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No professional bounty manager would ask to work for tokens, especially if the project has not even gone through pre ico and is in early terms.
I can recommend you a couple agencies, if you'd be able to offer USD/BTC but otherwise good luck.
I'd recommend leaving a telegram username/skype username so people can better reach you.
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Hi everyone, Week 9 has been paid - 918b81b3f7ebdc5d273b769214650ec950b3f5bc1975a5a6835249548c49bbbc
Unfortunately, I will be ending this campaign one week early. Sorry for the disappointment.
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Hi guys, campaign is going to last an extra 4 weeks, I'll see if I can get a budget increase.
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Hi guys, campaign is going to last an extra 4 weeks, I'll see if I can get a budget increase.
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I have, but I don't see why it's neccassary. All the money I made off Chroynos, plus an extra 3 eth is all gone.
Nothing in life is necessary. But if you want to fix something that's broke, you have to make an effort. You didn't earn this money the hard way, and just because you were scammed shouldn't prevent you from making right another scam. Remember what I said earlier, ill gotten gains never go far... Edit: You didn't deny this in our telegram convo yesterday, Sander Patt.
Pls post screenshots of your conv so we can also see that pinkman12345 = snakey (sander patt on telegram). Alright, I'll do it when I have time. He didn't deny or confirm it, but if you have talked to JH on tg before, it's quite obvious you are talking to the same person. I'm pissed at myself that I didn't get this earlier. I can easily do that. Can you/suchmoon/The Pharmacist PM me? I have information which proves that, but I'd like not to be public.
Send me PM. Had 3 ETH stuck in bread wallet, and there were issues with sending ETH at the time, so I gave my private key to JH, and asked him to help me fix it. A day later, JH says he can't fix it, and my 3 eth disappeared, into some shapeshift address. I asked JH about it, he said I couldn't access wallet, so I believed him, and since he was my friend, didn't bother any more. Let me see if I got this right. 3 ethereum stuck in wallet, you asked someone for help, they said they can't fix it and your ethereum magically disappeared? You have to be kidding me!  Can you post transaction ID?
Ok, I think I have to update this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3062663.0 with some newer information. Alright, please don't leak. Gonna shift through my email and try login in my bread wallet to find TXID and my angry email to bread support about getting hacked. |
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Why you keep saying i am pinkman which i ain't.
I ain't affiliated with any of your shit.
For the money you have scammed me still chasing you. Karma is not going to forget you. You know i am broke and still you are doing this.
For anyone who has doubt can kindly check my forum account as i can give you my password. I still have preserved all pms as i have not deleted any of my pm since beginning.
I can provide you my telegram info so that you can log in and see my chats with atriz, hampuz , jh and all.
I will provide my password only to a trusted member of community.
I can
You didn't deny this in our telegram convo yesterday, Sander Patt. I'm 100 percent not paying him that.
Have you considered paying the remainder to those who were scammed by snakey/pinkman? I have, but I don't see why it's neccassary. All the money I made off Chroynos, plus an extra 3 eth is all gone. |
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My bad. I bought it late 2016, didn't mean to mislead. I think I bought it decemberish, and then went to china for a month, came back and it was feburary, sort of forget for a couple months, and then started to look around and post.
Then you lied when you said account buying was ok at the time. By December 2016 DT members had started leaving neg trust for that shit. I can easily do that. Can you/suchmoon/The Pharmacist PM me? I have information which proves that, but I'd like not to be public.
Dude. Stop serial posting. And - no, I'm not going to engage in some behind-the-scenes validation because - in case you missed it - I don't trust you at all. I thought that it was fine at the time? My bad. I'm not going to post proof of that here since it's very personal. I'm sorry you've lost your trust in me. I had read that thread back when I was reading up on the controversies of the time. It doesn't really tell the whole story though. Whether this was an oversight on your part trying to move on from the Atriz brand at the time or not; but there is no accusation or proof on your part they did anything wrong. I don't even see any feedback from any of your accounts
I obviously don't know the details, but given the current situation (see below), it might have been a good idea to have aired the dirty laundry and had pinkman tagged. Assuming the reason you have for not paying them was NEG worthy. All I can find is the positive feedback you left pinkman that is still positive but has (delete) at the end of it. I may not have been clear in the previous post. Not trying to beat a dead horse but care to share any details that resulted in you being back stabbed. Provide as much or as little extra info as you wish, but my interest is whether or not repayment not continuing is justified. I would also suggest that the more questions you do answer, the less information you should leave out. It may help in avoiding situations like this where maybe you aren't managing a campaign or bounty for them, but you are involved with them, as a contracted employee to say the least.
