Holy Batman!  They are making a bold claim there..... 0_o (Adam Back/Gregory Maxwell... I will admit it... I am curious AF) |
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Market cap of all crypto: $139B Market cap of Mastercard: $137B There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's crypto.  Priceless |
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BCH update
There have been 693 blocks mined since the hard fork.
(1235 blocks behind the original chain)
The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 13% of the original chain's difficulty.
The original chain has grown 1.63GB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.
It is currently 73% more profitable to mine on the original chain.
Current price = $300
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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/11/hbo-hack-game-of-thrones-ransom.htmlWhy exortionists are still using Bitcoin for this stuff instead of using Monero is beyond me. Maybe they don't know better? On other news.... The price is reacting to Segwit exactly as predicted. There will be dips on the road... but I think I need to readjust my price target for end of year. Btw... what happened to r0ach? I think a bar of gold dropped out of his purse and broke a toe Pesky Goldbugs  (ps- Liquidity? easier to acquire for the victim? surely they can take BTC and they can always move into Monero later to obscure their pesky bitcoiner tracks? or maybe they are BTC purists that consider every other coin a shitcoin?  who knows what goes on in the minds of these lazy fuckers) (pps #OnlyKidding #HakoRzRuLe #Don'tRobMe ) |
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$3500 !!! booooom
Damn! I missed it due to my complaining about topicality. Is there any resistance now before 10k? |
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5. Bring on 3600
Sorry no offense intended just I get passionate about most people ignoring history. I guess people in here are more awake (being a btc thread and all).
None taken ... and respects to you too sir! |
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I think Brexit was the wrong choice for many reasons, it's not about paradise vs hell though, it's just that many aspects of the EU, including letting people work anywhere and money flow everywhere, were in large part made because that was what the UK wanted, being the country that invented globalization. Really? How refusing migrant quotas forced by Bruxelles upon EU states can be a wrong choice? Because the EU is about sharing benefits and burdens. Not only the benefits. I have stated that I thought Brexit was the wrong choice for the British. However I didn't state that I was unhappy about it. I'm delighted that the British are leaving, now maybe the EU can go in the right direction, without a US trojan horse inside. I really can't understand all this talk about claiming back your sovereignty when you have no problem with US soldiers and spies all over your country. Meh cheap shot from me but....... A French man - preaching to U.K about occupation !!?? C'MON??  Wouldn't you guys be eating Schnitzel etc if it were not for the Yanks and the Brits? (I AM KIDDING!!! BUT A LOT OF BRITISH AND AMERICAN PEOPLE DIED FIGHTING THE GERMANS IN YOUR COUNTRY- THEY AINT ALL BAD) I think you will find that the brits and yanks did fuck all compared to the russians in defeating germany in WWII. Cant blame you though since from watching years of Hollywood propaganda it would seem like the Russians were the enemies of the "allies" 1st off - it was a joke
2nd My ex is Russian 3rd I do not need a history lesson- and the Yanks and the Brits did their part and yes Russia played their massive part - and we only just managed to pull it off. If you choose to ignore the sacrifices made in that giant shit show, from the Yanks and the Brits thats up to you...I respect them, and the Russians. 4th - Do I come across to you as someone who gets their knowledge from Hollywood propaganda? because.... well I don't 5th $3500 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm tryin' stay on topic here now ! |
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On the contrary, I think we had a good and civil discussion. It can't be bad.
Respects to you sir! You know what would have made that discussion even more "good and civil"? It's own thread in the proper section. lol good one. |
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I am curious to hear anyone opinions or knowledge regarding District0x
Please explore, inform, shill, and FUD away...
On a very quick perusal - looks like it could be an interesting project.
If any of you have any knowledge I would be interested to hear (started a separate thread ^^) On another note- Also anyone got a Bitcoin storecard/debit card or 10X or anything similar? I would like to acquire one and wondering which to go for |
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I am curious to hear anyone opinions or knowledge regarding District0x Please explore, inform, shill, and FUD away... On a very quick perusal - looks like it could be an interesting project. https://district0x.io/ |
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On the contrary, I think we had a good and civil discussion. It can't be bad.
Respects to you sir! |
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Rewriting history is a difficult thing. I don't think keeping control over France (or the other occupied countries) for the Germans would have worked out in the long run, but we can't ever know.
I'm grateful for the sacrifice made to free my country, there are not many people left to be grateful to, though, and most had no choice in the matter. Whether their chiefs really cared about liberating us is up for debate too, at least they had no problem bombing French cities to dust in the process.
The British of course had the immense benefit of being a group of islands, and that still helps them in the case of the refugee crisis. Which proves my point, only a handful of people make it illegally to the British Isles, all the other brown and Eastern people there you don't like, you allowed them to come, invited them even.
