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1301  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 10, 2017, 11:33:56 AM
Seriously guys, WTF is a NEO ?

According to the Shitcoin Gazette:

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NEO has recently gained some notoriety due to its collaboration with Chinese certificate authorities to map real-world assets using its smart contract technology. NEO has also signed partnership agreements with several startup companies.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Formerly known as AntShares. I don't understand why they changed their name. And the new logo is ugly.
But otherwise the tech seems interesting. A bit like the Chinese version of ETH whereas XEM is the Japanese version of ETH. I.E. All of them have the ability to do "smart contracts" but at least XEM has an API (application platform interface) that is able to use (or compatible with) many other coding languages unlike Etherium, which uses only a single programming language in their API. I'm not sure about NEO but anyways if you hodl NEO in your wallet, you get GAS, which is equivalent to ETH on the Ethereum blockchain.


Da Hongfei seems solid  - no comparisons being offered (and after all we  do invest in people)

NEO is quantum resistant and has a scaling solution (sharding) waiting to go.

Microsoft involvement, with listing real world assets- several other interesting collaborations -  inlcuding with OnChain which is a private Blockchain/company which is owned by Da Hongfei &  partners, and is VERY VERY VERY well connected.  Also  as well as the Neo  Chain and On Chain there is the Law Chain/Identity Chain, which  the gubermint are on board with- also BFT Blockchain  is compliant with the good folks in the guberment.

They are building fiat on and off ramps- one  will be  able to store fiat  on chain, and take fees and charges in fiat.

The Chinese love to  back their own.

Also of interest is  the GAS you get paid- you get paid for bookkeeping activities per a fixed reward - however there are also going to be fees chargable
for creating and executing smart contracts. (effectively you become a share holder of Neo Chain and share in all ongoing  profits generated by activites on the chain , and not just the fixed  "block rewards" )

It looks like they will enter some interesting markets, ICO's Invoice factoring for not  just SME's  but also some bigger players (I can see OnChain linking them with Alibaba further in the future)

I have been singing its praises since around $1 - I am locked  and loaded- and will  continue to acquire more.

These guys impressed me - take it as a shill or take it as information- up to you.

This coin is going to number 2 IMO - been saying so for months.


(Ps this is a bit of a corp /guberment friendly coin- I make no moral statements regarding this- I just think it has success written all over it in giant red marker pen... from an investment/trading point of view)
1302  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 10, 2017, 10:26:08 AM
So I'm heading off to thailand fully paid for by the free coins tomorrow, and I need a new suitcase. I'm thinking pink for easy visibility, but maybe an ugly yellow would work too. Thoughts?

I did a week in Thailand a few months ago. Great time, beautiful women. Cheap prices. You start to decide whether you want a nicer hotel for $45 or just go with a regular one for $25. Went to one of the islands and spent $200/night on a 5 star luxury hotel with a stairway to the pool right off of my patio on the ocean (sea?).

I plan on retiring in January and will go live there. Got a beautiful gf out of the deal as well.


Which island, which hotel?

The Chill Resort, Koh Chang.
http://www.thechillresort.com/home/

I highly recommend it.

You can book it on expedia with bitcoins Wink

Nice choice man!!

I ran with the motorbike in the Koh Chang hills, the view, the sun, the sea... definitely one of the happiest and carefree moment in my life.

My plan is to move in Koh Chang when I'll be ready

Ejoy man! Wink Wink Wink

p.s.
I lived over 2 years in Thailand, I have a Thai wife (best choice of my life) and I spent a lot of time in Koh Chang, so if you want any information about my experience be free to contact me by PM


I have got a lot of time for Thailand
1303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 10, 2017, 10:24:52 AM
Disclosure: I am googling serious security options. And getting a little paranoid.

Use startpage.com instead.

I just clicked your malicious link and now all of my Bitcoins are gone !!!  WTF??!!

Pesky Bitcoiners!!   Grin
1304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 10, 2017, 10:03:46 AM
It seems that the Saturday pump group is desperately trying to reach 4k price before dumping again to 2k and below. They spent all their 10% profit to recover the price fall from yesterday, so they are hoping the naiive traders to make them a gift for another 10% increase. Anyway, the incoming contentious HF on 1 Nov is not the same as BCH split. Wu just admitted he wants an altcoin and the community was ok with that. This time each party will claim that 2x and core are the legacy bitcoin. But there is place for only one king of the cryptocurency! If we have 2 kings we can't expect the upward price trend to continue anymore. More likely, the 2 new bitcoins will share the fate of BCH trading from 100$ to 1000$ then back to 300$ each.

Each party can claim.... but only one will have the majority hash power -I think the value will follow the chain with the most- which will be the Segwitx2 chain from the looks of things at the moment......

 ....game of chicken.

