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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: India Bans Crypto Currencies on: April 05, 2018, 05:15:52 PM
Another article. Yes Bitcoin is still not completely banned in india.
"The cryptocurrency debate in India has turned on its head.

The Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has initiated a crackdown on cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin, even as it considers a proposal for issuing its own digital currency.

“It has been decided that, with immediate effect, entities regulated by RBI shall not deal with or provide services to any individual or business entities dealing with or settling VCs. Regulated entities which already provide such services shall exit the relationship within a specified time. A circular in this regard is being issued separately,” the RBI said in a statement.


This may mean the end of the road for those who own bitcoin or its peers, as well as the many virtual currency exchanges. The existing business ties must be wound down in the next three months.

“Internationally, while the regulatory response to these tokens are not uniform, it is universally felt that they can seriously undermine the AML (anti-money laundering) and FATF (Financial Action Task Force) framework, adversely impact market integrity and capital control,” RBI deputy governor BP Kanungo explained at a press conference on April 05. “And if they grow beyond a critical size, they can endanger financial stability as well.” AML and FATF are international policy frameworks aimed at combating money laundering and terrorist financing.

Virtual currency players in India are naturally disappointed with the RBI’s decision.

“I don’t believe this is the right direction that the central bank has taken. This will cause panic among a few million people in India who are already using cryptocurrrencies,” said Sathvik Vishwanath, co-founder of Unocoin, a virtual currency exchange in the country. “If they want to launch their own digital currencies, they don’t need to ban existing ones.”

“This means that banks will not probably give loans to cryptocurrency exchanges. And the transactions will also get affected,” said Shubham Yadav, co-founder of of Coindelta, another cryptocurrency exchange. “However, the silver lining here is that they still haven’t banned it fully.”

The central bank, meanwhile, has constituted an inter-departmental group to study the feasibility of a digital currency backed by the RBI. “This will be in addition to the paper currency that we have. It also holds the promise of reducing the cost of printing of notes,” Kanungo said. The committee will submit its report by June 2018.

Some cryptocurrency players see this as good sign. “RBI issuing their own virtual currency just shows that soon there will be an ecosystem where cryptocurrencies will be central to the ecosystem and the government will not be able to ignore it,” said Coindelta’s Yadav."
382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: India Bans Crypto Currencies on: April 05, 2018, 05:07:28 PM
"The Reserve Bank of India (RBI) is considering issuance of its own virtual currency (VC) while instructing financial institutions to refrain from and cut off business relations with private entities that are dealing with virtual currencies .
 
Several central banks all over the world are debating the introduction of a fiat digital currency as opposed to the private digital tokens, which are growing in popularity, said the RBI. This currency will be issued by the central bank and constitutes the liability of the central bank. Digital currency, if issued, will be in circulation in addition to the paper currency and holds the promise of reducing the cost of printing currencies, said the central bank.
 
“While many central banks are still engaged in the debate, an inter-departmental group has been constituted by the Reserve Bank to study and provide guidance on the desirability and feasibility to introduce a central bank digital currency,” said the central bank.  The report will be submitted by June-end.
 
The RBI, however, has frowned upon private cryptocurrencies and ring-fenced regulated financial entities from entities dealing in these digital currencies. The financial entities by the RBI are instructed to stop having a business relationship with entities dealing with virtual currencies forthwith and unwind existing relationship within a period of three months.
 
“Digital tokens by private currencies have been getting attention worldwide for their speculative value. While regulatory responses to this token currency are not uniform internationally, it is universally felt that they can seriously undermine the AML(Anti-Money Laundering) and FITF ( Financial Inclusion technology Fund) framework, adversely impact the market integrity and capital controls. If they grow beyond a certain size, they can endanger financial stability as well," said B P Kanungo, Deputy Governor, RBI.
 
Reserve Bank had repeatedly cautioned users, holders and traders of virtual currencies, including bitcoins, regarding various risks associated with dealing with private virtual currencies previously. The central bank, however, acknowledged the potential benefits of the underlying blockchain technology and said that it should be utilised to benefit the economy."

From Business Standard article.
383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What happened to GPU mining (late March 2018)? on: April 05, 2018, 07:16:53 AM
Is it practical to buy this another piece of crap? Can you imagine what profit may this asic eth miner with the hash speed of 180MH/s? now can you sell it after you realize that even this crap is not also profitable? I think there's a lot of people there that will going to make a solution for this.. I think the real Ethereum Fork must be on its way... A 100% ASIC resistance algo.. I read about it in some articles I hope that this is true...

