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901  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 30, 2014, 08:38:12 AM
It is best for the reputation of SDC to not approach any dark markets, when Evan first released Dark the armory was going to accept it until they discovered it was closed source but Evan never approached them, they heard about it on the grapevine and just decided they would, if you build it they will come, we do not have to lift a finger it will just happen Wink

Sure, I wasn't suggesting SDC make any kind of special arrangement with these markets.

What I meant is, bluntly, does anybody here buy or sell their dope on dark markets? It's been decades since I've used dope (so long ago, they were still calling it dope  Grin) so I don't know anything about how it is trafficked now. If so, what premium do you think people would be willing to pay to use SDC with ZK over BTC, which could theoretically be traced and create problems for buyer or seller? And would not a person living in a country where you get executed for that activity be willing to pay an even higher premium? Using the coin like that will provide a consistent and reliable price advantage of SDC/Shadow relative to BTC.

Now a real coup for the coin would be to provide it in a form that is easily usable by whores. Even where that is not a serious crime it is still a major embarrassment to be caught at it and men will and already do pay huge premiums to avoid detection, which can lead to divorce and loss of one's career. You would need an Android light wallet (because whores use phones not computers) and you would also need one-touch conversion to a fiat debit card. Secure communication with at least photo transfer through the wallet would probably also be necessary, and it would have to be as easy to use as SMS, Facebook, Skype, or any of those things that are intended for very common people. The reason why I think prostitution will be the killer app for crypto is that a whore has no suppliers she has to pay, and thus has no need to quickly dump the coin. It will also make prostitution arrests a thing of the past, because at least in the US if you can't prove funds changed hands you can't prove prostitution.
with the new wallet you don't even need a site like silkroad you have encrypted messaging and anonymous transactions in the one client, all you would need is some kind of board or forum that listed peoples SDC chat handles and you could do the business straight from the wallet with no centralized market that could ever be taken down by the feds, it's almost unstoppable and the possibility's are endless, say im selling gold i could post my public chat key on some site that listed peoples chat keys and the product they were selling maybe a reputation system would be used to stop scammers, but people could just get my key tell me how much gold they wanted and basically with one click send me the payment and the shipping info, and it's completely decentralized almost impossible to take down unlike silkroad etc, it's delicious hahaha. and yes perfect for prostitution, political activists in corrupt country's whistle blowers as said endless possibilitys.
902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 30, 2014, 08:22:31 AM
WoW!! just saw the language options in the new wallet never noticed before..you continue to amaze me this is rarely an option in a wallet but vital, well done.
903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 30, 2014, 08:18:29 AM
I love the trolls who just call scam with no evidence at all.  Say what you want about ShadowCash.  If you don't like it fine.  But calling a scam with no evidence is pretty pathetic.

If we can design an appropriate marketing campaign I would also be willing to donate.  I know some crypto news sites offer paid articles.  Would be nice to get on Coindesk I think.

It's not sinking in is it? This coin is a scam because it will never have value. The big holders will dump and they will ruin the name. They have been dumping since the latest release. The broader crypto community will not buy this coin because the brand has been destroyed by the fud trolls that come from shadow. It's neat what the Ryno did here, but FFS it's not the best anon. Not by a long shot.
been holding for 4 months dumped nothing only bought more do not intend to dump anytime soon and i will do it slowly when i do proably many years from now.
904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 30, 2014, 08:06:09 AM
The only "problem" of SDC is

a) that people have been burned off too many times by scamcoins / p&d coins that were trying to get into the anon market with false promises

b) the lack of technical knowledge to evaluate whether a solution is real or scam (which led to (a) in the first place)

For me it is clear that SDC is in the running in the anon market along with DRK and Cryptonote coins. Is any solution perfect? No, as most solutions have big tradeoffs, but at least they aren't vaporware / promises / "white papers" etc.

Technically speaking, it'd be interesting for the dev team to run a testnet simulation to check anonymity and bloat / scaling impact, as well as spam attack vectors against the blockchain.

No. That's not the problem. The problem is the toxic community of this coin. I thought I would be safe to buy after a dip from 40k, but it has just kept going down. The community here attacked so many coins that it just can't win adoption. There is no healing of the wounds. There are too many bad memories. You can not trust this community. You can not trust the biggest holders because they actively go out and ruin the name of the coin. If you bought thinking you found a good thing, you didn't you found the poison pill. Get out before you get dumped on.

