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721  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin business success on: December 03, 2017, 11:37:17 AM
I;m interested, since bitcoin isn't that much widespread yet, how are businesses (that are directed towards bitcoin only) doing? Is it paying off or is there some serious profit involved?
It depends on the business, exchanges are making a killing right now with the prices of Bitcoin and all alts so high, but in the other hand I think casinos may be suffering a little bit since everyone is looking at ways to make money and not to spend it.

There will be gamblers who are ready to play in casinos. The only point is that the volumes in BTC terms may dip because of the price increase. Gamblers generally buy bitcoins with fiat and then gamble. If the price of bitcoin increases, they are getting less bitcoins for their fiat currencies.

Casinos and online gambling games are still very profitable because those who gamble are enticed to play since the returns are very high. However, since the price of bitcoin is increasing, this may make it hard for the players to make bitcoin purchases or bets.

Bitcoin businesses are definitely profitable right now so better get it while it's hot. There are a few shops which offer bitcoin as a payment system so perhaps opening up one would be convenient and attractive for bitcoin users.
722  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin bubble on: December 03, 2017, 11:31:45 AM
I think its important to remember that even good companies/products can be overpriced and exhibit bubble like drops in value. Bitcoin is no different. I think there are too many young people who invest in bitcoin and don't remember what 1999-2000 was like. It only took the Y2K scare to eliminate TRILLIONS of dollars in market cap from good companies like Google, Microsoft, Broadcom, IBM, etc. It had nothing to do with people deciding computers weren't important in the future or that computers were a worthless product. It just happened that people had gotten ahead of themselves in valuing how fast and how dramatically computers would change our lives, but more importantly how that rapid change would translate directly into profits.

One problem with bitcoin is it doesn't generate profit if the price isn't rising. That should always be on your mind as an investor.

The Y2K scare made the people doubt and lose their faith on computers. This developed a fear of an impending crash and this discouraged the investors. At that moment, they actually DECIDED that computers will be rendered useless once this crash happens. The investor's loss of faith on computers when the Y2K scare happened was what made the elimination of trillions of dollars. Once the investor's lose faith, it's game over. This would happen to bitcoin as well if its users choose to lose interest or faith on it. Since it's speculative, the price would definitely drop once the users suddenly have doubts on the price.
723  Economy / Economics / Re: If the powerful governments wanted to, do you think they could stop Bitcoin? on: December 02, 2017, 03:47:24 AM
To kill a thing you have to know its central and whereas btc don`t have a central it is not logical to say they would kill it. But if they put high taxes on it and if some other governments adopt it they will face so difficulties.
If bitcoin will be taxed, it means the transaction fees will be double its price. If the government does thess act, not all users can afford expensive transaction fees. As of today they already complain about the high fees bitcoin  currently have

Governments generate revenue through taxes so if they would want to get money through the bitcoin users in the country, then they may probably do that. Also, they may impose regulations or limitations for bitcoin users and holders. This would be a hassle for us users especially if, for example, the government chooses to regulate the exchanges. A way for them to stop bitcoin would be creating a ban or prohibiting its use or possession.
724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why people from 3rd countries are crazy about getting cryptos? on: December 02, 2017, 03:32:40 AM
I'm from the Philippines myself. Yep 3rd world.

The fast gains Btc provided this year indeed attracts allot of people-with majority suffering from unemployment or poor wages. Bitcoin is acting like a get rich scheme, but we all know how volatile Bitcoin is, crypto is more complex than that.

I admit when you're desperate, you tend to jump into things without understanding them first. Especially if these things involve less work and fast profits.



This is mainly the reason. Wages are really low in the Philippines and Filipinos have been looking for ways to earn extra or get better jobs just to sustain their families (i.e. work abroad, become an overseas Filipino worker) and somehow, bitcoin has provided them with extra money or sideline income through signature campaigns. Because of this, a lot of Filipinos engaged into joining this forum with only the sole aim to earn through signature campaigns even without knowing about bitcoin entirely. Out of desperation, it has made them "go crazy over bitcoin".

I can't but deny that there are a lot of users in this forum who are like that. However, their financial situation in the Philippines and circumstance has made them this way. With the hopes of earning more, or to even just sustain their family, this has created the "hype" in third world countries such as the Philippines.
725  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you think its now the time to sell bitcoin? on: December 02, 2017, 03:21:20 AM
You can sell or hold depending on your needs. Currently, bitcoin is worth more than $ 10000 so if you want to take profit you can sell. But I think the bitcoin will continue to increase in the future, so you can keep it until the bitcoin reaches $ 15,000 by the end of 2017.