If ASIC miners prove to be profitable (which they are), I guess many will buy them, and in that moment GPU mining of Ethereum will be over.  Also I wouldn't call something a crap, at least not just because I don't like it. Difference between mining around 30 MH/s and 180 MH/s, is big difference.
Ethereum Fork could happen, I head something about it too, but I think that would not solve anything. And about that 100% ASIC resistance algo... So far I have understood one thing: Everything is possible, nothing is 100% clear.
Yes ETH fork won't do any good. It is now only in the hands of AMD or Nvidia or a asic resistant coin that can challenge the might of ethereum. Man ! one by one all of the big guys are down. We thought ETH will be safe, but no Sad
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What happened to GPU mining (late March 2018)? on: April 05, 2018, 07:14:37 AM
We need more competition.....competition in asic development. Bitmain is capitalism gone wrong. No competition, complete monopoly and exploitation. There is no company that can stand against Bitmain that's why they are doing whatever they want. If there was competition then prices would be low and so would be the chance of them mining the hell out of those asics before releasing them. Until AMD and Nvidia develops a mining specific gpu or until a asic resistant coin surpasses ETH's market capital it will be dark ages for gpu mining.

samsung's getting into asic development, i'm interested to see where that goes

I don't think so that will ever happen. Samsung is such a big name there is no need for them to touch this hot market of altcoins. I don't know where you get your news from but this is definitely a fake one.
385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: AMD mining DEAD NOW with Bitmain E3 on: April 05, 2018, 04:14:19 AM
Do you think that AMD cards will be completely out of the mining game now due to ethash miners ? What is the future of Vega rigs now ?

Is there any possibility that AMD will manufacture a new gpu with mining in mind ?

Why are you solo-ing out AMD cards? NVIDIA cards are as much affected as AMD card at this time. Difficulty affects everyone regardless and the bitmain E3 is more efficient than both AMD or NVIDIA. Could you elaborate why AMD cards are dead and NVIDIA are not? As far as i know AMD cards are even more power efficient than NVIDIA cards once modded.
Nvidia cards are affected but not as much as AMD. Affect on Nvidia cards is more like a side-effect but AMD has become the main target due to less algos it can mine and main dependency on ETH.

Those who already have AMD rigs will continue to run them of course but no one is going to build a new AMD rig now but people will still continue to make Nvidia rigs. If you think that they both are equally affected then you can see the price difference in upcoming days b/w AMD and NVdia cards. AMD cards are going to become cheaper, I am already seeing the price cuts happening with AMD.


Sorry but you are wrong. NVIDIA cards are just as affected because ALL GPUs mainly depend on ETH. If ETH mining dies, all other algo/coins will also die because the massive farms will eat up profits on all other coins, regardless if that is an AMD or NVIDIA specific algo. There is no "side-effect" to NVIDIA cards only. Everyone will die. What you can do is post on the ETH github page and petition devs to create a fork that destroys ETH ASICs.
If this is not an ASIC then what good would it do ? The only hope now is if Nvidia or AMD produce new mining specific gpu or an asic resistant coin which can challenge ethereum's market capital.
386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Fujicoin implements SegWit: Update Core Wallet !!! on: April 04, 2018, 09:25:26 PM
This is mining, not announcements.

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What happened to GPU mining (late March 2018)? on: April 04, 2018, 09:21:06 PM
And it turns out that the F3 shown in that video is apparently NOT an ETH ASIC miner.

Bitmain released their E3 today for preorders - delivery NOT 'TILL MID JULY (indicating that they do NOT have many units on hand).

180 Mhash
800 watts

(they CLAIM these are minimums, but they'd have to do a TON better to change the below commentary).


About the same hashate and same power draw as a well-tuned 6-card  RX 480/580 "BIOS modded for memory straps" rig.
Slightly LESS hashrate and slightly MORE power draw than a well-tuned 6-card GTX 1070 rig.
NOT exactly a GPU mining killer.

Note that they would have to sell well over ONE MILLION of these units to achieve 50% of the current ETH network hashrate.
For perspective, current Bitcoin network hashrate equates out pretty closely to 2 Million S9 units (but PART of that hashware is LW.COM internal-usage miners, some is Avalon 721/741 units, some is EBang miners, et cetera - Bitmain PROBABLY has sold a total of ONE MILLION S9 units but it took them almost 2 YEARS to manage that despite having THE best performance miner on the market).

The E3 is NOT a GPU mining killer - in fact, I doubt it's going to make much more than a SMALL DENT in ethash mining profitability before ETH goes Proof of Stake and the REAL shakeout happens.

On the positive side, they DID get the price at $800 to a reasonable level, and probably WILL sell as many of these units as they choose to make since that's a LOT cheaper than building a GPU rig that can match the performance.



