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41  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should weed be legalized? POLL on: September 09, 2013, 03:11:52 AM
Laws make problems, nothing more. Any law, or lack of law dealing with weed (or anything including crack, murder, traffic violations, and tax evasion, ect) only serves to hurt people.
An arena where legislation is impossible, where institutionalized, state-violence-backed laws are obsolete is what I'm voting for.
42  Other / Politics & Society / Re: exercising my free speech on: September 09, 2013, 03:08:04 AM
umadbro?
Yeah he mad. Also reactionary. Also doesn't know that it's a self moderated topic with his womanbashing nonsense.
43  Other / Politics & Society / Re: what is government? why its your family of course. on: September 09, 2013, 03:03:10 AM
im sorry but how is it obvious that family is a "worthless structure". i get a lot of benefits from living with and taking care of my daughter, and she, i believe, gets a lot of benefits from living with and being taken care of by me. we both are made better off by the arrangement that is characterized by the word family.

i think you probably just had bad relationships with your family and are sub-consciously projecting as some sort of psychological defense mechanism. for that i am sorry. perhaps if you found a husband and made a child and developed a relationship with them you may come to understand the value of family.

/personal attacks
It takes a village, amirite? Why would one read what I said as an attack on your relationship with your kid? There's no reason you can't be the most active part of that village. When I define family I'm using a Waspish, closedminded neoconservaliberal mainstream shopaholic definition- a definition that's intentionally rough on the eyes to point out the villiagelessness of contemporary childrearing, which causes innumerable societal ills ranging from ADHD to school shootings.
44  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: September 07, 2013, 12:40:55 AM
why do my posts keep getting erased?  Angry
Troll.
Untroll yourself. Read the thread.
45  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Possible uses for Heat Generated by btc mining? on: September 06, 2013, 11:46:00 PM
Dyson spheres?
Considering that Nuclear power plants are nothing but really complicated water heaters, scaling up mining rigs to planetary levels might be cool. Also redundancy is neat.
46  Economy / Economics / Re: Anyone want to help me tear this to shreds? on: September 06, 2013, 11:35:34 PM
www.kilowattcards.com/ex.cfm
Just gonna leave this here. Imagine a forex between BTC and electricity vouchers. No one factor determines price, however, miners will only sell what they mined in exchange for enough to pay for their electricity plus X, where X is determined by whatever. I personally cannot believe these folks don't accept bitcoin yet.
47  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: September 06, 2013, 11:12:17 PM

Firstly, thanks for finally posting something somewhat on topis
Secondly , the contents of your pants has as much to do with accepting that the undeniable sweeping waves of abuse women (specifically) have gone through at the hads of self absorbed.men is real. It's propped up by the inane notion of "equality." "Equality" is a myth. I want to end rape culture.


When you say you want to end rape culture, are you implying that our culture tolerates, if not encourages rape? Or, are you trying to eliminate rapists as a cultural group? (I suspect the former)

When I heard about a recent high-profile gang rape case I had a sinking feeling that it only made the International news because the boyfriend was also attacked. This implies that she was not alone, and presumably was dressed modestly, not showing unusual interest in other men. In short, victim blaming is not possible in that case: the victim did everything right.

Sort of refuting my point, I found a BBC article about high-profile cases in India. that story does not mention the boyfriend at all.



The usual formula (victim blaming) doesn't fit here.
Singling rapists out as a cultural group, instead of a systemic impulse implies that rape is not a symptom of a larger disease.
48  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: September 06, 2013, 11:07:00 PM
Bump.
Any antifeminists out there want to bitch about how oppressed you are?


So by anti-feminist you mean any person who has been oppressed and also is the owner of a penis? It seems to me you are more interested in metering out your own form of self justified oppression rather than striving for equality, the true goal of actual feminists. I think the word you are looking for is anti-misandrist, because that is what you clearly do - attempt to subjugate people based only on the fact that they have a penis. Individuals be damned! PENIS = EVIL!
Firstly, thanks for finally posting something somewhat on topis
Secondly , the contents of your pants has as much to do with accepting that the undeniable sweeping waves of abuse women (specifically) have gone through at the hads of self absorbed.men is real. It's propped up by the inane notion of "equality." "Equality" is a myth. I want to end rape culture.