I am not involved with jamal. He offered me a job, so I checked the telegram group, but I haven't made a decision yet.
I'd recommend you to not involve payment issues from Jamal, over to me. All of the ICO's you've listed have exit scammed, blocked me, or I've done the work for them (final sheet). I don't see how I'm lying/deceiving here.
You cannot say you are not involved with someone and that you think about making a decision on a job offer they made you WHEN: *snip* The work he gave for me managing spreadsheets was work I asked for, so I can make some income. I don't see how managing a couple spreadsheet means that I'm his right man.
Aight TLDR JH found me when he asked for a loan for like 0.02 back when I ran a lending buisness JH was a eth dev, so I asked him so questions, we became threads, he helped me look for ICOs, give advice eg. JH then started helping me handle bounty distributions, with Bazista, in which he coded some smart contract to send to 100 addresses in one TXID. Similar to how Pay to many works. We kept being friends, talking about crypto, for at least once a week. Then snakey got "scammed" by the ico I promoted for 2-3 days. Messaged JH for advice, and he told me, pay him back, take the L, and then just continue business as usual (for clarifications JH=pinkman on telegram, who also controls snakey's BTT Repaid snakey 4 ETH, which was about how much (give or take 1 ETH), I earnt off Chroynos Coin (the ICO he got scammed for). Had 3 ETH stuck in bread wallet, and there were issues with sending ETH at the time, so I gave my private key to JH, and asked him to help me fix it. A day later, JH says he can't fix it, and my 3 eth disappeared, into some shapeshift address. I asked JH about it, he said I couldn't access wallet, so I believed him, and since he was my friend, didn't bother any more. Bazista's Content campaign had to get paid out soon, and since JH had access to the tokens, after the airdrop contract, I asked him to give them back to me, so I can do the distribution. He avoided me for a day and then said some bullshit lie, about shouldn't I have them, or something. At the time I had some suspicions about JH, and after snakey said "I know you are zapo" and merited me, I was like WTF? I only told 3 people at that time, JH included. Snakey sent me screenshots of his phone, JH sent me some before. Both phones were the exact same, and had the same writing tone. At this point, everything clicked. So I still technically owe snakey 13 ETH. But after what he has done to me, with hacking my wallet, running away with tokens, pretending to be a friend, I'm 100 percent not paying him that. |
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I am not involved with jamal. He offered me a job, so I checked the telegram group, but I haven't made a decision yet.
I'd recommend you to not involve payment issues from Jamal, over to me. All of the ICO's you've listed have exit scammed, blocked me, or I've done the work for them (final sheet). I don't see how I'm lying/deceiving here.
