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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pre-order Bitcoin Magazine - Quality control, final revisions on proofs
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on: April 28, 2012, 05:04:54 PM
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And since when does bitcoin earn interest? That's a fiat concoction.
What made you think that? Anything can be repaid with interest. I could give you a hamburger loan with expectation you will repay me two hamburgers next Tuesday. In LightRider's defense, fiat money does encourage unwise financial models which in a true free market would be met with tough market regulation and fairly swift penalty (see CDOs, and CDSs). Since interest is morally debatable, it's easy to confuse it as being a non-sound practice.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pre-order Bitcoin Magazine - Quality control, final revisions on proofs
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on: April 28, 2012, 01:45:21 PM
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Let me be the first to say: Even if you do ship the mazine out today, you still fucked up and owe us all an apology and interest on all the money you held for all this time.
Hasn't he been telling you people to ask for refunds since forever ago? And since when does bitcoin earn interest? That's a fiat concoction. Actually, there is no problem with bitcoins (or sound money) earning interest. Personally, I don't like interest, especially anything over say 1%, but from a purely monetary perspective a non-inflationary currency can support interest and still induce a sound economy. People might ask: well, where does new money come from to pay the interest? The money to support the interest comes from within the existing system. This means as more interest bearing loans are created the economy does become deflationary as interest payments are made. In a true free market economy this slows the creation/availability of jobs. At this point new interest bearing loans should be lessened as well, since default risk rises. In other words, the job market should act as a cut off valve for such loans at the point which the economy can no longer sustain them, or banks risk default. The economic problem (and added moral hazard) with interest arises when banks don't accurately fear default, due to either creative financial mechanisms (like CDOs, or credit default swaps), or assurance of being rescued (by bailouts). A true free market allows lenders to go bankrupt when they run afoul of the actual tolerance of the free market.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin Weekly Youtube
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on: April 23, 2012, 07:42:08 PM
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Not bad.
I agree with FreeMoney. I think you might do well with slightly bumped up content. Maybe solicit people to email you with questions or comments which you can then comment on. Some sort of audience interaction might be good, kind of like a radio show. Then tighten up on your speed/delivery of topics. Keep it up!
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin - The Libertarian Introduction (a primer on Bitcoin)
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on: April 14, 2012, 03:59:07 AM
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This isn't only the best thing I've read on Bitcoin, it's the best thing I've read in a while, period. Informative, funny, cogent. Nice job! I actually got a chill from the last few sentences. I have to re-post a few of my favorite lines: The press conferences of someone like Bernanke would become less and less important, because the currency he printed would be used in narrower and narrower circles. Instead of fighting the government, Bitcoin enables individuals to sidestep it - to ignore it to a large degree. Taking down Bitcoin websites would be like cutting the heads of a Hydra - for each successful severance, publicity and the profit motive would compel more sites to spring up (case in point: how many file sharing sites exist, other than MegaUpload?). Bitcoin is a highly volatile commodity with an extremely uncertain future. Grandmothers should not be putting retirement money into Bitcoin (nor in US dollars, for that matter). There was also a line about a "decree by Bernanke" that I can't find, but for some reason made me laugh. You also nailed the why Bitcoin is valuable question. This should be spread far and wide.
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Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: mt gox loses another customer
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on: April 09, 2012, 08:29:24 PM
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Your account has been identified as particularly high risk by our assessment department.
Interesting. Can you share any details why they might have come to that conclusion? i.e., did you happen to connect using Tor, connected to an anoymous VPN provider, or from an access point available to the public? The 0.9 BTC trade probably looked suspicious (as in low risk test), like a bot.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pinterest & Bitcoin
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on: April 09, 2012, 04:03:22 AM
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That page shows ~ 20 people interested in bitcoin out of a site of 20 million users... not exactly what I'd call good percentage of their userbase. The site itself is interesting, though.
Hence, this thread. I find the eye candy (images) linked from each user's profile quite appealing. You have to admit, Bitcoin has had some great images associated with it. ~Bruno~ The eye candy images seem to be an inherent part of the site. It looks like an electronic version of a women's gossip/shopping club - which is actually pretty smart and naturally viral I think. But pleasing images are not key reason people go to that site. You can find plenty on Google Image search. People go there for what the images represent, and how they can affect/improve their own lives. So, I guess in a way bitcoin could be relevant, but the challenge would be how to convey that in an easily understandable "pin up"
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pinterest & Bitcoin
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on: April 09, 2012, 03:21:14 AM
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That page shows ~ 20 people interested in bitcoin out of a site of 20 million users... not exactly what I'd call good percentage of their userbase. The site itself is interesting, though.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Royal Canadian Mint just announced a new alternative to BitCoin
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on: April 04, 2012, 08:31:22 PM
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I wasn't talking about gold or silver, and he said he wasn't either. So that leaves only you talking about gold an silver. Consider the context of the Canadian Mint creating a digital currency and it becomes more clear that the backing in this case is Canadian dollars.