That still doesn't explain why there are US bases in the UK, nor why the British allow the NSA, CIA, and all the other three letters administrations to operate freely on their supposedly sovereign soil. I don't think even the Israelis that are basically a US client state are that open.
....alas it is true - the 5 eyes are everywhere |
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I think Brexit was the wrong choice for many reasons, it's not about paradise vs hell though, it's just that many aspects of the EU, including letting people work anywhere and money flow everywhere, were in large part made because that was what the UK wanted, being the country that invented globalization. Really? How refusing migrant quotas forced by Bruxelles upon EU states can be a wrong choice? Because the EU is about sharing benefits and burdens. Not only the benefits. I have stated that I thought Brexit was the wrong choice for the British. However I didn't state that I was unhappy about it. I'm delighted that the British are leaving, now maybe the EU can go in the right direction, without a US trojan horse inside. I really can't understand all this talk about claiming back your sovereignty when you have no problem with US soldiers and spies all over your country. Meh cheap shot from me but....... A French man - preaching to U.K about occupation !!?? C'MON?? Wouldn't you guys be eating Schnitzel etc if it were not for the Yanks and the Brits? (I AM KIDDING!!! BUT A LOT OF BRITISH AND AMERICAN PEOPLE DIED FIGHTING THE GERMANS IN YOUR COUNTRY- THEY AINT ALL BAD) |
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on a decision that they were not qualified to make in the first place,
There you go with the elitist thinking again. I am trying to be patient, but this is really offensive. Who, pray tell, IS qualified to make such decisions in a democracy? People who have a clue about the actual consequences, I'd say. I can't speak for K~Ehleyr, but I have been following the Brexit matter closely since the debate started. The urban people, the educated, the young, overwhelmingly voted "Remain". So did some geographical/economical minorities (notably Scotland). The bulk of "Leave" voters were working class folk, afraid because they're losing their jobs to Polish plumbers. They have been lied to, their fears exploited cynically. Now these people see that the foreign plumber isn't going away anyway, but the City workers who used to be their customers at lunchtime or when their expensive shirts needed washing are going away if the government isn't able to negotiate merciful terms. And things look like the they won't be able to. This is not about centralization/decentralization IMO. It's about an open market or a closed market. It's much harder to produce (or keep) wealth in the latter. Some of the uneducated are beginning to realize what happened above their heads, and they aren't going to be happy about that. Nonsense. Sorry but utter utter shyte No need to be sorry for disagreeing. Some more elaborated arguing wouldn't hurt, though. sure.. first thing is sorry to have been so brash.. Your comment "I have been following the Brexit matter closely since the debate started. The urban people, the educated, the young, overwhelmingly voted "Remain"." Well-there in lays part of the issue. You have been following this Brexit since it first started... as have many of the people of the UK- and that is problem number one for most people - the attention to the issue is 20 years at least too late!!! (at least) and for many people inc the "young" "the "urban" its just something they have cottened onto in the past few years...do you see the issue there? Some have been following the formation of the trade bloc since before Heseltine and Thatcher.... their opinions if anything bare experience of the issue, and first hand experience of the consequences unwinding its way into British and European society. The kitch media , the Guardian may hop up and down about it now- and claim its only ignorant, racist, old, country folk who voted "leave" I know this to be less than true... its bad journalism - and its the same bad journalism that has paid lip service to the benefits of the EU- and also assured us all that the "Remain" vote would win. out of touch arrogant journalism imo. Certainly out of touch- as you may gather by the fact they did,and continue to take the complete wrong temperature of the room. For me I find the demographic is quite different- I know many many people, young, urban, educated that voted remain- but does it matter that a large number, never used their education in their career or to benefit society in any way, and most are office workers, estate agents, insurance brokers, hair dressers, account executives and the like... most live quite sedentary lives, living from inherited money - and living rent seeking lifestyle - all very lovely- all mainly quite uninformed and financially illiterate- and by and large could not give a damn about the EU 2-3 years ago- and short of how it effects them- still do not in any meaningful way. Most certainly had no opinion of the EU forming in the first place decades ago... and really live in bubbles. The media led them by the nose- just as much as the opposite end of the group. On the other hand of the people I know that publically admitted to voting "Leave" are mostly farmers, engineers, doctors, nurses, armed forces,designers ,tree surgeons, builders, people in the financial industry SME owners.... people with a more critical bent- and sure some are older- and more experienced, and actually have seen the rise and fall of the EU and remember life before