So you like to play this game of pretending to post innocent comments and then crying foul to the world on different threads - "all I said on their thread was kittens are cute, and they attacked me. Don't go near vTorrent, they even hate kittens." ....
He made a comment about a rich list and it is bullshit that one address is holding and buying so many coins. You think that's good for distribution?
I dont.
.... If you think girls are going to want to use vtorrent over purevidz your insane. Purevidz is and will be sexy and so easy to use my grandmother can use it from her grave, as long as she's got some wifi and a smartphone.  Purevidz and chill is the future, dont miss out man. You been holding this coin for too long, cut your losses and move on to the winner. So now we've confirmed you're just here for faux concerned trolling to promote some web site. I'm not bad at troll patrol and you just made it to the top of the troll patrol list. So, no 'attacking you' on this post. I'm just letting you know how I stand, so both of us know the ground rules from here on out. |
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@devs
Please put ZCash protocol on the development road map.
Great suggestion, anon payments would add a lot of value to the torrent ecosystem and users, for all the obvious reasons. In case you hadn't noticed, vTorrent already has stealth addresses for anon payments. ZCash protocol is just the best possible version there is as it doesn't require mixing. Here is some of the vTorrent code for RingSigs (ringsigs are used by Boolberry, Monero, Shadow) #ifndef SDC_RINGSIG_H
#define SDC_RINGSIG_H
#include "stealth.h"
#include "state.h"
#include "types.h"
class CPubKey;
enum ringsigType
{
RING_SIG_1 = 1,
RING_SIG_2,
};
const uint32_t MIN_ANON_OUT_SIZE = 1 + 1 + 1 + 33 + 1 + 33; // OP_RETURN ANON_TOKEN lenPk pkTo lenR R [lenEnarr enarr]
const uint32_t MIN_ANON_IN_SIZE = 2 + (33 + 32 + 32); // 2byte marker (cpubkey + sigc + sigr)
const uint32_t MAX_ANON_NARRATION_SIZE = 48;
const uint32_t MIN_RING_SIZE = 3;
const uint32_t MAX_RING_SIZE_OLD = 200;
const uint32_t MAX_RING_SIZE = 32; // already overkill
const int MIN_ANON_SPEND_DEPTH = 10;
const int ANON_TXN_VERSION = 1000;
// MAX_MONEY = 200000000000000000; most complex possible value can be represented by 36 outputs
int initialiseRingSigs();
int finaliseRingSigs(); |
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@devs
Please put ZCash protocol on the development road map.
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The mining approach taken by SPR is a good one. Private keys being at risk when using pools is a neat idea.
As we've seen, it makes no difference. The only thing that increases mining is the price of SPR.
With SPR, decentralisation is therefore a factor of price.
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Coins, I think it's time for you to post four ladies in the forum to signify the quadruple bottom. A very strong buy signal.  you need to be telling everyone your out of 10 score for the whitepaper first. perhaps that might spur on the buying After reading the first sentence, I'm thinking a 1 out of 10... you spell decentralize with an S  Jk, will be back tonight with a real analysis.  I think you'll find you spell it wrong. I keep telling everyone that Bitcoin it a British invention, as you can see from the Satoshi whitepaper, he spells favour with a u, not favor as you Yanks spell it.  So, its decentralisation. Got it  |
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Coins, I think it's time for you to post four ladies in the forum to signify the quadruple bottom. A very strong buy signal. you need to be telling everyone your out of 10 score for the whitepaper first. perhaps that might spur on the buying |
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In my experience very few businesses are running full nodes; instead they mostly rely on third party APIs.
Many developers do not run nodes which are reachable to the outside world-- uses a lot of bandwidth.
Most miners use pools and do not run a full node at all.
my node uploads about 700MB a day .... i wouldnt call that a lot of bandwidth i was under the imprerssion that x-thin and compact blocks are fairly economic to run in modern clients ? It sounds like we have a little more decentralisation than I thought going into this. Just too few full nodes, perhaps. |
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It would only be a guess on my part to say how many nodes are run by businesses, i know for sure tho that i am just a man on the street who is running a full node 24/7. i cant understand why everyone else is not.  You make Bitcoin what it is. Good for you. |
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Can't find the specific source, it may have been on Slack...but the evolution is around: ....
I have been thinking about the name thing for a while.
I still think the master node services can win despite the name. SPR is not necessarily about a currency. It's about software products and services.
