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241  Economy / Economics / Re: My bank account's got robbed by European Commission. Over 700k is lost. on: September 11, 2013, 10:23:40 PM
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The fight isn't between the left and the right, but the free and the ones who want to control and enslave them by hook or by crook. 
please refer to the diagram

242  Economy / Economics / Re: How long do you think we have? on: September 11, 2013, 06:29:32 PM
Here's how it goes

1.fed prints money
2.fed buys government bonds
3.most of the government debt is owed to the fed
4.a few years laters the fed cashes out its bonds
5.a big portion of taxes goes towards paying the fed
6.people get angry and fed up of paying the fed
7.a coup d'etat follows
8.the military junta declares a temporary dictatorship until things settle down
9.people go with it until they get tired of it
10.American springs happens
11.America is reborn as a libertarian nation with sound money, no income tax and a flat tax code(whichever tax will take the income tax place)
or
1.nothing happens and we slowly cut spending and pay the debt
243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCING]Sauron Rings (SAU) | Show your support for Sauron! | PoW | Rare! on: September 11, 2013, 03:43:48 PM
This is rare why? With no cap, could go on forever.

also any amount of premine is still above 0, no matter if a cap or not, so how can you say 0?

i really like the idea of this coin, but those 2 questions raise some doubt for me.
I think he said there'd be 20,000 rings at first.
You should make it 20,000 cap limit again smeagol.
244  Economy / Economics / Re: How to actually start an anarchy? on: September 11, 2013, 02:24:47 PM
Well there is decentralized networks like the mesh network that work on small scale, but for big scale networks hierarchichal topology is a must.


I disagree; there's no single overhead ensuring all fast food chains are doing business well.  They all work just fine as their own separate entities.

And even then, non-chain restaurants do perfectly fine without any overhead at all.  Though they are all a part of the same food network, they don't necessarily have to be herded under one ruler.

You could gather a group of Bitcoin Talk members and release them into the wild. I'm sure that would work.

What good would that do?
like he who has never eaten greasy fast food cast the first bun.
245  Economy / Economics / Re: How to actually start an anarchy? on: September 11, 2013, 01:11:42 PM
One little thing that might help: Stop calling it anarchy. How about "decentralized capitalism", or even, "decentralized governance".

People too closely associate the word "anarchy" with chaos/disorder. That right there makes people stop listening.

They call this libertarianism, but it's still anarchy Tongue  I agree with you though, there is a lot of confusion about what anarchy actually is; since the schools are biased, anarchy is the death of society, while government is the savior, and that's as much anarchy as anyone really learns.

Libertarianism is actually how I was introduced to anarchy.

Indeed.

In any event, I think it would be more difficult (or at least take a while) to build the same animosity/misunderstanding around the term "decentralized" as there is around "anarchy" today. For one, in software circles, decentralization is obviously considered good, and there are a lot of people in, or adjacent to, the software space who are aware of that. Instead of being turned insta-hostile by the term, hearing something like "decentralized governance" may actually spark a little interest.

Gotta start somewhere. I feel like the term "anarchy" is absolute poison at this point and requires revision to even hope to get the conversation going.
Well there is decentralized networks like the mesh network that work on small scale, but for big scale networks hierarchichal topology is a must.
246  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Just going to vent to you about how we the people(miners) are getting ripped on: September 11, 2013, 12:50:58 AM
People seem to think that bitcoins has an egalitarian mission.
It doesn't.
The only thing that it has that could be considered egalitarian, is taking power away from the federal reserve and allowing people to replace fiat with sound money, if they choose.
That's it.
247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "Silver to bitcoin's gold" on: September 11, 2013, 12:26:40 AM
GLD - top lel, comedy gold, top kek, etc
really? is this a joke?
What will be comedy gold is when the price of GLD takes a dive to 0 and MicroGuy the great starts freaking out.
248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple starts to conquer the world from China on: September 10, 2013, 11:58:19 PM
Can anyone tell me how this thing works?
I looked at the wikipedia article and it basically says its a debt based cryptocurrency that you can trade for social points.
Like wtf if that supposed to mean.
249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- Your Favorite Crypto-Coins - Mine, Buy and Pump -- on: September 10, 2013, 10:19:13 PM
hold-cryptogenic bullions, namecoins, litecoins have been kind of tumbling lately for some reason
pump'n'dump-bbqcoin, pennies, caps
make fun of-goldcoin

I like that.

I make fun of FeatherCoin cause it costs as much as CGB and 12 times more than DGC while offering nothing special, innovative or rare.  FeatherCoin is probably the most overvalued coin out there.