The irresponsible devs who delete every post should keep my warning up. It will protect new investors who will lose money here. This coin will never have value. By deleting this message, you just contribute to the scam that is shadow.

I am one of the biggest holders and i do not bash other coins unless it's here and it's very rare i don't go to other threads and stir shit like ever! so  Roll Eyes and the dev is unresponsive because he is actually developing unlike the other 90% of devs who just talk shit the more the dev is on the thread the more i get nervous, unless nothing is happening and your not hearing from the dev's that's a different story, but when you see so much achieved in a few short months and the dev is silent but things are still being released and they actually work how there supposed too it's a good sign some individuals here have been active in other threads big deal you think any true investors with real money give a toss, uhmm no now if rhyno was going into other threads bashing other coins they might, but he doesn't so they don't the community's behavior has nothing to do with the morals or ethics of the developers and this is a fact.
905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 30, 2014, 07:52:10 AM
It is best for the reputation of SDC to not approach any dark markets, when Evan first released Dark the armory was going to accept it until they discovered it was closed source but Evan never approached them, they heard about it on the grapevine and just decided they would, if you build it they will come, we do not have to lift a finger it will just happen Wink
906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 30, 2014, 05:39:26 AM
If someone sets up a donation address( would prefer someone involved with development ) i will send 1k over i haven't sold any i'm still holding strong for 4 months now only adding to my stash so i guess people do accumulate during lows, the swings don't bother me i know i am in possession of a revolutionary product and literal gold mine, I appreciate all the hard work the Devs have done for this project and my investment it is the most amazing thing i have seen blossom out of the crypto jungle, one day it may just change the world and help me retire very early in life, so hats off to you Team shadow and ryno rest up hope you feeling better soon mate, btw to the community sorry for the outburst the other day at Smooth it was uncalled for should of bit my tounge but i see how hard the team is working and how much tireless hours have gone into this, been here a long time and never seen innovation and development like this  and i am a bit defensive of it, so yeah sorry, happy new year people 2015 WILL BE !!the year of the shadow and you better believe it.
907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 29, 2014, 05:17:58 PM
My wallet won't SYNC any ideas? i have like 12 connections but will not SNYC.

What version? You should be on 1.3.0.6.
yes im on the latest downloaded the bootstrap it was all working until yesterday


I did request a noob friendly maintenance mode that would do some of these things so i assume it will come down in a furtur update.

try this in the Help>Debug Window>Console

Code:
rewindchain <number>

Note: replace "<number>" and put the amount of blocks you want to rewind. I would try going back a 100 blocks to start with. Then restart.

Code:
rewindchain 100


Thanks mate will do.
908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 29, 2014, 05:16:24 PM
My wallet won't SYNC any ideas? i have like 12 connections but will not SNYC.

What version? You should be on 1.3.0.6.
yes im on the latest downloaded the bootstrap it was all working until yesterday


Obviously u tried restarting the wallet? And your PC maybe?

Launched my wallet a few mins ago and synced up fine. No probs here.
I always try to fix problems myself before asking, that is always the last option, yes i tried restarting my computer and my wallet.
909  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 29, 2014, 10:55:06 AM
My wallet won't SYNC any ideas? i have like 12 connections but will not SNYC.

What version? You should be on 1.3.0.6.
yes im on the latest downloaded the bootstrap it was all working until yesterday
910  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 29, 2014, 10:25:54 AM
My wallet won't SYNC any ideas? i have like 12 connections but will not SNYC.

911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 27, 2014, 12:05:42 PM
hey everyone! did you know cars are really just the same as a horse and carriage because they both have wheels, i know crazy huh! just like SDC and Cryptonote are the same because they both have ring signatures..

You mean like if rhinos and ponies are the same 'cause they're both mammals + have 4 legs? Smiley



LOL, just havin some fun  Grin
Thank god someone understands my logic.
912  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 27, 2014, 11:56:50 AM
Rhyno's got this in the bag http://www.coinssource.com/vote/ no way he can lose  Tongue
913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 27, 2014, 11:39:45 AM
hey everyone! did you know cars are really just the same as a horse and carriage because they both have wheels, i know crazy huh! just like SDC and Cryptonote are the same because they both have ring signatures..
914  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 27, 2014, 11:25:46 AM
So in other words you are saying SDC is basically the same as cryptonote once again, but claimed a few posts ago you never compared the two, your smart as shit, but lay off the drugs bro, you can't even remember what you said yesterday.
915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 27, 2014, 11:09:26 AM
^^^ What he said
916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 & White Paper MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 27, 2014, 10:59:08 AM
My case is that every single one of your posts compares SDC to Cryptonote, and then you act like i brought up some random coin when i brought up bytecoin and that is a cryptonote coin, my case is your just a cryptonote troll and i'm done talking with you.

