Hydrogen's liquid state requires super cooling.

Maybe if you went to science class once, you'd know this.  

There's a certain individual who pretends he's a victim, when in reality;



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How about we start talking about the guy that incited the right? Trump's a symptom of the propaganda machine, but the buck does stop with the President, in my opinion.

You're just highlighting your ignorance. It's not liquid, it's compressed gas.

If you want to talk about liquid hydrogen, well, that's a different thread.


Only an idiot would think LPG = hydrogen. That's like saying "COPPER IS IDENTICAL TO IRON IN EVERY WAY".

It's two entirely separate chemicals.

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Yall gotta go back to 8th grade chemistry.

Right to repair is absolutely critical to ensuring food security. John Deere locks their hardware down with a software level. Pretty much, the only way to repair your own hardware was to pirate software.

I'm glad these protections have extended to the average citizens. If I purchase something, that device is mine. If I have to bypass a login screen or some other form of DRM to play my legally purchased game, they can fuck right off.

This is quite off-topic, but the Vegas shooter was linked to gambling and real estate. Pretty sure he was Russian linked too.

Not ISIS or ANTIFA you fake news spreading piece of shit

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So, any right-wingers here gonna apologize for their "false flag" narrative?

I wonder if those conspiracy nuts are going to apologize for their attacks of "left-wing" individuals. Claiming it's a "false flag operation by the left" instead of accepting the reality of the situation.

I'm absolutely amazed we didn't see the fake news here that was circulating the internet yesterday.

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It's crazy some people here are defending a domestic terrorist.

Ahahaha, the maga bomber was caught

Right wing extremist -- wait guys, wait until he's declared guilty before calling him a criminal.


Inb4:
This is just a left-wing setup by the FBI and other agencies to target Trump!!!!!!!!!

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Christ, the guy's car shows he was the epitome of metal security:

I saw it was from like 2014 or something, but wasn't too long ago in the grand scheme of things. Also, the forum isn't a live-only-thing, not just "guys, it's older than 10 min old, forget it!!!"

Actually, that'd probably cut down on the spam; except there's like 6 posts per week whining about deleted posts. Better off creating one for ban appeals and account recovery.

Also, just because a forum or software implements a certain feature set doesn't make it an amazing, all-inclusive, best platform. Reddit has all sorts of problems.


I'd be willing to bet the javascript trash forum that we're supposedly migrating to won't allow that feature without months of changes. Pretty sure you could just add a query to the existing forum to check the age of the most recent post, and if it's greater than several months; disallow the post. SMF probably wouldn't be that hard to extend.

Maybe implement a platform that locks old posts then? I'm pretty sure reddit implements a feature similar to this.


Just because a thread is old doesn't make it irrelevant to the conservation of communities, especially in a place like society and politics.

I'll build my own platform, with blackjack and hookers!

Jesus christ, can't even talk about marriage without getting posts removed. Damned radicals in the thread stating marriage is where the man owns the women. As soon as a moderate voice comes in; reported and deleted.

Fuck this forum for 'freedom of expression'; it's just right wing extremist with their nutty conspiracy theories and authoritarian ruling of society.

It'a pretty funny that people link "conservipedia" as scientific evidence.

Holy shit, might as well just post an entire "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" as your argument.

Hey, guys, YOU'RE ALL WRONG BECAUSE *PEDIA says so - idiots from the right.


They don't even argue the merits of the science. They literally just spread misinformation and bullshit without actually reading or understanding the evidence.

People need to start paying attention to the sides. The side offering science evidence vs the side offering feelings.

It seems certain users are entirely blind to reality. If you can't even piece together the victims of attacks or notice calls of violence from certain individuals, you're gonna have a rough time in the real world.

Pretty bad when a single individual can literally call for violence, but no one holds that individual accountable.


See, at points like this, I think we should hold those accountable for inciting violence. Do you think, without this news story, that an individual would do the same?

Anarchy and communism can coexist the same way anarchy and capitalism can coexist.

Anarcho-commuism exists, but it's way too extreme.

Honestly, I like anarcho-socialism. It's like we all work together to create the best product, but we're all trying to make the absolute best because it's still anarchy in industry.

Right wing extremism is a scary thing.

I'm pretty sure the person or people that are mailing these bombs through the mail are mentally ill in at least some way. There's no way that a mentally competent person would think this was a good idea in anyway, shape, or form.