I'm personally accumulating (and waiting on the Bitcoin ETF):  ixCoin, Devcoin, DigitalCoin, Quark and I trade a few other hyped coins.  My hope is to hold as many coins as possible when that Bitcoin ETF is announced csuee that's gonna be a game changer like nobody realizes right now.

It will push Bitcoin over $1,000 which will cause many alt coins to sky rocket.
ixcoin- I like the fact that it will be completely mined by 2015. There's also only going to be 21 million... seems undervalued.
Devcoin- its nice to see some altruism and all, but 90% is to steep. 10% would have been more reasonable.
Digitalcoin-meh
Quark-CPU mining is killing this coin and so far there is no need for what it has to offer (security) Maybe in the future.

But that's just my two satoshis.
250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- Your Favorite Crypto-Coins - Mine, Buy and Pump -- on: September 10, 2013, 08:54:51 PM
hold-cryptogenic bullions, namecoins, litecoins have been kind of tumbling lately for some reason
pump'n'dump-bbqcoin, pennies, caps
make fun of-goldcoin
251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTF WITH FREICON on: September 10, 2013, 08:21:29 PM
where is link
Here's one
http://www.coindesk.com/freicoins-attempt-to-free-the-economy/
252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTF WITH FREICON on: September 10, 2013, 08:07:34 PM
lol.
freicon is keneysian.
Keneysians believe that money must lose value so that people will spend it.
There's nowhere to spend failcoins er I mean freicoins though, making the idea stupidier than it is.
Btw this is the current US fed policy, only that instead of demurraging money, they're printing it and giving it to the government making yours lose value every day.
Enjoy.
253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] [NIG] Nigeria Coin - SHA256 POS+POW on: September 10, 2013, 02:06:20 AM
Oh lord, this is like a comedy gold mine you can't mine without being labeled a racist. Lips sealed
254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt-Coin. The only way to win the war against regulation. on: September 10, 2013, 01:47:13 AM
Oh their from this site
http://gunshowcomic.com/748
Most of them are weird though.
255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt-Coin. The only way to win the war against regulation. on: September 10, 2013, 12:43:35 AM
What?? I invented this game. I am here telling you what we should do next. Ask Satoshi, he knows WTF I am talking about.

Oldest miner here.

Maria.
paypal is a payment processor.
Its not even close to being a cryptocurrency.
Nice bluff.
256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt-Coin. The only way to win the war against regulation. on: September 09, 2013, 11:56:57 PM
Yes, they are. And they all existed before bitcoin was born.

If cryptography is not the key protection of the currencies I mentioned, tell me what does.

Maria.

Centralization is.
Bitcoins is going to be centralized eventually.
And its not going to be by accident, its there by design.
257  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: September 09, 2013, 10:03:00 PM

Believing in God makes sense to me on many levels making me a better person in relation to others, which is good for my local community my family  and myself.


Why would believing in God make you a better person? There is one answer: fear. Deep down, those who believe in God are afraid that their "bad" behavior is being observed and will be punished. It's the exact same relationship that young children have with their parents.

Rejecting God is the final stage of growing up. It represents your acceptance of full responsibility for your actions, independent of any reward or punishment from a higher power.


On the contrary.
Atheists tend to reject the concept of sacrifice.
They want everything and the want it now before they die and rot in the ground.
welp I always end up saying things i regret on religious debates.
Now I feel like a hypocrite... Undecided
258  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: September 09, 2013, 09:02:39 PM

Believing in God makes sense to me on many levels making me a better person in relation to others, which is good for my local community my family  and myself.


Why would believing in God make you a better person? There is one answer: fear. Deep down, those who believe in God are afraid that their "bad" behavior is being observed and will be punished. It's the exact same relationship that young children have with their parents.

Rejecting God is the final stage of growing up. It represents your acceptance of full responsibility for your actions, independent of any reward or punishment from a higher power.


On the contrary.
Atheists tend to reject the concept of sacrifice.
They want everything and the want it now before they die and rot in the ground.
259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: the poopcoin awards on: September 09, 2013, 06:22:46 PM
here's the score.

h4xx0rcoin:1
(poop) nugget:1
goldcoin:1

Its a tight race, but only one can prevail.
260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / the poopcoin awards on: September 09, 2013, 05:55:22 PM
Hello and welcome to the poopcoin awards.
Here we will nominate the grand prize for shittiest coin.
I would have made it into a poll but there are just so many coins deserving of having the great honor of recieving this prestigious award.
My vote goes goldcoin.
This coin had all the right material from the start.
This coin started from hummble beginnings as a litecoin clone with just a little tweaks that made it just a little bit... shittier.
The endless spamming have only given me the more reason to believe that their team is hard working and dedicated enough to ensure that their coin earns the title and gains the top spot in the ehalls of these poopcoin awards.
Nominate which coin you think deserves the poopcoin award, now.
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