it - not all- taking age out of it - in my experience the people I have met or known have rarely been racist, are quite well informed and financially literate, generally are self employed - well travelled, hard working intelligent people with analytical minds. Now- I know this is anecdotal - and me and the group of people I know and have met/are a small sample group- on the other hand - I have been talking to people about Europe and the EU for about 20 years now - and not just in the UK - my family are from and live all over Europe- and I spend a lot of time in many parts of Europe talking to many Europeans, and have seen and heard the consequences in many countries for BETTER and for WORSE- and that has been my experience to be frank- the young urban "educated" group of people you refer to are in my experience the EXACT group of people that only gave a damn about Europe when the Brexit media machine started... then they all had expert opinions. However I also do know a lot of young, urban educated (and self educated) people who DID vote to LEAVE- because - in their opinion that is what they think is right... By the way- all my family are from "Europe" from two countries that are as different to each other in many ways as you can get... nothing against Europe or Europeans - the exact opposite. I just do not believe in the trade bloc- I think it is ill conceived,poorly structured,over bureaucratic,low on accomplishments, and shockingly financially inept and irresponsible and as a financial experiment, that I have watched unwind over the past 20 years - I think it is a failure. Financially speaking the union is already dead in all but name- there is NO way the union can survive without MASSIVE debt restructuring and right offs and essentially making a joke of the "governance" that has poured from it the past decade. Not 1 single person that I know that voted "Remain" could tell me the current monthly QE figure.... and that says it ALL ...both the fact none knew the figure... but even more importantly.. the actual figure itself... and please remember the the EU is a financial trade bloc- not a club. The young urban educated guys are very very fond of this financial bloc ..... for some reason... never known anything like it to be honest. I love the Pyrenees in the summer, I love my French friends, my Spanish father, I love the lakes of Northern Italy, the Beer in Brugge,the Smoke and the people in Holland, the beauty of the Romanian forests, the design and lifestyle of the Scandinavian countries... the laid back green of Ireland, where the rest of my family is from... I mean I could go on and on and on... Europe and the diverse peoples and societies and customs and the food and myriad of landscapes I LOVE IT! BUT what I don't give a hoot about- a failed, and long time failing European trade bloc, that is bankrupt, and making decisions that frankly do not help the people of EUROPE... Also please ask a German or a Norwegian, or any of the fiscally restrained , tax paying countries if they are happy being in a trade block with their southern neighbours... One final note on EU and on ignorance and our current times. One thing that is missing from the "young urban and educated" demographic AND the media writ large, in a very clear and demonstrable way.... something far far more worrying in my opinion... and that is there was a VOTE ! an actual vote- and people voted, in a democracy and to the media and the "young urban educated" that voted to "Remain" that does not seem to mean fuck all.. apparently its uniformed, and uneducated and ignorant and people duped that voted LEAVE... do you not see what is wrong with this picture? The "young educated and urban" should KNOW the value of free and fair elections and referendums - and whats more they should know enough to respect the outcome.. even if the media and the deep-state DON'T respect the outcomes of these processes. Because one day - it will be your wining vote that the deep state and media will seek to over turn and ignore and brand YOU the ignorant . Then where will we be? ps - K~Ehleyr - What was that QE fiigure again? pps- Back on topic for me - I don't know why I waded into this TBH - I regret it already- frankly not the time nor the energy nor the inclination to go on about Europe any further. |
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for me it's not personal with you or the other guy.
my point is the Brexit/remain debate is a total sideshow constructed by current political elites, completely irrelevant to the future of the British Isles, which absolutely belongs not to them but to us here present.
I certainly can't disagree that it's a politically constructed sideshow. The problem is that it's the ordinary people that will pay the price, through loss of business, loss of jobs, loss of rights, a collapsed economy and high inflation... If it unemployes some bureaucratic parasites in Brussels that's good enough for me.
The EU is a failed institution, they would be well advised to start winding it down before the guillotines come out.
The EU has serious problems, I never said it was perfect! It won't be the bureaucrats in Brussels losing their jobs because of Brexit though, it will be ordinary hard-working people losing their jobs when the businesses they work for relocate to other countries in order to avoid trading tariffs and restrictions. "The British voters will have the opportunity to change the government at the next general election, yes, but they've already shown that their judgement is flawed"
The voters have a different opinion then me, so democracy must be bad". Where have I heard that before?
