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Author Topic: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)  (Read 768256 times)
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May 08, 2024, 01:33:05 PM
 #74201

TeamPoint
Inter
89
Milan
71
Juve
66
Bologna
64
Roma
60
Atalanta
57
Lazio
56
Fiorentina
50
Napoli
50
Torino
47
Monza
45
Genoa
43
Lecce
37
Verona
34
Cagliari
33
Frosinone
32
Empoli
32
Udinese
29
Sassuolo
29
Salernitana
15

last days for serie A, Sassuolo and Udinese is at same points: 29

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May 08, 2024, 01:50:42 PM
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Both Sassuolo and Udinese have kept their chances of getting out of the relegation zone alive. Because all they need is to win one match and the two teams that are above them, Empoli and Frosinone, to lose one match. Suddenly the whole relegation zone is going to change up a lot. But that does seem to be a lot harder to happen. But one team out of those, losing a match and one team from the relegation zone winning is definitely possible.

So I think there is still a chance for at least one team to make it out of the relegation zone and stay in the Serie A. Udinese has a really good chance because they will play against both Empoli and Frosinone. It is going to be interesting to see the outcome of those matches.



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May 08, 2024, 01:59:07 PM
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The initial good start for DeRossi was provided by the calendar - three games in a row with teams from the very bottom of the standings. Then Roma really became better, at least more interesting - they scored a lot and conceded a lot. But the irony is that those who praised Mourinho's sacking suddenly realize that Roma are finishing the season worse than under him  Grin

The high expectations on DeRossi was very alarming but I always wished the team can finish in a better place this season. A sack of a coach and a replacement for him should have collectively made the team finish in a better position than they were before. Mourinho was not a bad choice to me and his sack came as a surprise to me, so I think they should have let him be after a wonderful season with them last year. Even a champions league qualification could have been better. We wait to see how they end the season with three matches left to be played by them.

its obvious roma has lesser chance for europa league or UCL this season. I remind you that if atalanta has 1 unplayed match. It means club can get three points as long as it will win the unplayed match. Roma shall have won all of remaining games to ensure it will have a chance to qualify for the europa league or UCL next season.
It's really sick for all of people who did support mourinho to leave from the club if roma will not able to get into the UCL or europa laegue.
There is only a small possibility and De Rossi must be able to make his club emerge with a winning result in the remaining matches. Atalant has 1 match yet to be played and that makes AS Roma fans worry that if Atalanta wins the match that has not yet been played then there is no hope. For AS Roma to finish in the UEL zone, even for the UCL, they have to get past Atalanta and Bologna first. They have more points than AS Roma. If they don't make mistakes, there is no chance for AS Roma.

It would be very sad if in the end Mourinho's dismissal did not produce good results for AS Roma even though AS Roma fans hope to achieve good results with De Rossi but it is actually the same and worse than last season, indeed coaching a club in the middle of the season is a tough task even De Rossi himself was forced to adapt quickly, which was also not easy for other coaches.

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May 08, 2024, 02:45:47 PM
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It would be very sad if in the end Mourinho's dismissal did not produce good results for AS Roma even though AS Roma fans hope to achieve good results with De Rossi but it is actually the same and worse than last season, indeed coaching a club in the middle of the season is a tough task even De Rossi himself was forced to adapt quickly, which was also not easy for other coaches.
I think As Roma has gotten better since Mourinho left, it's just not that easy to adapt to the new coach De Rossi but so far since being led by De Rossi I think it's been pretty good, it's just that it will take time next season to see As Roma perform even better. , I don't know if the failure at UEL will fire De Rossi or not but they still have a chance to play in UEL next season if they succeed in overthrowing Atalanta and succeed in defeating them this week, hoping that Atalanta will make a mistake.

As Roma looks better since being coached by De Rossi. I think if they have to change coaches again it won't help them perform better next season. I think As Roma should give that opportunity to De Rossi to be able to lead As Roma next season at least. new players to fill the main squad so that it can be better, As Roma still has hope of winning against Leverkusen and also Atalanta, but it all depends on De Rossi arranging a strategy for his team so that they can give a surprise in the UEL or in the remaining Italian league matches this season. I think De Rossi needs another season for As Roma to adapt.

