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1321  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: March 13, 2016, 01:58:49 PM
now that we have know ETH will soon displace bitcoin, who's left to buy the ETH any higher?

As I understand it, ETH is not militantly anti-bank, anti-state, or anti-government.
So my guess would be banks, nations and governments.
And, of course, Russians wishing to invest in disruptive technologies which wouldn't earn them 7 YEARS IN THE GULAG Shocked, Wall st. money currently waiting in the wings, and, of course, those who wish to see and see GAINS OF 1500% IN JUST TWO MONTHS Shocked

Good money to be made. Why not give it a try?


FOBTT

FEAR OF BUYING THE TOP

1322  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People mocking of me for using Bitcoin on: March 13, 2016, 01:35:26 PM
I once told my mom that someday I will be rich, and I will be collecting bitcoin as a side job, but my mom said, how could you say that you will be rich with that thing that you can't even hold? you are just wasting your time using your computer and thinking you'll get rich just by sitting there.. funny, but its true...   Cheesy
are you rich yet?
what if bitcoin gose up 10X does that do it for you?

 Tongue
1323  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Microsoft Store to not Accept Bitcoin Anymore on: March 13, 2016, 11:21:33 AM
did they give a reason??

they must have somthing planed ( seriously doubt they would favor ETH over BTC ... somthing else planned...), maybe they plan to try and compete with BTC?

why would you seriously doubt that?Huh
They are already using eth on the azure platform, not btc...

all the signs are clear dude, just look up and read them.

IDK ETH is gas not money, it would be ODD for them to favor ETH over BTC for funding accounts.

can you post a link?

i guess its possible, i mean they MUST have a good reason for taking the time to scrap all the work they did to accept bitcoin

Sorry, impossible to link a rumor

well there involvement with ETH isn't a rumor can you link that so i can better understand what they have to do with ETH.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/ethereum-blockchain-as-a-service-now-on-azure/
well then...
1324  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: March 13, 2016, 10:57:49 AM


someone needs to tell them that with pools small time operations with 1 machine and a shit internet conection can mine bitcoin.

trying to send a billion dollars with bitcoin would be fascinating, especially if you didnt have any BTC to boot. Grin

I can see it now a 1billion dollar wall, for once the wall observer thread would be OT.
1325  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Microsoft Store to not Accept Bitcoin Anymore on: March 13, 2016, 10:51:08 AM
did they give a reason??

they must have somthing planed ( seriously doubt they would favor ETH over BTC ... somthing else planned...), maybe they plan to try and compete with BTC?

why would you seriously doubt that?Huh
They are already using eth on the azure platform, not btc...

all the signs are clear dude, just look up and read them.

IDK ETH is gas not money, it would be ODD for them to favor ETH over BTC for funding accounts.

can you post a link?

i guess its possible, i mean they MUST have a good reason for taking the time to scrap all the work they did to accept bitcoin

Sorry, impossible to link a rumor

well there involvement with ETH isn't a rumor can you link that so i can better understand what they have to do with ETH.
1326  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Microsoft Store to not Accept Bitcoin Anymore on: March 13, 2016, 10:47:54 AM
did they give a reason??

they must have somthing planed ( seriously doubt they would favor ETH over BTC ... somthing else planned...), maybe they plan to try and compete with BTC?

why would you seriously doubt that?Huh
They are already using eth on the azure platform, not btc...

all the signs are clear dude, just look up and read them.

IDK ETH is gas not money, it would be ODD for them to favor ETH over BTC for funding accounts.

can you post a link?

i guess its possible, i mean they MUST have a good reason for taking the time to scrap all the work they did to accept bitcoin
1327  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Microsoft Store to not Accept Bitcoin Anymore on: March 13, 2016, 10:41:50 AM
did they give a reason??

they must have somthing planed ( seriously doubt they would favor ETH over BTC ... somthing else planned...), maybe they plan to try and compete with BTC?

" MircoCoin, a blockchain not afraid of processing billion of micro transactions pre day " - MicroSoft 2017 Huh
1328  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2016, 10:34:08 AM
Wow, ETH is still performing...

i put a tight stop loss and it got triggered  Tongue

bubble pop?

