Capitalism requires unfounded remote ownership a la Property is Theft. Define "unfounded." I'll give some examples. Grain rotting in a silo. A field left unplowed. A castle waiting for a soon-to-return-noble in the crusades. A locked dumpster. These are examples of wasted property needlessly accumulated and consolidated for the supposed purpose of private wealth to the detriment of public good. Proudhon is pretty cool. We could also go into the idea of stocks in things that involved anything from fraud to genogide to obtain, like the entire US. We can also think of unfounded as unfair or unjust. Now the real crazy part comes in during a consideration of wage slavery, human beings and other animals as property, and labor as a commodity. |
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The act of blaming governments for their acts casts doubt on <whatever>  OK. It's not the policeman's/soldier's/civil servant's fault for <whatever>, it's their imaginary friend's fault??? OK. Youre making a clever, shrewd and damning point here. The person doing the dirty work is doing dirty work- but not his own dirty work, but the state's. It is a function of a state to manipulate people into doing evil things. Doesn't shift the blame, of course, but it does tell us about how these things work. |
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You think markets can be bought and sold, and markets of markets, ad infinatum? Idiot.
I might hesitate to brand someone an idiot for seeing fractals. 10thdim on youtube http://m.youtube.com/#/user/10thdim?&desktop_uri=%2Fuser%2F10thdim has a lot of really solid ideas that put a limit on that ad infinitum. For example, a state facilitated market, containing markets and submarkets, requires a market to run, itself- a coerced taxbase, and a market to support that- third world slave labor.. and so on. I am not an anarchocapitalist. I am an anarchist. Capitalism requires unfounded remote ownership a la Property is Theft. A market is what the macrocosm and the microcosm do. When a force presuming to micromanage and manipulate it uses coersion to delete agency and circumvents consent with violence, you get... well.. you get it. Right? Wall st. |
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AFFLUENCE Huah! Goodgod y'all... What is it good for? 
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Is it not better to try and get bitcoin accepted in our own local areas instead of going off and finding landing and starting from scratch?
For better or worse, starting from scratch is a worthwile experiment when you consider the difficulty of local implementation with the lack of such an experiment. Goes both ways though, but in places where btc is not painfully absent, New Hampshire, Germany, Cypress, are more common than new places that have it built in. Diversity of tactix. |
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First and foremost, Hail Satan! Hail Eris! Ect yadda yadda..
Slanderous libel on this order is to be expected from weak minded sheepeople; as the official spokesperson for the Illuminati on this matter, I can confirm that both the Church of Satan and the solar system-wide Illuminati guild as well as all possible and impossible Discordian sects are fully on board with the Bitcoin project.
Meow.
Roflmao! Awesome. However, I would like to complain about not receiving the December newsletter. As a 13th level demented minion, I expect better service. Also please check the suggestion box. I have long waited to have the holiday punch bowl ladle changed from the all seeing eye ladle to the upside down pyramid ladle. Get back to me these items please. As of December, the Newsletter is restricted to 14th level demented minions. Please update your minion software. Currently only the Sacred Chao ladle, the Baphomet horn ladle and the Serpinsky Triangle hyperladle are being considered as replacements. Thank you for your suggestion, new suggestions will be considered in the beginning of the second fiscal year of the age of aquarius. |
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It's unreal how the statists, after killing over 250 million in the 20th century, still maintain that their system works, or hasn't been perfected yet. How can these people advocate mass-murder? Every time they advocate for a state, that is what they are doing. How? HOW?!!
