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141  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each on: June 29, 2013, 08:55:44 AM
So they have 16 chips each?  Can you run GetInfo to see how many engines are running on each chip?
~15W per chip+35W for the board, I guess.

SC Single #1:

Code:
DEVICE: BitFORCE SC
FIRMWARE: 1.2.5
IAR Executed: NO
CHIP PARALLELIZATION: YES @ 16
QUEUE DEPTH:40
PROCESSOR 0: 14 engines @ 272 MHz -- MAP: FFBE
PROCESSOR 1: 13 engines @ 269 MHz -- MAP: F7BE
PROCESSOR 2: 14 engines @ 267 MHz -- MAP: FFF6
PROCESSOR 3: 15 engines @ 248 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 4: 13 engines @ 280 MHz -- MAP: FFEA
PROCESSOR 5: 11 engines @ 283 MHz -- MAP: F57C
PROCESSOR 6: 14 engines @ 250 MHz -- MAP: FFBE
PROCESSOR 7: 15 engines @ 260 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 8: 14 engines @ 258 MHz -- MAP: FFFC
PROCESSOR 9: 15 engines @ 255 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 10: 15 engines @ 269 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 11: 15 engines @ 255 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 12: 15 engines @ 258 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 13: 15 engines @ 252 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 14: 14 engines @ 277 MHz -- MAP: FDFE
PROCESSOR 15: 15 engines @ 249 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
THEORETICAL MAX: 59476 MH/s
ENGINES: 227
FREQUENCY: 274 MHz
XLINK MODE: MASTER
CRITICAL TEMPERATURE: 0
XLINK PRESENT: YES
DEVICES IN CHAIN: 1
CHAIN PRESENCE MASK: 00000001

SC Single #2:

Code:
DEVICE: BitFORCE SC
FIRMWARE: 1.2.5
IAR Executed: NO
CHIP PARALLELIZATION: YES @ 16
QUEUE DEPTH:40
PROCESSOR 0: 15 engines @ 267 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 1: 14 engines @ 267 MHz -- MAP: FEFE
PROCESSOR 2: 15 engines @ 273 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 3: 15 engines @ 253 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 4: 15 engines @ 243 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 5: 14 engines @ 246 MHz -- MAP: FBFE
PROCESSOR 6: 15 engines @ 267 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 7: 15 engines @ 250 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 8: 14 engines @ 265 MHz -- MAP: FFF6
PROCESSOR 9: 15 engines @ 255 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 10: 14 engines @ 234 MHz -- MAP: EFFE
PROCESSOR 11: 15 engines @ 260 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 12: 14 engines @ 265 MHz -- MAP: FFFC
PROCESSOR 13: 15 engines @ 262 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 14: 15 engines @ 257 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 15: 15 engines @ 255 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
THEORETICAL MAX: 60508 MH/s
ENGINES: 235
FREQUENCY: 274 MHz
XLINK MODE: MASTER
CRITICAL TEMPERATURE: 0
XLINK PRESENT: YES
DEVICES IN CHAIN: 1
CHAIN PRESENCE MASK: 00000001
142  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [37000 GH] BTC Guild - PPS/PPLNS + TxFees, Stratum, Merged Mining ASIC Tested on: June 29, 2013, 12:29:18 AM
2: It doesn't apply to future devices.  Any time I plugged in new hubs+units, it required me to run zadig again, otherwise they wouldn't be using the WinUSB driver.

Really?  I've added a few since my initial install, and all I have to do is shut down cgminer, plug in the device, edit my cgminer batch file to include the next com port, then restart cgminer.  But I'm using 3.1.1.

M

He is talking about the latest version of cgminer which does not use COM ports anymore.
143  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each on: June 29, 2013, 12:28:31 AM
thank you for this TWMZ. I have been searching for some real power numbers for the singles.

now to extrapolate to a little single (if these ever get shipped) I would assume little more than half, probably 150W each is a generous estimate.

I'm guessing you run each single from a dedicated PCIe cable. What are the connectors like on the ASIC end? is it 2*6 pin connectors? or 1*8 and 1*6 -- or 2*8?

Do you expect one would be able to run 2 little singles from one PCIe cable?

Each single has a two 6 pin PCIe sockets.  So I have 4 cables coming out of my PSU.  Two cables go to each single.  The particular PSU I have is modular, so I get to choose exactly what cables I want coming out of it.  In other words, I don't have a mess of HDD cables or other unused power cables, etc.