"Subjugate people based only on the fact that they have a penis."
This is trolling of the least admirable sort. That subjugation- rare as it is, only happens when Men try to stick their dicks where they aren't welcome or needed.

By anti feminist, I mean anyone unwilling to empathize with the construct of reality, as viewed by "the weaker sex."


So since we are on the topis, you are saying men can not be subjugated? You seem to be only repeating yourself rather than elaborating on your point. Since you don't believe in the possibility of equality, wouldn't that make you a supremacist?

Re-responding for the lulz. Troll.
Owning a penis is as simple as a trip to your local sex shop, geneticist, online store, or woods where you can gather a stick, widdle and sand it (hopefully) and attach it to your crotch with some vines, ect.
You are not in a position to determine "the true goal of actual feminists." Equality is a meaningless buzzword. Equality amounts to erasure. I am not attempting to erase women, but bring about understanding of the developed injustice that has grown around women.
Misandrist is also a meaningless and reactionary buzzword, used exclusively to discredit and confound feminists.
Also, next time you typo I'll find it and I'll hound you to the grave about it.
49  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Worldwar 3 and EMP bombs on: September 06, 2013, 10:38:04 PM
Since we would all die in a nuclear war it is not really a concern. Cockroaches do not need bitcoin.
Cockroaches will in fact need bitcoin once the're the dominant species on this planet. If they intend on facilitating trade between regions of roach-earth, that is.

On the real though- Everything that has ever been built was once built from scratch, and can be rebuilt, physically and programmatically better. Precautions have been taken. Inevitably, there exists hard drives within Faraday cages belonging to proponents of mutual aid. The next level of postnuclear humans (or cockroaches if that's your flavor) will always stand on the (albeit perhaps crumbled) shoulders of giants.
EDIT:From what I understand, the main purpose of ARPANET- the internet's great uncle- was to allow communications in the event of a nuclear disaster.
50  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Soon a new "Bitcoin News" website in spanish... on: September 06, 2013, 10:28:49 PM
San Antonio, TX reporting in. Let me know if I can help on the ground.
51  Other / Politics & Society / Re: what is government? why its your family of course. on: September 06, 2013, 10:24:17 PM
What is the family but a governmental body?
I suppose family needs to be distinguished in this sense from community in that a family is a Man, his wife, his offspring and perhaps any attached "moochers," such as grandparents, uncles and aunts and any living or nonliving property such as land or animals the Man owns.
Dismantling this obviously worthless structure we call the family is as urgent as dismantling the government. I'm no Marxist. However, this might be worth skimming.
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/index.htm
It develops out of the pairing family, as previously shown, in the transitional period between the upper and middle stages of barbarism; its decisive victory is one of the signs that civilization is beginning. It is based on the supremacy of the man, the express purpose being to produce children of undisputed paternity; such paternity is demanded because these children are later to come into their father’s property as his natural heirs. It is distinguished from pairing marriage by the much greater strength of the marriage tie, which can no longer be dissolved at either partner’s wish. As a rule, it is now only the man who can dissolve it, and put away his wife. The right of conjugal infidelity also remains secured to him, at any rate by custom (the Code Napoleon explicitly accords it to the husband as long as he does not bring his concubine into the house), and as social life develops he exercises his right more and more; should the wife recall the old form of sexual life and attempt to revive it, she is punished more severely than ever.
We meet this new form of the family in all its severity among the Greeks. While the position of the goddesses in their mythology, as Marx points out, brings before us an earlier period when the position of women was freer and more respected, in the heroic age we find the woman already being humiliated by the domination of the man and by competition from girl slaves. Note how Telemachus in the Odyssey silences his mother. [The reference is to a passage where Telemachus, son of Odysseus and Penelope, tells his mother to get on with her weaving and leave the men to mind their own business – Ed.] In Homer young women are booty and are handed over to the pleasure of the conquerors, the handsomest being picked by the commanders in order of rank; the entire Iliad, it will be remembered, turns on the quarrel of Achilles and Agamemnon over one of these slaves. If a hero is of any importance, Homer also mentions the captive girl with whom he shares his tent and his bed. These girls were also taken back to Greece and brought under the same roof as the wife, as Cassandra was brought by Agamemnon in AEschylus; the sons begotten of them received a small share of the paternal inheritance and had the full status of freemen. Teucer, for instance, is a natural son of Telamon by one of these slaves and has the right to use his father’s name. The legitimate wife was expected to put up with all this, but herself to remain strictly chaste and faithful. In the heroic age a Greek woman is, indeed, more respected than in the period of civilization, but to her husband she is after all nothing but the mother of his legitimate children and heirs, his chief housekeeper and the supervisor of his female slaves, whom he can and does take as concubines if he so fancies. It is the existence of slavery side by side with monogamy, the presence of young, beautiful slaves belonging unreservedly to the man, that stamps monogamy from the very beginning with its specific character of monogamy for the woman only,but not for the man. And that is the character it still has today.
52  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BitGov on: September 06, 2013, 10:05:59 PM
Sounds extremely and unnecessarily complicated, I do think there's nothing wrong with the main voting systems, the biggest thing wrong with them is that once a politician is elected citizens have no rights and can't take any steps to get rid of the leaders or block their laws until the next election. A classic example is here in the UK there's lots of talk about a referendum on the EU and the Scottish independence referendum, the politicians are actually wanting to ask peoples opinions on it and the people in power are doing absolutely everything to slow it down because they know how people will vote.