+1 for ServiceNodes When you run programs on any system, you run 'services'. |
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when asking a question about how many use fullnodes. the question seems to not be right.
by asking how many of them are run by Bitcoin focused businesses and Bitcoin developers?
it will be the majority. because your literally covering the majority of use-cases within the question
it would be better to have maybe 3 different polls
businesses
individual devs
individual users
or even as more specific questions.
how many CLUSTERS of nodes are run by a single business/individual (minimal sybil)
Well, feel free to provide an opinion on your offered list there are over 300,000 merchants that accept bitcoin. but only ~5400 nodes (most are using middle men.) making the business to node %/ratio small there are only a few thousand 'dev's' but ~5400 nodes. making the devs to node %/ratio LARGE though we cannot easily know exactly who is running what. it is atleast fair/logical to say that most businesses are not running nodes. and most devs are. although some businesses. single devs may be running more then one node per entity you sometimes run into criticism, but from my point of view your contributions are incredibly insightful and helpful. thanks! |
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It's impossible to reach a mildly correct conclusion for this question... We can maybe study the network and see what nodes have similar IP's and which of these IP's are known people, but this still doesn't give us much information (or information that is precise). There's no other way I can think of at the moment to study this.
I assume the correct % is on the lower end. Highly doubt it goes beyond 10%, but this is just me speculating. As said, many companies go through payment gateways, so I assume only companies that run exchanges, pools and online wallets have their own nodes.
From all this I think we can conclude we have more to worry about regarding centralization in what concerns hashpower per region. Having a lot of hashrate in China is more likely to be a danger than the distribution and number of companies running nodes (or not running them).
The basic starting point was that every user = a full node. With the advent of pools, full nodes stopped being needed for mining. |
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when asking a question about how many use fullnodes. the question seems to not be right.
by asking how many of them are run by Bitcoin focused businesses and Bitcoin developers?
it will be the majority. because your literally covering the majority of use-cases within the question
it would be better to have maybe 3 different polls
businesses
individual devs
individual users
or even as more specific questions.
how many CLUSTERS of nodes are run by a single business/individual (minimal sybil)
Well, feel free to provide an opinion on your offered list |
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So much rich-list bullshit going on here..
As if it's first time you guys see manipulation in crypto..
That saddest part about this discussion is no one is focusing on haw badly vtr has failed to build something useful. Go back to your pure vidz scam just trying to fud vtr. Wow, the guy cant even make a comment without being attacked. No wonder no one wants to buy and hold and support vtr. Seriously? Using terms like 'bullshit going here' is just an innocent comment that doesn't deserve addressing? Please, tell me how I should behave when someone is disrespectful. |
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Of the 5,300 full nodes listed on Bitnodes or Coindance, just how many of them are run by Bitcoin focused businesses and Bitcoin developers? In other words, how many ordinary individuals or ordinary businesses who are not focused on Bitcoin development run nodes - the ordinary folk on the street? For example, * BTCC has around 100-120 Bitcoin nodes * There are well over 100 Bitcoin developers, so another 100 full nodes * There are firms like Tradeblock, Chainalysis and Ellipitic who between them need lots of nodes to do analysis, so probably another 200 between them (if not much more) So in just this small sample we have something approaching 10%. Why does this matter? Well, it goes towards the centralization argument. All these firms and arguably most of the individuals can be censored and controlled by targeted governmental actions. So we need to know and not just sweep this issue under the rug. |
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So much rich-list bullshit going on here..
As if it's first time you guys see manipulation in crypto..
That saddest part about this discussion is no one is focusing on haw badly vtr has failed to build something useful. Go back to your pure vidz scam just trying to fud vtr. Actually, he has been around for a while. I even think he bought some vtr too. Odd chap. Very negative. Wants cast iron 100% guarantee that everything is as it should be. When that is proven he wants to be able to buy a few million vtr for about $5 in total outlay. Just look at Circle....raised $millions from investors with no guarantee of success, now they have spent millions on Bitcoin development, not on a shitcoin, but the mother ship, they are pulling out. Death and taxes are the only guarantees you're gonna get. As for manipulation? Look at how the global economy collapsed. Mixing good quality loans with dip shit loans brought down banks, governments and nations. So yeah, crypto is the fucking evil demon in this world. Get fucking real. |
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EDIT: I'm a hero member. I don't know what to do with my hands.
It's a mandatory tradition, no...obligation...that you open all your windows, stand in front of the mirror and shout "I'm a Hero", "I'm a Hero", "I'm a Hero", "I'm a Hero", etc., while doing the following dance:  |
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I enjoy being in the community - can't you tell by my obnoxious number of posts?
What I meant to say was, everyone except you |
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Panic-buy incoming at Bittrex?
Yeah the power of 0.2 BTC buying gotta punch the bears in the guts. So much buying! The whole exchange volume is half the size of the volume of factom. Lol. Yeah, Factom raised what, $20m so far? Are the founders just recycling the money they raised to keep the price pumped so they can slowly exit their early founders coins?  now that really is: lol |
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You do realise that if vTorrent hits $100m, everyone around here buying at these low levels will be seriously BTC rich  |
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Panic-buy incoming at Bittrex?
It's about time this guy came out  |
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