Solution? Get rid of social services.
People dont want to take personal responsibility anylonger. They have gradually and systematically been weened off taking any responsibility for themselves. They are now addicted to money they have yet to earn (credit debt) and government subsidies in order to survive. This need to change, but let me tell you it will be bad if it happens. Stockpile lots of guns, ammunition, tradable tangible goods, food, and seeds. Then be prepared to defend it all with your life if they ever take those social programs away, because the vast majority of the population is NOT prepared to fend for themselves, either financially, mentally, or physically. |
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Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming?
this way ... |
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The problem is not that NotHaus created a new currency.
The problem was he created a competing currency, marketed it as such, and went into great detail how to surrupticiously mix them into the nations money supply unbeknownst to the average citizen (one tactic which he specifically described ways to do this by giving them as change from vendors).
It is not WHAT he did, but HOW he did it that was illegal.
Go read the states case (online pdf) - they outline it very well, and as much as I hate to admit it, the state was right according to the letter of the law.
He just went about it the wrong way.
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"The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America", By Charlotte Iserbyt - http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/DDDoA.sml.pdf"Tragedy and Hope", By Caroll Quigley "The Empire of the City", By E.C. Knuth "The New World Order", By H.G. Wells "The Grand Chessboard", By Zbignew Brzezinski "Born in Blood", By John J. Robinson "Fearful Master", By G. Edward Griffin "The Creature from Jeckyl Island", by bG.Edward Griffin "Crossing the Rubicon", by Michael C. Ruppert "The Unseen Hand", by A. Ralf Epperson "Behold a Pale Horse", by Milton William Cooper "Morals and Dogma", by Albert Pike "Lines of Credit, Ropes of Bondage", by Robert Henry Goldsborough "History of the First Council of Nice(a)", by Dean Dudley "The Brotherhood and the Manipulation of Society", by Ivan Fraser and Mark Beeston "None Dare Call It Conspiracy", by Gary Allen "Report From iron Mountain", The Dial Press "Liberty Defined", by Ron Paul "Rulers of Evil", by F. Tupper Saussy "Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars", unknown author(s) "The Real New World Order" by Anne-Marie Slaughter (Foreign Affairs Magazine September/October 1997 Issue) "The Brotherhood", by Stephen Knight "Sustainable Development or Sustainable Freedom" by http://freedom21.org/"The Celestine Prophecy", by James Redfield "The Hiram Key" by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas "The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail", by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln "The Leipzig Connection", by Paolo Lionni "The Financial New World Order", by Andrew G. Marshall "The Two Babylon's", by Alexander Hislop "The Law", by Frederic Bastiat "The 12th Planet", by Zecharia Sitchin |
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For example NBC is property of GE which has received a lot of money from the government lately. But I was talking about more than direct subsudies. If I enact regulation limiting the competition for you, how is that different from giving you money? Im giving you more business when the people might have choosen something different.
If I have not answer to the part of what is justly adquired property is because I had that same debate here some weeks ago and dont want to repeat it.
If I owned lots of different companies and the government decides to do business with one of them, I would not feel they deserve to regulate a different unrelated company of mine because of that fact. As to your other info, I would need to see some source data. |
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Problem is that "property" was not adquired justly therefore is not really their property.
Depends how you define "justly" I suppose. After all we are not talking about land taken hundreds or thousands of years ago by force, are we? As far as I know all media companies purchased, created, or grew their media empires from meager beginnings. If you have source data stating otherwise I would love to see it. When a televission receives subsudies (money taken by force from the citizens by the government and given to this corporations) and the corporations that own them are protected by government regulations, well...
IF a media source has received public funds (our tax money), then absolutely the public should have a say in how it is run. I do not know of any media empires who have been offered and accepted public funding (our tax money). If you have source data stating otherwise I would love to see it. |
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There is never going to be fair and equitable news coverage in all the media because its a matter of property rights. Most of you have very solid stances on property rights, correct ? You think your property is yours and you can do anything with it so long as you do not infringe on anyone elses rights, correct ? Using that logic, is it not media owners right to do whatever they want with their property ? Should they be able to say anything legal they want in their media ? Should they not be able to omit whatever they want ? Unless, of course, it concerns Ron Paul ? You have a couple of weapons for this fight: - your wallet. You boycott their advertisers and let the advertisers know why you are boycotting them. The unfortunate thing is that there would be little you could buy considering all the media forgot about Ron Paul.
- The power of the state forcing media to recognize Ron Paul, but doesnt that go against what you believe in ?
- Buy enough stock in media companies to control the board of directors and force the change.
It's a shitty deal but thats America. For the record, I think Ron Paul is the best candidate. [edited for grammer] |
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Since it's a separate entity now can we please, please, please move away from this horrible SMF application and get real forum software? I'd vote for vBulletin, but I'd be fine with moving to anything that has modern features and conveniences (which means no PHPBB either, but PHPBB would at least be a step up from this software).
SMF is great for a hobbiest site with little traffic and few posts, but it's horrible for a heavy traffic / high post count site. The lack of management features alone should necessitate the move, but there is so much more available in terms of features out there that sticking with this software is a diservice to everyone. Not only is it lacking in features, but it looks like something you'd put up on a free webhost for your family pictures. I'd volunteer to help with the conversion and setup of the new software if that is a problem/concern.
I will kick in a BTC or two for licensing costs if need be and I'm sure others will as well.
nothing wrong with the current forum software. |
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It is not a crash.
It's the free market correcting itself.