I never said that. Just because I say that voters made a bad choice, strongly influenced by lies, on a decision that they were not qualified to make in the first place, does not mean that I wouldn't defend their right to make that choice. What do you think will happen - who will lose their jobs when the house of cards that is the EU collapses? Which it will. Remind me again the current monthly QE figure please ? |
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on a decision that they were not qualified to make in the first place,
There you go with the elitist thinking again. I am trying to be patient, but this is really offensive. Who, pray tell, IS qualified to make such decisions in a democracy? People who have a clue about the actual consequences, I'd say. I can't speak for K~Ehleyr, but I have been following the Brexit matter closely since the debate started. The urban people, the educated, the young, overwhelmingly voted "Remain". So did some geographical/economical minorities (notably Scotland). The bulk of "Leave" voters were working class folk, afraid because they're losing their jobs to Polish plumbers. They have been lied to, their fears exploited cynically. Now these people see that the foreign plumber isn't going away anyway, but the City workers who used to be their customers at lunchtime or when their expensive shirts needed washing are going away if the government isn't able to negotiate merciful terms. And things look like the they won't be able to. This is not about centralization/decentralization IMO. It's about an open market or a closed market. It's much harder to produce (or keep) wealth in the latter. Some of the uneducated are beginning to realize what happened above their heads, and they aren't going to be happy about that. Nonsense. Sorry but utter utter shyte |
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so where can you buy the things? I don't see them for sale
ATM only Bittrex for us westerners Bittrex may not make all of the Services available in all markets and jurisdictions, and may restrict or prohibit use of all or a portion of the Services from certain states, territories, or jurisdictions (“Restricted Locations”). At this time, Restricted Locations include, but are not limited to, several U.S. states: AK, AR, CA, CT, FL, HI, ID, IA, KS, KT, LA, MD, MI, MS, NC, ND, NE, NH, NV, OH, OK, PA, SD, TX, VT, VA, WA, WY, and PR. so basically not for sale Are you in one of those states? Ouch. Maybe a fellow pesky bitcoiner can help you out ! |
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so where can you buy the things? I don't see them for sale
ATM only Bittrex for us westerners Incidentally- a good friend of mine wants to get in - at $15 I advised wait for a pullback- we are at $27 now and I still saying the same thing ...Its got to pullback right? I have buy orders in at $7 ish and now I am wondering if they will get filled. I have a target figure in mind of the amount to want to acquire.. dollar costing averaging upwards - ouch |
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Seriously guys, WTF is a NEO ?
According to the Shitcoin Gazette: NEO has recently gained some notoriety due to its collaboration with Chinese certificate authorities to map real-world assets using its smart contract technology. NEO has also signed partnership agreements with several startup companies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Formerly known as AntShares. I don't understand why they changed their name. And the new logo is ugly. But otherwise the tech seems interesting. A bit like the Chinese version of ETH whereas XEM is the Japanese version of ETH. I.E. All of them have the ability to do "smart contracts" but at least XEM has an API (application platform interface) that is able to use (or compatible with) many other coding languages unlike Etherium, which uses only a single programming language in their API. I'm not sure about NEO but anyways if you hodl NEO in your wallet, you get GAS, which is equivalent to ETH on the Ethereum blockchain. Da Hongfei seems solid - no comparisons being offered (and after all we do invest in people) NEO is quantum resistant and has a scaling solution (sharding) waiting to go. Microsoft involvement, with listing real world assets- several other interesting collaborations - inlcuding with OnChain which is a private Blockchain/company which is owned by Da Hongfei & partners, and is VERY VERY VERY well connected. Also as well as the Neo Chain and On Chain there is the Law Chain/Identity Chain, which the gubermint are on board with- also BFT Blockchain is compliant with the good folks in the guberment. They are building fiat on and off ramps- one will be able to store fiat on chain, and take fees and charges in fiat. The Chinese love to back their own. Also of interest is the GAS you get paid- you get paid for bookkeeping activities per a fixed reward - however there are also going to be fees chargable for creating and executing smart contracts. (effectively you become a share holder of Neo Chain and share in all ongoing profits generated by activites on the chain , and not just the fixed "block rewards" ) It looks like they will enter some interesting markets, ICO's Invoice factoring for not just SME's but also some bigger players (I can see OnChain linking them with Alibaba further in the future) I have been singing its praises since around $1 - I am locked and loaded- and will continue to acquire more. These guys impressed me - take it as a shill or take it as information- up to you. This coin is going to number 2 IMO - been saying so for months. (Ps this is a bit of a corp /guberment friendly coin- I make no moral statements regarding this- I just think it has success written all over it in giant red marker pen... from an investment/trading point of view) How can it be quantum resistant before quantum is really a proper thing. Who knows what it will or wont do? or will and wont do for that matter. I hear you, but I think it is touting to be more quantum RESISTANT than QUANTUM PROOF- Apparently they are using/rolling out lattice-based cryptography which is supposed to be "quantum resistant" based on any public knowledge on quantum computing capabilities atm- which is actually coming on slowly https://www.research.ibm.com/ibm-q/ apparently Lattice based cryptography offers more resistance than standard RSA to quantum computing ......... I do believe it could become a problem quicker than some realise- NEO are not the only people working on this Ethereum are for example (and many others) are working on this same issue https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/28 I don't think its just a gimmick - I think Da Hongfei and his team are just trying to think ahead of the curve here (pardon the pun) |
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