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1861  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 07:53:16 PM
Has anyone seen ANY tweets or statements by Core bigshots in support of this miner agreement?  I haven't seen any and I've been looking. I think it's strange because the agreement would doom Classic if ratified.

I suspect the whole damn thing was just another delaying tactic, something we should have come to expect by now from BS et al.

Then why hasn't Core publicly denounced the consensus?
EDIT: Peter Todd doesn't like it because he thinks SW ought to be a hard fork. I actually kind of agree with him on that.

Can you link relevant quotes?
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/43bgrs/peter_todd_sw_is_not_safe_as_a_softfork/

Oh, well I saw that long ago. I thought maybe there was something recent/since the Consensus letter thingy?
oh right this is almost a month old.
i guess they found a workaround his concerns.
1862  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: February 24, 2016, 07:38:07 PM
i just send 1$ to 1LBHYYEbd8eqrfi9PiSEkj35e9vM3iZEFm with a 1cent fee

lets see what happens...

sending it now...
https://blockchain.info/address/1LBHYYEbd8eqrfi9PiSEkj35e9vM3iZEFm

if this dont work ill send it with a 5cent fee.

current block height 399867

Damn, 1 cent fee is 1% it's far too much already!
I usually pay a 0.1% fee and it goes in the first blocks!

Fees go per kilobytes used in the blockchain, not per amount sent. The blockchain doesn't care if you send 0.01 btc or 10 btc - only about how much space is used by the transaction.

Well. Logical I suppose. But how do you know the size of your transaction?

side note, my TX is the min size ~256bytes

block height 399870

0 confirmations
1863  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 07:33:06 PM
Has anyone seen ANY tweets or statements by Core bigshots in support of this miner agreement?  I haven't seen any and I've been looking. I think it's strange because the agreement would doom Classic if ratified.

I suspect the whole damn thing was just another delaying tactic, something we should have come to expect by now from BS et al.

Then why hasn't Core publicly denounced the consensus?
EDIT: Peter Todd doesn't like it because he thinks SW ought to be a hard fork. I actually kind of agree with him on that.

Can you link relevant quotes?
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/43bgrs/peter_todd_sw_is_not_safe_as_a_softfork/
1864  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 07:07:16 PM
i don't understand how Adam Back trying to distance himself away from Blockstream cheats F2Pool, or as any bearing on the consensus.

I can't speak for F2Pool, and don't even know if that announcement is genuine, but it's not so hard to think of why it might matter. For example, assume you're F2Pool and think the consensus agreement is a compromise you're not particularly keen on. You agree anyway since it's better to at least get something done and to mend some bridges between the confliciting sides. Then you find out that actually one of the sides doesn't endorse the consensus at all, so you're agreeing to a compromise you don't like for no good reason at all.

impossible! the blue hair guy shook on it.

oh i see where they're coming from now...
1865  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 06:50:23 PM
i just send 1$ to 1LBHYYEbd8eqrfi9PiSEkj35e9vM3iZEFm with a 1cent fee

lets see what happens...

sending it now...
https://blockchain.info/address/1LBHYYEbd8eqrfi9PiSEkj35e9vM3iZEFm

if this dont work ill send it with a 5cent fee.

current block height 399867
1866  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 06:47:14 PM
i just send 1$ to 1LBHYYEbd8eqrfi9PiSEkj35e9vM3iZEFm with a 1cent fee

lets see what happens...

sending it now...
1867  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 05:25:43 PM
Bitcoin Core 0.12 is officially released. I'm glad I can now ban the few 'classic' nodes that try to promote bitcoin altcoin fork.

wow Core is on the offensive.
1868  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 05:12:35 PM
1869  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
1870  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 05:02:50 PM
1871  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 04:56:05 PM
1872  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 04:46:45 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700411.msg13993733#msg13993733

Is this accurate? F2Pool.com backing out of consensus roundtable agreement?

i don't understand how Adam Back trying to distance himself away from Blockstream cheats F2Pool, or as any bearing on the consensus.

and that users trust rating says  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=16114
Quote

He is threatening to DDOS Kanos pool and is scamming his miners and not verifying and building on blocks from kanos pool, he says it himself in his posts, please see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13204430#msg13204430

Quote
Tried to extort Discus Fish (F2Pool) for 2 BTC (via DDoS attack).
correction that ^  was a sent Feedback.

no idea but doesn't seem very legit.

hmmm is F2Pool speaking for all its clients when it says that.


It has the bearing that if Back's support of the agreement is his own or is representative of Blockstream's support. It gives BS wiggle room to renegotiate terms it thinks is better (renege).  If this as a real report, that is. If F2Pool backs out (and I'm not sure why they would), it makes it more likely the agreement will fall apart.
ya F2Pool  backing out would make the agreement fall apart, then its back to square one.
i can't blame them for being mad at Blockstream, and now demand Clear support from them or else.

and now look at this : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/43bgrs/peter_todd_sw_is_not_safe_as_a_softfork/

at this point if F2Pool and the rest of the miner are ready for a change of government so am I.

it might be preferable to do this now, rather than later...