As a democratic supporter, I feel as though I could be next personally, if a certain individual really wanted it so.

Unlike these victims, I don't have a security detail. They're obviously getting a basic hit-list from some place. So far, there's been wild accusations that it's some left-wing person targeting their own people as some false-flag operation. "Hey guys, I'm going to risk my freedom by spreading fear through bombs in the mail to well guarded people". That's some nutbag crazy conspiracy tbh. Eventually, the perpetrator will be caught. There's plenty of lessons of that. What person in their right mind would even think to do something.

Now, onto the actual perpetrator. The hit-list comes from Trump himself, as so far, only the individuals targeted have criticized them. The victims are all registered democrat voter, as far as I'm aware. There were political and cultural people victims.

A few questions; was this a state-sanctioned act? is America under attack?

Sadly, without evidence, we can't even rule this out. It's obviously an internal attack, and I'm sure our borders are safe. I don't feel as though it'd be a nation-state level of events, even though Putin does hate some of these individuals (including Clinton).

The only supporting evidence this is foreign to me, is they fucked up the envelope. That could have just been a way to bypass security, however it was off. Even that seems a bit far-fetched, at least to me.

So, assuming the attack in internal, what can we leverage from the information we have. Let's look at the consumption of media by the individual.

I don't really follow right wing extremist (eg. Alex Jones) but I know of it. I know there was calling of violence, anger, hate, pretty much everything that breeds political incitement. I caught some AM radio news and holy hell, the way people talk about stuff. It's absolutely mindnumbing. The amount of mental gymnastics people make. Paint Obama as the devil for years, but then say "don't criticize the president, it's unamerican". Anyway, back to my point, the right. I'm assuming these people are mentioned frequently in right wing media. I'd imagine they need some sort of mental scapegoat for problems they're facing.

The targets are democrats that haven't been mentioned in months by moderate left media. Also, as a moderate left member of democrats, I feel some disdain towards the DNC for failing at security procedures and Clinton especially for being in bed with the lobbist. But Biden aint done nothing wrong, nor has any of the other individuals listed. To be honest, if we never find out who the perpetrator is, and all these individuals run for office, I'll put on my tin hat and call this whole mess a left-wing conspiracy. However, I don't forsee Clinton trying another run at Trump. I don't see De Niro going for it either.

I'm not sure about the moderate left or right to be honest. I think they're mostly keeping their heads down and staying out of it. I'd like to rule those people out.

Now, looking at the evidence, we can probably assume the individual was a right-wing extremist with mental issues.

Mental issues stem from a variety of problems, such as poverty and drug addiction, other are more natural. America does have a drug problem, too much black market, not enough regulation. Legalization of weed is coming along as progress in a few states, but myth and heroin has been taking this nation by storm. Rural towns are meth'd up, cities are heroin'd down from my perspective. I think it was probably someone myth'd up, to be honest. It seems as though someone listening to AM radio while doing some meth (and I bet you there are hundreds across America doing this now, in our land of 330 million (with only 300 million free currently [rofl 10% incarceration]) could be reasonable of suspicion of committing a crime or two. I mean, smoking, injecting... consuming meth is against the law, as far as I'm aware. But the larger issue is they're sending bombs through the mail.

A meth-head with a stolen laptop searches internet bomb and prints off a couple labels, drops them off at random sections, and them damned evil doers will be dead.

If the individual's a gaming man:
I'd bet he'd gamble on the next target. De Niro being the odd ball no one picked or some bullshit. I'm not sure, I don't gamble, but goddamned, cheating the system

Anyway, until the FBI releases more details, I'm making the assumption it's some rural meth addicted right wing extremist executing his wild aggressive fantasies without regard to reality.

My assumption could be wrong pretty quickly if all of a sudden political allies to Trump were targeted next, not individuals that he has attacked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVNojwqylYM

Many explosion, such fear, wow.

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No, but seriously, the youtube video shows a tank of compressed hydrogen being shot. The gases escape and quickly rise into the atmosphere.

If we tried that same test with either natural gas, gasoline, or pretty much any other carbon based fuel, it'd probably explode terribly.

Hydrogen is dramatically safer than petroleum.