(most users it seems ,prefer to err on the side of caution - and simply opt to keep both /all three coins anyways- so for users and hodlrs its not much of an issue... for the pesky bitcoiners trying to one up their comrades in this zero sum game with aggressive trading to accumulate  more coins... it is more of a problem... I expect the exchanges to be less accommodating this time...though we shall see) ...oh and of course it is a problem for Core


ps- I am not a fan of this fork trend-  fork away- its grand and all that- but get yer own feckin logo and name... but its OUR name- no its OURS!! Grrrrr which part of "$50 Billion dollars" and "the world is watching" does not compute for these clowns?

pps- I don't really think that, I am just grouchy AF today..
1305  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2017, 12:50:42 PM
BCH Update

There have been 305 blocks mined since the hard fork.

(946 blocks behind the original chain)


The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 13% of the original chain's difficulty.


The original chain has grown 1,013.97MB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.


It is currently 29% more profitable to mine on the original chain.

Current price= treefiddy $320 ish
1306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2017, 12:15:18 PM
CNBC on Bitcoin and Gold vs Fiat

https://youtu.be/nY__czzeAEA

1307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 06:17:25 PM
BCH update

There have been 243 blocks mined since the hard fork.

(903 blocks behind the original chain)


The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 13% of the original chain's difficulty.


The original chain has grown 919.19MB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.


It is currently 30% more profitable to mine on the original chain.

Current price= $370
1308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 12:30:01 PM
If Litecoin Segwit activation process is of any reference to Bitcoin, we should expect a sharp rise when lock-in is certain and during the next days until activation. Then a mild dip and afterwards a slow grow upwards.... But that was Litecoin.


The thing with the Litecoin Segwit rally (s) is that they were interrupted by goings on with BTC  -  when BTC shit the bed-  it dragged LTC and the rest of the market downwards in its wake. Some of the effects of the SegWit rally were seen simply in LTC holding its price, bouncing harder or not falling as much as the rest of the market which was trending red. There was some normal profit taking too- and a heavy retrace ,as there quite often is - but it seemed to me to be triggered  by BTC selloffs -  and sure after Segwit some "sold the news"

I am not disagreeing with you just saying there was some noise caused by BTC throwing a wobbly.

I guess Segwit - and BCH *out of the way -  paves the way forward -  removes some uncertainty - hence the market reaction.

x2 fandango next

(*or is  it?)
1309  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2017, 10:22:33 AM
So, 3.5k is within smelling distance. I have a feeling that we could see a pull back to 3-3.2 after Segwit is activated.

I hope I'm wrong though.  Grin

No one answered my question a few pages back either. Has anyone actually done anything with the fact that Segwit is activated on Litecoin? How long should we expect to wait for people to use the tech on the Bitcoin blockchain?

Now that Segwit has been activated (LTC) - I do not think that many users or services currently clients or wallets (dont send by default atm)  have implemented it in any meaningful way - though some hardware wallets can now send  segwit transactions - I think they are making some changes and rolling out the tech and talking with services and exchanges etc about the benefits of SegWit transactions-whilst also working on the core and clients to pave the way for further Segwit roll out- I see this is the latest from core on Github  BIP173 - Bech32 addresses: more secure address format designed for segregated witness
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0173.mediawiki


I think there are several projects going on in the background, that are not LTC specific which plan to build layers on-top of LTC and BTC
including but not only using the Lightning Network   (the first LN transaction was sent on the LTC network- a few hours after segwit activated on LTC  Blockstream guys sent 1.3 cents from Zurich to San Fran) they are also working on cross chain atomic swaps between LTC and vertcoin.
 Coblee has said he wants to push on with the Lightning Network implementation  ditto with cross chain- I think SegWit cleared the way forward for these to move forward- both on LTC and now BTC.

LN will be a thing though....so its a matter of when...  the LTC 2017 roadmap should come along quite well I think... so maybe within 6 months-ish even we have LN  and other layers and solutions being revealed and rolled out.


1310  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2017, 10:57:19 PM
This is what a major American financial news station showed not even an hour ago.
->https://twitter.com/CNBCFastMoney/status/894680240890548225
Unleash the fury!

.... slightly bullish  Shocked

That guy would put some of the bulls here to  shame  Cool

1311  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2017, 10:46:53 PM
BCH Update

There have been 223 blocks mined since the hard fork.

(784 blocks behind the original chain)


The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 17% of the original chain's difficulty.


The original chain has grown 791.72MB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.


It is currently 55% more profitable to mine on the original chain.

Source:https://cash.coin.dance/blocks


Current price = $335 ish


Meanwhile...

BCH Update

There have been 175 blocks mined since the hard fork.

(740 blocks behind the original chain)


The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 17% of the original chain's difficulty.


The original chain has grown 711.06MB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.


It is currently 114% more profitable to mine on the original chain.


Current price: $250 ish



BCH Update

There have been 100 blocks mined since the hard fork.

(679 blocks behind the original chain)


The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 17% of the original chain's difficulty.


The original chain has grown 599.51MB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.