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May 08, 2024, 03:02:34 PM
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Each coach has different tactics and different needs for the players needed in a team. The players recruited by Jose Mourinho are already quite good and it has been proven that De Rossi can continue this to make the team's performance even better.
However, if De Rossi builds the Roma team as he wants from the start, I think this team can be much better and De Rossi has also proven that he is a coach who has good qualities after being able to bring Roma out of its downturn this season.
Regardless of Roma's inconsistent performance at the end of the season like now, I think De Rossi has been quite successful so far and has made Roma's performance better compared to the start of the season when Mourinho still managed him.

I like the coaching style and strategies that De Rossi applies to Roma, so their performance has improved since Jose Mourinho left, but I hope that De Rossi doesn't have the same fate as Jose Mourinho, at the start of coaching Roma, Jose Mourinho looked really good. However, over time, Roma's performance has declined, next season will determine whether De Rossi is the right coach to coach Roma or not at all.



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May 08, 2024, 03:28:29 PM
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De Rossi started it. He is trying to make Roma perform better than this and he knows if they want to keep racing in the top side of the Serie A or playing in the Champions League they will need to buy more and better players. While the budget for Roma is limited buy it seems De Rossi wants to hire Federico Chiesa.
Federico Chiesa is playing for Juventus but he couldn't show a good performance from himself with Allgeri, that's why maybe he agreed to leave. Juventus wants to extend the contract of Federico Chiesa until 2028 but some other teams like Roma are linked to this player.


AS Roma needs more signings if they intends to improve in their performance this season and we know everything comes with a price. The Seria A becomes tougher and we should just calmly comprehend the activities going on in the system. AS Roma signing Daniele De Rossi, was this a good decision from the board? Maybe yes or no but what I do know is, De Rossi is competent and doing his best in first season to bring out the best from AS Roma. As for Federico Chiesa, he's currently the best player Juventus and also Italy, he's skilled with the ball and have accomplished alot during his prime.
In my opinion, the players that have been brought in are much better, of all the lines that were brought in during the Morinho era, they were the players chosen by Morinho so it is not quite possible that As Roma will not be able to make changes, the big possibility is whether De Rossi will be able to bring As Roma to win the Serie  Next season, with the direction given by De Rossi, in my opinion, they will not be able to bring As Roma to the top 4 positions in the class, they often have difficulty in their own rhythm of play.
It's true what you say, all the players selected in the Morinho era were very good, but in my opinion Morinho's strategy was so bad that his squad was unable to provide a very good performance to be able to compete with other teams at that time. When De Rossi was appointed as As Roma coach, everything now looked different in terms of strategy and his playing pattern looked very good in attack and defense. This is a sign that De Rossi has succeeded in reviving As Roma's performance so that they are able to compete with other teams. I am sure that when next season starts again, As Roma will be better in terms of performance and train more consistently with De Rossi. For the top 4 positions, De Rossi will definitely continue to struggle to provide truly reliable strategies and formations for his squad, so that they can achieve victory in every match.

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May 08, 2024, 03:45:46 PM
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De Rossi started it. He is trying to make Roma perform better than this and he knows if they want to keep racing in the top side of the Serie A or playing in the Champions League they will need to buy more and better players. While the budget for Roma is limited buy it seems De Rossi wants to hire Federico Chiesa.
Federico Chiesa is playing for Juventus but he couldn't show a good performance from himself with Allgeri, that's why maybe he agreed to leave. Juventus wants to extend the contract of Federico Chiesa until 2028 but some other teams like Roma are linked to this player.
Roma also has a chance of being left without the Champions League next season, I don’t know how important this is for Chiesa, but leaving the team given this is not the best decision. In addition, Juventus does not want to let Chiesa go and planned to extend his contract next year. Although if we evaluate Chiesa’s results based on his position, considering that he played 33 matches for Juventus and scored only 8 goals, then this is not so much, but since Juventus’ attacking potential is already weak, they will not want to lose Chiesa.