There have been very violent anarchies (think plains indians) as well but i wouldn't call that an argument against anarchy. Institutional mass murder: capital punishment, especially but rather not limited to false convictions and state sanctioned lynchings; civillian casualties of war, soldier deaths; people killed by cops; people killed by governmental incompetence and neglect; people who died in prison.Short list, presumably astronomical number. The First Nations People are a confederacy. Before the intervention of spain, war and sport overlapped. Counting Coup rarely involved murder. Anarchism requires far more structure than a state does. The fundamental structure in statism is coersion. Conversely, Anarchistic societies rely only on mutual aid without the threat of death. An example of one anarchist structure is linux, another, the guilds that built notre dame. Geographical borders.are unimportant to the anarchist- dominion and jurisdiction are internal persomal questions. |
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This is the kind of crap that makes me want to stop using BTC altogether in case I get arrested for unwittingly distributing offensive content under UK laws (I don't wish to get jailed for using BTC just because some idiot decided to post CP messages in the blockchain).The only thing I like about BTC is the easy way of sending money to and from other people (using only an address rather than typing in IBANS,card details,giving my address,etc with normal banks)
If this is true (and not just a rumour) then I'll have to stop using BTC in UK which is a shame.
I have questions about this:
Does the code actually load the offensive sites?
If this code can load these sites,how could the developers fail to see this happening and apply appropriate measures to remedy this issue?
How is it possible to post messages in the blockchain as I'm rather confused as to how this can work?
From what i've heard, all they put in the blockchain were URLs; and i'm not even sure if they are in plaintext. The fact that it's URLs means that I can get arrested for unwittingly distributing or relaying CP content simply because of what some person thought was funny to put in there.Whether it's plain text or not,it'll still be enough to get me in trouble if I continue to use BTC simply because of the CP message in the blockchain. Thanks for clearing that up.I think it's time to finish earning BTC (by working or selling things off),then cashout for good and delete all my BTC clients/accounts to stay out of trouble then. I'm not a lawyer, but the URLs themselves are just directions, they aren't the actual child abuse images. Though i guess some countries are really fucked up and might make even directions to where criminals can be found be a crime... Btw, if you're leaving Bitcoin, please send me your coins before you delete your wallet. Yeah send them here too. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_numberThank you for using the term child abuse images. Associating media containing evidence of inhumane violence.and rape can't be fairly called pornography by a level headed person. Seems this is successfully alerting people to specific evidence. Being able to expose human trafficking and child abuse without implicating yourself is probably not very easy. One might idly wonder about whether the content we're all blindly ranting about is actually objectionable or blown out of proportion. |
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Can this please be Catalonia?
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First and foremost, Hail Satan! Hail Eris! Ect yadda yadda..
Slanderous libel on this order is to be expected from weak minded sheepeople; as the official spokesperson for the Illuminati on this matter, I can confirm that both the Church of Satan and the solar system-wide Illuminati guild as well as all possible and impossible Discordian sects are fully on board with the Bitcoin project.
Meow.
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Well, I guess this thread is done.
yup |
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Dust is tasty, throwaway dumpsterfood. To constantly google away on my little smartphone looking for ways to dumpsterdive for free btc is beneficial to my wallet while not fucking with Murican poisonmoney ever at all ever.
BAM! The minimum standard size for "a box of bruised apples" has increased? Oh Joy!
Imma find larger minimum payouts now.
Metaphors? Metaphors!
Also, arbitrary optional stopgap default settings are cool.
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I have never been wrong Thanks for reminding me that I actually need to ignore you. I'll tell you 1 thing: I can single handedly kill the Ripple's trust system in it's current state. People who use Ripple will lose money, even if they have not done anything. I'm not doing it right now, because people will lose money, and it would cost me a substantial amount, but would be cheaper than what works out to be $160,000 a year of forum advertising. OpenCoin Inc should take the hint and stop trying to lure in users of real decentralized money. The "mislead bitcoin users into thinking we're open source and decentralized, sell our premined ripples to fund development" strategy doesn't work when not all bitcoin users are retards. Lawl. I liek yer style thar,TradeFortress. |
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I'm probably being ignored because I am honest...
I have never been wrong...
I examine reality at all times and I live in reality. ...
Metaphysically and financially I own many projects and many people...
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Go ahead and ignore me. ...
Ignore you? If you insist! Good thing there's a button for that! |
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What is value? This post makes me questions it.
Is value something that is derived by general consensus or something created between two individuals with a common need? It is both, but when that general consensus is in mark contrast to a groups particular needs it can be changed just like the sea shell money of the ancient world, or barter and trade; Something of rudimentary use was converted to something of consensual value by two people, that grew into a group that grew into a region.
