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841  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]◥◤N2◢◣IPO◥◤100% POS◢◣NXT Clone◥◤New Features◢◣FULL Version Available◥◤ on: July 09, 2014, 02:35:11 AM
Where is the dev?

Haven't shown up for several weeks.
842  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TDY] Teddycoin-15%Free+75%IPO(Escrow)+10%Bounties丨100% POS丨Big Bounties丨 on: July 08, 2014, 02:38:08 PM
Please stay at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671413,
just leave the annoying `let me in` there.

After the free share phase, no those posts again.

The moderator see you create several threads on the same Coin again and
again, and they he is angry and delete your newly created thread again
and again.
It will hurt the community.

People likes to see posts with many pages, because that means it has an
active and great community.
843  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]◥◤N2◢◣IPO◥◤100% POS◢◣NXT Clone◥◤New Features◢◣FULL Version Available◥◤ on: July 05, 2014, 05:23:40 PM
Hi dev, glad to see you show up again.
Any news about the dev progress?
844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ERGO] Cutting edge functions | POW / POS | IPO | 10m coins | NEW on: July 03, 2014, 12:48:51 PM
show us the whitepaper.
OR
We can't even see any REAL innovation here.
845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ERGO] Cutting edge functions | POW / POS | IPO | 10m coins | NEW on: July 03, 2014, 12:33:04 PM
SCAM?Huh
846  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Release June | 100% POS | New Source on: June 30, 2014, 01:47:16 AM

I am a little bit worried because there is no cap on invested money.

I am pretty happy to invest 1 BTC if the cap would be 100 BTC.
But without a cap and figures thrown around like 500 BTC, the situation looks different.

So I didnīt come to a final decision.

As I mentioned before, the cap is irrelevant for the most part. Yes, you will get a smaller amount strictly speaking in numbers terms, but the valuation of each coin will be higher due to the larger amount raised in the initial distribution which typically sets initial valuation.



That canīt be right.
In a couple of months nobody cares about how much was raised. Then only technology, community and adoption counts.
But it will be a big difference if I own 1% or 0.2%. Thatīs simple 5 times more.

But thatīs not the whole point. I donīt like it to not know how much percent I will get. So itīs investing in the dark.

If we set a 1 BTC limit per person and a 250 BTC cap with a ratio of X Crypti to Y BTC, there are a finite amount of spaces in the pre-sale launch to get in on the ground floor of Crypti. We want as many people as desire to do so to be able to be a part of this launch. We decided it would be best to let the market dictate how the pre-sale would unfold.



If you set a invest limit of 1 btc per person, why set another limit 250 BTC of fund raise. it could me 10BTC or 100BTC which depend on how much people interested.

you just pretending that not understand. You just want investors compete with each other and only you will be the winner.  
Its ok if thats your plan,  but please admit it. don't pretending plz
your pretending make feel bad for this project.


BTW, there was another person called kora, he is a marketing person but not that strong on IT side.He is collecting 3000 active members on BTT, and hope new developers could work with him to carry out a fair project.  maybe you should have a look.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=620518.0

Did you read the initial question that was posed? If so, you would have seen that the person bringing up the issue wanted to know the exact amount of Crypti he would get for his investment. The only way to do that would be to make a limit on investment amount AND total amount so that it could be divided up in order for each investor to know exactly how much they would get for the investment they were going to make. In essence, you would have to say that 1 BTC would get you 250,000 Crypti for instance, and then you would also have to say that because of this, and the fact that the max distribution is 75,000,000, we could sell 300 shares in the launch. 300 x 250,000 = 75,000,000. In order for someone to know exactly what they are going to get, this has to be the method used. That or you have to be willing to adjust the total amount being created in the genesis block based on how many units are sold, which then their stake fluctuates anyways because they might buy 2 shares, so 500,000, but then if we end up selling 500, their 500,000 is now much less of the total.

I don't want to discourage anyone from posting but please ensure you understand the conversation at hand and do your research prior to posting LordHavok. Also, please try to avoid being overly inflammatory for no reason at all.

If you are one of the DEv team, due to your simple minded, this project will be a joke.  i forgive you due to your less of knowledge. please check how N2 distributed.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606233.0

can't believe you guys are not pretending to be simple minded. you guys axx  !!!!

Please keep the Qora promotion to the Qora thread and please keep the personal attacks (LordHavok) to yourself. I will not retaliate and start a flame war with you and I'm sure Qora is great. I think some of our dev team were investors in Qora.

Also, if I were you, I wouldn't use that N2 launch as an example against us. He is doing a 75% investor / 25% developer breakdown the same as we are. He also states that if all 1.5 billion (or is it 2 billion, he says both at different points right next to each other), he says that 1 billion will be distributed at 75% / 25% and then the other 500,000,000 coins will go 45% investors / 55% developer. How is it that you are promoting that but saying we are greedy scammers? 55% of 500 million coins to the developer?

