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621  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Menguji Netralitas Presiden di Pemilu on: November 17, 2023, 09:36:43 PM
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...Jokowi pasti akan mendukung anaknya dan bahkan memungkinkan juga untuk ia melakukan beberapa cara agar anaknya bisa menang di pemuli nanti (saya berpikir demikian karena ia telah melakuka n hal yang sama sebelumnya ketika merubah peraturan batasan umur untuk bisa Gibran maju sebagai cawapres).
Bukankah dari apa yang telah terjadi sekarang ini, tidak salah jikalau banyak orang tidak mempercayai kalau Jokowi akan bersikap netral.
Dalam 20 tahun terakhir incumbet sulit dikalahkan, oligarki politik indonesia bukan lagi hal yang biasa, kini munculnya dua kandidat dari penguasa pemilu 2024 makin hangat diperbicarakan, dan sulit kita nyatakan netral karna orang-orangnya didalamnya mempunyai peran penting dalam menyukseskan pemilu, Dari Bawaslu sampai bawahan dan KPU samapai bawahan semua ada titipan sehingga nantinya susah kita bilang netral ditambah lagi ASN yang punya kepentingan besar setelah terpilih pemenang, janji-janji politik itu selalu ada. saatnya ada tim independen yang berdiri sendiri untuk memantau jalannya pesta demokrasi di negeri ini baru sedikit netral, dan tim independen tersebut harus berani mengungkapkan secara fakta.

jika ada tim independen yang benar benar berani mengungkapkan kecurangan dan pelanggaran - pelanggaran berat yang kemungkinan akan di lakukan para ASN - PNS - Pejabat maka indonesia pasti sudah menjadi negara maju hahaha, lihat saja bagaimana KPK sekarang ini, pada akhirnya justru KPK lah yang menjadi makelar kasus korupsi, para pejabat yang terpilih rata2 adalah kawan semua, jadi tidka mungkin kawan saling memakan apalagi ada banyak titipan2 yang harus di jaga. di pemilu tahun depan kita pasti akan melihat banyak drama lagi namun saya yakin tidak akan separah pemilu lalu, untuk mengalahkan oligarki yang sekarang maka itu bukan perkara mudah.
622  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is it difficult for people to get capital easily? on: November 17, 2023, 09:14:00 PM
I realize it is difficult but ask yourself again. This is not a very difficult thing in terms of earning but how do we collect it little by little from our work salary that we set aside. If we want to get large capital quickly of course it will be difficult. learn to start frugality and save for the future.
Saving and arranging capital isn't a problem for people who earn well, have their businesses, and aren't employed and earn a minimum wage which is barely enough for them to complete the monthly expenses of their household. Such people sometimes have to borrow money to complete the expenses for the whole month and then worry about repaying that debt with whatever they earn or maybe get some bonus once or twice a year or something.

So, for someone to be able to get capital, they must either have a high-paying job, a personal business that earns good revenue, or more than one income sources so that they can spend money on their personal expenditures and still have money left behind that they can save for their capital.

That's right, I once tried to borrow money from the bank and they advised me to have a business first so that the capital could be easily spent. I'm sure that in all countries, bank rules are the same, the borrower must have a visible physical business, if it's only online then it's doubtful you'll get business loan capital. However, there are also several cases where the borrower gets collateral from someone who has a little capital in the bank. I know this because there is a friend of mine who got capital from the bank with a guarantee from his uncle who has a large deposit in the bank.
623  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to verified My Binance Account? on: November 17, 2023, 08:50:53 PM
I want to verify my exchange account.
Many people will say that you can verify by searching YouTube or Google but I am not interested in that.
I want to learn from our experienced and senior brothers in this forum and know how to get my Binance account verified easily and quickly.

I want your advice.

