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81  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism. on: June 25, 2013, 03:46:20 AM
tracing one's lineage through mothers of any gender is the crucial part, as opposed to relying on state documents.

Question

... and please, keep in mind that this is coming from someone who is a royal count, with a very rich family history spanning centuries, from Italy, through Poland, Russia, and Ukraine, from someone who comes from a long history of very prominent and well known scientists, who's great*3-grandfather even has a giant portrait and permanent exhibit at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington DC ...

Why bother tracing one's lineage, whether through mothers or fathers, in the first place? What's so special about the dead people you came from?

Tracking the genetic and situational-familial predispositions that may tend towards skill in arbitration gives you an arbitrary way to distinguish arbitrators.
Kings made kings cause it was convenient.
Other than that super-marginal factor, nothing.
82  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 25, 2013, 03:27:41 AM
Is god in the seventh dimension?

  I stopped watching when he said "This is my video blog post for November fourteenth, two thousand seven." The man clearly has no grasp of the fourth dimension, how can he know about the tenth?
You didn't just skip forward? You're an ignorant twat. successful troll. Go rewatch goddammit.

http://tenthdimension.com/textonly.php
Quote from: Rob Bryanton
The Fourth Dimension –A Line Okay. The first three dimensions can be described with these words: “length, width, and depth”. What word can we assign to the fourth dimension? One answer would be, “duration”. If we think of ourselves as we were one minute ago, and then imagine ourselves as we are at this moment, the line we could draw from the “one-minute-ago version” to the “right now” version would be a line in the fourth dimension. If you were to see your body in the fourth dimension, you would be like a long undulating snake, with your embryonic self at one end and your deceased self at the other. But because we live from moment to moment in the third dimension, we are like our second dimensional Flatlanders. Just like that Flatlander who could only see two-dimensional cross-sections of objects from the dimension above, we as three-dimensional creatures can only see three-dimensional cross-sections of our fourth-dimensional self.
83  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: June 25, 2013, 01:55:37 AM
TECSHARE used the wrong term. This topic isn't "self moderated," it's "OP moderated." Self moderated would be posters moderating, editing, and deleting their own posts. The "Libertarian and Anarchist" thing to do. OP moderated is that other thing.
Or it could be that due to the sensitivity of the subject matter, I feel it's prudent to shield the thread from the prevalent rape culture.

Conversely, I would rather find out if someone is has a prevalent rape culture, and have people's thoughts on it be in public, just in case there are some creeps I'd rather not associate with.

I don't intend on deleting such a post without record and critique of why.

Edit: An example of the sort of garbage I'd delete:
I'm irreducibly cismen. I've always said if you're not sure of your gender, take a look. Beyond what you find, you're not going to fool anyone, and what good iwould it be to try? Better to live to the full potential of the role  you're best equipped for.
This point of view assumes everything and discovers nothing, painting black and white subjects that extend well beyond the visible electromagnetic spectrum.
84  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: June 25, 2013, 01:53:18 AM
Matrilinial culture is a culture that does not rely on state issued receipts called birth certificates that determine one's surname.

Huh? I thought in this country parents decided on a child's name and surname, and the state only recorded the parents' decision?

That's not untrue at all.
I'm refering to expansive patriarchical norms.
85  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: June 25, 2013, 01:50:19 AM
Saying "crime" within anarchist frameworks is a terrible habit.

If enough people in a community consider it a crime, it's a crime, regardless of whether there are governments or laws involved. Whether "crime" is the right word to use at that point is just a question of semantics. I don't like to use "immoral," because not everything considered "immoral" is unethical, and just saying "unethical" just doesn't have the same intensity of meaning. If you would prefer some other term for an act that a society, with or without government, considers extremely wrong and requiring restitution, let me know.
Deviation is what you mean.
Restorative justice should be presumed, imo.

Ethics carries more weight to me. Semantics can be revealing if treated properly.
86  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Woman 26, bears child to 11 year old boy. on: June 25, 2013, 01:45:04 AM
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there is no commitment because they cant get pregnant
You do realize there's a precedent for male rape victims being sued for child support, right?

