Okay I am deleting old posts

[I will keep 2 of the 10 shares and sell the other 8 shares. Since it is in hand and it is mining as i type If only one share or two shares sell that works for me. I would just keep whatever does not sell. (I am giving bit minter a 24 hour run since Btcguild is steady but boring)]

I have been convinced to cancel

So each share is 72gh.

 machines are in hand mining as i type. give me a day to figure out prices.

I will run these on btcguild

 At 1 price pays all of .009 per gh 72gh shares are   .009 x 72 =   .648 btc

while it seems to be a higher price then buying your own ant miner.

 you get  to use 2x fractal design newton r-3 1000 watt psu's
 you get to use 2 eaton ups that allow for 45 minutes run time.
 you get  to use  a trend net 16 port gigabyte switch
  all power  costs are included. power is about 1.5 kwatt  or 25 cents per hour that is about 6 usd a day.  
180 usd a month. 360 usd for 2 months.


I think I will pay every 10 days.  on the 30th day we will consider sale on ebay. on the 60th day we will consider it again. the ebay sales will be done on my ebay account.  and I will be transparent to my costs.  i.e. I have a really good ebay record so my fees are a bit less. this is my ebay account link

http://www.ebay.com/usr/philipma1957

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=philipma1957&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2050430.m2531.l4585

I will keep 2 of the 10 shares and sell the other  8 shares. Since it is in hand and it is mining as i type If only one share or two shares sell that works for me.  I would just keep whatever does not sell.

(I am giving bit minter a 24 hour run since Btcguild is steady but boring)

Since Feb 28th the following
1)Sushi-review sent a doa s-1 still waiting for replacement lost 4 days hash so far
2)Storm delay on iluvpcs u-1 sticks a 20 stick shipment delayed for 1 or more days
3)Zoomhash has delayed my shipment of 1 5 chip hash machine at least a day.

My old delays BFL the king or should i say God of delay 49gh in the cloud mining which was a pair of jalapeño waiting since Jan of 2013

A group buy round 1 from hash fast since aug 2013

lastly round 17 from dz coop 5 share will be delayed to may of 2014.


The amazing is with all these delays I am still ahead fiat.  but I am really fucking tired of it all.
Oh I am sending off a btc on a group buy of more u-1's So I guess I just like waiting.

I am done here for now.

[New march 9th direct from bob. and he is the one paying the refunds]

I dragged this thread back to life. Lets try to make a full list of those not paid or refunded in any way.
please read new post on this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=468027.msg10105039#msg10105039

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New  march 9th    direct from bob.  and  he is the one paying the  refunds

  "I should be done with most of the refunds... its been a mess.

Going to make it easyer from here on out (Phil please add this to the OP so people stop asking me the same questions)

Send an email to: support@minersource.net

Include:
Forum Name
Order Number(s)
# of Shares
Refund Address
Original TXID of payment

If any part of this is missing in the email, I will not be able to process the refund.
Any email sent tonight will be taken care of by midnight mountain time. "






Please do the above as of march 9th




 No hating.  No complaints.  This is an effort to be accurate no more no less.

  Thank you for giving info. Thank you for being polite.  I also want to mention the early shipping date of Feb 24 is still 5 days off. So the issued refunds so far have all came before that date.  If the gear would have shipped on the 24th of feb  It would have setup around the 1st of March.

I also want to mention I left 5 shares in So it could be why my other  7 were refunded rather quickly.



Okay no one  that received a refund is reporting this info.

I understand why people with no refund yet will report.  (they want the refund)

I will go back through the   17 thread as I know at least 5 people said they got a refund.

Note:
I was pm'd by thomas  

below is the whole pm:

Hey Philip

Can you please add this and a link to this in your post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=335145.msg5006710#msg5006710

Quote from: bobsag3 on February 07, 2014, 10:38:44 PM
Converting to another type of hardware is not really an option.

I will be able to start processing refunds on tuesday, please PM me (bobsag3) with your order on the DZ site, number of shares, meathod of payment, how you would like to be repaid, and payment address. I will only be able to process shares by the full machine IE every 50 shares, and the refund may take up to a week and a half (should be same day but we get swamped with other things). Also, unfortunately the refund fee will still be charged.