This has happened to Bitcoin, it is of value to two individuals independent of what others think, it depends on how easy it is to get a hold of it.
Need to move $200,000 USD to another place? you do not need the price of an exchange to tell you that, just a agreed value between two people, in a different valuation system, Bitcoin can transfer whatever the hell two individuals wish it to be.
Bitcoin was built to be indestructible, tamper proof, something of this monumental nature does not need you to agree as a whole only as two or more parties in need of a method of exchange. Bitcoin will stll be here 100 years from now, hobbled and broken after years of billions of people trying to break it, but it will still exist for what it was intended to move: value, moving it between dedicated groups with particular interests.
When the price of bitcoins goes to zero by the popular exchanges, to key groups who understand it, they will still know what it is... a secure method of exchange.
What is Bitcoin worth to you? and what can you convince others to accept for it?
People will try to break it, I will be quite entertained to see what they try. I see nothing to worry about from the governments of the world: They wish to monitor Bitcoin sure, thats is what it is there for: the greatest social experiment in history, being recorded transaction by transaction. The more they fight, the more likely they will cause a Gutenberg press problem: The more they try to illegalize it and ban it, it's intrinsic value will be seen clearly and will be distributed to where it is not: If not the world, then to the darknet it will go, untill all humanity dwells within the darkweb to get it's need since they have been blocked from all other avenues.
we have seen what has happened to Argentina, this is definitely a place to monitor. The peoples need to live will not be hindered by a government that no longer acts in it's interests, they will actively find ways to skirt the system.
someone... quick... give cigar... Ripple is the gloves bitcoin will use to pick up nasty godforsaken dollars. Until Ripple pops, that is. |
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I shudder. 4chan introduced me to ripple. Tell me it isnt a scam again. I dare you.  On the bright side, it might assist some folks in making use of their obsolete USD. I hope. |
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Let me clear a few things up for you. Robots are workers. The word even comes from the Czech word for worker. A bitcoin miner is a specialized type of desktop calculator. Not a worker. It generates two things: Bitcoins and heat. Robots make things.
Very good point. Let's say I take desktop printer (a fantastic example of a robot) and tell it to continuously print the blockchain. Do you mean to imply that there is no work done until the ink hits the page? Let me remind you that all of this is binary code at its very heart- physical objects changing states, moving in sequence. |
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OP makes me  . There are several ideas in play here. The human need to do things, Crowley's True Will, Kropotkin's Toiler, as sharply opposed to Marx's proletariat and infrastructure. People should grow food (FUCK MONSANTO). If that's their bag.. Or do art, build things, join open sourcey guilds, trade cool junk ... whatever. I take it on very well backed up faith that all these things will happen without profit motive, because of the innate creative spark, specifically true will and the evolutionary principle of mutual aid. Then we have the remainder of tasks. We can collectively call those uncreative, unrewarding tasks toil. Toil must be automated. It is imperative on a humanitarian level. This cannot be debated. The specific way to automate toil is a matter of creativity. Trade IS the world going round, currency facilitates trade. Understanding these ideas in the context of a pervasive Capitalist empire requires a lot of intellectual spinning what if backflips, but its worth it. It requires that the global south and the third world be allowed freedom and unfettered access to technology and education. It also requires that religion on a mammoth scale be taken over by sound and culturally generated philosophy. Im not advocating global gentrification or universal affluence- these things ae overrated. I'm advocating that the Toiling class be elevated from very specific kinds of oppression into the status of a respected human person. |
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ARE YOU BLIND ? Me? Only sometimes. Mtgoxers with $'s instead of eyeballz? You betcha. I consided mtgox to be the big token glitch in Bitcoinia. Truthfully, Im a bit surprised that fraudulent, viscious federal reserve notes are still legal tender, and even more surprised that any amount of the evil little bastard slips can buy btc at all! |
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Having not traded any $, I might theorize that the reason has to do with bitstamp having more than a speck of integrity and fewer dollar hungry speculatorz. Somebody might elaborate on that.
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