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821  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Isn't it a bad thing to never have more than 21 million coins? on: September 29, 2011, 07:14:02 PM
i was wondering, how many bitcoin are left "unmined"?


Since about 7 million of 21 million have been mined, there are about 14 million left unmined.
822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Types of ownership on: September 29, 2011, 04:23:43 PM
This argument reminds me of the Lockean Proviso.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockean_proviso

IMHO you own yourself and the things you create. No one labored to create land, so land belongs to everyone equally. "Property is theft!"
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_is_theft!

... But like bitcoin2cash said, this has been argued to death, in this case for over 100 years. At this point actions speak louder than words. The battle for tax-free land is over, but cryptocurrency presents the opportunity to eliminate taxes (and thus restore full ownership) of almost all other goods. Hooray!
823  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The issues of the day on: September 29, 2011, 03:27:40 PM
The problem with moving to a 4 day week is that you need a rivet basher whose labour isn't needed to fill in for a dentist whose labour is needed and the dentist gets a 20% salary cut as he works 4 days instead of 5.  He may object and his customers may agree with him after the rivet basher has had a go at their teeth Tongue

In countries with a shorter work week this doesn't happen frequently. I suspect the dentist would  hire more dental hygienists and assistants to keep up, who would in turn vacate jobs the rivet guy would take. Right now a lot of people are working jobs "below" their training because jobs are so scarce.

It's a big broken window, of course. There are more efficient (if less politically palatable) ways to keep the riveter alive without messing everything ELSE up so much.

I know.  My premise is that there is a surplus of labour because unskilled manufacturing is never going to be done in the US or EU again.  It may be that some new profitable occupation for the people who used do that work can be found but I don't see what it can be since you'd have to have global full employment before the expensive people in the big Western economies can be employed again.

I think you're probably right. I think it's time we reevaluate where public education ends - it used to be a high school degree WAS enough, but that bar has risen and will now continue to rise as even some skilled jobs are being replaced by computers. Also we might want to replace minimum wage and some employee protection laws with [takes cover] guaranteed minimum income, too. I realize this will anger many people here (and it kinda angers me too) but I don't know how the free market could solve it. (Free market people - please give me something better, it would actually cheer me up)

I'm interested in how China will handle this. For them the problem will be much more pronounced, and if handled poorly could cause another revolution.
824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The issues of the day on: September 29, 2011, 01:13:04 PM
The problem with moving to a 4 day week is that you need a rivet basher whose labour isn't needed to fill in for a dentist whose labour is needed and the dentist gets a 20% salary cut as he works 4 days instead of 5.  He may object and his customers may agree with him after the rivet basher has had a go at their teeth Tongue

In countries with a shorter work week this doesn't happen frequently. I suspect the dentist would  hire more dental hygienists and assistants to keep up, who would in turn vacate jobs the rivet guy would take. Right now a lot of people are working jobs "below" their training because jobs are so scarce.

It's a big broken window, of course. There are more efficient (if less politically palatable) ways to keep the riveter alive without messing everything ELSE up so much.
825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The issues of the day on: September 28, 2011, 12:51:26 AM
Opportunity != guarantee

That's exactly the problem.  I have an opportunity to win the lottery too, but it doesn't mean it's remotely viable.

You play the lottery?
826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The issues of the day on: September 27, 2011, 11:28:59 PM
Additionally, upward mobility in this country is dead. If you weren't born rich, you'll never be rich.

uh, which one?

I meant the US specifically, but it's basically true of any first-world country at this point in time.

anyone poor bugger in any first-world country has enormous opportunity to be rich... you just have to jump on the internet to see the potential anyone with a few hundred dollars startup has these days.


If you're being sarcastic then... ZING!


If you're being serious... then you need help.

completely serious. anyone that can't see how to make money on the internet 'needs help'.

furthermore, anyone that earns just about any amount of income has the opportunity to become wealthy a la "Richest Man in Babylon" style.


So all I need $1,000 start up cash and an internet connection and I can become a multi-millionaire?  Then why aren't we all multi-millionaires?  Are you a multi-millionaire?

