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921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's First Killer App -- what will it be? on: October 27, 2014, 09:35:11 PM
How about some kind of social media p2p payments?

Social media payments? You mean you pay people via facebook or something like that using bitcoins?

Sure the Reddit tipping thing sounds cool.  Something like that with even broader appeal.
922  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's First Killer App -- what will it be? on: October 27, 2014, 09:29:40 PM
The "iPhone Money Miner" - Use your iPhone to generate free money!  Yes, you really did read that correctly.  As smart phones continue to get more and more powerful, why not use this power to put it to work for you!  Even with your phone on standby, it can be working on complex math problems in the background.  These math problems are the lifeblood of so-called "crypto-currencies", and they need machines to do these math problems.  They need so many machines to do them, that they are willing to pay you for your time!*

* Disclaimer: data rates apply, battery life may decrease, but you get paid to do this while walking around the mall!

Now available in the app store... only $0.99

That won't get anybody to buy BTC. Smiley
923  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I missing something? (or is BTC destined for greatness and soon) on: October 27, 2014, 09:23:41 PM
If you don't mind my answering your question with a question, are there estimates as to what percentage of emitted BTC are immediately sold?
924  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's First Killer App -- what will it be? on: October 27, 2014, 09:22:44 PM
How about some kind of social media p2p payments?
925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's First Killer App -- what will it be? on: October 27, 2014, 08:30:40 PM
No speculation on this?

When you use your credit card with Circle, it's a cash advance as far as the credit card company is concerned which translates to high fees.
926  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin's First Killer App -- what will it be? on: October 27, 2014, 07:45:56 PM
The one that makes Average Joe buy BTC because he needs it for something.
927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I missing something? (or is BTC destined for greatness and soon) on: October 27, 2014, 07:41:22 PM
What about the emission rate?  BTC must stimulate enough buying pressure to counteract the selling pressure created by miners which I think is the reason for the downward price trend as of late.  How much BTC will be emitted over the next year, for example?
928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 27, 2014, 07:20:30 PM
I hope the price of monero will drop to a rate where mining is not profitable compared to other crypto coins out there.

Maybe that's the magic price point.  Any math geniuses in here?
929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 27, 2014, 06:50:33 PM
Why is the XMR emission curve so much steeper than with other PoW coins?  Is there a benefit to flattening out sooner?

Bit of a sore point that one, the emission curve is something we got stuck with from the original incarnation of Bitmonero, which had an autocratic solo dev who knew best.... It was then forked by the current team and so you can tell what the people preferred, but the emission curve stayed.

Really nice to have that info, thank you.  How big of a problem does this pose to an investor?

Pretty significant to be honest. Monero will have 18.4 million total/max coins. 14.72 million (80%) will be mined in the first 4 years. Currently, we're at 4.2 million in circulation.

The first 4 years, has heavy inflation. This gives investors an incentive to buy in at the end of that timeframe. And 4 years in crypto is a long time, with a significant chance that something better will come into the market.

I can imagine that XMR must become very popular as an investment or as a store of value (short or long term) in order to counteract that degree of inflation.
930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 27, 2014, 06:34:09 PM
Why is the XMR emission curve so much steeper than with other PoW coins?  Is there a benefit to flattening out sooner?

Bit of a sore point that one, the emission curve is something we got stuck with from the original incarnation of Bitmonero, which had an autocratic solo dev who knew best.... It was then forked by the current team and so you can tell what the people preferred, but the emission curve stayed.

Really nice to have that info, thank you.  How big of a problem does this pose to an investor?
931  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I missing something? (or is BTC destined for greatness and soon) on: October 27, 2014, 06:11:51 PM
Getting back on track:

Really, no one can point out a (possibly-)fatal flaw or danger other than regulation?
932  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I missing something? (or is BTC destined for greatness and soon) on: October 27, 2014, 06:11:01 PM
Those smart contracts you are talking about are altcoins not Bitcoin. This link is Gavins proposal for Bitcoin smart contracts:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/gavin-andresen-outlines-bitcoin-2-0-without-ethereum/

Note: This is a good thread, I hope I didn't throw you off topic.

Fair enough.  I just want to point out that XCP and MSC operate on the BTC blockchain in the (very off) chance that you didn't already know that.


One other thing right now that hurts us is the security of the wallet. There are some new inovations out there, but most are too tech savy for older people. It looks like some better options May be comming out next year.

You could be right about that.
933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 27, 2014, 06:05:51 PM
fungibility is also a serious issue.

Why is that?


If you live in a corrupt state where the state is confiscating without serious reasoning maybe the citizens should get the possibility for something which is not that easy to link or to confiscate.

Doesn't that mean XMR is under much more regulatory danger than BTC?
934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 27, 2014, 06:00:31 PM
Great analysis there.

Why is the XMR emission curve so much steeper than with other PoW coins?  Is there a benefit to flattening out sooner?
935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I missing something? (or is BTC destined for greatness and soon) on: October 27, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
Certainly but lack of smart contract functionality can't be what's holding BTC back if that functionality is in fact available.
936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I missing something? (or is BTC destined for greatness and soon) on: October 27, 2014, 05:42:19 PM
Don't XCP and MSC provide smart contracts on the BTC blockchain already?
937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: October 27, 2014, 05:37:56 PM
EXCELLENT points guys!  My faith in the concept of a non-transparent blockchain is restored.  But will Monero be the One?  It sounds like ZeroCash has a lot of people very interested but it hasn't been released yet.  Is Boolberry the next best thing in CryptoNote?  What does BBR have going for it that XMR doesn't?
938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I missing something? (or is BTC destined for greatness and soon) on: October 27, 2014, 05:28:09 PM
Really, no one can point out a (possibly-)fatal flaw or danger other than regulation?
939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I missing something? (or is BTC destined for greatness and soon) on: October 27, 2014, 04:48:04 PM
Besides regulation, why *wouldn't* it go big?
940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I missing something? (or is BTC destined for greatness and soon) on: October 27, 2014, 04:41:13 PM
OK cool, these are the kinds of responses I was hoping for.  Of course it isn't perfect, but the question on my mind is will it go big or does it have a fatal flaw that will snuff it out?
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