) was roughly 202.7 million in early 2025, with an additional 55.9 million aged 65 and over. "

this is google search:

"Mental Health Treatment Among Adults: United States, 2020

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention | CDC (.gov)
https://www.cdc.gov › nchs › products › databriefs
by EP Terlizzi · Cited by 233 — In 2020, 20.3% of U.S. adults received any mental health treatment in the past 12 months, including 16.5% who had taken prescription medication for their mental ...Read more"




this is me:

So as much as 20.3% of Americans are on psych meds

or 263,500,000x0.203=53,490,500

53.49 million people in the USA are on Psych meds and we all know more people are refusing treatment so possibly 60 to 70 million people have problems with their minds in America.

My conclusion is

This is why bitcointalk suffers from poor posting" As much as 25% of the posters suffer from mental illness and maybe only 20% of

the 25% are being treated.

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This kidnapping could mean a call to be able to freeze BTC. It certainly will damage BTC if the ranson is paid and if the kidnappers are never caught.

It will also likely hurt monero and mixers if the btc get vanished and cleaned.

So it will hurt BTC for sure , but I do not know if the kidnappers just want BTC or if there is no kidnapping and it is a plot to hurt crypto.

My guess is the kidnapping happened and they think they can clean the BTC.

I voted the world will outlast Trump so maybe BTC does too.

As much as I like and believe in BTC the world wide effect of Trump seems to be on a lot more than just BTC.

So far the world has always outlasted wild political characters so I am rooting for the world and BTC to make it past Trump

So down the road block rewards get too small. Miners could abandon BTC  making a lark drop in value happen


I made this post with an idea on how to restructure the blockchain. In say 2068

It just blows my mind how some people have nothing better to do and just donate to Satoshi. I mean, sure, do whatever you want, and "send your message" or whatever, but Satoshi is a dead person for the Internet. He's likely gone from this world, and almost certainly not going to spend from the genesis address.

In fact, if I ever read that coins have been spent from the genesis address, my immediate reaction would be that quantum computers are real and running.

hmm here is an idea.

down the road  say 2056 block rewards will suck for miners.

2028.  1.56250000
2032   0.78125000
2036   0.39062500
2040   0.19531250
2044   0.09765625
2048   0.04882812   -----    there are rounding issues not sure how they get handled
2052.  0.02441406
2056   0.01220703         
2060   0.00610352
2064   0.00305176
2068   0.00152588 ------- but this is close enough to the block size and in a day that is  0.21972654

 and in a year that is  80.2 coins .

So right now the genesis block with over 100 coins could reseed rewards for all of 2069 and boost block reward from

0.00152 to 0.00304

if a coin was worth 10 million 0.00304 x 10,000,000=30,400  so still a fail as blocks will need to be over 30,000

so coins need to be 100 million. giving 300,000 dollar blocks

But I do see an idea here. Encourage a future reboot of btc in 2068 or so using genesis block coins to do it.

make the chain do 4 blocks an hour not 6. which means six year halving time.

If we could get enough funds into the genesis block it is fully working and doable plan.

So I see issues of rewards being too small in the future. If the genesis was to get some donation money while coins are under 100k it could allow a plan to keep the chain running well past 2068

I will tweak this more but here is a poll and please give ideas.

 I have two ebay listings

https://www.ebay.com/itm/168069188285          this is 1999.99 on ebay I will sell lower to you

https://www.ebay.com/itm/157589318869            this is 500.99 on ebay I will sell lower to you


I am willing to sell here for BTC LTC Doge at lower then the ebay prices.

only selling to USA people. will ship USPS with insurance and signature.

this is my poll from altcointalks

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=337417.msg1978041#msg1978041

I voted Trump is a force of chaos SO all prices will be rocked.

Copper Silver Gold all of Crypto Etc


Now the interesting thing is will he follow up and grab another leader from another country in less then a month or 2.

 


waiting for a bit to open this  thread.


link to 2025 thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5523779.0

He repeatly posts on the mining pool.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5527505.msg66231176#msg66231176

He accuses braiins of stealing his solo  block.

It is very likely no block was stolen.

He has been directed to post in scam and reputation sections not mining.

I red tagged him.

I told him where to post and he did  post there  months ago.

He repeatedly  does this.

And it clogs the visuals  of mining.

I also reported multiple posts which were deleted.

So he has a pair of distrust
The mod has deleted quite a few of his posts. That I reported.

But no one should be allowed to do  what he is doing.

Let's regulate account sales.

Simple you put an account up for sale on the one and only thread it is allowed for.

And the sale is marked on the thread and the profile.


Theymos sold 12/31/2025

Keep the mark for 5 years or 10 years.

Note I got the idea here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5568664.msg66200613#msg66200613

Note it  is my idea as far as I can tell.

If the idea has a thread let's open that thread and talk about it.

Think about this i worked at my account to be good for over 13 years.

Why should I be able to sell it with a permanent sold mark.

I made the account valuable.

Now I have zero need or desire to sell it.

Or sell an alt but we do allow sold accounts.

If the account is marked with a sale date many  issues are solved.

SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER.

[And opened this one:]

Closed this listing

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5567229.0

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And opened this one:

To reflect  promised Monday the 15th price change

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I self moderated this new listing below:

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Note  I will only do business on bitcointalk.org for this sale



BTC
DOGE
LTC
SOLANA
ETH

No PayPal Zelle Venmo

must be a crypto from list above

some photos.

A one board and a two board t21 in a cold garage that is attached to my house but doe not have heat in it.

It got cold in NJ today around 20f or -6c

the two units are a tiny bit under clocked and running in a cool garage they are said to be 19 watt gear but they do around 16.6 watts a th quite nice

164-165th doing around 2730 watts

[USA ONLY.]

Crucial X10 2TB Portable SSD, Up to 2,100MB/s, USB 3.2 USB-C, External Solid State Drive, Compatible with Windows, Mac & Android, Durable Storage for Games, Photos & Files, Blue - CT2000X10SSD9-02


https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Portable-External-Compatible-Windows/dp/B0F332MNX7/ref=sr_1_4?
https://www.newegg.com/crucial-x10-2tb-usb-3-2-gen-2x2/p/N82E16820156439
https://www.crucial.com/ssd/x10/ct2000x10ssd9


I have one that newegg sent me to review.

It is new and never opened but I need to open it take a few photo run some tests and do a review .

I am free to sell it after the review. I will link the Newegg review.

I would likely run a few ssd tests on it maybe put 100gb of reads and write 4-6 hours of test.

I will pack with box in pictures and of course give a good price.

USA ONLY.  I can use a small usps.com box to ship it.

price new is 209 to 239

mine is basically new but I will do 140 which includes the shipping.

Doge
BTC
LTC
Solana
ETH

all work

no paypal
no Zelle
no Venmo

must be coins

I self escrow I have been around a bit.

I have 5000 doge would like to trade for btc.

I have Been around here for over a decade.

So let me know if you are willing to send btc first and I will send back doge after 2 confirms.


Since prices move a lot we can decide what rate is when we do the deal,

5000 doge is close to 0.0077 btc at the moment