I completely agree, but there's no way that will happen without a market crash.  Elections are a scary new thing to the Chinese.

won't be much of an Election tho, the miners and coinbase are ready and willing to jump to classic at a moment's notice it seems.

I'd give'm a medal for trying so hard to keep the peace... and i'll support them whatever they deiced.

none of this kinda shit happend with Gavin.
1873  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 04:42:58 PM
fing hell, this is such hell, just when you think things might start moving again BAM peter todd block's the stream
1874  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 04:36:37 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700411.msg13993733#msg13993733

Is this accurate? F2Pool.com backing out of consensus roundtable agreement?

i don't understand how Adam Back trying to distance himself away from Blockstream cheats F2Pool, or as any bearing on the consensus.

and that users trust rating says  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=16114
Quote

He is threatening to DDOS Kanos pool and is scamming his miners and not verifying and building on blocks from kanos pool, he says it himself in his posts, please see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13204430#msg13204430

Quote
Tried to extort Discus Fish (F2Pool) for 2 BTC (via DDoS attack).
correction that ^  was a sent Feedback.

no idea but doesn't seem very legit.

hmmm is F2Pool speaking for all its clients when it says that.


It has the bearing that if Back's support of the agreement is his own or is representative of Blockstream's support. It gives BS wiggle room to renegotiate terms it thinks is better (renege).  If this as a real report, that is. If F2Pool backs out (and I'm not sure why they would), it makes it more likely the agreement will fall apart.
ya F2Pool  backing out would make the agreement fall apart, then its back to square one.
i can't blame them for being mad at Blockstream, and now demand Clear support from them or else.

and now look at this : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/43bgrs/peter_todd_sw_is_not_safe_as_a_softfork/

at this point if F2Pool and the rest of the miner are ready for a change of government so am I.

it might be preferable to do this now, rather than later...

1875  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 04:11:43 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700411.msg13993733#msg13993733

Is this accurate? F2Pool.com backing out of consensus roundtable agreement?

i don't understand how Adam Back trying to distance himself away from Blockstream cheats F2Pool, or as any bearing on the consensus.

and that users trust rating says  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=16114
Quote

He is threatening to DDOS Kanos pool and is scamming his miners and not verifying and building on blocks from kanos pool, he says it himself in his posts, please see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13204430#msg13204430

Quote
Tried to extort Discus Fish (F2Pool) for 2 BTC (via DDoS attack).
correction that ^  was a sent Feedback.

no idea but doesn't seem very legit.

hmmm is F2Pool speaking for all its clients when it says that.
1876  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 03:52:05 PM
did the ETH devs say they would allow it to scale?
1877  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 03:46:27 PM
An early good morning Bitcoinland.

Despite waking up early, I see last night's buying opportunity has already vanished, just as I feared it would.

Oh well, next time. For now, go Bitcoin go.

you should try selling some everyonce in a while and buy back lower if your not going to pump more $$ into it, this is a satisficing alternative.

its easy
you wait for me to be all like

Quote
MOOON
┗(°0°)┛

then you sell
then 6hours later you  buy back with 10% profits

 Cheesy
1878  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 03:36:28 PM
so i was thinking

we could have a second layer that is not centralized, but not as distributed as bitcoin.

we'd have censorship resistance and all that good stuff from decentralized systems, BUT the thing is we'd expect nodes to be sitting behind a fairly good home connection like the connection i have here 1GBbps.

a sorta of decentralized change tip sidechain.

not as secure as bitcion, but i believe we can get pretty fucking close, and besides thats the tradeoff of using bitcoin's "second layer", if yu want ultra secure payment, you push it to the first layer blockchain.
1879  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 03:21:36 PM
Let's see what the status of the apparatus is:

Mining is concentrated in a country known to nationalize businesses, be hostile towards Bitcoin and to manipulate currency.

Blocks are full and getting more fullerer.

Core is divided on scaling solutions, but won't do anything without near unanimity.

Etherium is threatening to overtake our firstmover advantage.

MtGox bankruptcy coins are going on the auction block probably in a few months.

Classic growth seems to have slowed or stopped.

So of course the market is going up.  Makes sense.









if scaling issue is not resolved soon this price might crash again. i notice the blocks have been 97% 98% full most of the day as i read through this.  what to do:


1. sell now in anticipation to buy back lower

2. HODL until fix is in and rebound to moon

3. wait.. HODL till breaks 300 then panic dump and then panic buy higher on the bull trap and then panic dump again .


go for it.


changetip scales.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frXVPD9fqTk


call it bitpal and there you go we scaled bitcoin  Cheesy
1880  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 02:00:26 PM
I swear to god that if I can't get profit with my short I stop trading :p

did you barrow coins to sell into the bear trap O_o?
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