Honestly, getting a verified account on Binance isn't complicated, you just need to download the Binance application via your smartphone (don't register on the website because it's easier to get a verified account on the smartphone application). After that, you will be directed to verify your account first before you can make a deposit or withdraw assets in your account. The process doesn't take long, I only waited about 3 hours because at that time my internet network was quite chaotic, you will be directed to fill in your personal data and take part in facial verification. good luck.
624  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Bagaimana sih melawan rasa malas on: November 17, 2023, 08:27:15 PM
Iya kadang saya juga suka malas banget untuk melakukan kegiatan/pekerjaan,tapi saya suka berpikir lagi jika tidak dipaksakan ini pekerjaan gak akan beres,nah menurut saya pribadi sih melawan rasa malas ini yaitu melawan diri kita sendiri untuk bersemangat.

ada pepatah bagus yang bisa mengatakan bahwa menguasai diri sendiri adalah kekuatan sejati, rasa malas itu muncul dari dalam diri kita sendiri, itu artinya rasa malasa tersebut tercipta bukan karena sebab akibat dari orang lain, semua orang pasti punya rasa malas namun motivasi tiap tiap orang untuk menghilangkan rasa malas nya itu berbeda beda, seperti yang sudah saya katakan di atas, kalo saya sih akan mendoktrin otak saya bahwa esok mungkin saja adalah hari yang berat maka itu saya akan kembali merasa semangat, sering juga malas itu terjadi karena kita terjebak dalam zona nyaman, kenali diri sendiri dan hancurkan rasa malas tersebut, ingat setiap detik sangat berharga.
625  Economy / Economics / Re: Elon Musk and others urge AI pause, citing 'risks to society' on: November 17, 2023, 01:25:43 PM
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Risks must be correctly managed and there must be some kind of security protocols to avoid damage that chatgpt and others can do.

One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?

ChatGPT is an AI program developed by one of the world's largest companies and all kinds of profits resulting from this program will definitely go into the developer's pockets, so it is impossible for ChatGPT to have its own bitcoin, because the program means it cannot buy. artificial intelligence cannot create money on its own, if they could then they would already have their own thoughts, but I wonder whether in the future when humanoid robots are fully developed, will they be able to buy bitcoins because their intelligence will definitely be on par with humans, maybe even more!!
626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme. on: November 17, 2023, 12:44:18 PM
Bitcoin right now probably can't make you rich, but it can help give a good boost to your net worth — obviously due to price appreciation, and depreciation of fiat currencies.

Bitcoin isn't a get rich quick scheme, it's a not-get-poorer scheme.

You are absolutely right, if we only store our wealth in fiat money then we will spend more money for each item we buy, but unlike bitcoin, the price continues to increase so there is a big possibility that you will continue to increase your net wealth if you only invest your funds in Bitcoin. People who think that bitcoin will make them rich in a short time or overnight are very stupid beginners, they will never be able to get it, they will fail before they can even make a profit from the bitcoin purchase they made at the beginning.
627  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Fenomena BISNIS DITUTUP[Diskusi] on: November 17, 2023, 11:47:21 AM
Ada banyak tempat yang aku lewati di daerah sekitar ku diantaranya yang menutup usahanya, bahkan dikota yang cukup besar (waktu dulu) sekarang sepi pengunjung, awalnya ku kira itu karna masalah keuangan, persaingan pasar yang ketat, perubahan kondisi ekonomi, manajemen yang tidak efektif, atau bahkan perubahan minat pribadi.

 Setelah aku mencari data dilapangan ngobar (tukar pikiran dengan yang lain) membahas Fenomena ini.
Sekarang aku menemukan jawabannya yaitu karena orang-orang sekarang kurang mampu membeli apa yang dia mau.
Banyak sebab diantaranya: kesulitan mendapatkan uang, bubar dari kerjaan, pengeluaran tak sesuai penghasilan, dan masih banyak lagi.

Bagaimanakah memecahkan masalah yang lumayan serius ini?

Marilah kita diskusikan fenomena ini, dan semoga menemukan titik terang.


Dan terimakasih kepada yang mau memperbaiki.

iya gan, orang orang sekarang ini banyak yang ngeluh semakin sulit dapetin uang, saya juga sih merasakan hal yang sama, saya kan jualan olshop ni namun beberapa bulan terakhir penjualan saya menurun drastis, kalo saya gak punya penghasilan sampingan lainnya mungkin saya bisa kesulitan mendapatkan uang. sebenarnya cara untuk meramaikan kembali usaha yang sudah pernah ramai hanya dengan satu cara yaitu dengan melakukan promo, banyak yang sudah membuktikan bahwa cara ini sangat efektif untuk merangsang pembeli, seperti yang sekarnag ini di lakukan oleh mcdonald dan KFC, karena ada isu boikot produk merkea, maka mereka melakukan promo potongan harga 50% dan terbukti cukup efektif untuk mempertahankan pelanggan mereka.
628  Economy / Economics / Re: The Thailand government will distribute money to its citizens. Economists critic on: November 17, 2023, 09:03:00 AM
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That temporal limit is what worries me the most, governments giving ‘free’ money to their citizens once in a while is incredibly common so it should not be surprising at all.