It's really up to you, OP. A lot may say, even experts, that the price of bitcoin would continue to increase in the future but if you were to think otherwise, then cashing out at this price wouldn't be so bad. If you've already profited from the moment you bought your bitcoin and feel satisfied with your profit, then my advice would be to cash out. If you're inclined towards long term investment and also believes that bitcoin will have much greater value in the future, then just continue to hold it. Base your decision on what's most suitable for you.
726  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are You Easily Discouraged with Dips? on: December 01, 2017, 07:19:53 AM
I used to have some doubts or get a twinge of fear when the price would dip but once I found out that it's normal for the price to experience some dips and corrections every now and then, I no longer get worried when it does. Unless some event may happen that would cause an impending crash, I don't get bothered by the dips. Also, whenever there is a dip I expect the price to rise a lot higher right after so it's actually better and beneficial for the users because it gives them the opportunity to buy and sell then get some profits.
727  Economy / Economics / Re: volatility and transaction fees... on: December 01, 2017, 05:22:05 AM
i think these things overtime will make bitcoin not as valuable.. plus the fact banks (while hated by most), have hundreds of years of reputation behind them and are easy to access... Just reading and learning about the ins and outs of bitcoin make my head hurt and I'm fairly saavy when it comes to most tech

Access to Bitcoins and altcoins has been cumbersome to many of us, but I think that it starting to change and will keep improving so that the average person will eventually be able to buy and use Bitcoins easily. Remember that in the early days of the internet, it was also very cumbersome and email was foreign to most of us. Also the early days of computers wasn’t very user friendly either.

I do agree that the fees and transaction times could hold Bitcoin back some and could eventually relegate Bitcoin to just a store of value and other coins could eventually pass Bitcoin in market cap.

I agree that bitcoin may be on its way towards better access. It's a phase that any invention would go through, even cars were only limited to a few people back then - mostly just the rich. It eventually became mainstream and almost everyone have cars as of this day. These are problems and complications that bitcoin has, it's transaction fees and time would hinder its users and solutions should be made for this.
728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does every mainstream media article on Bitcoin end in negativity? on: December 01, 2017, 01:12:30 AM
Rather then negativity, I would view it as a disclaimer. You don't want gullible readers suing you and telling that you misled them into investing in Bitcoin and losing a lot of money. Mainstream media are just playing it safe.

This may be the case. If the author were to persuade it's readers to invest in bitcoin, then they may get sued if these investors lose their money. As said, they could have just been playing on the safe side because they also fear the volatility of bitcoin and 'lack of security'.

However, there are many articles out there dissuading the public to get involved or invest in bitcoin. Perhaps this is simply the trend and writers just want to follow suit.
729  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 88% of Japanese have heard of bitcoin -- how about your country? -- on: November 30, 2017, 02:19:23 PM
Im not pretty sure, perhaps 30% of our total population here in the Philippines have heard about bitcoin, but only few who invest of it, maybe because of lack of knowledge and lack of resources to get involved with bitcoin business.  

That’s quite true. Ony a number of people in the Philippines know about it. It’s been increasing in popularity the past few weeks. A lot get curious and have some interest in investing. It’s not yet mainstream and bitcoin would still be a foreign concept to a lot in the Philippines if you were to ask them. It’s true that bitcoin knowledge is lacking and limited, also there’s not much resources for the bitcoin users as said.
730  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Staying on track with BTC prices on: November 29, 2017, 02:34:29 AM
Do you guys check prices of crypto's daily? I'm finding it so stressful to predict and watch prices shoot up and down.

Of course not, why would you ever do that? Well if you want to day trade, then you need to be looking at charts all day during your trades, but if you are not doing that, then there is no reason to look at it's price so often. Bitcoin and crypto in general are so volatile, that looking at it's price over and over again, is way to stressful. I do check them with some regularity, to see if we got new all time highs, but I perfectly conformable with it's price drops as well, so I only do it out of curiosity, and it doesn't stress me.

