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1141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 05, 2017, 01:11:01 PM
I just want to send money from here to there. Can i still do that ? (for nearly free, and today)




I can give you a Bitcoin address if you wish to check ? I think  the minimum you can send is 1BTC

Hmmkay?
1142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 05, 2017, 11:02:38 AM
Spiderbrain is probably referring to Dave Kleiman, who may have been one of the group of people who collectively invented Bitcoin and blockchain and identified themselves collectively as Satoshi Nalamoto

Yup, I think the timing of Satoshi disappearing and Kleiman's health is an interest coincidence, but I don't think Satoshi is one person. CSW seems to have established himself as a bullshitter but I don't think that's mutually exclusive with being part of the Satoshi club. But who the fuck knows, right?

Yeah Gav seemed pretty convinced at one point (CSW) but then later wondered if he had been spoofed..

He just does not seem to have the personality/attitude of Satoshi .

1143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 05, 2017, 10:57:07 AM
Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Mining Corporation COMING SOON!

link?


It was a joke.
1144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 05, 2017, 10:56:50 AM
This ICO nonsense is a storm in a teacup- and a temporary one.

The results of it will be positive IMO.

This was just the excuse  for the psychological/technical reaction to $5000 / hitting key fib extension level.

All very yawn.

This is a correction/profit taking/FUD weak hands dropping their coins - before next leg up.

Nothing else to see here.
1145  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 05, 2017, 10:54:26 AM
I don't think this is over yet.

NEO at $1 bil market cap doesn't make any sense.

Also does anybody know how will all the Chinese pump and dump ICOs intend on getting the necessary money to refund their backers?
I don't think the market will have the necessary liquidity to refund all those backers...




ICOs that are already traded - do not  have to refund - as far as I can see.

ICOs that have raised funds- simply  have to give the funds back - if they have not spent the funds- then its just returning funds to users...

If they have not traded them yet -nor spent the funds - then liquidity should not be an issue
1146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 05, 2017, 10:50:42 AM
I don't think this is over yet.

NEO at $1 bil market cap doesn't make any sense.

Also does anybody know how will all the Chinese pump and dump ICOs intend on getting the necessary money to refund their backers?
I don't think the market will have the necessary liquidity to refund all those backers...




Makes no sense why?





1147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 05, 2017, 09:52:28 AM
Spiderbrain is probably referring to Dave Kleiman, who may have been one of the group of people who collectively invented Bitcoin and blockchain and identified themselves collectively as Satoshi Nalamoto

HalF?

Ah... I was wondering if he was referring to Hal Finney ^

There are many guesses....

My money Bitcoin is not on Dr CW that is for sure

1148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 05, 2017, 09:32:17 AM
Anyway China "newses" is Bullish as fuck...


ps -

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/putin-s-aide-seeks-100-million-to-rival-china-in-bitcoin-mining

http://www.altcointoday.com/how-dutch-banks-are-at-the-forefront-of-european-blockchain-initiatives/


How many other countries governments are now wanting to be "top dog"

Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Mining Corporation COMING SOON!

 
1149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 05, 2017, 09:25:49 AM
satoshi's (who is dead by the way)

Evidence?

He has none. But I suspect half of satoshi is dead.

Half ?
1150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 05, 2017, 09:02:39 AM
Meanwhile back in the land of the Red Dragon.

Some fresh Chinese newses (7.30 this morning)

China's block chain industry is expected to walk in the forefront of the world  (Hint: Google  chrome will translate  it for ya)


http://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2017-09/05/content_5222688.htm?from=groupmessage&isappinstalled=0


source: http://www.gov.cn

lol





I cannot see China standing in the way of it either- in fact I wonder if they are more leaning towards positioning themselves at the front of it, and early.




Deafo bearish Wink doooooooom etc etc /s


yawn
1151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 04, 2017, 05:25:30 PM
I've sold all my bitcoins, bitcoin is dead now. Sell everything while you can, I've warned you.

Gosh.

Indeed- guess that is it then if TheRealProhpet fuckknuckle says so... it must me so.