You cannot say you are not involved with someone and that you think about taking a decision on a job offer they made you WHEN: 1. You posted a bounty campaign for him 2. You own the Pinned message in his telegram bounty group  3. You are clearly a moderator and you are involved in managing spreadsheets for him  I can see right thru you, and hopefully everyone can see now. You are so easy to debunk, your words are basically WORTHLESS. Everything you write is trying to manipulate and decieve people. He gave me/told me all of these things because he wants me to have a taste of what's coming. We are in a trial period. His plan was to make a whole website and everything, and that's what he really wants me onboard. I haven't decided yet. The work he gave for me managing spreadsheets was work I asked for, so I can make some income. I don't see how managing a couple spreadsheet means that I'm his right man. I don't understand what you have against me? I've treated you well, responded to you as I can, and tried to help you. I try to make some money off doing manual spreadsheet work and now I'm involved in a bunch of scams now? |
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- Minobia (scam) - Banana Coin (scam) - Dog racing (scam) - ModrnCoin (scam) - Bazista (scam) - Aeternum (left without saying anything...bla bla bla personal problems) - miBoodle (left without saying anything...bla bla bla personal problems) - FryEgg (left without saying anything...bla bla bla personal problems) - Vernam (Vernam tems is unaware of some parts of the campaign he promoted on btctalk) - Truegame (still has not paid translators, we (the translators) are going back and forth with Tgame team to solve this issue and is yet to be resolved). Here is the wallet of tokens that we should recieve: https://etherscan.io/token/0xf8e06e4e4a80287fdca5b02dccecaa9d0954840f?a=0x093b183834d6c93ed0f952b44c0d6efec33f1f15Minobia - They left me on the last couple weeks of the campaign, I was scammed by them. Banana Coin - Paid everyone via the online portal, I don't know how their ICO went. Dog Racing - Dev's exit scammed after I handed them the final sheet. ModernCoin - Ran away mid campaign Bazista - Used Pinkman to pay everyone except content. JH still has the tokens owed for content and last time I asked him, he said he lost them or some other bullshit. Aeternum, dev's stopped responding to me, started a new campaign with another manager Miboodle/FryEgg/Vernam/Truegame - have given final sheet in to them. I am not involved with jamal. He offered me a job, so I checked the telegram group, but I haven't made a decision yet. I'd recommend you to not involve payment issues from Jamal, over to me. All of the ICO's you've listed have exit scammed, blocked me, or I've done the work for them (final sheet). I don't see how I'm lying/deceiving here. |
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I think all these questions aren't related to the aTriz/zapo being questioned here, since the account was bought in 2015
I don't think so. Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community. Newbie heard something about bitcoin, found this forum and they made deal with scammers to use account to learn about btc. All that happened in late 2015. while aTriz made first post in 2017. If account changed hands it happened in 2017.
@Zapo/aTriz can you prove you bought account? It is something completely different than proving you didn't buy account http://archive.is/26ct8 ?  I can easily do that. Can you/suchmoon/The Pharmacist PM me? I have information which proves that, but I'd like not to be public. |
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-Snip-
Hi Eddie, the devs were requesting me to lower the budget mid-campaign, but it would be unfair to participants since it was mid-week, so I was only able to pay out a portion of participants. The team was currently flying over to dubai for a lot of meetings, so please give me and them some leeway. This week I misestimated how much I needed, and therefore had to ask the devs for another refill. I'm not incorrect. It did take a lot of planning and talking. It was a lot of months since my last lending applications. I was mistaken with the loan, so therefore offered higher interest. My apologies. In other words, he stole money from people he believed to be scammers. Now where have I heard that before? I'm not returning the 5 ETH or so I made off them, after I repaid that to snakey. That would be me losing money for doing work. Has aTriz shown any in his case; it's one lie after another.
In this thread, I haven't lied once. Moving forward can you provide the information now so that anyone who has tagged Pinkman12345 can also go and tag the snakey account. We wouldn't want to leave any loose ends out there.
All I know is told to JH. The positive feedback was for when we were friends, but now he has backstabbed me. @marlboroza I'm not quoting to save time. 1. 3 people have had access to aTriz. Me, original owner and someone who wanted to use it for a week after I got tagged (the shit posts) Here is when I took the account back. Only I've used Zapo. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4765774.msg43073635#msg430736352. 3, aTriz, atriz_alt and this one. 3. I don't know, I wasn't involved in the hashcows buisness. Me and the original owner had a short conversation about it, which basically was - We got hacked - We repaid 90 percent of people getting hacked - Slowly died off, and closed down 4/5/6/7. I can't really answer this in-depth because I wasn't involved in any of this old business. How did you possibly conclude that, your plan was gonna work? Your campaign management has never been bad, your judgement of things have been though. And that is why some people think you're a con artist/scammer/naive person et al.
Guess sometimes you've just got to ride the wave. I've got no other answer, and I'd rather come clean after a couple of campaigns, then have something looming over me forever. So I assume you also brought the private keys of aTriz's staked message back in 2013/14?
No, I have the old owner on skype and just asked him to sign whenever. I don't think he's active nowadays though. Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community.
I'm not lying.
