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1  Economy / Economics / Re: Cheap money and High debt can change Job market this is how on: Today at 09:35:55 PM
It is difficult to make someone understand what the impact of paying a salary is to someone who has never founded or built a company at all. If you have a company, you will definitely pay attention to the cash flow of that company. Imagine paying a high salary but it turns out your business is not full of demand, will you be able to maintain the business? Of course not, however, company finances are not as easy as you think, you have to think hard, you even have to hire the right people so that the money you spend to pay employee salaries every month can be on target.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: Today at 08:46:06 PM
You are right. I just remembered that Bellingham originally came from Dortmund from 2020 until last season. And yes, this will be a match that will bring Bellingham together with his former colleagues on the field. but this time Bellingham will be the opponent for all his former colleagues at Dortmund. This will be very interesting. But when Belllingham was at Dortmund he was not very productive. But after joining Real Madrid, Bellingham became very productive. At Dortmund he only scored 12 goals in 3 seasons. But at Real Madrid Bellingham has scored more than 20 goals if I remember correctly.

I see that there are a lot of Madrid players who will definitely face their former team in the UCL, but indeed every Madrid player's mentality is in place to be a player with a steel mentality and not get carried away by their feelings when facing their former team, Madrid is a team that will definitely be UCL champions this season, their chances are very big and that cannot be denied.
3  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy BTC sold for 16 BTC-1 mil USD on: Today at 06:18:15 PM
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Usually auction items or items at low prices will be a special target for smart people who have a lot of money if they already know the true price of the item. And in fact we can also compare this to investors and traders who at the beginning of last year also took the opportunity to buy more Bitcoin at low prices with the aim of making more profits through that. And we ourselves, who have also seen this, don't want to just miss it, especially as we have also done research repeatedly on certain items or on Bitcoin which we are familiar with up to now.

I'm not a collector so I can't comment more harshly on their decision to buy RARE items related to Bitcoin, but to be honest, they actually want to make history, just imagine what's the point of those who buy a piece of paper "buy Bitcoin" worth tens of BTC! if not to make themselves famous, then many times the goal of rich collectors is just to find a big name or become a legend.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where Will It Go If The Money Comes From Illegal Source on: Today at 04:10:28 PM
Part of casinos' terms of service is banning your account if you cannot justify your source of income or they think it comes from an illegal source, so if a casino bans your account. You have 6 digits in your account; where will the money go, and do they have the right to keep the money? There is no provision; I read they will turn over the money to the authorities.

Is it legal for casinos to keep the money?

This discussion is based on a question of our bro seoincorporation

Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?

Let's have an open conversation on this


If the money is suspicious then actually the online gambling owner has full power to lock the funds in that account and that is usually stated in the TOS.

If you have 6 digits that you want to launder in an online casino, you must first meet with the casino owner because it would be very stupid if you launder criminal money but end up having your money locked in that account, usually online casino owners have several active contacts. people who often launder money on their platforms, the term KYC is just a cover, even though they launder criminal money behind the camera.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: Today at 01:02:47 PM
Their defense problem was highlighted in early half of the season, but sadly they fail to fix this which create problems for them throughout season, and now they are going end their season with second spot and concede most goals in top four teams even their attack is also most effective with having 93 goals in 31 matches is impressive from them, but now they need to work on their defense before next season started because this could be key for their success.

We have two teams are spotted for the AFC Champions League with Al Hilal and Al Nassr but for third spot we are having three teams in race with Al Ahli is favorite because Al Ittihad is lost their chances and can stay at the fourth spot which is surely not ideal end for the titleholder in last season.

Al Hilal is very strong this season, even up to the 30th match they have played, Al Hilal have not lost at all, they really deserve to be champions of the SPL this season.

Meanwhile, for Al Ittihad, even though they have shown Benzema, that doesn't mean anything for the team's performance, in fact they have to settle for 4th place, below Al ahli position.

Al Nassr must be able to improve themselves, especially their defense, so that they can compete with Al Hilal next season.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: Today at 11:54:09 AM
We'll have to see how Girona goes through the transfer market this summer, it looks like Atletico are serious about getting Dovbyk and I think this could be decisive for Girona as to how much they can hold on to their squad. If they can keep all the key players and strengthen the team, they can count on repeating the results they achieved this season, if they sell off players in the desire to make a good profit, then the result will be appropriate.

Dovbyk is the most expensive asset that Girona currently owns, it would be a shame if Girona sold Dovbyk, but not many big teams are still looking at Dovbyk with a high value, but in order to start a good journey, maybe Girona should sell Dovbyk, at least they can buy talented young players with the money obtained from the sale of dovbyk.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: May 09, 2024, 10:27:59 PM
If we truly know that how we are gambling is being done in such a way that is expected of us to do, then we need not to care on what other people are saying concerning how we gambles, the problem many have is that they don't engaged in doing the right thing and still don't mind or care about what others are saying, we have to watch our steps from the way we are gambling, because other people are watching us if we don't know by ourself.

people out there only like to judge things that they have not experienced themselves, often other people's sentences are enough to weaken the strong intentions that someone has carried out, if you are already skilled at gambling and you have never incurred debts for gambling then don't listen to what other people say, just focus on remaining consistent in your gambling.
8  Economy / Economics / Re: Your own people family best friends and loyal supportive people are true wealth on: May 09, 2024, 07:57:32 PM
relationships between humans must always be maintained, in other words the wheel of life continues to turn and this cannot be stopped, maybe at the moment you are in the best condition but who knows what will happen to you in the next year, maybe your condition will change to your lowest point.