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May 08, 2024, 03:49:45 PM
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It would be very sad if in the end Mourinho's dismissal did not produce good results for AS Roma even though AS Roma fans hope to achieve good results with De Rossi but it is actually the same and worse than last season, indeed coaching a club in the middle of the season is a tough task even De Rossi himself was forced to adapt quickly, which was also not easy for other coaches.
I think As Roma has gotten better since Mourinho left, it's just not that easy to adapt to the new coach De Rossi but so far since being led by De Rossi I think it's been pretty good, it's just that it will take time next season to see As Roma perform even better. , I don't know if the failure at UEL will fire De Rossi or not but they still have a chance to play in UEL next season if they succeed in overthrowing Atalanta and succeed in defeating them this week, hoping that Atalanta will make a mistake.

As Roma looks better since being coached by De Rossi. I think if they have to change coaches again it won't help them perform better next season. I think As Roma should give that opportunity to De Rossi to be able to lead As Roma next season at least. new players to fill the main squad so that it can be better, As Roma still has hope of winning against Leverkusen and also Atalanta, but it all depends on De Rossi arranging a strategy for his team so that they can give a surprise in the UEL or in the remaining Italian league matches this season. I think De Rossi needs another season for As Roma to adapt.
It will be impossible for Roma to qualify to the finals, because Leverkusen are more mean and desperate to win Europa this season. Let De Rossi think more of surviving on their domestic league to see if it will be possible for them to be in UCL next season or Europa, because that is where will determine the competition they will be playing next season in Europe. De Rossi has shown that he can do better next season if he is given the opportunity, by the way he revived the club after he took over from the former manager Mourinho.

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May 08, 2024, 04:08:40 PM
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It will be impossible for Roma to qualify to the finals, because Leverkusen are more mean and desperate to win Europa this season. Let De Rossi think more of surviving on their domestic league to see if it will be possible for them to be in UCL next season or Europa, because that is where will determine the competition they will be playing next season in Europe. De Rossi has shown that he can do better next season if he is given the opportunity, by the way he revived the club after he took over from the former manager Mourinho.
It is impossible as you said but luck does happen sometimes in football just as we have seen how the highly rated PSG got eliminated yesterday in the UEFA Champions League by an underrated semifinalist Dortmund. Although Roma’s case is different since Leverkusen has already won the first leg match away from home, and winning Roma at home will be an easy task for them.
De Rossi is trying as Roma’s head coach, I think if he is given more time, he can do better because he have good tactics that can lead Roma to the limelight. I think the team need to be patient and played but in another Europa League next season since getting to the fourth position will be difficult for them.

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May 08, 2024, 04:09:36 PM
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I like the coaching style and strategies that De Rossi applies to Roma, so their performance has improved since Jose Mourinho left, but I hope that De Rossi doesn't have the same fate as Jose Mourinho, at the start of coaching Roma, Jose Mourinho looked really good. However, over time, Roma's performance has declined, next season will determine whether De Rossi is the right coach to coach Roma or not at all.
The current coach have slim possibilities of heightend the club's status and we know what it exactly means for them. Roma have failed to meet up the standard requirements of elite team, though they will continue to push for excellent result. AS Roma former coach, José Mourinho was listed among the favorite coach to bring the very best for AS Roma and till date, they've always been a challenging coach for titles. Atleast he lifted the club's first Conference league Cup for them.



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May 08, 2024, 04:13:12 PM
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The initial good start for DeRossi was provided by the calendar - three games in a row with teams from the very bottom of the standings. Then Roma really became better, at least more interesting - they scored a lot and conceded a lot. But the irony is that those who praised Mourinho's sacking suddenly realize that Roma are finishing the season worse than under him  Grin

Wins are all wins and whoever they won don't matter as much as all you do is win. If he had lost to these three low profiled clubs in Seria A Competition, he wouldn't have had peace of mind, infact people don't appreciate you for what you do so I understand perfectly.

Even if they won against a small side, they played a much more better and beautiful football than the one we watched when Jose Mourinho was head coach of this same club. No arguments he won them the European Conference League Competition in his first season and didn't get enough backing but these are same players handled by Jose Mourinho? He needs to take a rest from football for sometime in my opinion.

For the game remaining, I do think they will share points with Atalanta during the next game as they'll be facing themselves and for the next two games to round it up 38games? As Roma should also emerge winners from.these two. It's either a win for them because they'll still be in one of these European Competitions next season. What I know is that, they're most likely to get better next season.