Once again, look carefully at the quote you copied from above:

Excellent post CST.  Worth restating is the fact that cryptonote simply obfuscates the outputs, whereas Shadow destroys them... a huge difference.

I was not the one that compared Shadow with cryptonote, Longenecker was. I responded to the innaccuracy in his post, just as I've responded to the many inaccuracies in yours.

SO you didn't say that SDC and Cryptonote was basically the same, you didn't say that?
917  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 IS ALIVE ! ** MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 27, 2014, 10:56:50 AM
Bear in mind a crytographer is involved in Shadowsend, Techovert. If, as you say, ssv2 is an implementation of cryptonote, then why would Ryno collaborate with him? Ryno certainly has the skill to build an implementation of cryptonote without any help…

I'm not familar with this technovert. What else has he accomplished?

Assuming your developer is not a cryptographer and employed the assistance of one, that speaks well of him. There are certainly aspects of shadowsenc that are different from cryptonote (such as the way it integrates with the non-anonymous SDC), and any changes or differences in context should be reviewed by a cryptographer, yes.



see every single post hahaha you just can't type a sentance without cryptonote in it can you Tongue
918  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 & White Paper MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 27, 2014, 10:55:37 AM
Excellent post CST.  Worth restating is the fact that cryptonote simply obfuscates the outputs, whereas Shadow destroys them... a huge difference.

I notice that I was quoted above.

There is no huge difference guys. Shadow is using almost exactly the same protocol (and methods of providing anonymity) as cryptonote with some minor tweaks (fewer denominations for each digit, which either way is a reasonable but somewhat arbitrary trade off between chain size and anonymity set size)

rest my case, just a broken record, don't talk about cryptonote if you don't want me to bring up bytecoin the original crtptonote coin.

What case?

I was quoted, and then someone claimed that "cryptonote simply obfuscates the outputs, whereas Shadow destroys them" which is complete and utter nonsense. The subsequent discussion explained how minting and redeeming has nothing to do with anonymity and in fact could impair it under some conditions.

Everyone reading it except you seemed to get the point. Open your mind a bit, some good info might find its way in there.
My case is that every single one of your posts compares SDC to Cryptonote, and then you act like i brought up some random coin when i brought up bytecoin and that is a cryptonote coin, my case is your just a cryptonote troll and i'm done talking with you.
919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 & White Paper MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 27, 2014, 10:48:23 AM
Excellent post CST.  Worth restating is the fact that cryptonote simply obfuscates the outputs, whereas Shadow destroys them... a huge difference.

I notice that I was quoted above.

There is no huge difference guys. Shadow is using almost exactly the same protocol (and methods of providing anonymity) as cryptonote with some minor tweaks (fewer denominations for each digit, which either way is a reasonable but somewhat arbitrary trade off between chain size and anonymity set size)


rest my case, just a broken record, don't talk about cryptonote if you don't want me to bring up bytecoin the original cryptonote coin.
920  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | ShadowSend v2 & White Paper MANDATORY WALLET UPGRADE! ⋆⋆⋆ on: December 27, 2014, 10:46:36 AM
It's not the same. Why would had our devs bother to spend thousands hours of coding if so...  the way you say this is a bit misleading IMHO.
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I never said it was the same. I said the anonymity uses the same underlying approach as cryptonote so the resulting anonymity is the same (or worse, if minting/destroy is used too much, but that is up to the users I suppose). I acknowledged some minor differences, but I don't believe they are particularly significant in the area of anonymity.

As for why thousands of hours were spent on it, you would have to ask them. Presumably they thought that reimplementing it all was a good idea for whatever collection of reasons. I guess the market will decide.

Question, can cryptonote coins slot in updated technology to there code without starting from scratch? because i know SDC can without starting from scratch so yeah maybe it's based on the same technique as cryptonote but it can be improved and it's faster and slimmer and the wallet is the best looking and functioning wallet in the crypto world with chat and many extras coming soon so right now we win  Tongue we will have mobile wallets in the near future with all this tech would like to see any of the cryptonote coins pull that off.
Here is my first post ever to you, you were comparing SDC to cryptonote, and i brought up bytecoin the first cryptonote coin, every single one of your posts has been the same.
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