I have no information at all on the little singles.  They are half as fast roughly, so you'd think they would use half the power requirements and therefore might have half the connectors, but again, that is entirely conjecture.
144  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each on: June 28, 2013, 11:31:44 PM
From what mining platform or monitoring tool are you pulling these images?
I assume the top one is a pool? But the bottom one? TIA

The top one is btcguild.  The bottom one is not a mining thing.  I have do-it-your-self internet-enabled power/energy monitoring in my home and this is one of the dashboards for that data.
145  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [37000 GH] BTC Guild - PPS/PPLNS + TxFees, Stratum, Merged Mining ASIC Tested on: June 26, 2013, 08:30:30 AM

from the website news section "Sales through the website will be restricted to US based customers, but special arrangements can be made via email for international customers."

so email him that question it sounds like.

where do you see the news section "Sales through the website Huh?  i not see news section = impossible to send email.

@++

146  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each on: June 26, 2013, 02:12:45 AM
Did you get power brick or just use ATX PCI-E power connector?

ATX power connectors are the only option at this point.  BFL does not have the power bricks yet, and so if you want a power brick, you have to volunteer to have your shipment delayed (which would be stupid).  I happened to have a good ATX power supply left over from my GPU mining rig (which has now been retired), so it wasn't a problem for me.  My guess is that my ATX power supply is more efficient than the power brick that they will eventually have anyway (and it is UL tested and certified).
147  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each on: June 26, 2013, 01:35:05 AM
4.71w/G. So the chips are made of 110nm?
4.71W/GH/s is not what the chips consume. Think about the error in your calculation.


For starters a 110nm Avalon at 66GH/s consumes over 600watts, the BFL is less than half that.




My power numbers are taken from the wall and so do include the inefficiencies/overhead of the ATX power supply.  I also think I added one additional table fan when I hooked these up, to the power draw from that fan may also be included in these numbers.  When I get back home this weekend, I'll take some more careful measurements to isolate the power usage of just the SC Singles + power supply (which includes their chips, their mainboard, their fans, the ATX power supply, and the power supply's fan).
148  Bitcoin / Hardware / BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each on: June 25, 2013, 05:29:39 PM


Although it took 1 year to get them, I am happy to have them in my hands and mining...



The "fast" worker includes a 5.5 GH/s jalapeno as well:


Power usage: 440 watts on that circuit before plugging in the two singles, 996 watts after = 556 watts for the pair = 278 watts each on average:


149  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 24, 2013, 01:45:08 AM
DIRECTLY from the company link please..thanks

You contact friedcat by PM I believe... but this is only if you are ordering BULK.  You MUST purchase from a group buy otherwise.

See this post for details:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217104.0
150  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Honoring Pay Dates? on: June 23, 2013, 01:10:49 AM
Who has received their shipping notice for 60gh unit and what was the paydate? I have a order that was paid at the start of april 2012, and have not heard anything yet.

I had a jally with the same pay date and it didn't ship until June 7th. Jody posted this message on June 6th. "Most of the Jalapenos through paydate July 31 have shipped. Sometimes an order can get hung up in the shipping software."

I would like to hear some more shipping and pay dates before I fly down there. Though it seems pretty obvious that pay dates are not being honored.




My two SC Singles just went into production yesterday and I got an email from Jody telling me they would be shipping in the next couple days.  My pay date was June 23, 2012.  June 23, 2012 was the first preorder day, so I am unclear on how you think you have an April 2012 pay date.

I paid for the order in April 2012. A lot of people cancelled FPGA orders and converted them to ASIC orders. Butterfly has already said those pay dates will be honored.

I suspect that the date they are using is the date you converted the order and it's just wishful thinking that they would ever use your FPGA pay date.  If they were using your FPGA pay date instead of your conversion date, then I wouldn't have gotten my Jalapeno more than a month before you and you would have already received your SC Single.
151  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Honoring Pay Dates? on: June 22, 2013, 11:56:56 PM
Who has received their shipping notice for 60gh unit and what was the paydate? I have a order that was paid at the start of april 2012, and have not heard anything yet.

I had a jally with the same pay date and it didn't ship until June 7th. Jody posted this message on June 6th. "Most of the Jalapenos through paydate July 31 have shipped. Sometimes an order can get hung up in the shipping software."

I would like to hear some more shipping and pay dates before I fly down there. Though it seems pretty obvious that pay dates are not being honored.




My two SC Singles just went into production yesterday and I got an email from Jody telling me they would be shipping in the next couple days.  My pay date was June 23, 2012.  June 23, 2012 was the first preorder day, so I am unclear on how you think you have an April 2012 pay date.

P.S.  My Jalapeno with the same pay date (June 23, 2012) arrived on April 29, 2013.  It was one of the first couple dozen Jalapenos shipped to actual customers (vs to developers/reviewers).

My order numbers were both in the 166x range and placed and paid in the first hour after pre-orders opened on June 23, 2012.
152  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Honoring Pay Dates? on: June 22, 2013, 11:48:54 PM
Who has received their shipping notice for 60gh unit and what was the paydate? I have a order that was paid at the start of april 2012, and have not heard anything yet.