1. Each finding is grounded in an evaluation of underlying evidence and agreement. In many cases, a synthesis of evidence and agreement supports an
assignment of confidence. The summary terms for evidence are: limited, medium or robust. For agreement, they are low, medium or high. A level of
confidence is expressed using five qualifiers: very low, low, medium, high and very high, and typeset in italics, e.g., medium confidence. The following
terms have been used to indicate the assessed likelihood of an outcome or a result: virtually certain 99–100% probability, very likely 90–100%,
likely 66–100%, about as likely as not 33–66%, unlikely 0–33%, very unlikely 0–10%, exceptionally unlikely 0–1%. Additional terms (extremely
likely 95–100%, more likely than not >50–100%, more unlikely than likely 0–<50%, extremely unlikely 0–5%) may also be used when appropriate.
Assessed likelihood is typeset in italics, e.g., very likely. See for more details: Mastrandrea, M.D., C.B. Field, T.F. Stocker, O. Edenhofer, K.L. Ebi, D.J. Frame,
H. Held, E. Kriegler, K.J. Mach, P.R. Matschoss, G.-K. Plattner, G.W. Yohe and F.W. Zwiers, 2010: Guidance Note for Lead Authors of the IPCC Fifth Assessment
Report on Consistent Treatment of Uncertainties, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), Geneva, Switzerland, 4 pp.





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http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/syr/AR5_SYR_FINAL_SPM.pdf

You obviously didn't read the article my friend.

I'll go ahead and quote directly from the article. If you did actually read the article, I think you need some better reading comprehension.

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The claim: "Beto is most anti-Israel because this one vote"

Stated here:

Sen. Ted Cruz asserts that Rep. Beto O’Rourke has “the most anti-Israel record of any Senate Democratic candidate.” To back up the claim, he points to one particular vote against funding for Iron Dome, a defense system that lets Israel knock down rockets raining down from Gaza and elsewhere.

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The article does dispute that the claim by just posting contradictory evidence:

Here is a look at funding for Iron Dome through Defense Appropriations bills since Cruz and O’Rourke have been in Washington:

FY2014: $235.309 million passed. The House voted 315-108; O'Rourke supported. Passed in the Senate 84-15; Cruz did not support it.

FY2014 supplemental bill for $225 million: The House voted 395-8, O’Rourke did not support it. The Senate unanimously voted for the bill.

FY2015: Of the $585 million in the Defense Appropriations bill, $351 million went to Israel’s Iron Dome. It passed in the House with a unanimous vote. It eventually passed in the Senate after changes with a vote of 89-11. Cruz voted against it.

FY2016: $55 million, though the bill was vetoed by President Barack Obama. The House passed the appropriations with a vote of 269-151, with O’Rourke voting for it. The Senate passed it with a 71-25 vote; Cruz did not support it. A revised bill, S 1356, was signed by Obama on Nov. 25, 2015. The House passed it 370-58; O’Rourke voted for it. The Senate passed it with a vote of 91-3; Cruz did not cast a vote.  

FY2017: Congress passed the NDAA authorizing $600.7 million for missile defense and anti-tunneling efforts. O’Rourke voted against the spending, but it passed in the House, 277-147. The Senate had its own version of the appropriations and it passed 85-13. Cruz voted against it.  

FY2018: Congress authorized $705 million for Israel missile defense. Passed in the House 344-81, O’Rourke supported the spending. Passed in the Senate 89-8, marking the first time Cruz supported defense appropriations spending.  

FY2019: $500 million for co-development and co-production of Iron Dome and other Israeli defense programs. Passed in the House 351-66, O’Rourke supported. Passed in the Senate 85-10 with support from Cruz.  

They'll deny it then even. Blame it on the wraith of God or some other nonsense. People absolutely refuse to accept reality.

I do agree with the sentiment that there's not really much reason to argue with them. They're not looking to change their opinion.

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Climate getting to that point won't really be good for anyone. Think of the animals. Think of the children.

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We needed radical, dramatic change globally years ago. We've just entered the start of the loop. Hopefully, we'll be able to make a technological break through to solve the problem globally. Awareness simply won't work. It seems there's a loud bunch of people that are science-denying idiots. It's the same shit as anti-vaxers, flat-earthers, moon-conspiracist, etc.

To be honest, other than an amazing megastructure that can offset our carbon emissions, I don't see the science making way for a lot of the active individuals here in politics and society, regardless of how much evidence is presented.