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I have a question, when i was first looking into crypto in the early days there were heaps of the physical bitcoins going around, wish i had of bought em up they were so cheap haha anyways i never really understood how they worked, are they like a paper wallet but just engraved in a valuable object? is this how the HD master key work? i want my coins off the grid, until needed, i do not need the stake i want to remove them completely from my computers and take no risks, basically what i want is physical SDC coins or bullion each holding around 10k, how do i even start to do this? because in the near future i think it may be dangerous to hold large amounts on our computers, we will be a definite target too government agency's, i want to get active now and prevent tears latter.
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Those are the blackphone guys right? I read somewhere that it's one of the most expensive phones out there because all of the software is subscription based. That and the unlocked phone is priced very high. I'm not sure i only just found this but im going to look into it more i think the Dev team might be able to use some of the concepts and ideas as future inspiration for the shadow project possibly also, so thought i would share it. |
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I'm a lot of things but one thing i am not is greedy i would never hurt someone else for my own gain i have morals and that is the reason i hate people like Bob he has left now and the conversation was over, can we move on now? and if you doubt my integrity look at my post history i am one of the very few hero members never directly involved in a scam, i have also given investment advice to many people with no intention of getting anything in return, i am a nice bloke and that is my pride..don't mess with my pride.
Hate and I, I, I, I, I No one cares about you and tbh you hating on me is music to my ears.., You see, to me you're a flat out nobody. But Im in your head.. you hate me.. I'm something to you.. LOL..  Enjoy your bagholding man. HAHA..No your not, i would of never spoken to you ever if you had not come in here talking shit about some virus you caught, you are a nobody thats why you must take from others to fill the empty void that is your sad pathetic excuse for a soul, now good bye, take your virus and crawl off somewhere and die because your as bad as the criminals that BTC was created to escape from, you just take from normal people with no remorse, you should be ashamed, but your not, because your just like them, the very people crypto was created to be used against, are now controlling it, just a new generation of low life's, It's a shame |
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I'm a lot of things but one thing i am not is greedy i would never hurt someone else for my own gain i have morals and that is the reason i hate people like Bob he has left now and the conversation was over, can we move on now? and if you doubt my integrity look at my post history i am one of the very few hero members never directly involved in a scam, i have also given investment advice to many people with no intention of getting anything in return, i am a nice bloke and that is my pride..don't mess with my pride.
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If you guys really wanna invest in a social marketing coin Viral is the only one. SMAC tried but failed and lets be honest... its not like they have an Adam of their own to slingshot this coin to the moon.
just saying..
Where and how failed SMAC? And if SMAC had an Adam, I wouldn't be writing this. Ummmm Id say close to no support or volume is a big indicator that SMAC has failed hard. You're wrong.  SMAC is different, general rules don't apply here. Unlike other coins, you don't need someone to dump on to make profits with your investments since there is a monthly buyback. And no sell volume isn't bad at all. Good luck man.. in the 12 months of buybacks i'll have made 12x that on Viral and all the other coins in the mean time. Why wait a year to see real returns and not play all the money makers. LMAO... Hey Bob your not the only person here who has made lots of money on crypto the difference between you and me is your a dishonest piece of shit so fuck right off ok... keep judging and holding that bias and you'll continue to make scraps while I buy new cars like you buy new shoes! $ 100k off $290 on quark without rippen anyone off beat that bitch and i have done much more since then hahah still never ripped anyone off your a loser im a winner end of a story LMAO.. I never ripped off anyone.. and fyi.. Bitbay alone made me over 250K usd in 3 weeks. And that was just one coin i worked on.. Add up all the others and my previous statement comes true.. I buy new cars like you buy new shoes. Well this turned into a shit show.... You guys are sure giving SMAC a good BCT vibe.... On other notes, Boxxa is the website updated with the new wallet? If not that should be done ASAP. Thanks man I don't know anything about Bobsurplus one way or the other.....however seeing as dadon was arguing against making money at others people's expense, I would say that indeed he DID give SMAC a good BCT vibe. Yeah and notice how he is gone now...oh and i never made money on other peoples expense wtf i bought those quark on ebay my first alt coin i got lucky, and it's called a market i buy and then sell to people who want them at a higher price fairly basic shit bro, never made money on anyones expense never ever say that again, i bought cheap and sold, that is called trading FFS!!! |
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 like that.
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I don't buy new cars or shoes hahaha any intelligent person would reinvest the money they make on crypto into precious metals like i do when the economy collapses i will be buy those cars you bought for nothing hahaha you make my eyes roll.