Come on. Nobody needs to buy an account (and as marlboroza pointed out - from a scammy mining pool - much fail on due diligence) in order to "learn about BTC" or to "grow with the community". And you didn't post with the account until April 2017 so according to Mr. Occam you mentioned "late 2015" so that you could then say: Bought account when account buying was fine
Because buying an account in 2017 would not have been "fine" I guess. My bad. I bought it late 2016, didn't mean to mislead. I think I bought it decemberish, and then went to china for a month, came back and it was feburary, sort of forget for a couple months, and then started to look around and post. Other issues next post. |
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I think just creating this topic by Zapo himself is a brave step to confront his critics, either good or bad.
This was done because he had been on LoyceV's radar; and became a concern when asking for a decent sized no collateral loan. Essentially a come clean or I'll expose you situation. Edit - The only "loan" on the forum here is to snakey. And I'm not paying him the 10 eth or so, after I found out he was pinkman123345. So he backstabbed me and he wants me to pay him a couple grand? Bullshit.
I can't say I'm familiar with this loan in particular. If you could point me to a thread where it is discussed and makes sense why you wouldn't repay I'd appreciate it. I'm wondering if Snakey/Pinkman12345 did something to cause you to need the loan, by scamming you or stealing from you. Then loaned you what you needed. If that is the case and is provable your stance makes sense.
All in all, I'm for second chances. It does appear you burned up quite a few of those all in a short period of time; they could be lumped into one bad stretch of poor decisions. I like to believe you would have come clean after building up the account but that would have been less tempting than say doing it 3 weeks ago, you would have more and more to lose every week that passed as the account built up. The part that concerns me the most is that you had been renting out your Atriz account to someone while building up Zapo. Iirc this was ongoing while you began managing these campaigns; that to me is continuing on with poor decisions. You likely used your Atriz reputation to get those accounts under your belt, which is fine but do you see how the Atriz account still had some reputation, and that lending out that account could have resulted in a scam large or small. I also don't see the value in lending someone an account to test out the forum, considering that would not be their experience, due to ranking up with merit changing things. I hate to tell anyone how to act (apart from my kids) but I would suggest take time to think about how your actions will be perceived by/or affect the community before acting. For the foreseeable future, escrow account funds. Yes you will take a hit on your earnings from the fee, but you also add a layer of trust to your dealings. Good luck moving forward, try not to get caught up in shady shit. This is the "loan" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3253973.0I promised to pay him back, but after I found he was pinkman (who was my friend at the time) and then he backstabbed me. All the money I made off the ICO that pinkman got "scammed" was around 4 eth, and I repaid him 5 eth before he backstabbed me. I don't see why I should donate the remaining balance as the money I earnt accidentally is already gone.
Ok, misunderstood - thought you took a loan from pinkman12345, found out he is a scammer, and are not repaying. He has 0.54 BTC in defaulted loans as of now. Didn't understand the "earnt accidentally" bit... Either way, would appreciate your assistance in providing any and all relevant info about him here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043688Earn't accidentally: I took that payment upfront, found out it was a scam 3 days in, closed everything. |
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Edit - The only "loan" on the forum here is to snakey. And I'm not paying him the 10 eth or so, after I found out he was pinkman123345. So he backstabbed me and he wants me to pay him a couple grand? Bullshit.
A thought: If you have an outstanding "loan" to pinkman12345, a good place to start for karma-cleaning would be to repay what is owed by him to his victims or assist in debt recovery since you have worked closely with him in the past. ill gotten gains never go far, but here you have a chance to make ill gotten gains not so ill again (atleast partially). All the money I made off the ICO that pinkman got "scammed" was around 4 eth, and I repaid him 5 eth before he backstabbed me. I don't see why I should donate the remaining balance as the money I earnt accidentally is already gone. |
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Hello Zapo. I believe you paid me as a Full Member, not using Sr. Member rates. Please verify. Thank you. I see what happened. The formula put you at full member rates not senior. Will pay remaining in a day or 2. Thank you for informing. |
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Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community.