I hope this is good enough for now, but do know if you refund you will not be aloud to buy back in.
Thanks for your patience.

--Thomas






I had 12 shares I asked for a 7 share refund on the 7th of feb I got a 7 share refund on  feb 11th.


so name : philipma1957

refund shares : 7

date asked :  feb 7

date received : feb 11    ______________                 if you did not get it put waiting.

[SOLD]

SOLD

Okay I have 2 of these. They arrive at my house today. I ordered them from this site.


http://www.rakuten.com/prod/xfx-radeon-r9-290-graphic-card-980-mhz-core-4-gb-ddr5-sdram-pci/261075483.html  


 and I got a little bit better price then 599.99 + 5.70 to ship total of 605.69 each.    That would be 1211.38 for the 2.


 I paid 200 usd less 1011.38   for the 2  

 So I can sell them for 555.69 and 14.31 to ship or 570 each.   My profit would be about 50 a card


 I am in New Jersey I can ship them  asap .

 Either  fri. sat. or mon.  

  I won't take payment until fedex gives them to me and fedex is saying they are due today but with the snow maybe they don't come today.

Pm me for details  BTC only based on coinbase price. I have a bit of flex on the price.


Why am I selling at close to break even.

I am out of power in my garage. I am running 7 gpu's and a pair of antminer s-1's plus a lot of ant, fury sticks .  

I am pulling down about 3000 watts on 3 circuits and these would push me close to 3800 watts.  

I under estimated the power draw on the gpus as I mined a lot with them for btc not for ltc.

So when I converted to ltc  it uses more juice.

I can run 7 not 10 gpus.


edit  Note : the two I am selling are New in box and have never been used.
I have real paperwork on them. I have 40 days to return them
  
 Rather then send them back I will sell these two cheaper then anyone and make a little coin profit.

I won't take payment till I get them so bookmark and check back in about 6 hours.

they came in here is a photo




edit:
Amazon contacted and put this Asus below  off  until march3rd

I also have this coming to my home


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HWQUI02/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1  


I paid a lot less then the 669 on amazon  Not sure when this comes but I can sell it for  about 570.

[These are new i.e. not tested or modded as of today.]

 I am usa based.  I will ship in a flat rate us post office box. to all 50 states.

These are new i.e.  not tested or modded as of today.

I have had 7 of these.  I use one sold four and still have

 these 2  both are new.

I do 1 mod  I add a few nylon washers as spacing to allow the atx power cable to fit better.

I have found 38 to 42 ports work better then trying all 49 ports. and in general a few ports are a bit loose and don't work
 
well. without bending them to fit tighter. Rather then really taxing the shit out of these I run 38 to 42 ports.

I have found using a 30 amp fuse is safer then the  stock 40 amp fuse. I will give you a 30 amp fuse.

I will give you a usb 2.0 cable

I have found that you can run a pair of 120mm fans off the atx power supply with a molex adapter thus getting more use

from the psu used to power the hub.  lay them on top of the sticks and blow the air up to the ceiling .

price is .16 btc for 1 hub   .30 btc for both hubs

I can ship them today.

I would also take LTC using cex.io as the conversion rate.  it is about 5.6 for 1 hub and about 10.2 for 2 hubs

send me a pm.  no escrow for small ticket items  like this and you pay up front
this is of a 122 stick setup it has 3 49 port hubs and 122 old school .333gh AM be's .

 that white screening is used with hot air food dehydrators works great




here is a shot of the nylon washer mod.
trust me you need to do this mod or the power cords don't fit well

I ended this due to lack of interest

[Also trying to have links for every round.]

 I am trying to make  full list.  WINNERS losers   general stats. No hating  just looking for accurate figures. Also trying to have links for every round.