I understand that people actually became really hopeful and were also expecting a lot from the new coach as soon as he was made the coach and was able to win three matches or four matches in a row if I recall correctly. I think people are actually forgetting the fact that those matches were not as hard as they could have gotten in this season.

I also understand that a win is a win. But there is definitely a difference between winning against Inter and winning against Salernitana. I hope you understand what I am trying to say.

Anyway, the bottom line is, the coach has not had a long time with the team. that’s why I think we should give him more time. So far what he has shown, has definitely not been a big improvement compared to what it was before he came in as the coach. Maybe with time, he will be able to bring in better results. But if they are able to at least finish in a position from where they will be able to take part in European competition next season, it is going to be a bit of a motivation for them.

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May 08, 2024, 04:29:10 PM
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It will be impossible for Roma to qualify to the finals, because Leverkusen are more mean and desperate to win Europa this season. Let De Rossi think more of surviving on their domestic league to see if it will be possible for them to be in UCL next season or Europa, because that is where will determine the competition they will be playing next season in Europe. De Rossi has shown that he can do better next season if he is given the opportunity, by the way he revived the club after he took over from the former manager Mourinho.
Difficult for Roma qualify to Europe League final after defeating on first leg as home match over 2-0 and not easy defeating Bayern Leverkusen keep unbeaten team reach up to 48 matches all competition. Roma get not good condition currently after losing points in domestic league and defeated first leg match in Europe League, has four points remaining and other side not only Roma race with top fourth position but also Atalanta has the same opportunity behind have 60 points of the same with Roma's points.

If get failure for qualifying to final round of Europe League, Roma must return to focus on domestic league match behind few matches left for securing top forth position standings. Its too long for Roma not participants in UEFA Champion League behind they are most historical team in Serie A.

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May 08, 2024, 04:47:22 PM
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I like the coaching style and strategies that De Rossi applies to Roma, so their performance has improved since Jose Mourinho left, but I hope that De Rossi doesn't have the same fate as Jose Mourinho, at the start of coaching Roma, Jose Mourinho looked really good. However, over time, Roma's performance has declined, next season will determine whether De Rossi is the right coach to coach Roma or not at all.
The current coach have slim possibilities of heightend the club's status and we know what it exactly means for them. Roma have failed to meet up the standard requirements of elite team, though they will continue to push for excellent result. AS Roma former coach, José Mourinho was listed among the favorite coach to bring the very best for AS Roma and till date, they've always been a challenging coach for titles. Atleast he lifted the club's first Conference league Cup for them.

Indeed, Mourinho managed to deliver the Conference League trophy for AS Roma but anyway, the reality is that Mourinho still failed in Serie A. Also about De Rossi, who lately seems to be experiencing a decline in consistency, but at least De Rossi managed to make a rapid improvement to AS Roma's performance and results in Serie A. But perhaps also, because of the increasingly difficult schedule and opponents lately in Serie A and in the Europa League, making De Rossi failed to make consistent performance of AS Roma. But even so, at least there is still a chance for AS Roma to get a Champion League ticket even though indeed, it will not be easy to compete with Atalanta but still, whatever the result is still possible to happen because they still have a chance.

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May 08, 2024, 05:17:53 PM
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It will be impossible for Roma to qualify to the finals, because Leverkusen are more mean and desperate to win Europa this season. Let De Rossi think more of surviving on their domestic league to see if it will be possible for them to be in UCL next season or Europa, because that is where will determine the competition they will be playing next season in Europe. De Rossi has shown that he can do better next season if he is given the opportunity, by the way he revived the club after he took over from the former manager Mourinho.
Difficult for Roma qualify to Europe League final after defeating on first leg as home match over 2-0 and not easy defeating Bayern Leverkusen keep unbeaten team reach up to 48 matches all competition. Roma get not good condition currently after losing points in domestic league and defeated first leg match in Europe League, has four points remaining and other side not only Roma race with top fourth position but also Atalanta has the same opportunity behind have 60 points of the same with Roma's points.