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If you guys really wanna invest in a social marketing coin Viral is the only one. SMAC tried but failed and lets be honest... its not like they have an Adam of their own to slingshot this coin to the moon.
just saying..
Where and how failed SMAC? And if SMAC had an Adam, I wouldn't be writing this. Ummmm Id say close to no support or volume is a big indicator that SMAC has failed hard. You're wrong. SMAC is different, general rules don't apply here. Unlike other coins, you don't need someone to dump on to make profits with your investments since there is a monthly buyback. And no sell volume isn't bad at all. Good luck man.. in the 12 months of buybacks i'll have made 12x that on Viral and all the other coins in the mean time. Why wait a year to see real returns and not play all the money makers. LMAO... Hey Bob your not the only person here who has made lots of money on crypto the difference between you and me is your a dishonest piece of shit so fuck right off ok... keep judging and holding that bias and you'll continue to make scraps while I buy new cars like you buy new shoes! $ 100k off $290 on quark without rippen anyone off beat that bitch and i have done much more since then hahah still never ripped anyone off your a loser im a winner end of a story |
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If you guys really wanna invest in a social marketing coin Viral is the only one. SMAC tried but failed and lets be honest... its not like they have an Adam of their own to slingshot this coin to the moon.
just saying..
Where and how failed SMAC? And if SMAC had an Adam, I wouldn't be writing this. Ummmm Id say close to no support or volume is a big indicator that SMAC has failed hard. You're wrong. SMAC is different, general rules don't apply here. Unlike other coins, you don't need someone to dump on to make profits with your investments since there is a monthly buyback. And no sell volume isn't bad at all. Good luck man.. in the 12 months of buybacks i'll have made 12x that on Viral and all the other coins in the mean time. Why wait a year to see real returns and not play all the money makers. LMAO... Hey Bob your not the only person here who has made lots of money on crypto the difference between you and me is your a dishonest piece of shit so fuck right off ok...beat this faggot $100k on quark off a $290 investment.... never ripped anyone off..but you..hope the money is worth the karma. |
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This is a seed node issue. My business servers were moved to a different provider and the seeds were the only ones left on the provider. Balance ran out and servers terminated about 2 days ago it seems.
Servers are coming back online but may need to add nodes manually until the DNS gets updated. Give me a few minutes to restore it.
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Any ball park speculations for SDC price after market release?
Seems highly undervalued here given the potential.
It all depends on what is being offered on the market and the quality of the merchants. If it's good stuff (or rather, good bad stuff) people will be willing to pay a premium over the fiat value and we'll see the price rise. Don't expect any rapid rises, because most of the spent coins are going to end up right back on the exchanges for approximately what the product seller was planning to get for them. But he'll be willing to accept a little more , and that will happen if we have a lot of people looking to use a limited number of coins. But if the market fills up with crap and scammers, we're going to have to figure out a way to address that before we see any big run-ups. We're also going to have to deal with a lot of bad press once some fatal heroin is sold and the terrorists, human traffickers and child abusers discover Shadow and it makes the news. I don't foresee many legitimate businesses publicly accepting SDC for that reason, but there is a lot of business to be conducted and money to be made without them. I think it is not that simple.. demand will grow, the distribution will be accelerated , and price can't stay low.. And for example, I sell 2 silver orders for SDC, and don't plan to sell them for $. Cryptos are more than money to me  That's a good plan. I don't have use for anything I can't buy in a local store so I might not be shopping much on the market. The thing is though, if everything on the market turns out to be garbage word will spread quickly, and then how will you use your SDC? Getting the tech down is the first part, but it won't really be a market until there is something to buy and that part is up to the community. I seriously doubt the market will be full of shit, It hasn't happened to any of the previous darkmarkets so don't know why it would start now even some of the markets that are almost unknown have quality stuff, most people selling on the darkweb have fairly high standards when it comes to quality and purity. But it needs to have some kind of system that removes items that people show no interest well would be nice if possible. Or just have a separate section of the market for items that get little interest or attention and vendors with bad trust ratings so it's not cramping up the items that do get a lot of attention and keeps the dishonest vendors from the honest ones, sort of like a naughty corner for useless items and untrustworthy vendors, your not censoring the market just arranging it in a way that i don't have to see those items and vendors if i don't want to, because most products and vendors will be legit but we want to keep everything looking nice and clean. What might be necessary is ensuring a listing can only be posted with an address from a wallet that controls the address. Otherwise I can see competitors ratfucking each other- post a listing of an improbable product with a ridiculously low price, but using your competitor's address. People send him coins and he can't deliver anything and it makes him look like a crook. Reputation is going to be critical with this market and the only way to build a rep will be to associate it with a stealth address. This is just an example of one of the practical details that will have to be worked out. You bring up a very valid point there bro,now you have mentioned it i can see that happening also, needs to be addressed and im sure it can be easily, but that is something i think most would of never thought of so well done. |
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Any ball park speculations for SDC price after market release?