I think it's important to be on the ball in regards to BTC prices. I went away for 2 days and it's nearly at $10k... If you don't follow the dips and peaks it's gonna be pretty hard to invest or pull out


Yes, I agree. I also check the price in order to check whether the price have hit another all time high, but not too often. I usually just check it daily. It's still important to keep up to date on the BTC prices, without having to check on it every now and then otherwise this would stress you out. It is but expected to see some price dips every now and then so one shouldn't fret to see the price go down once you check it. We should keep up with the trend, as this would help us in making decisions to buy or sell.
731  Local / Esercizi commerciali / Re: what do you think will be the future of this market? on: November 28, 2017, 01:51:16 PM
what do you think will be the future of this market? and what needs to change so governments will start to recognize it as a currency?

Governments typically cater to the will of those who wield the greatest political influence. Money is correlated with political influence. The more money someone has & the more they're willing to spend it towards funding political campaigns and lobbyist efforts, this grants a person political influence. Owning guns and weapons also gives a person or group political influence. It might be fair to say the reason the united states had the most political influence in the world was due to it having a lot of money, a wealthy economy and having a powerful military.

In asking which policy a government is likely to embrace, the question of which policy is advocated by those who wield the greatest political influence comes into play. If those with the most political influence want bitcoin to be recognized as a currency, that is typically the policy politicians will adopt.


Those things may be true - wealth and power gives one influence in the political world. However, other than people with power, money and guns, I still believe that the sovereign people have influence and power.

In a democratic country, the people have sovereign power. If there were many citizens who use bitcoin, then the government would have no choice but to make some actions and do something about it. They would have to either adopt it or prohibit it if they find it to be a threat to the nation. Its possible for bitcoin to be recognized by the government as a currency, it will because it is needed by its people.
732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the bitcoin price doesn't stop rising? on: November 28, 2017, 01:35:47 PM
Because speculators not want this. And bitcoin more and more stable. Especially, we will have hard to earn BTC, prize on mining decreasing, price increasing.
The rise is price is due to the investor interest they find bitcoin more profitable than any other investment and this thing is the key factor to the rise in prices because people are investing more and more and prices are now unstoppable and the time will come when the prices will reach to the highest level and still many people who are willing to buy more bitcoins think about them when they will invest prices will rise more.

Along with that, the popularity of bitcoin has been growing more and more each day. People have been getting more curious because its price has been pretty impressive, and it's beginning to be talked about in the financial and business sectors. This tremendous price has catched the attention of business magnates and other investors.

Not to be negative, but this kind of trend of alarming price increase has brought critics to say that this is a bubble. Whether it's true or not, the bitcoin price trend has made others have these kind of thoughts and comments.
733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the bitcoin price doesn't stop rising? on: November 28, 2017, 01:26:59 PM
Because speculators not want this. And bitcoin more and more stable. Especially, we will have hard to earn BTC, prize on mining decreasing, price increasing.
The rise is price is due to the investor interest they find bitcoin more profitable than any other investment and this thing is the key factor to the rise in prices because people are investing more and more and prices are now unstoppable and the time will come when the prices will reach to the highest level and still many people who are willing to buy more bitcoins think about them when they will invest prices will rise more.

Along with that, the popularity of bitcoin has been growing more and more each day. People have been getting more curious because its price has been pretty impressive, and it's beginning to be talked about in the financial and business sectors. This tremendous price has catched the attention of business magnates and other investors.

Not to be negative, but this kind of trend of alarming price increase has brought critics to say that this is a bubble. Whether it's true or not, the bitcoin price trend has made others have these kind of thoughts and comments.
734  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can I earn bitcoin using facebook, youtube, or in any social media? on: November 27, 2017, 12:03:43 PM
Yes, you can OP. Just check out the bounty campaigns found in the altcoin section of this forum. There's a lot offered there wherein you can help them advertise their ICOs through social media or blogs then get paid in tokens. There are some facebook and twitter campaigns, and video/youtube or blog campaigns that may be found in the services section of this forum which offer to pay in BTC.

Asides from that, there are many other ways to earn BTC. Best to read up in this forum in order for you to acquire more knowledge and learn from the other bitcoin user veterans.
735  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Can I open up a local shop and sell bitcoins for cash? on: November 27, 2017, 11:50:29 AM
You would probably need a license for it . One thing that I have extensively read from fellow traders in the US, is that its hard to sell bitcoins without the license.I also don't expect you would get a serious and completely accurate reply on btctalk, so would suggest asking a lawyer rregarding this.