Opportunity != guarantee
827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The issues of the day on: September 27, 2011, 11:04:44 PM
I think a big problem is the prevalence of voting systems which are not clone-independent. It's what causes two-party systems (Divurger's law) and keeps the corporations in power. Similarly, in this day and age we don't need to elect representatives any more - everyone has a price. We could reduce corruption with delegated voting and liquid democracy instead.

So what should we spend on? The things we actually want, not the things our elected representatives' owners want. The world is trapped in the grip of plutocracy.
828  Economy / Economics / Re: eCurrency with a Basic Income? on: September 26, 2011, 12:58:34 PM
I wasted all this time responding to an obvious troll. Kudos!

Well by the time I finished the post I realised software probably isn't the answer. An offline method like face to face distribution by humans is the only thing I can think of. Modern day robin hoods.

I don't think most people would prefer government currencies because governments provide GMI. Using an inflationary currency is more harmful to the user, and inflation taxes hurt poor people more. No one will "take one for the team".

I expected free market enthusiasts to bash the idea, but I think a GMI is a capitalist ideal. It increases market fluidity both directly and by preventing money hoarding. We're already at the stage where governments are trying in vain to establish the information economy. It's time to let go of outdated work ethics.

My concerns are more pragmatic than free market enthusiasm. If it's opt-in, why would someone choose this currency over other cryptocurrencies? Keep in mind that individuals don't choose options that are best for everyone involved, but focus on short-term selfish benefit. So even if GMI is desirable, the system still might not work as intended.

If you're doing face-to-face distribution, who collects and distributes the cash? You?
829  Economy / Economics / Re: eCurrency with a Basic Income? on: September 24, 2011, 02:02:02 AM
I don't think most people would prefer government currencies because governments provide GMI. Using an inflationary currency is more harmful to the user, and inflation taxes hurt poor people more. No one will "take one for the team".
830  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Isn't it a bad thing to never have more than 21 million coins? on: September 23, 2011, 02:42:43 AM
In theory, once a population relies on a fixed-quantity cryptocurrency, that currency will appreciate in value relative to the economic growth rate. So there would still be some investment, but it would be more conservative than with inflationary currency.

In opinion, this might be stagnation, or less bubbly-bursty, or more "fair" to poor people. Apply your economic school as desired.
831  Other / Meta / Re: [POLL] banner advertising on the forum on: September 22, 2011, 12:51:19 AM
Most of us only see the ads we want to see (adblock) so I doubt it would hurt at all.
832  Economy / Speculation / Re: 9/20/11 Speculation Thread on: September 20, 2011, 12:59:22 PM
After the last few months I've given up on my prediction ability. I'm just going to buy a teensy bit when my deposit clears. (Won't significantly influence price)

Edit: perhaps I'm not the only one doing this with some of his mid-month paycheck... I guess we'll see.
833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming? on: September 20, 2011, 12:43:26 AM
I read it and understand your point, but I can't say I agree or disagree with your course of action. The problem might just be that we don't raise enough money to save these species, not that we need to start kicking down doors because it's cheaper. I didn't reply because you gave me a lot to think about.
834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming? on: September 20, 2011, 12:13:26 AM

I like the comment about pointing a loaded gun while cleaning the trigger. That's an interesting theory. The real question is can you bridge the gap between intent to do harm and ignorant accidental potential harm?

Of course, it would seem reasonably actionable, assuming your bounty request was justified, to incinerate anybody's specimen regardless if a government facility owned it or I owned it. If you feel threatened, you're suggesting it doesn't really matter who has possession. I'm trying to take a fair, equitable and lawful stance regarding your concerns. Is that correct?

Correct. I don't care WHO is handling smallpox unsafely. However, I don't consider ignorance of the social norm to be any more excuse than ignorance of the law. If someone is going to mess around with Smallpox, they have a responsibility to inform themselves of how to properly contain it. Hopefully we would start with an angry email, but if I'm sure they've had their chance, I side with the angry mob.

I can't see how we would get past the angry mob stage, so every family owning Smallpox is a little too bizarre for me to imagine.

If I can feebly relate this to the topic: driving around unaware of the damage your pollution causes does not excuse it. Neither does denying that damage. I hold the ignorant morally accountable lest I encourage ignorance. I'm arguing for consequentialism: if ignorant accidental potential harm has the same consequences as wilful potential harm, they are morally equivalent.