Seems highly undervalued here given the potential.
It all depends on what is being offered on the market and the quality of the merchants. If it's good stuff (or rather, good bad stuff) people will be willing to pay a premium over the fiat value and we'll see the price rise. Don't expect any rapid rises, because most of the spent coins are going to end up right back on the exchanges for approximately what the product seller was planning to get for them. But he'll be willing to accept a little more , and that will happen if we have a lot of people looking to use a limited number of coins. But if the market fills up with crap and scammers, we're going to have to figure out a way to address that before we see any big run-ups. We're also going to have to deal with a lot of bad press once some fatal heroin is sold and the terrorists, human traffickers and child abusers discover Shadow and it makes the news. I don't foresee many legitimate businesses publicly accepting SDC for that reason, but there is a lot of business to be conducted and money to be made without them. I think it is not that simple.. demand will grow, the distribution will be accelerated , and price can't stay low.. And for example, I sell 2 silver orders for SDC, and don't plan to sell them for $. Cryptos are more than money to me That's a good plan. I don't have use for anything I can't buy in a local store so I might not be shopping much on the market. The thing is though, if everything on the market turns out to be garbage word will spread quickly, and then how will you use your SDC? Getting the tech down is the first part, but it won't really be a market until there is something to buy and that part is up to the community. I seriously doubt the market will be full of shit, It hasn't happened to any of the previous darkmarkets so don't know why it would start now even some of the markets that are almost unknown have quality stuff, most people selling on the darkweb have fairly high standards when it comes to quality and purity. But it needs to have some kind of system that removes items that people show no interest well would be nice if possible. Or just have a separate section of the market for items that get little interest or attention and vendors with bad trust ratings so it's not cramping up the items that do get a lot of attention and keeps the dishonest vendors from the honest ones, sort of like a naughty corner for useless items and untrustworthy vendors, your not censoring the market just arranging it in a way that i don't have to see those items and vendors if i don't want to, because most products and vendors will be legit but we want to keep everything looking nice and clean. |
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Isidor review could take 6 months and i wouldn't complain because i didn't donate, and i wouldn't doubt it wasn't coming either because rhyno said it was and i trust him, all i can say is it's going to be one hell of a review if SDC wasn't the shit, the review would of been done and finished a long time ago..i see the delay of the review as an indicator of Isidor buying up as much as he can before it's released or he loves SDC that much he is pulling it apart with a fine tooth comb, i suspect a bit of both.
as far as i know, review is not delayed because of Isidor. Isidor asked for more documentation ages ago, and ryno told that he was busy and didnt prepare the documents.shadow side is the reason for the delay...
as far as i see...sdc dev thinks that review is less important than marketplace or other developments
then, why did they push for review that time? What skip says is basically correct. I edited out the speculation. Ryno has also mentioned getting to Zeuner once Shadow's core was updated, which it now has been. no isidor is reason for delay because he is the one who wants to study it so deeply he could of done a basic review this is what he was paid for he was not paid that much, his decision. If memory serves; -the scope of the review was increased to include compares with other cryptos -the ball is firmly in the Shadow court (and has been for a little while), and Zeuner awaits extra info to finish up. I interpret this as a sign Zeuner is taking matters very seriously (since by all accounts he has his reputation to consider) and wants to get everything correct. Well i honestly don't know and i didn't donate so i am only commenting on it, yes i do think he is taking it very seriously, and i understand people donated and want to see results, but i do really feel we should just relax a bit more about the price and the review and all the other shit everyone complains about, good things come to those who wait. |
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Isidor review could take 6 months and i wouldn't complain because i didn't donate, and i wouldn't doubt it wasn't coming either because rhyno said it was and i trust him, all i can say is it's going to be one hell of a review if SDC wasn't the shit, the review would of been done and finished a long time ago..i see the delay of the review as an indicator of Isidor buying up as much as he can before it's released or he loves SDC that much he is pulling it apart with a fine tooth comb, i suspect a bit of both.