 Cheesy
1329  Other / Off-topic / Re: what you like best in Bitcoin ? on: March 13, 2016, 10:28:18 AM
the politics
1330  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2MB Pros and Cons on: March 13, 2016, 10:22:51 AM
Pro: Not bumping limit to 2MB could cause a fork.

it's no secret poeple want 2MB, we've seen open letters signed by many many top bitcoin businesses stating they want bigger blocks, we've also see the same thing coming from the a huge % of hashrate, it's not unreasonable to assume, inaction on this issue will cause a fork.
I really doubt it. People who are really working for the best of Bitcoin would never risk this.
but.... they are risking it, right now.

gavin left core and created XT and now helping Classic and Unlimited, in an attempt at forking bitcoin.
did you miss the part when like 20 of the top bitcoin businesses sign a document that explained why they wanted bigger blocks?
the bitcoin market has drop several times because this kind of fork was seen as a credible threat.

sure this it's unlikely bitcoin will fork over this in the near future, but should core refuse to comply with >80% of hashing power, that's not only risking it, thats asking for it.

What is happening is certain people want to take over development. The TX capacity of Bitcoin is what they saw as a way to socially engineer the public into believing there is a problem the core developers are not addressing.
Exactly. People are obsessed with the 2 MB block size limit.

Yes poeple are "obsessed", many are willing to fork over this issue.

Hmm, could also be the fork had already happened when blockstream came into the game and we already are on BSC = Blockstreamcoins ....

So its the try to get old BTC back

you know, it's sad how true this rings.

the project has been lead with a certain vision of how it would scale, that vision had not changed up until they took over the project.
1331  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: March 13, 2016, 09:45:45 AM

i want to talk about this "nuclear option" he speaks of; Switching the POW algo and make every single miner useless.

I think it's very important to note that devs need the support from economic marjory to do anything. let alone change the POW algo...
If they tried to pull this off, all they would really achieve is forking THEMSELVES off OUR Bitcoin Network.

1332  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: March 13, 2016, 09:30:01 AM
lol they all agree that there doesn't need to be a block size increase but they all agree to increase to HF 2MB in a year...

The subtlety appears lost on you adam. You do understand that "2MB yesterday" and "2MB in one year" are different to each other, don't you?

I'm pointing out that the difference in opinion from both sides is only time frame.

No you weren't, you were trying to suggest that the Core devs were contradicting themselves ("they disagree with blocksize increases, but they also agree to an increase in 2 years")


Kind of ironic, that it's actually you that was representing the contradiction, don't you think?

in anycase  Trace Mayer is wrong about them disagreeing with a blocksize increase..  unless what i've been hearing about most core devs like ( or will at least entertain ) the idea of 2MB block limit in 2017, is lies.
1333  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2MB Pros and Cons on: March 13, 2016, 08:47:27 AM
I feel the Cons side is a bit thin and has to much red.
I do believe there are more CONS.
I will want to expand on this point "Increased resource usage (capacity, bandwidth, processing power)"
1334  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2MB Pros and Cons on: March 13, 2016, 08:41:15 AM
You could also just start using Classic.

http://nodecounter.com/
The thread was solely designed to not mentioned any implementation. It seems that the 'forkers' are unable to follow simple rules. Why am I not surprised?
OP has not at made any guidelines regarding this.
I do agree it's a good idea to not mention  "Core or Classic" in OP, but for the purpose of the discussion, i believe its OK to ref. Core or Classic in the explanations.
When you're trying to prove a point like i just did about, it helps to be able to point to real world events surrounding the block limit debate.

1335  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2MB Pros and Cons on: March 13, 2016, 08:30:56 AM
It's not the idea of 2MB that poeple are obsessed about, it's about cores vision for bitcoin's future. not everyone agrees we should consider the specs of a 60$ raspberry pi when designing the world's financial settlement layer.
1336  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: An open letter to the miners on: March 13, 2016, 08:25:09 AM
Dear miners,

I am a bitcoin investor, speculator, end user. I am asking you, no i am begging you, JUST DO IT!

I know you do not want to offend anyone or step on some toes; you want to make sure that when you put the 2MB limit in place it is because we have reached "consensus" on the issue. I BEG YOU, do not delay any longer, assert your power! do not wait for somthing that may never happen, do not let a dev believe they know better than you, or have more power than you, they don't, show them! let them feel the wrath of your hashes, Command their respect!

Put in place the 2MB limit TODAY, without their "approval". Put out some code of your own, gather >51% hashing power, and FORK us to the next level! if this offends the some poeple / core devs and they rage quit, GOOD! we dont want them trying to control bitcoin, it is not for them to control, bitcoin is OURS not theirs! amass 51% and take control!