The last time we had a referendum was on the awful AV system which I actually voted no on.


My emphasis added.

The electoral college is insane. Representative democracy is insane. People at large putting their resources  into a project such as roadways or other would-be govt projects (not into people with nice smiles, clean light skin and pressed suites) by directly funding it, is not insane.

Capitalism does not provide equal voting rights since it favours the rich.

I hear this a lot. Nobody's been able to prove it to me. Give it a shot, you might be the one.

Don't feed the trolls, kungfoo.
53  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: July 18, 2013, 06:02:36 PM
Bump.
Any antifeminists out there want to bitch about how oppressed you are?


So by anti-feminist you mean any person who has been oppressed and also is the owner of a penis? It seems to me you are more interested in metering out your own form of self justified oppression rather than striving for equality, the true goal of actual feminists. I think the word you are looking for is anti-misandrist, because that is what you clearly do - attempt to subjugate people based only on the fact that they have a penis. Individuals be damned! PENIS = EVIL!
Firstly, thanks for finally posting something somewhat on topis
Secondly , the contents of your pants has as much to do with accepting that the undeniable sweeping waves of abuse women (specifically) have gone through at the hads of self absorbed.men is real. It's propped up by the inane notion of "equality." "Equality" is a myth. I want to end rape culture.

"Subjugate people based only on the fact that they have a penis."
This is trolling of the least admirable sort. That subjugation- rare as it is, only happens when Men try to stick their dicks where they aren't welcome or needed.

By anti feminist, I mean anyone unwilling to empathize with the construct of reality, as viewed by "the weaker sex."
54  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: July 16, 2013, 07:48:12 PM
The job market is just more women friendly, it's easy for a female to find a job.

Let's talk about sex work, shall we?

How many here are, perhaps subtley, rapists? How many here and anywhere give a damn about consent of any kind?
How far does concern for consent extend?
Is it really possible to override consent with wages?
55  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: July 16, 2013, 07:42:20 PM
A self moderated topic in politics and society. This thread is going places.

This.

What did Kropotkin say about women and feminism, Rampion?

Hehehe, I missed that question...

Kropotkin specifically didn't wrote about women and feminism AFAIK, but very generally the first anarchists shared the marxist view on females. Marxist basically thought that female subordination was definitely not a result of some kind of biological bias, but a fruit of patriarchal social relations in which men consider women as their private property, and they basically said that "owning the females" was a way to preserve exclusive access to certain social classes. And that's why chastity and fidelity are rewarded, etc.

More specifically, anarchists are against any type of hierarchical relationship (and this is why they are AGAINST capitalism, something many US folks don't understand because they are poisoned by the joke interpretation of anarchism by Rothbard), so strong female characters & feminist movements developed in anarchist society (they did in the only medium sized and mid term experiment, Aragón in Spain between 1930 and 1938). Eliminating patriarchal dominance was a very important goal in the fight against the state. As a small example, you US folks may be familiar with Emma Goldman, which pretty much sums up the anarchist feminism: they supported free love, they were anti-marriage, they hated puritanism and "female morality", and they considered themselves totally equal to men: thus they were hard workers, obviously they didn't expect any man to "provide", and they were in the front lines of the anarchy army during the spanish anarchist revolution.