Right, do you have any idea where I could find lawyers knowledgable on bitcoin laws?

Perhaps it's best to inquire with the lawyers around your area, because it would depend on the legality of bitcoin there. It may be hard to find a lawyer who's knowledgeable on bitcoin, especially since I think there's not much law or jurisprudence relating to bitcoin since it's quite new in the international scene.

Regarding your business, I think that there will be a need for license or papers for that even it is concerning to bitcoin. Any kind of business that you would want to put up would require some paperwork and registration, otherwise you might be operating illegally. Every business should be recognized by the state.
736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Successful ICO Experiences on: November 26, 2017, 07:51:57 PM
Personally, I don't have any because I've never invested in an ICO before. I've received tokens however I haven't profited greatly from any yet. I mainly hodl bitcoins and aim to earn more BTC.

I've heard about numerous ICO experiences before though. Despite this, I haven't tried investing in one because I'm too scared and I find it hard to determine which one to invest to. Everyone's been saying to check out the white paper, development team and etc. however it's hard to simply just base on those. It's quite a huge risk with high rewards.
737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People's feeling towards Bitcoin is changing on: November 25, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
Nothing to worry as these are temporary issues and I am sure that in the coming years we will have the concrete solutions for these issues. Yes, there is mixed opinion about Bitcoin and blockchain based cryptocurrencies but while focusing on positive part, the situation was worst 3 years ago and the half of the people who were calling it a bubble or Ponzi scheme are now getting involved with the Bitcoin and the perception is slowly changing so I don't see this as a big trouble.

I must agree. People or news like these pop up every now and then, and so far the tide hasn't turned completely. It would die down then reappear every now and then. People will always have something negative or bad to say about bitcoin even when it's at its peak or performing very well. There will always be some haters out there who will try to bring bitcoin down.

Also, it's quite possible that these are just FUDs. The recent price increase may brought others to want to lower to price, thus creating such FUDs.
738  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin ends a year at $10 000 on: November 25, 2017, 05:00:55 PM
Today Galaxy Investment Partners Founder Mike Novogratz said to Bloomberg: "Bitcoin is like gold, it has value because people say it has value".
He believes bitcoin ends a year at $10 000! Can you believe this?! 

This is possible because many investors are continiuing to invest in bitcoin. So hitting on $10 000 will be possible before the year ends but the question here is what will be the outcome in 2018 if this value will steady or go down because some rumors says there is a hard fork this december.

If there were to be a hard fork this december, then that would have a great impact on the price. It may create a huge surge or possibly a massive price drop. The growing number of investors may also contribute to a price increase by the end of the year, along with the positive news for bitcoin. Personally, I still think that reaching $10,000 may be a long shot despite all these factors contributing to a price increase.
739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How fast Bitcoin is spreading. on: November 24, 2017, 03:45:03 PM
How nice of that, OP. Congratulations on your upcoming talk, also I would like to commend you for contributing to better knowledge on bitcoin in your community. It's really good that bitcoin has been being recognized in the academic scene. Just a few months ago, most people (even those in school) don't even know about bitcoin. Now, I've been seeing studies and thesis' being done on bitcoin also it is already being discussed in the academe. This really is a big step towards better recognition and awareness on bitcoin.
740  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to overcome the fear of holding? on: November 23, 2017, 03:52:52 AM
I've always been one who sells to earlier, either to minimize my losses or to realize my earnings ASAP and leave. I've seen in most of my investments, if not all that if I would've just left the coins there they would've been worth 10-50x what I put in before. This is upsetting as a person and trader, as I see how much money I'm missing out on.
 Waiting around for more and more money?
It is not that simple, but it is possible.
There are few things that you should do while holding(lets suppose you bought coins and you want to hold them for few years)
-Forget about them
-Don't listen to FUD
-Don't read news
-Come back after few years and sell them.

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How do you traders do it, hold and hold and hold.
Traders trade and investors hold.

I would like to disagree on some points here. I still think that it's important for an investor to read the news and be updated with the current events. Even though some may draw out fear or would make one to panic sell, I still think that being up to date is still pretty important because this may help you in making financial decisions especially for investors.

There will always be that fear and I would want to point out that it's because there is a risk in investing so the best way would be to just continue to have faith in your investment.
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