I had a jally with the same pay date and it didn't ship until June 7th. Jody posted this message on June 6th. "Most of the Jalapenos through paydate July 31 have shipped. Sometimes an order can get hung up in the shipping software."

I would like to hear some more shipping and pay dates before I fly down there. Though it seems pretty obvious that pay dates are not being honored.




My two SC Singles just went into production yesterday and I got an email from Jody telling me they would be shipping in the next couple days.  My pay date was June 23, 2012.  June 23, 2012 was the first preorder day, so I am unclear on how you think you have an April 2012 pay date.
153  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [700GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 22, 2013, 09:16:25 PM
EDIT: On BFL's forums, some users are reporting > 100% efficiency with 5.5 GH/s miners. I thought reports here were that they don't work?
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/jalapeno-single-sc-support/3367-reducing-20%25-hash-rate-penalty-using-bfl-hardware-p2pool.html#post42224

Hi I'm that user on forums.butterflylabs.com talking about my jalepeno which works fine on p2pool, my current efficiency is 105%.  I'm not sure why the p2pool guide claims ASICs can't work on p2pool, it's working fine for me.  Once I get my 60GH singles in I'll be trying them there too so we'll see if they hold up as well.

It's odd, that's for sure.  You have 105% efficiency, but you also have a 20% DOA rate (which is horribly bad).  Not sure which number to believe...

Isn't 20% DOA pretty average for p2pool?

My GPUs (when I was still mining with GPUs) were getting <2% DOA.
154  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [700GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 22, 2013, 08:54:10 PM
EDIT: On BFL's forums, some users are reporting > 100% efficiency with 5.5 GH/s miners. I thought reports here were that they don't work?
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/jalapeno-single-sc-support/3367-reducing-20%25-hash-rate-penalty-using-bfl-hardware-p2pool.html#post42224

Hi I'm that user on forums.butterflylabs.com talking about my jalepeno which works fine on p2pool, my current efficiency is 105%.  I'm not sure why the p2pool guide claims ASICs can't work on p2pool, it's working fine for me.  Once I get my 60GH singles in I'll be trying them there too so we'll see if they hold up as well.

It's odd, that's for sure.  You have 105% efficiency, but you also have a 20% DOA rate (which is horribly bad).  Not sure which number to believe...
155  Economy / Auctions / BFL Chip Credits x64 - Low Starting Bid on: June 22, 2013, 02:54:41 AM
The starting bid is only $25 for the entire pack of 64 credits:

https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/40456-bfl-butterfly-labs-asic-chip-discount-credits-pack-of-64
156  Economy / Digital goods / BFL Chip Credits x64 - Low starting bid on: June 22, 2013, 02:53:41 AM
Starting bid for the entire pack of 64 credits is only $25...

https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/40456-bfl-butterfly-labs-asic-chip-discount-credits-pack-of-64
157  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [32000 GH] BTC Guild - PPS/PPLNS + TxFees, Stratum, Merged Mining ASIC Tested on: June 13, 2013, 12:36:01 PM
Can you estimate or guesstemate current PPS for NMC? I thought that would be easely calculateed but I have problems... Thanks.

EDIT: This is from news. "As of this morning, rewards for merged mining via Stratum are now awarded to all users." So everyone get them right now PPS too?

I switched because I was looking in extra NMC that will get me more the coins I lost...

Average payment per share for PPLNS is the same as for PPS:

Code:
(block reward / difficulty) * (1 - fee)

So, currently (assuming a 3% fee which I am not entirely sure of):

Code:
(50 / 3047194.60) * 0.97 = 0.00001591627919
158  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [32000 GH] BTC Guild - PPS/PPLNS + TxFees, Stratum, Merged Mining ASIC Tested on: June 12, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
Why does your site use Google-Analytics? Is there a need to be tracked when we go to your site?

https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout
159  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [32000 GH] BTC Guild - PPS/PPLNS + TxFees, Stratum, Merged Mining ASIC Tested on: June 12, 2013, 12:35:28 PM
Hm, I set up a NMC adress, but no balance shows up after 2 PPLNS updates. When do NMC earnings show up normally?

Just asking if I did something wrong. I am on the EU stratum server.

Re-read the 4th sentance in the post two before yours...
160  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [GROUP BUY] 1 KNC Jupiter Miner Preorder 1-500 + hosting (14/70 shares @1BTC) on: June 08, 2013, 03:58:57 PM
5 Shares:

http://blockchain.info/tx/bf132e01622380c5c5bb97d4ddc957cc62494bd33052485bdad4ce2dcbcfde36

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