Listen, you are starting to get out of hand and I have tried to be polite. But if you continue to be inflammatory and directly attack me for no other reason than you are apparently board, I am going to have to stop responding to you.
N2 is distributed in a quite fair way.
The price is low (0.025-0.05btc for each 0.5%),
and when the deadline met, the unsold coins are distributed proportionally to all the stakeholders.
847  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]SINGULARITY(SING) Anonymous Dual algo, Scrypt/x13 2.9mil ASIC/GPU Mine now! on: June 29, 2014, 10:47:49 PM
interesting coin
848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Release June | 100% POS | New Source on: June 29, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
When will the detail of IPO rules be released?
849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]◥◤N2◢◣IPO◥◤100% POS◢◣NXT Clone◥◤New Features◢◣FULL Version Available◥◤ on: June 29, 2014, 10:44:57 PM
how many days left for the next show up of the developer?
850  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain on: June 29, 2014, 10:34:51 PM
How is the development progress?
851  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [[PRE-ANN]] [NIQ] NEW INTERMEDIARY QUADRIN | 100% Transparent | 100% PoS| IPO | on: June 29, 2014, 10:31:46 AM
Is there a whitepaper?
852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain on: June 29, 2014, 10:23:49 AM
I've wait for too much time......tired.

Any timeline given?
853  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]◥◤N2◢◣IPO◥◤100% POS◢◣NXT Clone◥◤New Features◢◣FULL Version Available◥◤ on: June 29, 2014, 10:21:47 AM
N2Coin has been listed on bter.com
Please vote for N2Coin.

https://bter.com/voting


Remember this, is good. Everyday vote here for N2.

Make sense only if the developer shows more work.
854  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]◥◤N2◢◣IPO◥◤100% POS◢◣NXT Clone◥◤New Features◢◣FULL Version Available◥◤ on: June 27, 2014, 10:46:44 PM
Dev, can you tell us in more detail on the dev status and roadmap?
we need to build confidence on your developement
855  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Release June | 100% POS | New Source on: June 27, 2014, 10:44:53 PM
The rule of IPO can be unlished earlier than Jun 30.
856  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][CCB] CryptoClub ★ coming soon ★ BRIEF PRESENTATION ★ on: June 27, 2014, 10:39:05 PM
Broken english.
I can't catch what does it mean.
857  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]◥◤N2◢◣IPO◥◤100% POS◢◣NXT Clone◥◤New Features◢◣FULL Version Available◥◤ on: June 27, 2014, 10:36:37 PM
Dev should be more active in community relationships.
858  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: June 27, 2014, 10:31:56 PM
Hey,

I'd like to request to have full permission as a member.
Much appreciated, you can see thru my posts and threads I'm not a spammer.
I have post serious discussion on several topics, and my account is created over six months before.

Thanks
Shadowduck
859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]◥◤N2◢◣IPO◥◤100% POS◢◣NXT Clone◥◤New Features◢◣FULL Version Available◥◤ on: June 18, 2014, 01:31:30 PM
We're very sorry for the misunderstanding.

For the past few days, some people have been sending us message saying they could help us list N2 on Bter and Poloniex, which turned out to be a lie and we lost several btcs for this.

It is really a hard lesson to learn and we know it's no use crying over spilt milk so we've sent message to TwinWinNerD to see if he could help us contact Poloniex.

Thanks
N2 Dev Team
The most important thing we stakeholders care is DEVELOPEMENT, if developement goes well, it will be natural to be listed on major exchange.
860  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Release June | 100% POS | New Source on: June 18, 2014, 01:27:14 PM
For me, the biggest obstacle keeping me away from the presale is, that I don't know the percentage of total coins I will get when I buy with 1btc.

From the relative amount way you guys tell, I will get 1/total_btc_of_presale * 75%
but, when I spend the 1btc, I can never know the total_btc_of_presale unless I buy at the deadline.

So another problem comes, you guys can buy 10000btc at the deadline, and so every btc we ordinary buyer will decreased to 1/(total_btc_of_presale+10000) * 75%, and you hold 10000/(total_btc_of_presale+10000) * 75% in the shadow. And then..... all the 10000btc you spend can easily go back to your own pocket. Thus, you got more percentage than you claimed without any cost.

The rule I expect is:
----------------------
1. deadline is fixed.
2. price is fixed in each stage.
    Here I assume to encourage early adoption, buying in early stage will get a lower price.
    To be easy, 1M coins can be treated as a batch. So every buyer must buy 1M *n coins, where n is a integer.
3. When coins are sold out OR deadline reached, presale is finished.
4. For the scenario that when deadline reached, there are still some coins left unsold, they should be distributed proportionally to every buyer.
Would be better to have deadline not only in time but in btc too. For example max amount limited by 200 btc and so if all 200 btc will be collected in first 2 weeks, IPO should be closed. I agree that we need limit in btc for one person. 25 % for devs is so big. Devs will get btc for their previous work and for their future work they will get 15% of coins. After coin will be widely accepted it will be driven by community.
If price is fixed, then the expected btc amount is settle down, aka deadline in btc.
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