If get failure for qualifying to final round of Europe League, Roma must return to focus on domestic league match behind few matches left for securing top forth position standings. Its too long for Roma not participants in UEFA Champion League behind they are most historical team in Serie A.
It is indeed very difficult to catch up with the 2 goals they lost in the first leg and that happened at their own home. Now they will play as a visiting team, and we know how terrible Leverkusen is, so to get through to the final is not an easy thing for them to do. It's not impossible, but it will be difficult to beat Leverkusen, who have performed extraordinary this season.

IN Serie A, the 2 draws they achieved in the last 2 matches means they are in 5th place with the same points as Atalanta, but Atalanta still has 1 match ahead. The last 3 matches they have will determine whether they will be able to be in the top 5 or not. Not only that, because they will also hope that something bad happens to Atalanta in their match. Because if Atalanta can wipe out the remaining matches they have, then it is certain that AS Roma will not be able to be in 5th position at the end of the standings.

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May 08, 2024, 05:18:02 PM
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Indeed, Mourinho managed to deliver the Conference League trophy for AS Roma but anyway, the reality is that Mourinho still failed in Serie A. Also about De Rossi, who lately seems to be experiencing a decline in consistency, but at least De Rossi managed to make a rapid improvement to AS Roma's performance and results in Serie A. But perhaps also, because of the increasingly difficult schedule and opponents lately in Serie A and in the Europa League, making De Rossi failed to make consistent performance of AS Roma. But even so, at least there is still a chance for AS Roma to get a Champion League ticket even though indeed, it will not be easy to compete with Atalanta but still, whatever the result is still possible to happen because they still have a chance.

This may come as a surprise to you, but the fact that Roma still has a chance to get into the Champions League is largely due to Mourinho, who won the Conference League and then led Roma to the Europa League final. This greatly raised Italy's ranking in UEFA and allowed it to receive the 5th ticket.
In the old Champions League format, the season would have been over for Roma a long time ago, since the 5th place would have no meaning.

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May 08, 2024, 05:30:43 PM
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The current coach have slim possibilities of heightend the club's status and we know what it exactly means for them. Roma have failed to meet up the standard requirements of elite team, though they will continue to push for excellent result. AS Roma former coach, José Mourinho was listed among the favorite coach to bring the very best for AS Roma and till date, they've always been a challenging coach for titles. Atleast he lifted the club's first Conference league Cup for them.
The coach is one of the main factors in achieving success a team, although he does not have much experience but at least the coach is able to lift the morale and mentality of his players, besides that strategic and tactical maneuvers as well as good training patterns are certainly important factors that must be owned by a coach, we can see how Xavi and Xabi can build Barcelona and Leverkusen well because with intelligence and experience or the knowledge he gained as a player, while De Rossi I think he is also starting to go in a better direction although it is not as good as Xavi and Xabi are doing at the moment.

I think we can't compare Mourinho and De Rossi at the moment, although mourinho was sacked because he was considered unsuccessful at Roma but although I think for now De Rossi can go in a better direction because of all Mourinho legacy in Rome, besides that I think Mourinho has more advantages because he is more senior than De Rossi in coaching a team so far,  So it is better for us to see how much De Rossi is capable of bringing Roma this season than we have to keep remember about what Mourinho has given  for Roma so far.

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May 08, 2024, 05:41:07 PM
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I think we can't compare Mourinho and De Rossi at the moment, although mourinho was sacked because he was considered unsuccessful at Roma but although I think for now De Rossi can go in a better direction because of all Mourinho legacy in Rome, besides that I think Mourinho has more advantages because he is more senior than De Rossi in coaching a team so far,  So it is better for us to see how much De Rossi is capable of bringing Roma this season than we have to keep remember about what Mourinho has given  for Roma so far.

Even though Mourinho is a failed, at least he has given Roma the UEFA conference league trophy. Of course i know it is UEFA's lowest level competition trophy, but become a champion is still a title which is a part of success achieved by coaches and players. Mourinho failed to fix AS Roma in Serie A, but Mourinho has written his name in the history of the UEFA conference league competition already.

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This week there will be two decisive matches for Roma, one of which must complete the second leg against Leverkusen in the European league and after that they still have to face Atalanta in the fight for a place in next season's champions league. It is clear that Roma's situation is so pressing with this tough schedule that they have to play totally without reducing anything.