That makes about as little sense as all the other excuses we've heard from the 2015-2018 aTriz (for lack of a better definition) so there is good chance that this is indeed the same person. Here is what you could do: stop lying, get a job IRL, repay the loans or whatever you owe to whomever, stop fucking around with alts, and stay away from shady deals, or any financial responsibility or that matter (use an escrow if you must). Here is what you will do: same as usual. How else was I able to sign 2014-2013 private keys in 2017? I'm not lying. I would rebuttal the other arguments but they are too personal. If you want a definite answer for these I'd suggest PMing me. Edit - The only "loan" on the forum here is to snakey. And I'm not paying him the 10 eth or so, after I found out he was pinkman123345. So he backstabbed me and he wants me to pay him a couple grand? Bullshit. |
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Another new account with same two faced fucker... Did u sell aTriz
No. People started suspecting you the moment you came up with 2 new high paying campaigns out of nowhere, just like how aTriz did. Even if you haven't shown your naivety or anything here through the Zapo account (yet  ), it is still not enough for people to give you another chance. Instead of asking for another chance, prove it, and managing 2 campaigns isn't enough if you think that's going to change anything. Just be careful with what you're playing with. My original plan was to land a couple clients, and then expose myself later on when I had a bunch of experience, and I did some good work for the community. This was earlier than expected, but what can you do. Since the account is already tagged and they're running two signature campaigns which I believe are self-escrowed, has anybody given a thought that they might just run away with the escrow money and still have nothing to lose? I mean they have shown the tendency to come back again with new accounts.
I'm not exit scamming. I've never purposely scammed anyone, and all the issues from aTriz were from me being careless. I'll even pay out a little early today. Living up to the motto in his personal text - "stay dangerous" ..
It's from a music album released a couple months back - Stay Dangerous By YG. On a related note, I've always been curious as to whether Aventhe is an alt of aTriz/Zapo. It's been a lingering suspicion of mine based on communications I've had with both of them, though I don't have hard proof and there was never any reason to make an issue out of it. Don't know who Aventhe is, except on pm instance, where he asked me to check me for one of the BTC sig campaigns I was running on aTriz. So no, I'm not him. I would be interested to know if you disclosed this information to the teams behind BQT and IOU before beginning work as their campaign manager.
They know. I just checked the PMs I got from aTriz back in 2017, and the English is definitely different than what I've seen him write recently. It was nearly perfect in the PMs, whereas currently there are mistakes that he makes that are not consistent with what he used to write. That's just my opinion on it, and one could of course start making mistakes on purpose if one were so inclined.
I'm pretty sure my english isn't that bad now is it? I'm trying to learn how to touch type on a mechanical K70 keyboard, and before I was quite accustomed to my old Mac for typing. Probably this, but there's nothing else I can think of. Also - He was asking to borrow 0.3 BTC and repay 0.4 BTC..
That is a whole 33.333% interest! Quite high interest..
That's $650 in interest he is offering to pay.. Ouch..
It is somewhat the mark of a loan scammer to offer such high interest, so people are more greedy to fund the loan for them, put up with more risk for that profit, and the scammer isn't planning on paying back so they don't care what the interest is anyway.. Make the lenders rush to fill it, make them make hasty decisions..
Suspicious..
Stop spewing bullshit conspiracy theories. If mr. Atriz wanted to "scam", he would have done so as he had plenty of opportunities to do so with non-pocket change amounts.
Surprised given this thread. Thank you Lauda. The higher interest offered was half not knowing how high-interest rates are on bitcointalk, and half me sort of desperate. I've held probably ~2 BTC of escrow funds at once and never ran, so I won't be running with any funds here. I just checked the PMs I got from aTriz back in 2017, and the English is definitely different than what I've seen him write recently. It was nearly perfect in the PMs, whereas currently there are mistakes that he makes that are not consistent with what he used to write. That's just my opinion on it, and one could of course start making mistakes on purpose if one were so inclined. And the reason I questioned the Aventhe possibility is that the timing and writing style of the PMs I got were very similar, and both accounts were very active around the time I got those PMs. Both became inactive seemingly (to me) at the same time. Could be my paranoia, and I don't know if aTriz/Zapo would cop to Aventhe being his alt even if it were true. I would be interested to know if you disclosed this information to the teams behind BQT and IOU before beginning work as their campaign manager.
