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601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][BEAN] Beaner coin the crypto coin for Mexico coming Cinco de Abril!! on: March 22, 2014, 09:41:33 PM
This is just what the altcoin market was crying out for  Tongue
602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Official Information Thread on: March 22, 2014, 09:17:24 PM
Ok, I just finished reading every post on the cryptocointalk thread.

There were about 2 mentions related to PoT and the potential exploits.

To sum up.

1. Kid said that if somebody was to spam multiple transactions they would be able to identify them. It would then be easy to agree to up the transaction fees to combat the problem rendering the spamming unprofitable

2. He designed it to be very much a game of chance in order for a PoT reward to take place. Therefore it is very difficult to get PoT reward via normal day to day transacting.

Conclusion.

I really do think there needs to be further testing using bots or these questions are going to come up time and time again.

If any dev is capable of putting together a bot capable of spamming FLT transactions using multiple wallet addresses I will provide a bounty for the sake of discovery.


603  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Official Information Thread on: March 22, 2014, 08:16:43 PM
Can you explain the "Proof-of-Block" a little more? I don't get it? You can get coins when you make transactions? Or am I misunderstanding? Couldn't you just endlessly send coins to your self?
You could endlessly send coins to yourself sure, but fees would eat up your funds, its based on addresses in the previous block converted to a hex format, a snippet of that address then used to search the previous block hash for matches, if there is a match the address receives part of the mining subsidy.  Its not very easy to have a match.  Because of this, there is additional checking the verifies the coinbase transactions including address, value, size etc further securing the blockchain and eliminating the possibility of disabling the functionality.

Theoretical situation to understand this better.

Let's say, to improve my chances, I have a bot that controlled 2000 FLT wallets each one having a balance of 1000 flutters (or more).

The bot sends 1000 flutters to 1000 addresses (it controls also).

It repeats this process by sending them back and forward or scales it up by adding more addresses and more funds.

It now has an extremely high chance of one or some of those transactions finding a match and is rewarded a PoT for an amount of FLT that is greater than all of the transaction fees.


In that scenario, would it be possible for somebody to take advantage of the PoT reward?


Their cpu power would be better off being sent to mining, they would end up more coin than spamming transactions. That's the whole point of Proof Of Transaction. It's pointless to botnet it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt it takes anywhere near as much CPU power to fire off multiple transactions as it does to mine.

Would be nice to hear the devs opinion on this.
604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Official Information Thread on: March 22, 2014, 05:39:18 PM
Can you explain the "Proof-of-Block" a little more? I don't get it? You can get coins when you make transactions? Or am I misunderstanding? Couldn't you just endlessly send coins to your self?
You could endlessly send coins to yourself sure, but fees would eat up your funds, its based on addresses in the previous block converted to a hex format, a snippet of that address then used to search the previous block hash for matches, if there is a match the address receives part of the mining subsidy.  Its not very easy to have a match.  Because of this, there is additional checking the verifies the coinbase transactions including address, value, size etc further securing the blockchain and eliminating the possibility of disabling the functionality.

Theoretical situation to understand this better.

Let's say, to improve my chances, I have a bot that controlled 2000 FLT wallets each one having a balance of 1000 flutters (or more).

The bot sends 1000 flutters to 1000 addresses (it controls also).

It repeats this process by sending them back and forward or scales it up by adding more addresses and more funds.

It now has an extremely high chance of one or some of those transactions finding a match and is rewarded a PoT for an amount of FLT that is greater than all of the transaction fees.


In that scenario, would it be possible for somebody to take advantage of the PoT reward?

605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Official Information Thread on: March 22, 2014, 01:07:53 PM
Interesting volume.

Very difficult to pin a price on FLT because of all the variations in block rewards...

This is a fun coin to play with! Smiley
606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [Rt2] ·rotoCoin· [1%IPO][DGW][N-Factor] · 288k Only - Launched! on: March 22, 2014, 12:47:55 PM
alty are you "imbecil" or what?

I don't like losing my btcs  Wink
607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [Rt2] ·rotoCoin· [1%IPO][DGW][N-Factor] · 288k Only - Launched! on: March 22, 2014, 12:40:00 PM
WTB Roto : 0.0003

PM with offers
608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Official Information Thread on: March 22, 2014, 11:46:52 AM
do we need to do anything special to our wallets to receive POS coins?
The only things required to receive POS rewards is that you have received the coins at least 30 days earlier and that your wallet is open.

thanks.

how many of you guys have hit a POT reward? i had one, the reward was about 4500 coins.

Just out of interest, what was the transaction size you did that triggered the PoT reward?
609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [Rt2] ·rotoCoin· [1%IPO][DGW][N-Factor] · 288k Only - Launched! on: March 22, 2014, 10:27:17 AM
UNO has a similar amount of coins.

At it's peak it was worth approx 0.03 btc

The IPO priced Roto at 0.03 btc

The initial scarcity might mean it is priced higher, will be interesting to see what happens once it hits the exchanges.
610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Official Information Thread on: March 22, 2014, 09:30:57 AM
I think I saw a similar post in the thread before...

The thread tittle should (perhaps) be changed to something like:

Introducing NEW Proof of Transaction - FlutterCoin FLT - PoB / PoW / PoS

I'm sure lot's of people still think this is just another shitcoin

Looking forward to seeing website also.
611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Official Information Thread on: March 21, 2014, 03:17:07 PM
When Vert was released it took weeks before it was really discovered.

Perhaps the same thing will happen with Flutter.
612  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Official Information Thread on: March 21, 2014, 11:38:06 AM
Feeling very optimistic about this coin.

Can't find any information about pre-mine?

There's no premine.

This coin keeps getting better Cheesy
613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Official Information Thread on: March 21, 2014, 11:05:56 AM
Feeling very optimistic about this coin.

Can't find any information about pre-mine?
614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][S7N] Se7eNcoin - The big change than you expected on: March 18, 2014, 03:14:03 PM
I'm out.

Because I don't understand the benefits of the things you are saying it does.
615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHA][UKC] UKcoin for UK Citizens Financial FREEDOM The from the ₤ Pound on: March 18, 2014, 02:06:52 PM
could of at least called it britcoin ...


Although a joke, that's probably not as stupid as it sounds, forget UK-Coin.

Britcoin Cheesy

Do it!!
616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KKK]Kikekoin Launch Announcement, 3/17/14 on: March 17, 2014, 07:44:34 PM
Burn in hell
617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin, Energy Saving Coin With a Fast Distribution *20 Exchanges on: March 15, 2014, 09:46:51 PM
Very cool concept! Smiley
618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS Join Our Thriving Community ★ 6 EXCHANGES on: March 14, 2014, 09:06:18 PM
Too many wallers.

Congrats on killing another coin.
619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS Join Our on: March 14, 2014, 04:06:39 PM
I think the "Wallers" (the guys that put up large sell walls) just killed this latest growing spurt!

Back down to 1 sat!

do you really think what you say?

They do it to every coin, this one is no exception.

You need massive firepower to get through those walls and even when you do, the Wallers will be back to stop growth.

Such idiocy. You don't wall up, you let growth happen or else you kill the coin and you end up in the litecoin sub satoshi markets.
620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS Join Our Thriving Community ★ 5 EXCHANGES on: March 14, 2014, 03:52:45 PM
I think the "Wallers" (the guys that put up large sell walls) just killed this latest growing spurt!

Back down to 1 sat!
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