You were not talking about gold or silver? A hard backed Bitcoin alternative would be pretty easy to setup I think. All you need is to remove the coin generation, and start the initial block with a ridiculously large amount of money. So the Canadian Mint holds the private keys to 10 trillion BTC. These could possibly be timelocked as well, so they absolutely cannot go into circulation all at once. Then they have an open contract to sell anyone funds from their huge reserve of BTC in exchange for equivalent CAD which they will remove from circulation, and they also agree to buy back these BTC for the locked away (or freshly minted) CAD.
Bold emphasis mine. Hard backed means backed by gold or silver. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_money_(policy)Anyway I've got to log off now. Be back later.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Former Fed Economist Endorses Bitcoin Experiment
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on: April 04, 2012, 08:24:16 PM
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We have a missed communication on the word "enforced". I meant the government would honor and not change any convertibility into gold, not force people to use the currency.
That wouldn't need any force at all... thus no need for it to be "enforced". I think we agree if you replace "enforced" with "honored". People readily converting paper back into the right amount of gold, at anytime, wouldn't require anything enforced? Surely at least a few guards would need be present We're talking semantics, but I agree "honored" is a better word to use there.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Royal Canadian Mint just announced a new alternative to BitCoin
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on: April 04, 2012, 08:15:58 PM
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@guruvan - my reply there was actually to Dan The Man I concur with Guruvan. Remember that with a system built around bitcoin that doesn't use mining, you can only inject coins at the genesis block. Having a method for later injection from a trusted source is asking for hacking. The way the backing would work with newbitcoin wouldn't be that you set aside a backing for all the Newbitcoin you produce. That could leave you with a big pile of shit really fast. Instead, you would produce way more Newbitcoin than you will ever use or need. And you set aside the backing currency when those newbitcoins go into circulation. So you as the central authority, have an open contract to buy and sell newbitcoin at 1:1 for Canadian dollars. Since you start with a monopoly on all of the newbitcoin in existence it is an easy contract to keep. You keep talking about a "backing currency" but we were originally talking about hard backing. That means gold or silver.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Former Fed Economist Endorses Bitcoin Experiment
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on: April 04, 2012, 08:04:29 PM
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fine, then you essentially want a true 1:1 gold backed currency. how do you know if a bank issuing notes actually has all the gold as a reserve? how will you ensure that people will actually care? we've had all that before. history repeating. another problem is that today's gold supply is largely controlled by the elites already.
Good points. I agree totally. But that doesn't equal socialism. It does because the government enforces the gold standard and gives itself a monopoly over what is money which allows them to grow more easily and faster which eventually leads to socialism. You have a misunderstanding of what exactly a gold standard is. A gold standard is the opposite of the government saying what money is, because people already view gold as money. If a gold standard is enforced then the government is restrained from growing by inflating the money supply. If a gold standard is enforced, it is exactly the government saying what money is. If no standard is enforced, it is the opposite, and other options like silver and bitcoin can be used by subgroups within the population. We have a missed communication on the word "enforced". I meant the government would honor and not change any convertibility into gold, not force people to use the currency.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Former Fed Economist Endorses Bitcoin Experiment
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on: April 04, 2012, 07:57:39 PM
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If that were true you'd be asserting the U.S. has been a socialist country since 1913. I don't think so.
Funny you mention that year, when the income tax was levied. If I were to pick one year when the US shifted decisively from primarily capitalistic to primarily socialistic, it would be 1913. LOL I had a feeling someone would call me on that Yes, I'd agree, but we are still a long way from Cuba.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Former Fed Economist Endorses Bitcoin Experiment
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on: April 04, 2012, 07:50:31 PM
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fine, then you essentially want a true 1:1 gold backed currency. how do you know if a bank issuing notes actually has all the gold as a reserve? how will you ensure that people will actually care? we've had all that before. history repeating. another problem is that today's gold supply is largely controlled by the elites already.
Good points. I agree totally. But that doesn't equal socialism. It does because the government enforces the gold standard and gives itself a monopoly over what is money which allows them to grow more easily and faster which eventually leads to socialism. You have a misunderstanding of what exactly a gold standard is. A gold standard is the opposite of the government saying what money is, because people already view gold as money. If a gold standard is enforced then the government is restrained from growing by inflating the money supply.
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