I always give food to those who ask me for food, I do this because I know that maybe in the future I will need someone's help, always maintain good relations between humans.
9  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 🚩 Blackjack.Fun | BTC Price Prediction ' May 12 | WIN $50! on: May 09, 2024, 06:53:48 PM
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10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 09, 2024, 06:19:15 PM
One of the two teams in the German league lost last night's match against Real Madrid in the last minute and now only waits for the match in Dortmund to see how they perform. Bayern Munich almost came close to winning but they unexpectedly lost in the end. In a match different from the semi-final against PSG, Dortmund, the only team in the German league, will enter the field, although this team is already one goal ahead of PSG at the end of the first leg. If the German league can defeat PSG in the second leg to secure the Champions League final, the fans of every team in the German league will probably support Dortmund in their league. Now it remains to be seen whether they can overcome the obstacles of the second leg match well.

It is true that it is very likely that football fans throughout Germany will support Dortmund in the UCL final, but facing Madrid in the final is not an easy thing, especially since Madrid is always the winner in every match in the UCL.

Tomorrow Dortmund will face Mainz, this is quite an important match for Dortmund, don't let Dortmund's main players get injured in this match, Terzic will definitely field Dortmund's reserve players in this match.
11  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: [DISKUSI] Pemerintahan Prabowo - Gibran on: May 08, 2024, 07:20:43 PM
Setahuku memang PDIP cukup konsisten jika menyangkut dalam hal oposisi, dulu di zaman SBY PDIP merupakan partai yang sangat getol dalam hal melawan pemerintahan sehingga dalam 10 tahun pemerintahan SBY PDIP selalu mengcounter kebijakan yang dicanangkan oleh presiden. Jadi jika sekarang mereka akan jadi Oposisi, aku tidak terkejut lagi. Namun, apa iya mereka akan oposisi, karena antara mega dan prabowo itu aku lihat sangat harmonis, mereka dulu bersahabat dan pernah join bareng jadi peserta capres. Jelas ini beda dengan SBY dimana pernah ada luka pribadi di hati mega, sedangkan prabowo, aku kira kita akan ada kejutan, dan mungkin jatah menteri untuk PDIP akan lebih banyak dari Golkar kalau mereka gabung di pemerintahan.

ini juga yang saya pikirkan, apakah mampu PDIP menjadi oposisi di pemerintahan pak prabowo / gibran saat ini, namun pak ganjar secara tegas menyatakan dirinya akan menjadi oposisi, itu semua beliau lakukan bukan karena beliau adalah kader PDIP namun dia memang memiliki pandangan politik yang mungkin berbeda dengan pemerintah saat ini.

PDIP msih merupakan partai dengan suara terbesar di indonesia, kader2 yang berasal dari sana sangat berkualitas, maka itu mereka cukup yakin di pemilu selanjutnya mereka akan kembali menang, 5 tahun bukan waktu yang lama untuk menjadi oposisi menurut mereka mungkin.
12  Economy / Economics / Re: Food security might not be a priority for younger generations. (2) on: May 08, 2024, 06:32:58 PM
*Reposting this topic from my post in other forum.

There is a huge possibility of younger or new generations adopting cryptocurrency investments compared to them getting interests on farming and food related sectors. What do you think? Does it have a good or bad effects on our economy?

Your fear is that the possibility of this happening is very small, however this world will always look for its own balance, maybe we think that the majority of young people will choose to invest in cryptocurrencies rather than in the agricultural sector but what happens in the real world, there are so many balances happening, children Many young people are still interested in investing in the agricultural sector, not only in cryptocurrencies, in fact currently there are many new innovations emerging, for example hydroponic and aquaponic farming.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 08, 2024, 06:09:35 PM

 In a sense, Real already feels like a winner, and you are right, they should not underestimate Bayern, even though they are not going through the best period right now and there are problems in the team, it is still Bayern with very good players. For PSG, everyone also thought that they would be strong enough to beat Dortmund at home, of course Real is stronger than any other team, but sometimes unexpected results happen.

What an extraordinary result for Terzic, he succeeded in bringing a team like Dortmund to the UCL final, even beating PSG at home, the final match will definitely be very difficult for Dortmund, especially the opponent they are likely to face is Madrid, but to be honest, I really enjoyed the PSG vs Dortmund match, it was clear that PSG were too hasty, not like Dortmund.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 08, 2024, 03:02:34 PM
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Each coach has different tactics and different needs for the players needed in a team. The players recruited by Jose Mourinho are already quite good and it has been proven that De Rossi can continue this to make the team's performance even better.
However, if De Rossi builds the Roma team as he wants from the start, I think this team can be much better and De Rossi has also proven that he is a coach who has good qualities after being able to bring Roma out of its downturn this season.
Regardless of Roma's inconsistent performance at the end of the season like now, I think De Rossi has been quite successful so far and has made Roma's performance better compared to the start of the season when Mourinho still managed him.