De Rossi has done well for the rest of the season after replacing Mourinho and could even put Roma in contention for European competition. If it weren't for De Rossi, Roma would definitely have difficulty being in their current position. I still believe De Rossi will open a wide path for a more competitive journey for Roma in the future.
I am pretty sure that they are going to lose the Leverkusen game anyway, they should not really care about that game all that much because they are not going to go there at all. I am not sure about the champions league though? Is it because the cup game or something?

I think they are fighting for the europa league and not champions leage, no? If that is the case then they should definitely play their hearts out because Atalanta will definitely do that, while Atalanta also has their own game to play against Marseille as well so both teams are in semi-similar situations if you ask me and mean a lot to win that much money from UCL next season. There is like 30 million euros or so to be made from being in the group stages of UCL so both teams would benefit highly from that kind of money.

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May 08, 2024, 07:19:31 PM
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For me, the draw that Udinese played with Napoli yesterday night is a good result for Udinese. Napoli was the favorite to win against Udinese, but the match turned out to end in a draw. This draw will boost Udinese chances of escaping relegation if they can win two matches out of their three remaining matches in the league. A loss could have been bad for Udinese because it would have given them fewer chances to escape relegation this season.

Yeah the draw was indeed good for Udinese because right now they now have total of 30 points and even if they are on the relegation zone now they have chance of shifting away from the relegation if they are more consistent as their match against Napoli they will win  all their remaining matches, however is still a little surprise to see that as strong as Napoli who is currently leading the 8 position of the table will be inconsistent to allow Udinese that is almost at the bottom of the table hold them to a draw when they actually had the opportunity of winning, it was actually bad for Napoli because they would have gotten a very close points with Lazio if they had win but now they are still far behind Lazio.

For Udinese to be consistent enough to hold Napoli to a draw I will not be surprised if they win Empoli on their meeting because Empoli is also not in a good shape so perhaps considering their 2 points different if Udinese will be consistent enough to win them then they may likely move out from the relegation zone.

Udinese is going to play against Lecce,Empoli and Frosinone in the next three matches that are remaining for them in this season. if we look at that, we will see they will play against the two teams that are right above them and if they are able to beat one of those teams, I think there is a great chance for them to actually get out of the relegation zone. And if they are able to beat both of them, it is obviously going to be an incredible result for Udinese.

However, that is definitely going to be really hard. But I believe they have the capability to win at least one of them and avoid losses in the other two. That means five points for them. But it is going to be really good if they are able to beat either Empoli or Frosinone. That is going to give them the biggest chance of getting out of the relegation zone. And I think if they are capable of getting one point against Napoli, they are capable of winning against one of those two teams.

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The current coach have slim possibilities of heightend the club's status and we know what it exactly means for them. Roma have failed to meet up the standard requirements of elite team, though they will continue to push for excellent result. AS Roma former coach, José Mourinho was listed among the favorite coach to bring the very best for AS Roma and till date, they've always been a challenging coach for titles. Atleast he lifted the club's first Conference league Cup for them.
The coach is one of the main factors in achieving success a team, although he does not have much experience but at least the coach is able to lift the morale and mentality of his players, besides that strategic and tactical maneuvers as well as good training patterns are certainly important factors that must be owned by a coach, we can see how Xavi and Xabi can build Barcelona and Leverkusen well because with intelligence and experience or the knowledge he gained as a player, while De Rossi I think he is also starting to go in a better direction although it is not as good as Xavi and Xabi are doing at the moment.

I think we can't compare Mourinho and De Rossi at the moment, although mourinho was sacked because he was considered unsuccessful at Roma but although I think for now De Rossi can go in a better direction because of all Mourinho legacy in Rome, besides that I think Mourinho has more advantages because he is more senior than De Rossi in coaching a team so far,  So it is better for us to see how much De Rossi is capable of bringing Roma this season than we have to keep remember about what Mourinho has given  for Roma so far.

The fun fact about Jose Mourinho is we know he got the knowledge and he could make a change in Roma, he was maybe the best coach in the world after the performance we saw from him when he was working at Inter Milan or Porto. But we should accept that Mourinho didn't have a good performance in Roma even after the chance they gave him. While the young coach of Roma, De Rossi, who has not experienced enough and is not a famous coach like Mourinho had a perfect performance so far and he is about to make Roma get the Champions League ticket.

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