as far as i know, review is not delayed because of Isidor. Isidor asked for more documentation ages ago, and ryno told that he was busy and didnt prepare the documents.shadow side is the reason for the delay...
as far as i see...sdc dev thinks that review is less important than marketplace or other developments
then, why did they push for review that time? What skip says is basically correct. I edited out the speculation. Ryno has also mentioned getting to Zeuner once Shadow's core was updated, which it now has been. no isidor is reason for delay because he is the one who wants to study it so deeply he could of done a basic review this is what he was paid for he was not paid that much, his decision. |
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Isidor review could take 6 months and i wouldn't complain because i didn't donate, and i wouldn't doubt it wasn't coming either because rhyno said it was and i trust him, all i can say is it's going to be one hell of a review if SDC wasn't the shit, the review would of been done and finished a long time ago..i see the delay of the review as an indicator of Isidor buying up as much as he can before it's released or he loves SDC that much he is pulling it apart with a fine tooth comb, i suspect a bit of both.
as far as i know, review is not delayed because of Isidor. Isidor asked for more documentation ages ago, and ryno told that he was busy and didnt prepare the documents. shadow side is the reason for the delay... as far as i see...sdc dev thinks that review is less important than marketplace or other developments then, why did they push for review that time? Sorry skip but i don't want to be rude but i think you know very little, you have shown this by only focusing on the very few weak points this project has, bitcoin did not need a pump group it did not die because it did not have a pump group, it had a real world use it was new it had a purpose and a vision, it was innovative like shadow and unlike 95% of all alts around, this is why SDC don't need a pump group, and until you can understand that, i can not take you seriously bro, i like you, but your pushing it with the way you focus only on the weaknesses and not the incredible strengths this project has. people here are afraid to make negative comments about shadow, because they know that some shadow fanatics will attack them it is normal i focus on our weak points...that way, we can improve...and better we finalize the review story...negative or positive...just finalize i appreciate for all good things done, thanks dev them, well done. How a pump group would ever help SDC i will never understand, and you know i hold a lot of SDC, and i still can not think of a good reason for a pump group to be involved in anyway here, even for my own benefit it's not a good reason. who said pump group, did i said pump group??? earlier i asked about market maker, is it what you mean? dont tell me, about holding lots of sdc....i was in the first 5 at the rich list before 89k spike....it means i had good reasons to hold that many sdc that time then i sold nearly all of them, beacuse of some fanatics here what? you sold because of some fanatics here i thought you sold so the price could go up, you contradict yourself more then anyone i have ever met, and yes i was up in those top wallets oh wait i still am. that was first 100k i sold so the price could go up dadon you know very well how many i was holding that time anyway, it became like dick swing contest here, i am done you are right i am wrong is there anyone to answer where is coolstroyteller LOL i see that skip60 is back and bitching about price as it tanks....We all know what that means if you have been around here for awhile ....BTW did any of you see that BOB was supporting the thunderclap? Looks like we got a storm brewing on our hands for shadow yes pookielax31, we are waiting for price increase, hopefully it comes soon...i am tired of writing here I have a big dick i so wouldn't try to contest with it and if i start swinging it just get out of the way |
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Isidor review could take 6 months and i wouldn't complain because i didn't donate, and i wouldn't doubt it wasn't coming either because rhyno said it was and i trust him, all i can say is it's going to be one hell of a review if SDC wasn't the shit, the review would of been done and finished a long time ago..i see the delay of the review as an indicator of Isidor buying up as much as he can before it's released or he loves SDC that much he is pulling it apart with a fine tooth comb, i suspect a bit of both.