    I will list the usd paid for a round and the usd collected and the usd paid back.  I realize lots of us want btc roi, but I have no way to tell when you purchased a share thus I do not know how much btc you spent.
  I spent 110 usd on 1 share of a round 17 when btc was more then 1000 usd. I spent 130 usd on another share of round 13 when btc was 700 usd. My btc for some of those round 17 shares was .2 btc for others .11 btc. I purchased 12 shares over 6 purchases and paid 6 different sets of btc prices. Yet round 17 has only 2 usd per share prices.


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R1  Hashfast  no gear late  a loss  so far of  1.55 btc a share  at the time about 150 usd.      I have 1 share. Multiple prices on r1-r4

R2 Hashfast   no  gear late  a loss so far  . I have no shares

R3 Hashfast   no gear late  a loss so far.  I have no shares

R4 Hashfast  no gear  a loss. I have no shares

I read  a lot of info on these rounds and pretty much very complicated to determine the price of a share as they prices bounce around a lot.  bottom line is Hashfast failed everyone so far. including all of us at dz coop

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=296199.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274055.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299171.0

New info
our loss for round 1 is 58 btc paid on the 18 of aug 2013 about 6 k on that day.  now a lot more 46k to 48k
 the loss for round 2 is 5k it was always done as usd then switched to baby jet and bumped to 6100 usd
the loss for round 3 is 6k
and the loss for round 4 is 6k

comes to over 24k and extra shares were purchased so closer to 27k usd in losses
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R5  KNC    this was 78 usd a share   for about 5.5gh A HUGE WIN IN USD   I have 10 shares

R6  KNC    this was 78 usd a share  for about 5.5gh A  HUGE WIN IN USD I have 9 shares



over 300 usd a share collected for 78 usd price per share

100 shares at 78 = 7800usd in for round 5
100 shares paid 412 = 41200 usd paid back for round 5
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=124

100 shares at 78 = 7800usd in for round 6
100 shares at 419 = 41900 usd paid back for round 6
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=135

round 5   plus 33000 usd
round 6   plus 34000 usd
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________
R7 Bitmine  no gear late  a loss so far I find an entry for 48.7 btc collected I do not have enough info to full flesh out round 7 or 8 still researching the info available.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308512.0
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Bitmine800GHs-Round7.png 53btc in oct 9 about 6625 usd

R8 Bitmine no gear late  a loss so far.    I did not buy into this

  As near as I can tell  there are 200 shares sold at 60 or 70 each about 13000 usd loss
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R9  Black Arrow  this was 123 usd a share  a win in usd

R10 Black Arrow this was 123 usd a share a win in usd

R11 Black Arrow this was 123 usd a share a win in usd

R12 Black Arrow this was 123 usd a share a win in usd

  cash in per share 123 usd cash out per share 286 usd

r9-r12 has been bunched together 400 shares that should hash at 3.3 gh.  the gear breaks a lot while dz coop has made efforts to keep our hash rate at the proper levels they have not  done so and are short over 16 btc across the 400 shares due to shortfall of hash rate promised.
 with all that this buy still made a usd profit.  but every share is about  .04 btc short   or about 32 bucks a share.  rough estimate but I am 95% sure it is close on the low end . at 32 usd a share.


400 shares at 123 = 49200 usd in 117,662 usd out    a very nice win in USD

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328996.0
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=302

I had 11 shares of r9-r12 I sold 6 of them I now have 5 shares.
_______________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________

________________________________________________________________
R13 cancelled with a refund   [A push]

R14 cancelled with a refund [a push]
I had no shares.
_______________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________
R15 KNC   has been hashing  it has some gear issues

R16 KNC   has been hashing  it also has some gear issues .  I missed this buy in I know the gear hash rate  not worked as well as it should but I do not know the exact numbers.  some help on this would be nice in replies.

it looks like 115 usd a share in and 121 usd a share out so far.

http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=1192
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368000.0
https://blockchain.info/address/1LQ4jvG2toLwxwhVv5m7Mwh1pCnbT7hoXt
200 shares
23000 usd paid in
24295 usd paid back     so this is a winning group

I was busy and missed this buy in 0 shares here.