It has been a blast.

doom etc etc
1152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 04, 2017, 04:49:39 PM
Plenty of ICOS will pop up that are not greedy- have decent models and a decent chance of becoming something IRL.

There is a difference.

Regulations are one way of working this out - to some degree - dirty word.

The only ICO company, and I mean *ONLY* one that makes any kind of logical sense to me is Salt Lending. Even then, I wouldn't invest in their token because 1) regulators will step in at some point, and 2) they will eventually have many competitors in the space.

All the rest are complete scams/hype/vaporware.

Guess what- when the  regulations are in place...

Players wishing to fill the space and raise funds will pop up - the calibre of them should improve somewhat.

ICOs are not a mythical magical unknown never before seen thing.. sure they have a catchy new name in this blockchain space... but its just raising money.

I think the market will provide a streamlined solution for raising funds and investing in those funds- using technology- using blockchains....  I mean why would this NOT happen? surely you don't think this area of finance/business will somehow be missed out by Fintech? I guess that it wont be.. it will be and is already very much engaged within this area..  they just need the regs for completing their framework.


I believe this niche will be fully filled given time- and will produce no doubt some companies via ICOs (which just like all ventures and new risky seed stage investment ideas) will be shit and destined to fail  (just like conventional investments) ....... but some- will no doubt produce the goods...

It is simply a different (and as of yet UNREGULATED)  mechanism for fundraising -  nothing more , nothing less..

1153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 04, 2017, 04:28:10 PM
Like a whores drawers
1154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 04, 2017, 04:08:00 PM
ICOS that are rip offs-  are rip offs...

What about ones that are not?

No one needs 100 million to start a company that has no legs...

Plenty of ICOS will pop up that are not greedy- have decent models and a decent chance of becoming something IRL.

There is a difference.

Regulations are one way of working this out - to some degree - dirty word.

The free market would have gotten there on its own- personally I would have liked to have seen it -I am sick that way.... but no! the regulators will step in (In China- USA and Europe) and regulate these ICOS

For all  the other "projects" the market will STILL find a solution - they will still be a thing...

There will be two pools- regulated and unregulated.

For better or for worse.

As above so below

(As long as  there are two markets  I am happy that the regulated one is being born- and there is no way on gods green earth it is avoiding the trend...of the influence of blockchains and digitisation and ultimately to some degree democratisation - though the barriers to entry for companies wishing to raise funds will  be higher- but the mechanisms for the average joe or average Zhang to invest - will be greater. As the Chinese love to gamble and invest- I see them engaging in this new regulated ICO market with vigour and enthusiasm)

Or something


(Also any serious Zhang worth his salt will be running investments through a fund in HK or Macau  Wink )
1155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 04, 2017, 03:31:16 PM
Why are we bleeding So much...

Is there Any bad news..?

Paris Hilton endorsed some crap ICO on twitter and spelled Bitcoin, BitCoin.  Grin

https://twitter.com/ParisHilton/status/904456098035286016

(Oh, China banned companies from raising money via ICO, but I actually think that is good news.)

Confirmed
1156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 04, 2017, 03:00:52 PM
... the only catch being they will have to block ip from the Chinese mainland.
...
I fully expect NEO to be top of the pile! (In china) ...

I'm confused about this

The blocking of China mainland IP was referring to the Red Pulse and upcoming ICOs
in the future they will allow ICOs again. Once they announce the new strict regs

Because the Chinese don't want to ban ICOs
they want to ban 95% of them and for them to
be carried out in a very regulated fashion.

NEO is perfectly positioned for this transtion - and
any competition they have now - won't come from a crappy ICO

They have positioned themselves- and have very interesting connections
Fosun et al. The work they have done with LawChain/identityChain and digital asset registration
And the dbft blockchain NEO - puts them right where they need to be to execute the smart contracts
under the new regulations for ICOs in China.

PS - Ban is temporary IMO

PPS- a prediction = I believe we will see some of the biggest "ICO" /fundraising EVER in the future carried on NEO-this recent developments make me even more sure of this.
1157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 04, 2017, 02:39:50 PM
Wasnt NEO linked to the PBOC somehow? Why they would ban this coin?