But please correct me if this sounds wrong, I don't have much confidence in this reasoning.
835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming? on: September 19, 2011, 08:01:18 PM
Smallpox isn't the same threat model as global warming. We can afford to do an imperfect job on global warming for a few years (either with or without regulation), but one slip-up with smallpox screws everyone. Doing research without proper containment procedures is aggression - like pointing a loaded gun at our heads while you clean the trigger.

I don't have any philosophers to back me up, but I'd probably pay towards a bounty to incinerate Frederic's hypothetical specimen, property rights be damned. Maybe I'll eat those words soon enough.  Grin
836  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I want to teach you how to make money. [Sticky Please] on: September 19, 2011, 04:25:47 PM
But in short, it makes money. How? Who gives a fuck. Its there, 20% each month. I can prove it over and over and I can even make higher profits than 20%.
That's an even more unlikely claim than Madoff's 10%, and we all know where that went. Buyer beware...


What I love is how she keeps rhetorically asking "who cares?" after several of us explained why we care.

BEWARE THIS SCAM. SHE WILL DELIVER GREAT PROFITS, GET YOU TO INVEST MORE, AND THEN SHE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR PREDICTABLE BEHAVIOR.

Ignorance should be a sin.

May God bless your soul.

Maria.

I'm still ignorant about those huge buy orders you previously posted about. Since you're willing to go off topic to pontificate, why not cleanse me of that sin, your holiness?
837  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I want to teach you how to make money. [Sticky Please] on: September 19, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
But in short, it makes money. How? Who gives a fuck. Its there, 20% each month. I can prove it over and over and I can even make higher profits than 20%.
That's an even more unlikely claim than Madoff's 10%, and we all know where that went. Buyer beware...


What I love is how she keeps rhetorically asking "who cares?" after several of us explained why we care.

BEWARE THIS SCAM. SHE WILL DELIVER GREAT PROFITS, GET YOU TO INVEST MORE, AND THEN SHE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR PREDICTABLE BEHAVIOR.
838  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Recycle lost coins on: September 18, 2011, 02:33:26 AM
What problem does this solve? If divisibility is a problem BUT we're willing to modify the protocol, then why not make them more divisible?
839  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming? on: September 16, 2011, 11:45:54 PM
Then you agree that society can intervene onto someone's land when the objective is to protect the survival of species.  Fine - we are in agreement.

No and no again.

Then you believe its not OK for society to prevent species being made extinct? 

If I'm understanding his position correctly, the society which values these species should offer to buy the land, buy enough specimens to relocate them, pay the landowner to change his destructive ways, or some other voluntary alternative.

This is kinda like the "wanting MORE pollution" thing; stopping at nothing to save all species may have worse consequences than letting some die.
840  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I want to teach you how to make money. [Sticky Please] on: September 16, 2011, 09:03:11 PM
Guys, the questions must be "smart and relevant" and some questions just don't fit the profile. keep trying. The topic is forex trading with brokers that accept liberty reserve.

If it looks like a ponzi scheme to you then please do more research on forex.

Remember: Smart and relevant.

Please forgive my stupid irrelevance. Smiley You're saying we should participate in your proprietary investment plan, which has excellent initial returns. But we don't know exactly what your program does, and all questions regarding your identity and previous claims are off-topic.

I appreciate the research advice, but I'm not doubting anything you are saying about forex itself. I'm doubting you personally. I really don't want this to come across as a personal attack, you seem nice, but anyone making claims like these should be subject to the same scrutiny.

Who the fuck cares who I am or what I do? If you know what I am talking about, and you understand forex, then you know this is Gold. It is math and numbers. Profits from software. Its simple, but if you do not get it, then this simply is not for you. So the questions I am looking for are not "who I am questions, or what do I think questions". I want questions regarding the system itself, any forex/bitcoin/liberty reserve question is fine.

The topic is...Let me teach you how to make money..so the questions should gravitate around that main idea.

This is getting childish and I am about to change my mind regarding my offer. Maybe you guys simply don't want to make money. Fine.

Maria.



Anyone who runs your executable should care who you are. I don't have questions about the system itself because the only question that matters - "how does it work?" - is deliberately kept secret. Every question about trust, which is critical for anonymous business, has been either dismissed or met with insults.
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