It is nice to be positive buddy. I notice u often are. But lets look at the chart

https://etherscan.io/chart/difficulty

On 1st Jan 2018, difficulty is about 1938 TH.
On 1st April 2018, it is about 3200 TH.

This is 1262 TH higher, or 65% higher, in just 3 months and this is without the ETH miner being sold to public. Ethereum price did not increase by 65% to keep mining at the same profitability. That why profitability has dropped. In fact ETH price dropped while difficulty increases. The manufacturers ramp up production in anticipation of future price increases of the coin but coin prices wont rise up like last year. We have overcapacity of mining equipment manufacturing and yes, I know u disagree with me.

65% increase in 3 months is roughly about 18% monthly with compounding included. Thus, if the coin price increases by 18% a month, and network difficulty increases by 18% a month, that would make profitability to be the same. Thats not the case. I say overcapacity of mining equipment exist even without this new eth miner. And now this ethminer appears...


This increase is without a bitmain coming in to pump up difficulty. Thus, difficulty can increase at a higher rate now because a new manufacturer is now pushing it up too, not just the current ones. This is why competition in mining is stupid. It hurts those at the bottom, the miners most.

Just my 2 cents.
We need more competition.....competition in asic development. Bitmain is capitalism gone wrong. No competition, complete monopoly and exploitation. There is no company that can stand against Bitmain that's why they are doing whatever they want. If there was competition then prices would be low and so would be the chance of them mining the hell out of those asics before releasing them. Until AMD and Nvidia develops a mining specific gpu or until a asic resistant coin surpasses ETH's market capital it will be dark ages for gpu mining.
388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nvidia Titan V Review on: April 04, 2018, 09:11:37 PM
These are useless for mining. ETH mining with gpu is dead anyways. Until Nvidia or Amd release a new gpu specifically made for mining it will be sad for gpu mining.
389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 04, 2018, 09:07:22 PM
With current difficulty, this Bitmain Garbage can only mine for a round $4 a day. Imagine all the batches are come a live and then difficulty sky rocketed way higher.
Both this ASIC miner and GPU have to say good bye to ETH.
Btw, are you sure that this is the best Bitmain can do? I somehow have intuition that they have more powerful hashing board to mine ETH under their wrap still. Way more powerful that this garbage.

This garbage has officially killed ETH gpu mining for now. Until ETh dev comes up with something or AMD or Nvidia develops a new gpu specifically designed for mining.
This garbage is still very low cost and very scalable. Good for mining farms. So it will increase difficulty on all the coins as big gpu farms will switch coins.
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 04, 2018, 09:02:57 PM
LIMIT was 5 per customer Now it's sold out.
Instant Buy button was ACTIVE a few minutes ago when I checked.

It does NOT appear to be sold out - but it's possible I checked right after someone canceled or "failed to pay in time" on an order.


Maybe they are just playing the supply and demand game. Also as others have stated it is going in and out of stock recently.
391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 04, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
Now that's the same power required by my 80 Mh/s miner but more than a double of this hash rate. Seems like a game over for my GPU miners.

Time to make a few gaming rigs out of them and then sell, then maybe buy off these ASICs.

Re-read what you just wrote.  Especially the part where you said,"Time to make a few gaming rigs out of them and then sell". Really pay attention to this. Study the words. Maybe you will find a reason why NOT to buy this crap!! Wink
ROFL !!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Bitmain's economy model in a nutshell.
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 04, 2018, 06:27:18 PM
disappointing product in terms of hash/watts. my 6 GTX 1070 is doing much better hash at lower watts. on the other side, it is a good news, it means GPU mining will not be killed by this products.
Now compare the cost and space of your rig with this. This thing no matter how weak it is will hurt gpu mining a lot.

It is very low cost and is very scalable. So expect big mining farms using this which increase the difficulty of ETH and then those GPU farms will switch to different algo. It will increase difficulty on all coins.
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: AMD mining DEAD NOW with Bitmain E3 on: April 04, 2018, 05:57:25 PM
Do you think that AMD cards will be completely out of the mining game now due to ethash miners ? What is the future of Vega rigs now ?

Is there any possibility that AMD will manufacture a new gpu with mining in mind ?

So ETH (Etrash) is not the only algorithm that can mine AMD cards. There is another ZEC(Equihash). It seems that you have forgotten or do not know the history of mining - and the bitcoin mining, and litecoin mining over time ASIC was forced out of the graphics card. There will be other algorithms that are still resistant to ASICs.
The thing is nobody will build brand new AMD rigs. Of course you run your AMD rig and make profit. Again Nvidia cards are better for zec mining. Until AMD makes a new gpu that is especially good for mining, their mining game is over. Like I said I am already seeing price cuts in AMD cards.
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: AMD mining DEAD NOW with Bitmain E3 on: April 04, 2018, 05:06:08 PM
Monero will be the way!
2 days for the FORK!