I guess there were some chinese coins unknown to the west, which were ripping off people in China.

But since their politicians are commies, they got to ban all of them, instead of just the ones which were causing trouble.

If you are selling your alts, know this: someone is buying them. And if someone is buying them, then they will go up again.




..?

China is NOT banning NEO

Not sure where you got that idea from?

NEO was a product of an ICO conducted and completed! (So not banned from existing as already a ongoing concern)

Whilst NEO will run ICOs that is NOT what It was set up for- it
is a smart contract platform that will be registering real world assets and it is a blockchain-
it is not an ICO platform - though crowdfunding is one of the types
of smart contract that will be possible on the platform. They STILL will be running ICOs (starting with redpulse this weekend) the only catch being they will have to block ip from the Chinese mainland.  (edit-until the new regs are in place)

 They have worked to design their platform to be compliant - Onchain has worked with the government in creating
LawChain/ IdentityChain - this is their link.

Fosun are involved with Onchain - smart money has not got this wrong.

When the dust settles - there will be some winners in the ICO space and
I fully expect NEO to be top of the pile! (In china)  and again ICOs are only one element in what NEO is.
1158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 04, 2017, 01:11:24 PM
Yawwwwn
1159  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 04, 2017, 10:39:14 AM
Yawn.

Bored.

 

1160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 04, 2017, 09:39:06 AM
Meh- this is the same as the many Bitcoin bans- they are going
to investigate 60 ICO platforms - regulate and then ICOs will be back on the table..

China just wants to get their hands around the space..

ICOs will be back - china has already started down the path..
The identity/Law chains and working with OnChain and more
Recently NEO- there has been too much done already for a 180.

They are just securing the ramps here imo.

What will emerge will be "sanctioned" ICOs done in a specific way


In other words China is about to go big ICOs imo

There is so much money being raised in China ATM

This is China bans Bitcoin all over again - and we all know how that turned out



What's in it for the Chinese government? 99% of ICOs will turn out to be worthless shite even if they're legitimised. Any country that shuts down its stock market won't be well disposed to let something as empty as ICOs flourish.

I think that the Chinese, +want to regulate out the 99% but are very serious about supporting the 1-5% that will bring (keep) wealth into the country

They know their country has a proclivity towards gambling....

China wants growth- and wants success - I do not believe they will close the ICO door forever- they will create a set of regulations to safeguard their own interests and "protect" citizens.

Smart contracts- intelligent ones,  of all types - are coming- we know it, they know it - there is no stopping it.. it is just a matter of when and how.

 IPO's ICO's will be carried out in the future by digital smart contracts... I cannot see any reason or way to stop this?  everything is going to become more and more digitised and interconnected....and the AI's will be taking apart in smart contract execution and arbitration - in many many fields...
I cannot see the financial industry being left out...and I cannot see ICO's being singled out for not being dragged into the 21st century along with everything else...

I cannot see China standing in the way of it either- in fact I wonder if they are more leaning towards positioning themselves at the front of it, and early.

I do not think they want to hinder themselves going forward, nor legitimate Chinese companies.

I think they are banning them now- and will in the future set out a framework for how these can legally operate -timescale unknown.

There are too many connected players and big money in China that have been involved in this space (smart contracts,blockchain) and a lot of work being done- I don't believe they are going to go through the whole process of working with the government setting up systems and framework to digitise assets (projects like LawChain & Identitychain) and then not at some point also not allow fundraising via smart contracts.


This is reactionary authoritative China at its best...

I expect them to comedown on this hard- set out regulations - and there will be some companies that just so happen to miraculously and with  such foresight ...almost psychic , just happen to have the exact platforms set up exactly the right way that they have massive advantage over the rest of the market... such companies already exist ... and they are already in position IMO- and this ruling comes as zero shock to them- nor their backers - their friends (and fellow investors) in government told them it was coming.

Everyone is ready....


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