I would add that for both anarchists and communists "feminism" was a bourgeois concept, and they obviously hated the "suffragism" that was defended by liberal feminists.

Alexandra Kollontai said in the early 1900's: "For what reason, then, should the woman worker seek a union with the bourgeois feminists? Who, in actual fact, would stand to gain in the event of such an alliance? Certainly not the woman worker"












In Chapter 10 of The Conquest of Bread, Kropotkin devotes a full section to the liberation of women via machines. He limits his descriptions to household appliances, but a clear inference can be made to extend this liberation to all spheres, excluding the futility of state participation. He describes women as "that drudge of humanity". I find this to be telling- less of Kropotkin's sexism, but more of the ubiquitous mysogyny commonplace both then and now.
56  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: July 16, 2013, 07:31:19 PM
I'm wondering, how much of this problem is due to misogynistic men oppressing women, and how much is it just culture that women themselves adopt from a young age? Why are young girls skittish, afraid of ikky crawly things, play with dolls, gossip, shriek, etc, and then grow up mostly uninterested in "manly" things like maths, sciences, engineering, banking, and other hard science type things? I mean, I know there are tons of women in the science, architecture, accounting, engineering, and business fields, but it seems there are very very few of them compared to the men. And I'm not even talking about out in the workplace where they may be oppressed and pushed out. Just go to any science or business conference where anyone is free to attend, and it's mostly men. Go to a software development or finance conference, and it's almost entirely men. Heck, go to any university class with any of those subjects, and although you'll see some female students, most of the class will also be men. It's like they have no interest to even try for any of those fields. Why?
When a newborn is legally and medically (usually according to a man) determined to be female, that sets in motion many things as far as training, expectation, exposure to norms and the like. Escaping this masculist insanity is neccessary for women to ever amount to more than a class of slaves
57  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: July 16, 2013, 07:25:15 PM
It almost sounds like you want revenge. Political systems don't actually have any gender -- the gender analogy is just an analogy -- and you seem to be forgetting that and way over-analysing how the state's stereotypical "fatherliness" is oppressive, just 'cause the state is such an old-fashioned Christian kind of guy who eats lots of meat, hogs the remote, scratches his balls, works full time while the wife stays home to cook and clean...

But of course your thinking isn't ovary-centric at all... Wink

Pretty much sums up what I think about all this. I actually agree with some of the points he/she/it (don't want to be chauvinistic!) is making about our culture being male-dominated in certain ways, as well as society in general being patriarchal and having a history of subjugating women. But as you said, I don't get the vibe of "let's treat each other fairly and as equals" at all. Seems more like he/she/it would cut off any mans balls, just because women once weren't allowed to vote or something and would quickly in turn oppress men because it would be just fair that way.
She. No '/' needed.
I'm nonviolent,.however- the balls of habitual rapists might get cut off (not to mention other mutilation or killing) as a matter of course. Is this unjust? I won'be the one with the scalpel. The idea that people can be equals is a quantative question. People are not quantities.
I'm sure men, deep down know that they are in no danger of being oppressed by those they have oppressed since the dawn of history, but they certainly fear the prospect.
58  Economy / Goods / Re: Two used Casascius Coins on: July 14, 2013, 09:05:11 PM
Bump. Have they sold? For how much?
59  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: July 14, 2013, 09:02:41 PM
Matrilinial culture is a culture that does not rely on state issued receipts called birth certificates that determine one's surname.

Huh? I thought in this country parents decided on a child's name and surname, and the state only recorded the parents' decision?
The parents are not equal in the eyes of the state-despite what laws and rights it may prop up.
The practice of Taking the father and husband's name, very literally, began with abject slavery.
60  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: July 14, 2013, 08:58:54 PM
A self moderated topic in politics and society. This thread is going places.

This.

What did Kropotkin say about women and feminism, Rampion?
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