It is currently 154% more profitable to mine on the original chain.

Source:https://cash.coin.dance/blocks


Current Finex Price = $194 ish

...meanwhile

BCH Update

There have been 84 blocks mined since the hard fork.
(641 blocks behind the original chain)

The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 26% of the original chain's difficulty.

The original chain has grown 562.20MB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

It is currently 311% more profitable to mine on the original chain.

Source:https://cash.coin.dance/blocks

Current price = $205
1312  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2017, 06:00:07 PM
.....I gotta admit I am quite amused by the fact we have slipped down this rabbit hole during a new ATH

Says a lot.
1313  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2017, 05:31:14 PM
I refer you to my earlier post(s)

(i.e the last two) 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=191697;sa=showPosts
1314  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2017, 04:26:12 PM
   

 Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
1315  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2017, 02:18:20 PM


I am pretty sure we are not meant to be observing this wall  ?

Have the feckin' anti defamation league breathing down Theymos's neck next... is that the idea?

I don't know guys

Anyway one of my favourite Jews Louis C.K  https://youtu.be/Iod2tfiL_ZM


1316  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2017, 11:57:45 AM


Thanks, empowering.  This information seems like it could be a very good thread - but maybe it is equally fine to just have it in this thread?  

No probs JJG ....and it is in this thread...so I guess it is fine.

1317  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2017, 10:07:24 AM
Meanwhile...

BCH Update

There have been 175 blocks mined since the hard fork.

(740 blocks behind the original chain)


The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 17% of the original chain's difficulty.


The original chain has grown 711.06MB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.


It is currently 114% more profitable to mine on the original chain.


Current price: $250 ish



BCH Update

There have been 100 blocks mined since the hard fork.

(679 blocks behind the original chain)


The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 17% of the original chain's difficulty.


The original chain has grown 599.51MB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.


It is currently 154% more profitable to mine on the original chain.

Source:https://cash.coin.dance/blocks



Current Finex Price = $194 ish




...meanwhile


BCH Update

There have been 84 blocks mined since the hard fork.
(641 blocks behind the original chain)

The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 26% of the original chain's difficulty.

The original chain has grown 562.20MB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

It is currently 311% more profitable to mine on the original chain.

Source:https://cash.coin.dance/blocks

Current price = $205
1318  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2017, 09:22:32 AM
Ah...I take your point......then again I expected it to be $12 today..which is why I'm still a 'wage slave' .. Sad

I want to cash out but the risk of whatever wallet software somehow getting my private keys is holding me back.

Right now I know my private keys are safe. I do not want to compromise that...even though the reward for me is a lot.

Simply make a copy of your private keys & seed  - from before the fork, move your BTC coins to a new unused wallet an now you have those coins safe- with new private key. Then use the original saved private key to access the BCH via a separate BCH wallet that supports importing private keys - and then move those to a exchange. Be extra paranoid and move the BTC again.

Job done
1319  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 06, 2017, 06:55:46 PM
Wait till these guys start buying with at least 5 percent of their fortunes
https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#version:static

It will be impossible for them to acquire without increasing the price by tens of thousands of $

It's just the beginning

I'll go ahead and be contrarian here. Why would these people want to collapse the U.S. Dollar if that is where they house the majority of their wealth. If they wanted to avoid the issue of the price increasing as they acquire they could just... not acquire. And look elsewhere for a cryptocurrency system, hell, even one they themselves create.

Something tells me several of those people already own a few bitcoin anyway.


the US dollar is doing quite a good job of collapsing itself
1320  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 06, 2017, 05:54:58 PM
BCH Price under $200 at the moment.... and most BCH coins have not seen an exchange yet
snip
snip

snip

Can anyone tell me  how many BCH coins have moved in past 7 days

(suppose  bitcoin days destroyed would spike though, as people would be moving coins from wallets as they are exposing private keys to claim their BCH)

(Thanks  Smiley)

(snip)
So a little over 1.7 million it appears (based on my ever-so-in-depth research)
*results may vary


So accounting for trading velocity and also the sent/active users- it seems likely that all of the coins have NOT hit the market... even if you account for only say 5 million potential coins - we are still way short ....especially considering trading - some traders bought and sold more than once- and there were people buying coins with fiat and BTC that did not receive coins via the fork...that  I am wondering if we will see a further dump when segwit locks - though I do acknowledge that many users just cannot be bothered to do anything with their BCH coins at this point.  


(side thought - I also wonder if it will give some hedge funds with BTC exposure a nice year end boost- and if they will dump out BCH at the next opportune moment)

(also am I right in thinking if there was a mass exodus and large numbers of Bitcoin holders claiming their BCH in their new Bitcoin Cash wallets , wouldn't we would see a spike in Bitcoin days destroyed? as coins that have not been moved for a while i.e the corresponding BTC are moved into new wallets whilst claiming the BCH (to protect the BTC  private keys) )
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