However over the years there have been talks about governments around the world putting a time limit to the currency that you earn, and once that time passes then it can not be used any longer, and this is a huge threat as in essence governments will be making saving money an impossible activity, which will have huge implications about how the world economy has to be run.

saving is really just a waste of time, the fiat money we get now will not necessarily sell in the next 10 years, so if you get fiat money now, only use it for investment (buy gold or bitcoin), every few years, inflation causes us to have to spend more money to buy a product while our income does not increase. The Thai government may see that currently giving free money to their population is effective but in the long term it is completely ineffective.
629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you gamble till old age or not on: November 16, 2023, 11:49:46 PM
if we gamble responsibly then we will not experience gambling addiction, responsible gamblers have a time limit and budget to stop at any time while addiction cannot be stopped suddenly have to use a slightly longer process, but we can prevent the addiction from occurring.
now so that when we are old we don't gamble continuously due to addiction, but there is no prohibition against gambling in old age as long as they can afford it because maybe the goal is just for entertainment and to repeat their youth when they were with their friends.
I myself don't know for sure whether I will still gamble when I'm old because even now I rarely use gambling such as slots or other types of casinos, but if I think about it seems I won't gamble when I'm old maybe 40 or older because my interest in the world of gambling is not that high.

Gambling in Chinese culture is a medium for testing luck and also as a means of sharpening the brain, so don't be surprised if we see Chinese people who are 60 years old and still gamble a lot, they claim that if they gamble their brain will slow down, I think it's quite funny when I heard that sentence, but personally I will probably stop gambling at the age of 50, and will focus more on my family and grandchildren in the future.
630  Economy / Economics / Re: Is academic pursues enough to get incomes? on: November 16, 2023, 11:18:56 PM
Agree with you, despite of having so many degree, what is the value of that degree where people are unemployed. A man certainly needs academic education but he must be involved in service in some way or else he will fail in leading his life. That is, if he cannot show himself in any economic work, then he will not get the real value of that education. A student must set his own goals by deciding in advance what he will do and what he will focus on after his studies. It should be remembered that education rate is increasing all over the world but employment has not increased accordingly. Of course academic degree is required but it never guarantees money income.

That's why we have to be self employed. We can't rely on the government anymore. I have seen many multiple degree holders to try and get a decent job. But no success. Later they same person made a business of his and became a entreprener. It was hard, he had to start small, build everything from scratch but he was successful at the end. Rather than relying on your government or degree we should rely on our skills. That's why a student should always obtain other set of skills along with his skills. That way, he won't be left away.

Everyone has their own way of life, it is not possible for everyone in this world to be self-employed, there must also be a balance so that competition can be controlled well, but education is still very important, you will not be able to earn decent money if you don't have a degree. good and also broad knowledge, however knowledge is a strong weapon for people to be able to face all the possibilities that occur in life. Being a government worker isn't too bad, but if you hope to get rich from the jobs provided by the government, you have to throw that desire away because it will never happen.
631  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dump market potential? on: November 16, 2023, 10:50:19 PM
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Some people are saying there is possibility that third world war has begun, but which I will not believe for it not to affect my bitcoin investment.
This will not happen anymore, that's for my own opinion.
And just in case it happens, Bitcoin will not get affected or it will dump. As you can see, Bitcoin is a worldwide acceptable currency, so I can assume that no dumping effect on it because no one will attack Bitcoin, Bitcoin for sure will be just used by the majority.

If the third world war happens, is it safe to keep money in the bank or gold at home? of course not, meanwhile if when a war happens we save bitcoin as a protector of the value of our money (the impact of war will not dump the price of bitcoin), that actually benefits us a lot, we can save the bitcoin we have wherever it is. Bitcoin is the best investment asset at the moment, as long as you keep your wallet password and private key well then you don't need to worry about anything that will happen in this world, just go to a safe place then your Bitcoin will be safe with you on your smartphone or in your hardware wallet.
632  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Disadvantage of bitcoin on: November 16, 2023, 10:32:57 PM
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Now my question is, do you think losing all of one’s coins simply because they didn’t have access to their wallet or key is already enough disadvantage for bitcoin against the local banks ?