Anyways, I find your overall attitude sexist and disgusting.  If no one else, think about the baby.
A female raping a male is like a vegetarian hunting deer for food.
It happens, but it's pretty odd.
Smash the state. meowmeowmeow.
87  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Woman 26, bears child to 11 year old boy. on: June 25, 2013, 01:41:08 AM
Just gonna leave this here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241717.msg2571533#msg2571533
88  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would like to hear objections to radical libertarianism on: June 25, 2013, 01:37:05 AM
History is new and biased.
Predicting continued oppression based on records of past oppression is like guessing next week's btc prices.
89  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: June 25, 2013, 01:32:44 AM
A self moderated topic in politics and society. This thread is going places.

This.

Lol! I find this highly ironic. The forum is filled with Libertarians and Anarchists who want the whole world to be "self-moderated", yet the thought of a self-moderated Interwebs thread scares them. So they trust 'authority' more than they trust their peers, as long as the authority hasn't taxed/done anything bad to them yet? Out with the old, and in with the new!
How do you feel about agency and the relcaiming of queer?
90  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: June 25, 2013, 01:30:07 AM
A self moderated topic in politics and society. This thread is going places.

This.

Lol! I find this highly ironic. The forum is filled with Libertarians and Anarchists who want the whole world to be "self-moderated", yet the thought of a self-moderated Interwebs thread scares them. So they trust 'authority' more than they trust their peers, as long as the authority hasn't taxed/done anything bad to them yet? Out with the old, and in with the new!

TECSHARE used the wrong term. This topic isn't "self moderated," it's "OP moderated." Self moderated would be posters moderating, editing, and deleting their own posts. The "Libertarian and Anarchist" thing to do. OP moderated is that other thing.
Or it could be that due to the sensitivity of the subject matter, I feel it's prudent to shield the thread from the prevalent rape culture.
91  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: June 25, 2013, 01:19:20 AM
Matrilinial culture is a culture that does not rely on state issued receipts called birth certificates that determine one's surname.
We can see the nuclear family disintigrating, and we cheer.
Voluntary communities where Fathers do not own their children are in the near future.
92  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: June 25, 2013, 01:13:33 AM
A self moderated topic in politics and society. This thread is going places.

This.
Is this meant to imply that I should unmod myself?
Would that get y'all in the conversation?
No?
Ok. Have a nice day, and remember, if you're afraid you're gonna rape someone- blow your rape whistle.
93  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: June 25, 2013, 01:08:46 AM
Meh. To me it seems 'gender' is genetic programming, literally. People can fight it, deify or idolize it, rely on it, belittle it, ignore it, accept it, and maybe even transcend it.
BF Skinner's behaviorism can be helpful here.
Sex is biological- for the most part, which is mainly determined by genetics.
How we rely, ignore, et al. treat it, is what properly determines our gender.
94  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: June 25, 2013, 01:04:05 AM
In this thread, I hope to open up a dialogue in the presumably cismale-populated Bitcoin community about issues of rape, sexism, and patriarchy in an anarchist world.

These are cultural issues, not political or economic ones. So there is no answer to the question of whether these crimes would be more or less prevalent in anarchy society v.s. statist society, dictatorship society v.s. democratic society, communist society v.s. capitalist society, etc.
Saying "crime" within anarchist frameworks is a terrible habit.
The personal is the political. Seperation of these issues is deadly.
We are talking about an anarchist world here, and the differences in theory between our world- containing more rape, sexism, and patriarchy than one can even measure- and the worlds radical anarchafeminists and the like put forth.
95  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism. on: June 25, 2013, 12:55:11 AM
Capitalism, which is a form of collectivism

Sorry to use that way overused meme, but I do not think that word means what you think it means. Either of those. Just so we don't go around in circles, instead of assuming that the rest of us have any clue as to what you are talking about, can you actually explain what you mean, without using words like "capitalism," "collectivism," and "matrilineal"?
How do groups of people behave?
All sorts of ways, these are some names for them.
It's rather tricky to describe behaviors linked to capitalism without using words that describe how people behave.

...and I guess I have to make myself clearer.

lex mercatoria

I'm all against state and bureaucracy and stealing and enforced taxation, but I'm also tired of this typical US Libertarian rhetoric.

Socialism vs Market-radicalism is another of these false dichotomies.