as far as i know, review is not delayed because of Isidor. Isidor asked for more documentation ages ago, and ryno told that he was busy and didnt prepare the documents. shadow side is the reason for the delay... as far as i see...sdc dev thinks that review is less important than marketplace or other developments then, why did they push for review that time? Sorry skip but i don't want to be rude but i think you know very little, you have shown this by only focusing on the very few weak points this project has, bitcoin did not need a pump group it did not die because it did not have a pump group, it had a real world use it was new it had a purpose and a vision, it was innovative like shadow and unlike 95% of all alts around, this is why SDC don't need a pump group, and until you can understand that, i can not take you seriously bro, i like you, but your pushing it with the way you focus only on the weaknesses and not the incredible strengths this project has. people here are afraid to make negative comments about shadow, because they know that some shadow fanatics will attack them it is normal i focus on our weak points...that way, we can improve...and better we finalize the review story...negative or positive...just finalize i appreciate for all good things done, thanks dev them, well done. How a pump group would ever help SDC i will never understand, and you know i hold a lot of SDC, and i still can not think of a good reason for a pump group to be involved in anyway here, even for my own benefit it's not a good reason. who said pump group, did i said pump group??? earlier i asked about market maker, is it what you mean? dont tell me, about holding lots of sdc....i was in the first 5 at the rich list before 89k spike....it means i had good reasons to hold that many sdc that time then i sold nearly all of them, beacuse of some fanatics here what? you sold because of some fanatics here i thought you sold so the price could go up, you contradict yourself more then anyone i have ever met, and yes i was up in those top wallets oh wait i still am. |
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If the review is as good as i think it will be and comes before the market, the fact the reviewer is so highly respected and regarded in this industry a good review from him will just certify the talent of our Dev team, and when the market releases shit will hit the fan hard, say goodbye to all competition, we will have the BTC advantage, first truly trust less untraceable crypto, first truly decentralized market etc code reviewed by world renowned cryptographer.
I struggle to find any reference to Isidor Zeuner with regard to Cryptography other than self published articles and on his own linked-in. I think world renowned might be a bit strong. No doubt he knows his stuff but normally other people refer to your abilities if you are to be considered world renowned. EDIT: I may be comparing chalk and cheese but compare google results for Kristov Atlas to Isidor Zeuner. I have not looked into him that much but i was under the impression he was fairly well known in the crypto world, and when i said world renowned yes i meant world but that is the small part of the world that is involved in crypto, but yeah maybe world renouned was a bit strong, i get passionate about SDC and sometimes over exaggerate shit. skip im not a fanatic, if your hinting at that, if things were not moving along here i would, i always have, i do not get attached to investments, i have learnt from this mistake. |
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Isidor review could take 6 months and i wouldn't complain because i didn't donate, and i wouldn't doubt it wasn't coming either because rhyno said it was and i trust him, all i can say is it's going to be one hell of a review if SDC wasn't the shit, the review would of been done and finished a long time ago..i see the delay of the review as an indicator of Isidor buying up as much as he can before it's released or he loves SDC that much he is pulling it apart with a fine tooth comb, i suspect a bit of both.
as far as i know, review is not delayed because of Isidor. Isidor asked for more documentation ages ago, and ryno told that he was busy and didnt prepare the documents. shadow side is the reason for the delay... as far as i see...sdc dev thinks that review is less important than marketplace or other developments then, why did they push for review that time? Sorry skip but i don't want to be rude but i think you know very little, you have shown this by only focusing on the very few weak points this project has, bitcoin did not need a pump group it did not die because it did not have a pump group, it had a real world use it was new it had a purpose and a vision, it was innovative like shadow and unlike 95% of all alts around, this is why SDC don't need a pump group, and until you can understand that, i can not take you seriously bro, i like you, but your pushing it with the way you focus only on the weaknesses and not the incredible strengths this project has. people here are afraid to make negative comments about shadow, because they know that some shadow fanatics will attack them it is normal i focus on our weak points...that way, we can improve How a pump group would ever help SDC i will never understand, and you know i hold a lot of SDC, and i still can not think of a good reason for a pump group to be involved in anyway here, even for my own benefit it's not a good reason. |
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Isidor review could take 6 months and i wouldn't complain because i didn't donate, and i wouldn't doubt it wasn't coming either because rhyno said it was and i trust him, all i can say is it's going to be one hell of a review if SDC wasn't the shit, the review would of been done and finished a long time ago..i see the delay of the review as an indicator of Isidor buying up as much as he can before it's released or he loves SDC that much he is pulling it apart with a fine tooth comb, i suspect a bit of both.
as far as i know, review is not delayed because of Isidor. Isidor asked for more documentation ages ago, and ryno told that he was busy and didnt prepare the documents. shadow side is the reason for the delay... as far as i see...sdc dev thinks that review is less important than marketplace or other developments then, why did they push for review that time? Sorry skip but i don't want to be rude but i think you know very little, you have shown this by only focusing on the very few weak points this project has, bitcoin did not need a pump group it did not die because it did not have a pump group, it had a real world use it was new it had a purpose and a vision, it was innovative like shadow and unlike 95% of all alts around, this is why SDC don't need a pump group, and until you can understand that, i can not take you seriously bro, i like you, but your pushing it with the way you focus only on the weaknesses and not the incredible strengths this project has. |
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