As an investor / speculator, I promise you, if you can demonstrate that bitcoin's destiny isn't in the hands of any one group, but requires vast amounts of power to sway one way or the other,and that no amount of FUD can stop you/us; I will value bitcoin much more.

Time is now, do not delay, own the day!



did this do anything for you miners?

did you at least get a good lol  Smiley
1337  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2MB Pros and Cons on: March 13, 2016, 08:13:55 AM
Pro: Not bumping limit to 2MB could cause a fork.

it's no secret poeple want 2MB, we've seen open letters signed by many many top bitcoin businesses stating they want bigger blocks, we've also see the same thing coming from the a huge % of hashrate, it's not unreasonable to assume, inaction on this issue will cause a fork.
I really doubt it. People who are really working for the best of Bitcoin would never risk this.
but.... they are risking it, right now.

gavin left core and created XT and now helping Classic and Unlimited, in an attempt at forking bitcoin.
did you miss the part when like 20 of the top bitcoin businesses sign a document that explained why they wanted bigger blocks?
the bitcoin market has drop several times because this kind of fork was seen as a credible threat.

sure this it's unlikely bitcoin will fork over this in the near future, but should core refuse to comply with >80% of hashing power, that's not only risking it, thats asking for it.

What is happening is certain people want to take over development. The TX capacity of Bitcoin is what they saw as a way to socially engineer the public into believing there is a problem the core developers are not addressing.
Exactly. People are obsessed with the 2 MB block size limit.

Yes poeple are "obsessed", many are willing to fork over this issue.
1338  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2MB Pros and Cons on: March 13, 2016, 08:00:03 AM
You could also just start using Classic.

http://nodecounter.com/
lol will you look at this http://nodecounter.com/

Quote
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

Bitcoin development has been bought out by a private company called "Blockstream".

Blockstream is currently paying off many of the key Bitcoin "Core" software developers.

Blockstream has directed the crippling of Bitcoin in order to provide the solution, for their own future, financial gain.

These Blockstream-paid Bitcoin developers (for the Bitcoin "Core" software) are enforcing a limit on how much information can be transacted in Bitcoin.   This is limiting the number of transactions to just 3 per second, approximately.

Blockstream is concurrently developing a "solution" to this problem, called the "Lightning Network".   This "solution" is to be placed on top of the crippled Bitcoin network to allow it to scale.   Blockstream will monetize the Lightning Network in the form of fees required to use their service.

Additionally, for the past 8 months, Blockstream has been utilizing censored discussion forums for their communication, thus preventing awareness of this issue from being widely known.   All discussion mentioning this has been (and continues to be) deleted and banned.

In short, Blockstream has created a problem so they can provide the solution.   And they are doing everything they can to keep it that way.  (View more info on this on the un-censored forum)

- See more at: http://nodecounter.com/#sthash.EINoICaa.dpuf

i guess this kinda thing is to be expected from nodecounter.com.....
1339  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People mocking of me for using Bitcoin on: March 13, 2016, 07:57:33 AM
don't waste your breath

if you insist on schooling them say:

" digital money, wtf did you think was going to happen?? if you think blockchain tech is a joke, JP morgan along with every other bank in the world disagrees with you, get with the program, money is turning digital, crying about it or choosing to remain ignorant won't do you any good."

...and they say "why of course money's digital, Sweetie, did you just figure it out? I've been using this here CC since before you was a disturbing leer in your Daddy's eye! Did you think Mommy's money was analog? Or that the Japanese boy you always talk about, what's his name? Tasoshi? Satooshie? Did you think he invented digital money?"
if they say somthing like that, it's likely the concept that their "digital" Fiat dollars cannot be "sent" without a cantralathority ( and all of what that implies ) is probably far beyond their grasp.

so...

just keep pointing to the fact that banks across the world are investing into building blockchains. beat them over the head with it until they accept it as truth, and ask "why are they doing that?"

you say, "profit."

1340  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2MB Pros and Cons on: March 13, 2016, 03:49:35 AM
Pro: Not bumping limit to 2MB could cause a fork.

it's no secret poeple want 2MB, we've seen open letters signed by many many top bitcoin businesses stating they want bigger blocks, we've also see the same thing coming from the a huge % of hashrate, it's not unreasonable to assume, inaction on this issue will cause a fork.
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