In my opinion, the system that Bitcoin wallets have is the best, just like the physical wallet that you have, if you lose it it will be difficult to find it again, the sentence "make sure you back up your wallet" is actually quite clear in explaining that you are Sir for the money you have, don't carelessly save the passwords and private keys you have. If you are lazy about storing your Bitcoin wallet's private key in a hardware or software wallet, then save it as a paper wallet and then store it in a safe that is not accessible to thieves and hackers.
633  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How much was the price of Bitcoin when you started trading? on: November 16, 2023, 10:05:31 PM
Let's take a stroll down memory lane and reminisce about the early days of our crypto journeys. It's fascinating to see how far we've come since we first stepped into the world of cryptocurrencies.

The question today is how much was the price of Bitcoin when you started trading?

I am not an active trader but I still really remember the first time I tried trading Bitcoin around July 2017, at that time the price of Bitcoin was still around $2000, at that time I only tried to put money around $100 but then I immediately withdrew everything because at that time I couldn't make a profit, I only made a loss, I still remember that the money I withdrew was around $60, and to this day I still really regret what I did, if I had survived at that time I might have had a lot of Bitcoin because that was the price at that time it was still cheap.
634  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Berani mengambil resiko apakah salah satu tindakan menuju sukses on: November 16, 2023, 09:38:37 PM
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Melakukan investasi dengan menggunakan dana yang menganggur dengan mengunakan dana dari penghasilan yang kita miliki tentu akan sangat berbeda, jika kita memilih untuk menggunakan penghasilan yang kita miliki pasti investasi yang kita lakukan akan terganggu ketika tiba-tiba kita mengalami keperluan yang tidak kita duga tentu akan mengambil dana yang telah kita investasikan tersebut dan jika kita melakukan investasi dengan dana yang menganggur maka dapat dipastikan kita telah menyiapkan dana yang akan kita investasikan tersebut tidak akan mempengaruhi investasi yang kita lakukan.

Mengambil resiko dalam investasi memang tidak ada salahnya namun kita harus memahami dengan baik sebelum kita membuat keputusan dalam resiko yang akan kita ambil dan jangan sampai kita mengambil resiko tidak berdasatkan pengetahuan yang kita miliki karena hal tersebut akan membaut kita mengalami kerugian dalam melakukan investasi.
Tiap-tiap orang tentunya mempunyai perencanaan dan tujuan keuangan yang berbeda-beda. Sangat penting sebelum melakukan investasi kita harus mempertimbangkan beberapa faktor lain sebelum menaruh uangnya pada suatu instrumen investasi. itu sebabnya sangatlah penting untuk mengetahui dan memahami profil resiko kita sebelum nyemplung di dunia investasi yang penuh dengan ketidakpastian, gunanya untuk mengukur level toleransi kita terhadap ketidakpastian itu sendiri.

seperti yang sudah saya tuliskan di postingan atas, bahwa berinvestasi itu harus dengan kehati hatian, ceroboh sedikit hanya akan membuat rugi bukan nya untung, memahami profil resiko adalah hal yang sangat penting jika ingin setidaknya aman saat berinvestasi, jangan sampai kita sendiri tidak tahu apakah kita mampu mengkover pengeluaran kita selama proses investasi kita sedang berjalan. jika anda memiliki penghasilan stabil lainnya di luar sana, tentu saja investasi yang anda lakukan pasti akan menenangkan pikiran anda namun jika anda tidak memiliki penghasilan yang stabil di luar sana, sulit untuk anda bisa berinvestasi dengan tenang, anda pasti akan kepikiran cepat untung dan menarik seluruh uang unutk mengkover semua biaya hidup anda.
635  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency is the second most popular investment in "France" on: November 16, 2023, 09:15:59 PM
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This Is probably a very good decision of young generation to adopt the cryptocurrency assets as part of investment. The propensity of cryptocurrency as an investment is increasing day by day. Well, i think those days are not so far when everybody will talk about "investment in cryptocurrency."