I like the coaching style and strategies that De Rossi applies to Roma, so their performance has improved since Jose Mourinho left, but I hope that De Rossi doesn't have the same fate as Jose Mourinho, at the start of coaching Roma, Jose Mourinho looked really good. However, over time, Roma's performance has declined, next season will determine whether De Rossi is the right coach to coach Roma or not at all.
15  Economy / Lending / Re: Lending Service Started! (USDT/BUSD/BTC/LTC/ETH/DOGE/ETC)! on: May 08, 2024, 12:52:45 PM
Hi sir shasan, I sent $34 (my loan is paid off) to your binance ID, please confirm sir, thank you so much for your help.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 07, 2024, 03:04:05 PM
He reached the UCL final with Intermilan last season and is almost there again in the Europa League, im hoping that best of luck him. Lukaku is a good striker but sometims he can't even control is ego. He is still willing to play in the european competition. This is why he was trying to defend his position in the european club. He is an experienced striker and i hope he will get a new club asap.
It's better for Lukaku to join Saudi Pro League, if he continue to play in European team, he need to expect he will join mediocre team or second tier league. Any top tier teams will not want Lukaku since he can play for full time, become super-substitution and vulnerable against injuries.

FYI, Lukaku was the reason why Milan lose against Manchester City.

At the end of this season, Lukaku's loan period ends and there are reports that he will return to Chelsea, but Chelsea said they are trying to sell Lukaku to a team in the Arab League, but there has been no agreement from the team asking for Lukaku. This is a big problem if Luka continues his career at European league, he's getting old.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 07, 2024, 12:45:01 PM
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The performance of most teams on this premier League season is quite surprising because the teams that was doing very well in season ago has gone way down in terms of performance and also one of the things I understand about this season is that is more difficult than most of the seasons, however congratulations to Crystal Palace  on there winning against Manchester United they have ones again proves that they are far better than Manchester United, however I was even thinking that Manchester United will at least hold them to a draw considering there position on the table because if they had draw the match they would have gone ahead of Chelsea on the league table but they have lost the chance.

I was very surprised by the performance of Manchester United, even against the bottom teams, they were overwhelmed. Crystal Palace is a team that is currently in 14th position, but I really applaud them, in the last 5 matches Crystal Palace has not been defeated at all, Man Utd must immediately made a major overhaul to their team, this was a huge blow for them, losing 4-0 without reply, really disappointing.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think casinos can stop demanding KYC? on: May 06, 2024, 08:01:25 PM
Casinos existed without the need for KYC's until the government made it a requirement, and they started demanding it. IMO If the government no longer requires casinos to do KYC verification for new gamblers, casinos will go ahead and still do KYC verifications because they have seen the benefits of knowing their customers better than when they just allowed people to come onto their platform and gamble without their knowledge of who they were. What do you think? Do you think some casino's will revert back to non-KYC and allow money launderers, plus other fraudulent people have their easy way with them as a way to attract customers, or since they recognize the personal benefits of KYC to their casino, will continue demanding it even if it affects their customers?

I am not a casino businessman so the answer I will give is just as an ordinary player, in my opinion online casinos will change to not using KYC anymore if the government does not require them to implement KYC, however gambling sites need big money coming in, they will definitely will make it easier for users who carry large amounts of money, without thinking that it is criminal money.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much of my salary should I use to gamble on: May 06, 2024, 07:22:42 PM
Gambling is becoming a popular thing in my locality almost everyone gamble and even colleagues gamble and engage in gambling related discussions at work,  so gambling is legal and very popular so there is no Shame in using part of a salary to gamble with that is why I am asking the question of what the right percentage from my salary that I should use to gamble?

So, now how much income do you have for a month? try to only use 15% or 20% of your income or salary to gamble for a whole month because it is impossible for you to use 50% of your salary or 100% of your salary to gamble, you must be crazy if you do this.

Gambling is a risky activity, unless you have a lot of cold money then there is nothing wrong with putting a lot of money into playing, but if your money is small and you are still a worker then don't gamble excessively.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do casinos require users to verify their identity through a KYC policy? on: May 06, 2024, 06:54:31 PM
I've read a lot of comments in this board stating that a user is required to undergo KYC if their account is suspected of cheating. Can anyone explain how it is necessary related to the subject? A detailed explanation would be better, but everyone's ideas are welcome, as I believe it's worth discussing so gamblers will not be misled regarding this matter, which pops up from time to time.

the answer is simple, currently many governments in several countries have legalized gambling or institutions that supervise gambling businesses are urging online gambling business owners such as casinos or online sportsbooks to implement a KYC system, on the one hand this is good so that players are protected and they have a place to complain but on the other hand On the one hand, this violates privacy rights, I personally don't play on many gambling sites, I only play at places that I'm sure are legit even if they require KYC.
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