It will be even worse. All of ETH miners will jump in along with those who were already going to mine it. Difficulty will skyrocket.

This thing is not even a ASIC, it like a more compact panda miner but it will have an affect that no other ASIC ever had. It will disrupt the whole gpu mining network.

But I do think for some reasons that GPU miners are big believers and pillars of Ethereum. So most probably devs will change the algo but what good will it do if this is not an ASIC ?

The only soln. will be if Nvidia and/or AMD develops a new gpu which will be very efficient in mining or we need some coins that can challenge the market capital of ETH.


 

how would it be worse than what it is right now? Difficulty is already high because of ASICS on the network, once they are disabled the hashrate goes down and so does difficulty.  Even all the hashers from ETH wouldn't make a dent compared to the asics that have been killing monero difficulty.  Also lower hashrate on ETH means lower difficulty so the hashrate will be distributed amongst both coins instead of just on ETH.
I was talking about Monero fork's difficulty skyrocketting. As ETH difficulty rises they start moving toward it increasing it's difficulty.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 04, 2018, 04:57:10 PM
If this is not an ASIC then how will changing algos do any good ?
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: AMD mining DEAD NOW with Bitmain E3 on: April 04, 2018, 04:19:30 PM
Do you think that AMD cards will be completely out of the mining game now due to ethash miners ? What is the future of Vega rigs now ?

Is there any possibility that AMD will manufacture a new gpu with mining in mind ?

Why are you solo-ing out AMD cards? NVIDIA cards are as much affected as AMD card at this time. Difficulty affects everyone regardless and the bitmain E3 is more efficient than both AMD or NVIDIA. Could you elaborate why AMD cards are dead and NVIDIA are not? As far as i know AMD cards are even more power efficient than NVIDIA cards once modded.
Nvidia cards are affected but not as much as AMD. Affect on Nvidia cards is more like a side-effect but AMD has become the main target due to less algos it can mine and main dependency on ETH.

Those who already have AMD rigs will continue to run them of course but no one is going to build a new AMD rig now but people will still continue to make Nvidia rigs. If you think that they both are equally affected then you can see the price difference in upcoming days b/w AMD and NVdia cards. AMD cards are going to become cheaper, I am already seeing the price cuts happening with AMD.
397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: AMD mining DEAD NOW with Bitmain E3 on: April 04, 2018, 04:16:33 PM
Monero will be the way!
2 days for the FORK!

It will be even worse. All of ETH miners will jump in along with those who were already going to mine it. Difficulty will skyrocket.

This thing is not even a ASIC, it like a more compact panda miner but it will have an affect that no other ASIC ever had. It will disrupt the whole gpu mining network.

But I do think for some reasons that GPU miners are big believers and pillars of Ethereum. So most probably devs will change the algo but what good will it do if this is not an ASIC ?

The only soln. will be if Nvidia and/or AMD develops a new gpu which will be very efficient in mining or we need some coins that can challenge the market capital of ETH.


 
398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 04, 2018, 02:26:41 PM
I think the E3 uses 16 x BM1680 Neuralprcessing Chips and one Asic or FPGA for the controlling.

But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR. Grin
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !

(12 x RX550) vs Vega:

Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)

Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)

TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)

ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)


Bitmain should start making gaming GPUs. Nvidia and AMD will go out of business  Grin
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: AMD mining DEAD NOW with Bitmain E3 on: April 04, 2018, 02:15:31 PM
will be fun in July trolls, million units of the e3 + millions of units of nvidia volta hehe, eth difficulty 5x of today hehe. Today 3.3, in august 23.7 hehe

Only morons still mine ETH. There are countless more profitabla coins out there. Even ethash ones. But it takes time and dedication to follow the crypto world and know.

To be honest I am not even sure ETH is going to recover from this fall.

It doesn't matter if you mine ETH or not. This will affect all the coins.

Right now either newbies or big farms are the one who mine ETH. Now due to these Bitmain miners they switch to other coins.

They will come after your coin and increase the difficulty. Doesn't looks too good now eh ?
400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: AMD mining DEAD NOW with Bitmain E3 on: April 04, 2018, 01:23:40 PM
I Hope Ethereum and others Ethereum algorithm coin will fork to ASIC Resistance like Monero.
But 180 MH ASIC and for July shipment is no problem on chain.
what if they mine with them before selling?

OFC they mined the hell out of them. Now they are releasing it because they have already made enough profit and eth might go pos in future so this is the perfect time. They also have antminer F3 which I don't know if it's true or not could mine ethash at a real ASIC level.

Even this small device would kill ethash gpu mining due it's low cost and scalablity.
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