Total world-wide equality and solidarity is an illusion, but non-corroding property rights at the individual level are an illusion as well. You need a state to enforce such property rights. If some rich ass owns an island on the other side of the world, it's just a piece of paper. And if he didn't even work hard for it, but inherited it like the friggin Queen of England, and people around that island have no space and starve, you can be sure they'll see it as their necessity and fair right to set a foot on this island. If they are civilized enough to know there's a paper that says someone owns that island at all in the first place, that is. They'll give a shit about any lex mercatoria.

From that perspective, property underlies the laws of entropy, just like anything in the universe.

Thus the concept of property only makes sense when there is a (military) force, mostly supplied by a state, behind it that can protect it.

So, again: property is just a piece of paper.

Say you own a piece of land with a house far away. What you're gonna do against squatters? Today, you'd call the police, right? Also supplied by the state.

And are these squatters just lazy bums and deserve it? No, maybe they're just from poor families, never could get proper education in Aynrandistan. They weren't lucky enough to be privileged and inherit land just like you. That's how social strains come about in the first place.

"Supplied by the state", but these forces can also be supplied by private organizations, you say? But what difference does it make to a state? That it's more "voluntary"? Also today you can vote with your feet. So the question is only about scale here.

Or, to put things in another way: If you (really) own some land, then you are the state of that land. And you're a dictator even at that. There's no essential difference between your idea of property and a state. Only about scale.

At the end of the day, without a state, you can only call property what you can defend yourself. Just how Max Stirner, an individualist anarchist puts it:

"Whoever knows how to take, to defend, the thing, to him belongs property."

This is much more logical than the US Libertarian view. And once you understand that, you'll see that a more co-operative and syndicalist way of self-organizing is just more rational and more economical.


*standing ovation*
Required reading.
96  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism. on: June 25, 2013, 12:43:52 AM
Historically, the selfsufficient matrilineal community is the anthropogenic organisation before patriarchal paternalist collectivism (animal farming and men farming) was established 10'000 years ago. It will also be the organisation of the future, because monogamous, patriarchal, paternalistic, surplus producing collectivism is not sustainable.

So, are you saying that you're hoping that in the future, one type of sexism will be replaced by another, while the rest of us are working on making gender irrelevant in regards to pretty much everything?
Anti male sexism is a vastly misrepresented myth.
Misogyny is real.
We are not and have never been dealing with mirror images, but a varied amalgamation of cues, traits and norms.
In order to explain this, a full course in radical feminism would be needed.

I think you missed my point. Unless I misunderstood "matrilineal community" as still having specifically defined gender roles with the female being the dominant one as opposed to the male one we have now. I'm against the idea of gender roles.
I'm against and above binary gender roles. Gender roles in a more fittingly complex framework are part of everyone's personality, will and identity.
Biological functions like thought and pregnancy- egg fertilization, are coincidental to gender, but determine the generation of the species.
Dominance is not relevent here. tracing one's lineage through mothers of any gender is the crucial part, as opposed to relying on state documents.
97  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold and Silver tanking HardCore on: June 24, 2013, 01:03:53 PM
There is a local bullion dealer which allows me to place limit orders for individual coins with guaranteed delivery. I am considering doing this, then walk in past the disgruntled folks staring at the "out of stock" signs and smugly receive my cheap gold.
I have a feeling it's not that easy though, where is the catch?

You'll get robbed for swaggering about with a 10 million dollars of gold in the palm of your hand  Grin

10 million dollars of gold weights ~2760 lbs
y u no use oz?
98  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism. on: June 24, 2013, 12:37:26 PM

Information cannot be destroyed. Practices become distorted, however.
It does not parse that any structure is "dead."


"Information can not be destroyed" stops being a catchy phrase once you ask yourself "what do i mean?"  Then it turns into something trivial like "love can not be destroyed":  sure, you can stop loving, though the concept itself persists.  Just like you can forget something, or beat up a HD with a sledgehammer, and you'll no longer have access to that information.  If yours was the only copy, nno one else would have access to it either.  Is it destroyed?  Well, what are we talking about? Smiley
How can you kill that which does not live? Shocked BoooOOooOooOo
I agree with everything in this post.
99  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin or bitcoin, NOT BitCoin. on: June 24, 2013, 12:34:16 PM
What about BITCOIN?
I'd vastly prefer literally any spelling or case, font, green glow, or whatever, as long as it isn't "BitCoin."
100  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: June 24, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
A self moderated topic in politics and society. This thread is going places.
1/10 made me respond.
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