I'm not really surprised by the results of these statistical data, well we all know that cryptocurrencies are really attracting the world's attention at the moment, many young people understand cryptocurrencies better than stocks or other investments such as property and so on. Francis is one of the countries that has young people with good thinking, so they will definitely prefer investing in cryptocurrencies. Apart from that, the financial literacy of Francis' young people is quite good, hopefully more and more young people around the world will invest in Bitcoin and altcoins.
636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 16, 2023, 07:22:26 PM
I don't think Lyon can beat Lille in such condition. I mean they had huge difficulties in doing that even while they were having a better season previously. Lille were the better playing side in that game but Lyon still won by 1-0 home. But now the situation is really worrisome for Lyon. That win over Rennes wasn't even easy one.

Because despite Rennes' getting a very early red card Lyon still had big difficulties. They even let the game become more balanced in the second half. I can't trust this Lyon for betting as a result. But I wouldn't bet on Lille either as a similar scenario might happen and it would find me.  Grin

win against Rennes was Lyon's first win since this season started and the conditions were quite worrying, especially as you said, Rennes played with 10 players from the 5th minute but Lyon was unable to score more than one goal in that match. It seems that Lyon's hopes of getting out of the relegation zone will be very difficult, if they are not able to improve the quality of their game, Lyon played quite well last season, they even managed to stop in 7th position, but this season they failed to maintain the consistency of their performance.
637  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: [Poll] Partai Pemenang Pemilu pada tahun 2024 on: November 16, 2023, 06:47:40 PM
Menurut saudaraku Bagaimana cara efektif kampanye supaya memperoleh suara masyarakat Indonesia?

sulit untuk menjawab pertanyaan agan ini, bagaimanapun partai itu ibarat produk yang di senangi orang orang dan saat ini partai PDIP sangat di senangi banyak orang di berbagai daerah apalagi di jawa tengah dan jawa timur yang merupakan basis besar dari pendukung partai banteng ini. lihat saja bagaimana kondisi politik indonesia saat ini, ada berapa banyak partai yang di gemari orang orang, bahkan partai yang tergolong baru pun sulit untuk mendapatkan perhatian masyarakat luas seperti PSI, untuk PSI saya lihat langkah mereka cukup pintar karena menggandeng anak dari pak jokowi untuk maju menjadi KETUM, lambat laun terlihat jelas sih pengaruh dari partai ini bahkan di daerah saya tinggal ada banyak spanduk tentang kaesang dan PSI yang bertebaran, nampaknya untuk sebuah partai menjadi besar, mereka harus menggandeng orang orang berpengaruh di indonesia dulu sih baru kemudian mendapatkan perhatian dari masyarakat.
638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you guys believe in other people luck and try to copy them? on: November 16, 2023, 06:07:56 PM
I've tried this several times (try to imitate the style of play, starting time to bet and also someone's betting capital), but we can't copy and paste someone else's luck into ourselves (even if we do the same step-by-step as he or she did), So I think it's better for us to look for our own luck, and play every gambling game we do with our own decisions and thoughts. Every person is unique and identical as is the luck they have and that is something that cannot be imitated.
639  Economy / Economics / Re: Boycotting iSrAEl's product? think again. on: November 16, 2023, 04:27:53 PM
Here I do disagree if this is done. Because it will have an impact on the balance of the economy.
Especially in the lower middle class.
Don't you think that some of your neighbors and even relatives work at that company?

If I look at the boycott carried out by several communities around the world of products that reportedly support Israel, I am reminded of how the European Union boycotted products originating from Russia because of the war with Ukraine, in fact, the boycott was just an act that was too excessive, on the one hand, it was not at all effective in reducing the war between Palestine vs Israel, in fact, there will be more and more people in trouble because of the boycott of several products originating from America, in my city even KFC and McDonald's are giving 50% discounts on several types of food they provide, it is all to cover possible losses that they could receive.
640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some rich person not interest about bitcoin for following reason on: November 15, 2023, 10:55:19 PM
A friend of mine is not interested in buying Bitcoin even after learning about it.
Because according to him Bitcoin is a small number of people who have a lot of Bitcoin. They can easily go down on the bitcoin market if they want to.
Example: Cz. Craig wright & Michel Sailor etc.

Looking forward to the well thought out opinion of the experienced in this regard.


I have read your post over and over again but can't find what is actually the essence of your question here!  one thing you have to understand, it will be calmer if you only take care of your own life, you may be very good to your friend but will it run smoothly in the future, let him not believe and buy bitcoin as long as you believe and buy bitcoin then you have supported bitcoin to continue to exist. Later, when the price of bitcoin has passed $100k, I'm sure your friend will really regret his distrust of bitcoin.
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