_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________
R17 Black arrow   waiting  on time a push  usd price 110-130 usd for a share of 40gh.  I have 12 shares 480gh

_______________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________
R18 bitmine  70 usd a share still on time due in 10 days or so. About 10th to 15 gh a share.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=336828.0

I missed this buy in 0 shares.
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R19  what is this one can't find it?  Thanks to railzand  here is the answer  Neptune KNC price was 225-250 usd  on schedule for April

there where 2 machines 50 shares each  100 shares total

http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r19-2-knc-neptune
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R20 LTC rigs this was moved to alternate coins will research it some more   This is lost can't find it still looking for the thread.

http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r20x-ltc-ultra-power-rig-212-144-160khs-20-min-upsbatteries-dz-mc-exclusives
_______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________
R21 Bitmain Ant miner.. Mining as of today.  135 usd a share for about 7.2gh a share.

50 shares at 135 a share or 6750 usd in  718 usd back   seems a bit over price I need to check this better.

http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r21-bitmain-antminer-s1-1-gb-share-135-7-2ghs-dz-mc-exclusives
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=1491
_______________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________
R22 Bitmain ant miner. Mining as of today
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r22-bitmain-antminer-s1-1-gb-share-94-7-2ghs-dz-mc-exclusives
_______________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________
R23  future will start soon here is a link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=411877.0
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R24  future

R25 future

please feel free to  add info So I can make a clear listing

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384691.0    


1000 sticks = 66 btc    1 btc = 660usd at coinbase

https://coinbase.com/transactions

so 1000 sticks are 43560 usd    or 43.56 usd a stick

sold in a set of 2 on ebay  at 180- 220 a set  would be a nice profit.  this is a different venture then we have normally done.

  I do have a lot of experience selling sticks on ebay.


My account would allow me to sell a pair at 200 with about 10% fee or 20 and 6 to ship in a small flat rate box.  so 200 - 20 =180 -6 = 174 for 87.12. = 86.88 for a 1 pair sale. 500 pairs would mean a 43440 profit on 43560

  yeah  there would be some losses here and there a bad buyer a few dud sticks.    but that is a good markup.  

even if we had to go as low as 2 sticks for 160.00 you clear 138  usd for   87.12  or 50.88  for a 1 pair sale  this would be a  25440 profit on 43560

 Cex.io is really big. over 1000 th.   at .065 a gh Cex.io has a huge value crazy big.  1 th is 65 btc or 71,500 usd.   They have 1300 times that this comes to a paper value of 929,500,000.     If they fail  how big is the hit for BTC?  Now AM was huge and at 40% of the hash back in APRiL-May this year.  So this hugeness of cex.io may end up with simple shrinkage  like am did.    Any guesses or opinions  are welcome.

My decision is to remove older posts

Okay I ended this sale

KNC is starting pre sales of a 3th rig  the neptune.


I got this in my email this morning> I do not know the price I can not view it on the site ..  but we have purchased from them so we are allowed to buy this.  I think bob did the purchase.


KnCMiner Newsletter
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We have an exciting update for you all today, in 2014 we will be shipping our 20nm product called Neptune.
We are aware more now than ever, that the demand for our product is large with bitcoin prices rising to all-time highs. The lack of available companies in the market place who can actually design, produce and more importantly ship increases the demands for our products as we are the only company who has shipped a 28nm product. We will once again take the bitcoin mining hardware to the next level.
 
Our first offering at 20nm is called Neptune following the naming convention from our 28nm range. It will have the following basic specifications.
 

Minimum 3000GH/s of hashing speed that 3TH (Over 5 times the speed of our first Jupiter release)
   (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)
A 30% reduction in watts per GH,
Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014,
Bitcoins first ever 20nm miner bought to you form the company who shipped the first 28nm bitcoin miner,
Limited batch for registered customers only,
Existing customers only can buy at this price other batches will be released later to non-existing customers at a higher price.
These items will be on sale for two weeks at this price or until it has sold out.
Payment for this product is bitcoins and bank transfer only.
 
The product is now available for purchase in our shop, If you are a registered customer you can order and pay for it today. Here at https://www.kncminer.com/categories/miners
 
There is a limited supply at this introductory price as a reward to our existing customers who have been with us before.