Yeah, good point. I just glanced at aTriz's post history and for some reason, I have this theory that, 4 people, or at least 3 people have controlled that account. The initial owner had control over the account till 2014, then either someone else bought it or used it from April 2017, and few months later, the aTriz we know controlled the account(might be the same owner who controlled it in 2014), and then a random spammer who used it for a few days. Here's the timeline Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community. I was in possession of the account, all the way until a couple weeks back, in which someone sort of wanted to trial the account for a week, and then I got it back. If you check my posts, there was a quite well made post addressing a scam accusation. Down below. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4765774.msg43073635#msg43073635TLDR - Bought account when account buying was fine, and then lended out a couple months back for a week, still have it. Only 3 people have had access to aTriz. |
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I know and used to like pinkman12345 very well, and we worked together a lot,
Hi Zapo/aTriz (  ) I understand that you said you used to know pinkman12345 however I am just wondering if you can help me to provide some information which will help me to bring back my 0.2 BTC and other guys 0.25 BTC? I hope you remember the telegram chat we has few days ago. Thanks mate for your understanding. Yes, please check telegram. I'll tell you everything I know about him. Thank you for your input people. |
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Hi BTT, Well, as most people have noticed as of today, I'm Kevin, also know as Zapo and previously, Atriz. LoyceV, posted this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042702.msg46487639#msg46487639, a couple hours ago, when I was looking for a 0.3BTC loan. I guess it's time to come clean and address some issues. I will swear on god, that this entire post will contain no lies, and all I wish is for other people to truly understand me. I’m not mad/disappointed at Loyce at all, actually I think it’s pretty moral of him to post that, and I completely understand his/her position. Let’s start at the beginning of aTriz’s downfall, shall we? Well, It was never my intention to EVER defraud, or scam anyone. I can admit I was very careless, and maybe didn’t act the best in certain situations, and this is due to my inexperience, and I guess spontaneous nature. The goal was to maintain a good relation with everyone, and have a steady income with management. The Bitbliss debacle was fucked up, especially in the way I responded. I never really dug deep into their site and never checked if they were a scam, and for some fucked up reason, I thought if I lied about being involved in it, it would be easily solved. The only time I noticed it was a scam, was when they stopped responding to my questions a week after the campaign ended, and they didn’t send over my last payment of 0.1/0.2 BTC if I can remember correctly. As for snakey debacle, I Definity had the idea of paying him back in mind. Like many people, I know and used to like pinkman12345 very well, and we worked together a lot, with him helping with eth dev work, and me giving him little tips here and there and giving him a small loan there and there. The last trust feedback I gave him was in December of 2017 when he helped me distribute tokens.  I was going to keep paying him back, as much as I could, until I them realized that Pinkman/JH/Lackeo, who was one of my closest friends at the time, was the same person as the guy who is trying to get 17 ETH off me. Of course, I was pissed, and at that point, I gave up on either redeeming myself on aTriz. No one would believe me, and there was no way I could prove this, except with just the similar write styles, and screenshots from JH, and screenshots from snakey where both a Samsung device (looked like a note8/s8). I hope the people reading this, can understand that I was definitely not going to hand over a couple grand to a friend who backstabbed me. Proof of them being alts can be found in this post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042099.msg46437898#msg46437898. As for the 0.3 BTC loan I requested, I was actually going to pay that back, as too many people’s surprises. This account was my last straw, and I really wanted to change from the old, careless aTriz style, to a new person who was kind, and someone I was pleased with. The only reason for the new account is because bitcointalk doesn’t really offer any chance of redemption, and I felt it was easier to start afresh, and then improve of myself, then attempting to change on aTriz and do some good as Loyce pointed out. Was also looking forward to working with them someday when I no longer have to hide the truth, they really are an incredible asset to the community Well, for the future, I’ll continue activities on this account, and keep attempting being the person I strive to be. I won’t exit scam with escrow funds, or work with any scam ICOs, or anything shady, but I think it’s already too late for me to make a return. I’ll remain in the community, hopefully for the best, and I’ll ask for a second chance, but I’m pretty I’ll be bright red after this. Well, feel free to ask me anything, now the rabbit’s out of the hat. I promise to answer everything honestly. |
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