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if 1 BTC is worth one million dollars, then .00000001 btc would equal one penny.
think about it
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Ugh...video...probably one of the slowest ways to disseminate this kind of information yet. First Atlas wants me to buy a book by someone who sucks at math who he later says didn't make a good argument anyway (i.e. not well supported) . Now there's some big list of videos I have to watch....  Don't people know how to sum up their arguments in a reasonably cogent way anymore? Most of the information you need to learn, understand, then believe, has been intentionally hidden from you. Plus the depth and complexity of it requires a bit of attention. If you want the cliff notes, here they are ... The ruling elite of the world want a two class world system. Them and everyone else. Rulers and their subjects to serve them. Everything they do is towards that end. But wait... that might not be enough information for you to grasp the history. The who, what, when, where, why, and how. Ergo, the homework (reading, listening and watching those who HAVE done their homework)... But why have an attention span for the most important issues of our time when you can cursorily dismiss it all with a quick glance and wave of the hand. stay asleep. no sense in waking up now. |
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It is designed to push down all but the ruling elite class and push up all the lower classes to eventually have a two class world system.
The rulers and their subjects to serve them.
Thats [part of] what trade treaties and global orgs have been designed to do. Kill the middle and upper middle classes to bring them down to just above poverty levels by allowing global free unregulated and unrestricted trade so the businesses take their jobs overseas. This also raises the poverty stricken in those countries to just above poverty levels as well. The final product is everyone is forced at gunpoint to throw their stuff in a pile so everyone can share it. One World. One Dream. Everyone is reliant on The State because things are so bad, everything costs so much, that only the state can regulate and provide. They will make everything so expensive and tax you so much you wont even be able to afford to keep the land your ancestors paid for many times over. Its already happening. Why is it that everything keep going up and wages keep going down? Wheres has all that wealth evaportated to? Did it just disappear or was it siphoned off by interest from debt based currency to the ruling elite?
Also, why do you think those poverty-stricken 3rd world nations never get better with all the trillions of dollars pumped into them by the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank? Could it be because those financial institutions know the governments of those countries will take that money for their own purposes and not help their own people? And why is there never any stipulations on how all that money is to be used? Because maybe they dont care and simply need them addicted to the debt to have a support or vote for an agenda. Could it be that they know they will never be able to pay off the interest, let alone the principle, so they would be more apt to vote how the elites want then to in international affairs and at the UN?
Everything else is fluff to cloud the main issue.
Its about a few people stealing all the marbles, controlling everyone else.
yea ... I guess I am unhinged, as one poster put it in a previous thread.
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Every attempt throughout history to artificially level the playing field has failed. I should know, I come from a country that tried, and learned better. There is no magic legislation, manifesto or computer code that will give you what you think you deserve. A lot of people have been sold on a Bitcoin fairy tale that is just not going to come true.
The sad thing is that I think you are already defeated. It looks like you quit. They enemy has already won, in your mind. It isnt that you dont know of the issues that plague us ... I think you do ... its that you believe there is nothing we can do to stop them. Maybe I am wrong, but that part of your post made me think that. Not all playing-field-leveling attempts have failed. Just ask Andrew "Old Hichory" Jackson an quite a few others that made a difference in their time. Heroes like that need remembering and we should honor their memories with like-acts. Sure, the pendulum swings wildly at times, especially when most are so apathetic and disinterested in their own government, admittedly, against our favor lately, but that doenst mean we should give in to them and quit! It's up to us to fight for our freedom and liberty. I think participation in Botcoin helps in that fight. The BitCoin is about freedom and liberty. That's worth much more than giving up/in or the faster money. Longterm, with the dedication of all involved, bitcoin can only become better and more widely used. BitCoin is still in its intancy. It's a baby. In all, yes all open source projects, there is a development-phase meeting of minds. In there you have discussions of all kinds. BitCoin should eventually grow up and into a portal page for the Bitcoin. It's going to have to grow into that to ultimately be taken seriously, successful, and competative. With any grassroots effort there are setbacks. The dedicated believers will not be swayed by these. They willl learn from them, adapt, then advance. Keep advancing and never give up. For what BitCoin stands for in the grand scheme, plus to be fortunate enough to be on the ground floor of something with so much potential, not only for wealth, but the potential to do so much good in the world and affect it in a positive way, is what I am here. |
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Silk Road is not illegal. It is a marketplace. Market places are legal in every country. Plenty of legal stuff sold there every day.
The legality of the actions performed by site users may be another story depending on what country they live in, and is of concern only between the site users performing those action and their country's law enforcement.
As to those of you who think Silk Road is illegal, please show me the law that Silk Road is breaking, for the country Silk Road resides in and does business in.
You do realize that being an online facilitator of information and services, even markets that users sell illegal stuff through, is legal in some countries with sane service provider laws (or none at all), dont you ?
All I see is propaganda from establishment media and one senator and his lap dogs trying to gin up the public to add to his momentum in and upcoming election year, who is also a member of many banking and finance committees.
The silk road main site silkroadmarket.org is still online and under the control of the creator. If it was illegal, wouldnt that have been seized by now ?
I do not condone the illegal activities, but I agree with their right to run a marketplace without the pressure and danger of draconian and oppressive legislation of tyrannical governments.
It isnt illegal everywhere. and talking about it isnt illegal... even if it was illegal.
This board is walking down a dangerous path in its effort to add legitimacy to the bitcoin.
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I should write a bot for this....
yes that would be good |
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