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[gear has been sold and shipped to dentldirA second person paid for this gear I will either refund him or send him other gear]

gear has been sold and shipped to dentldir

A second person paid for this gear I will either refund him or send him other gear

I refunded the second buyer

Okay a shorted 49 port hub.
 7  AM dead sticks and a dead psu.

  for dirt cheap usa shipping only

.131 btc gets it all.

 the hub melted the fuse when I took it apart  to see what was up. there is a fine cut/slash across some traces.   my 50 plus year old eyes are not fixing it.  

 some one with good hands and eyes can fix it.

7 dead sticks and a dead psu all fit in a medium flat rate.

 I will pay to ship.  so   if you want this. send me a pm then send me  .131 btc

 

Okay I mined at only 1 mine www.bitminter.com

 two reasons I like the plug n play java client.  I was unable to set up any other working mine due to time constraints and while I have a lot of skills writing code has always been tough on me.   It also has become a good selling point for my ebay buyers as I cater to Asic miner usb stick buyers and help them set up on bitminer.com

  Bitminter.com has a 1 month contest  


  the winner gets a free knc miner a very nice prize.  I have 32gh out of 230th  or about a 1 in 7000 chance of winning the prize.    our current hash power is over 3tb going to be over 4tb by monday.     if we hash at bitminter  we could win a knc miner  no cost to enter and the pool pays close to the pools we use now.     if we point 4th  at the pool we have a 4 in 230 chance of winning the contest at no cost .



https://bitminter.com/mintrace  


 this is the contest.   I was a top 50 player on site for close to a year.  but I am more into using this coop now.

the contest runs the length of nov.  and more hash power means a better chance of hashing a block.   it would be nice to get a free knc miner.

 we don't have to make a commitment .  I do realize that we have a good pool to mine in now but I like the idea of the shot at winning the miner. 

I am feeling lucky.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151120

seasonic 760  lists for 159 usd after rebate  

.5 btc shipped to 48 states continental  it went on sale so i dropped price from .65 BTC to .51 BTC



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139054

 corsair  650 watt lists for 99 after rebate   .45 btc shipped to lower 48 states send pm

 I am deleting old posts

http://bitinme.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1&zenid=e00375b8da02f2fa996de75a0c82eb66


10 coins for $769 sounds too good to be true. anyone ever use them?

I will do 1 or 2 or 3 up to a total of 8btc.  I GOT MORE FUNDS IN. I did a small buy so I can still grab 8btc.

you send first. After I get a confirm.  I will  paypal gift payment to your email.


My ebay page 10 years more then  1000 feedbacks all positive 0 negatives and 0 neutrals.


http://myworld.ebay.com/philipma1957

I have been mining since August 2012
I joined this site back  then.

My two deals here so far:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=257123.0     for 10 btc

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=258819.0     for 7 btc

here is a third deal done on sat nite the 20th of july

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259581.0      for .56btc

 mtgox is at  $ 89.73  usd at  9:00 PM eastern standard  time.  sat the 20th

so I will pay 91.73 a coin . I will  send  the payments  as a gift.

 Only want 1 coin at a time you go first.

 If you want to sent me all 8 up front that works. (BETTER OFF STARTING WITH 1)

Or 1 at a time. Once I get a confirm I will send the  paypal gift.

I am Planning to try to do this a few times each week.

  

pm me   thanks phil

[THIS IS A DONE DEAL]

THIS IS A DONE DEAL

 I will lock it later today.


I will do 1 or 2 or 3 up to 7.   I now have more funds to spend so I bumped the thread up to 7 coins from 4.

My ebay page 10 years more then  1000 feedbacks all positive 0 negatives and 0 neutrals.


http://myworld.ebay.com/philipma1957


My one deal here so far:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=257123.0


    mtgox is at  $ 88.50 usd at  11:50 pm eastern standard  time.  


 so I will pay 90.50 a coin . I will  send  the payments  as a gift.   1 coin at a time you go first. if you want to sent me all 7 up front that works. Or 1 at a time. I am Planning to try to do this once or twice a week.

  

pm me   thanks phil