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261  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 1.5x profit on: June 19, 2011, 11:21:09 PM
Entered Smiley
262  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Double Trouble (Instant/Automatic) w/ Partial Refunds! on: June 19, 2011, 11:20:00 PM
I've got a poll running.
If there are more than 10 people that vote, I'll do it.
http://www.polleverywhere.com/multiple_choice_polls/LTY2NTU1MDI0Nw/web


v-v-v-voted
263  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Double Trouble (Instant/Automatic) w/ Partial Refunds! on: June 19, 2011, 10:38:40 PM
Could oyu postpone reset because of downtime? Tongue
264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What mtgox number are you? (from DB leak) on: June 19, 2011, 10:30:59 PM
Y'know, those < 3100 are all easily crackable? Sad
265  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Double Trouble (Instant/Automatic) w/ Partial Refunds! on: June 19, 2011, 09:54:42 PM

* [tgsNothinG] idle 33:38:32, signon: Fri Jun 17 09:00:16

;?
266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What mtgox number are you? (from DB leak) on: June 19, 2011, 09:48:46 PM
well ... i know companies that don't give sequential numbers starting at 1 just to hide real numbers.
You mean companies that care about their customers and don't use amateur college-level PHP coding full of security holes?

Is that message implying that PHP is insecure, or am I misreading it?

PS: College-level? I was 13 and I released a perfectly secure Club Penguin Private Server, with multi-pass SHA256... Tongue

PPS: Don't do the above unless you like angry Disney lawyers
267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public Safety Announcement: On the subject of password security on: June 19, 2011, 09:45:05 PM
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If you can use multiple SHA512 hashes with each different unique salts form different sections of passwords... do it! If you can run that same thing 5 passes... do it!

We, at BitMarket.eu, had this from the very beginning. It's just a few lines of code people. And the benefit in security is huge.

I congratulate you on this! Smiley

I'mma release a small hashing class for secure passwords?
268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ALL mtgox password has been compromised, change asap, everywhere you used it on: June 19, 2011, 09:30:57 PM
Someone with a network should email everyone on the list and let them know.
+1

Issue is you'd probably en dup on spam blacklists. Sad
nowadays you can't even send a sixty thousand emails any more...
I've had too many issues to want to risk it, if you're being sarcastic.

I don't want my VPS blocked from emails, it needs to do ones for the services on it! Tongue
269  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ALL mtgox password has been compromised, change asap, everywhere you used it on: June 19, 2011, 09:00:15 PM
Someone with a network should email everyone on the list and let them know.

Issue is you'd probably en dup on spam blacklists. Sad
270  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public Safety Announcement: On the subject of password security on: June 19, 2011, 08:48:37 PM
Please, service providers...  Use the best possible solution available!

If you can use multiple SHA512 hashes with each different unique salts form different sections of passwords... do it! If you can run that same thing 5 passes... do it!

Don't just go with MD5 + usalt because "no-one will ever get the database". Always prepare for the worst case scenario. HAve graceful hash updates! If a better hashing method becomes available, make users reset their password! (Or have it be done automatically on log in using submitted password for 30 days, and after that time, require reset.)

Thanks for listening, do shout at me if you think this is stupid advice! Smiley

Of course users should:

1)  Have a 15+ character password.
2)  Have that password contain a minimum of 2 digits, 2 upper, 2 lower, 2 symbols, none repeating
3)  Have that password be unique to that site

Then you have very little to worry about, unless of course it is stored in clear text.

If only people didn't get annoyed when you try to enforce restrictions. Sad
271  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Public Safety Announcement: On the subject of password security on: June 19, 2011, 08:36:43 PM
Please, service providers...  Use the best possible solution available!

If you can use multiple SHA512 hashes with each different unique salts form different sections of passwords... do it! If you can run that same thing 5 passes... do it!

Don't just go with MD5 + usalt because "no-one will ever get the database". Always prepare for the worst case scenario. HAve graceful hash updates! If a better hashing method becomes available, make users reset their password! (Or have it be done automatically on log in using submitted password for 30 days, and after that time, require reset.)

Thanks for listening, do shout at me if you think this is stupid advice! Smiley
272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ALL mtgox password has been compromised, change asap, everywhere you used it on: June 19, 2011, 08:20:31 PM
It would appear that almost all the acounts are hashed with unique salts. The issue is, it is still easy to crack any of the weaker passwords with this, thanks to GPU MD5 crackers. Most bitcoin miners have soo much GPU power anyway...

Some passwords from earlier accounts appear to have NO SALT. That, or salt is derived from username. I don't know, sinc eI've not tried cracking any, and do not want to. Smiley
273  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ALL mtgox password has been compromised, change asap, everywhere you used it on: June 19, 2011, 07:37:24 PM
I wrote an MMOG backend with better password security than MtGox. Sad
(Two times SHA512 hashes needed to be cracked to find a user's password)
274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / BTC dropped to $0.01 in 1 Second - FLASH CRASH on: June 19, 2011, 06:44:07 PM
http://pastebin.com/J0HXBjWu

0.o

At least it's almost back up now Smiley
275  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Double Trouble (Instant/Automatic) w/ Partial Refunds! on: June 18, 2011, 05:36:38 PM
i think you should add a minimum bitcoin value like 0.5 or even 1. some people get in with 0.2btc and IMO that's too low.

great website!

0.1 is the minimum, what's wrong with that? :s
276  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Mt. Gox: If your coins were stolen, please write here on: June 18, 2011, 05:35:34 PM
As said davout, the password most be encrypt it using bcrypt, hash dont do a good job in password area.

http://codahale.com/how-to-safely-store-a-password/

If I knew a site was using encryption, I wouldn't use it.

Why use something reversible by the owners/anyone who gets access to the server... (Since if they have DB, they probably now have the key).
277  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Ufasoft Miner Thread - SSE2-optimized for Intel CPUs, version 0.10 (2011-May) on: June 18, 2011, 05:31:06 PM
Hey, Diablo-D3, this needs moved!
278  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Mt. Gox: If your coins were stolen, please write here on: June 18, 2011, 04:27:49 PM
Noitev, why use weaker security when better security is available? As mentioned before, if someone was to rent out power from Amazon ECC... :?
279  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Double Trouble (Instant/Automatic) w/ Partial Refunds! on: June 18, 2011, 04:21:57 PM
Do you think this sort of service will help to stabilise BTC?
280  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Mt. Gox: If your coins were stolen, please write here on: June 18, 2011, 03:36:31 PM
The fact that it uses MD5 is an issue.

It should definitely have been set up using SHA256/SHA512, and at least a per user salt(You haven't clarified as to whether it's the same for all, unless I've misread something). Or even double SHA512 two-unique-salts halved.

Sad
Where was MD5 mentioned?

It must be in the thread ocnfirming the existence of the CSRF vulnerability.
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