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1421  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 21, 2013, 10:51:45 PM
You said, instead of focusing on arbitrary phenomena, we should focus instead on the ever-present 'being' of existence. But what is the ever-present 'being' of existence and how is it distinct from any other arbitrary phenomena?

I didn't say that there are only two "things" in the Universe, I'm saying that when it comes to isolated, conditional phenomena, that phenomena is arbitrary to the extent that there are many, perhaps even an infinite number of possible and valid explanations for that phenomena depending upon the context you place it in.

Yes, this is obvious. If all phenomena had only one possible explanation then there would be no need for science.

Placing arbitrary phenomena in the context of absolute truth is more difficult, but it's fun because that's when you get to resolve paradoxes.

Placing arbitrary phenomena in the context of absolute truth is more difficult than what? What are you comparing this too?


The "being" is with you always, and if you quiet your mind down you'll experience it more fully.  It's non-empirical because it isn't anything you observe, and to that extent it isn't a thing.

Placing arbitrary phenomena in the context of absolute truth is more difficult than placing arbitrary phenomena in the context of a specific discipline.  For example, we might see a white guy rob a black guy on the street and a social worker may explain it in the context of "oppression" or "social injustice" while a neuroscientist might explain it in the context of "neurochemicals and electrical signals."  The problem with this is that all of a sudden you have concepts being overextended and being applied to things where they have no business being applied to (e.g. I'm dating my girlfriend because of "neurochemicals and electrical signals"...or maybe it's because I just fucking want to).  People get away with being careless when theorizing from these disciplines specifically because the overextension of these concepts often goes ignored, undetected, or unchallenged.
1422  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is anyone worried how fast BTC is climbing in price? on: October 21, 2013, 09:51:08 PM
Some notes to remember about Bitcoin.

1) It's a different market, and the world hasn't seen one like it as far as I'm aware.  Thus, to make the assumption that you can analyze or predict the economy based upon effective market analysis tactics in the same way that you would analyze fiat currencies or the gold markets isn't necessarily true.

2) If you do some research about Bitcoin and simply look at the math behind it, mass adoption of Bitcoin would likely necessitate the formation of what would appear to be some of the most gargantuan bubbles ever seen.  Hell, even an influx of only 1% of the worlds GDP over the course of a few years would create a 'bubble' so large that our heads would be spinning in euphoric delirium.

3) New systems, let alone economic ones, are prone to mass instability/volatility.  They have to be, and this is an inevitable result between the ratio in size between the smaller system and the larger system(s) in which it is nested, and with which it receives and relays its inputs and outputs.  As systems grow and become more balanced, the effects of "extreme cases" (in Bitcoin, these are your whales and your 'manipulators') are minimized.

TL;DR:  If you've been around this market for more than a year or two, $20-$30 swings in a day isn't very shocking...you just take this into account when safeguarding your assets.

1423  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 21, 2013, 09:28:09 PM
So the universe only consists of two things, the ever-present 'being' of existence and arbitrary phenomena?

While I agree the universe is full of arbitrary phenomena, I have no idea what the ever-present 'being' of existence is, and so can't comment on it.


I didn't say that there are only two "things" in the Universe, I'm saying that when it comes to isolated, conditional phenomena, that phenomena is arbitrary to the extent that there are many, perhaps even an infinite number of possible and valid explanations for that phenomena depending upon the context you place it in.

Placing arbitrary phenomena in the context of absolute truth is more difficult, but it's fun because that's when you get to resolve paradoxes.
1424  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 21, 2013, 07:05:17 PM
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Just need to interject to point out that unconditional love is not actually love, and is meaningless. When you love someone regardless, that's not really love, that's just you not caring about what they do.
This is not true.  Fly.  Do something impossible.  Why can't you?  Negative energy, doubt, it resides on earth, it resides in you.  In a world of unconditional love, you could fly, you could do anything at whim.  I've done it, I've seen it, I know it's true.

So, what you're saying is, the act of loving, caring, and taking care of someone, even at expense to yourself, is maifested in breaking physics and levitating? To love is to be able to fly? I'm going to take a really crazy guess here: you're single, right?


Universal truth - everything just is.  You can describe it from the left perspective or the right, but what your describing still just is.

That is the most worthless, useless, and lazy conclusion in the world, ever, and is no better than the answer "God did it." Lazy stupid idiots say "It is what it is" or "God did it" and end it at that. People who actually like to use their heads don't stop at what it is, they ask WHY it is.
Yes, but when are you going to stop asking why and start affirming some beliefs?

To take the middle ground, I think it's important to recognize both perspectives.

Is there "arbitrary phenomena"?  Yes.  What happens when people study isolated, arbitrary phenomena?  You get arguments for and arguments against some position.

Is there some absolute truth that supersedes arbitrary phenomena?  Yes.

Is there something we can lean from this?  Yes.  Definitely.  And it can lend itself to utility. 

Personally, I treat arbitrary phenomena practically.  I use inference as anyone else to make decisions on the fly and to navigate the world.

But when I get home, I reflect upon everything.  In recognizing isolated phenomena as arbitrary, it simply makes it easier to go with the flow of things, to enjoy the uncertainty and unpredictability in life, and to remember that if I'm having a shitty day, it was only due to some arbitrary phenomena that has come and gone, or will go.  But, I also remember that there is an absolute truth that is anything but arbitrary, and this is where I build my foundation.  If I build my foundation upon conditional phenomena, then that foundation is going to be weak because it too will be conditional.  If I build my foundation upon absolute truth, then I will be stronger, tougher, and more capable of dealing with the bullshit that comes and goes in life.

There is benefit in recognizing that, as dank said, things just "are" is that, if you recognize this enough, you will become much more relaxed and comfortable and satisfied with life. 

Ever sit in a room without a friend or family member to talk to?  Without radio, without tv, without the Internet, without a book, without food or water...without any distraction at all.  What happens?  Well, you probably start to get fidgety and bored and you wish you had some distraction nearby to remove the monotony.

But...wtf?  Why is virtually every person a walking ADD case without distractions?  Why can't the vast majority of people just be with themselves and be content with that? 
Well, if your focus is on arbitrary, conditional phenomena and you think that's all reality has to offer, then it makes sense that you would seek comfort through distraction.

On the other hand, if you shift your focus to the ever-present 'being' of existence, then you can become content and satisfied simply 'being'.  The utility this provides is limitless.
1425  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is anyone worried how fast BTC is climbing in price? on: October 20, 2013, 11:36:18 PM
Some notes to remember about Bitcoin.

1) It's a different market, and the world hasn't seen one like it as far as I'm aware.  Thus, to make the assumption that you can analyze or predict the economy based upon effective market analysis tactics in the same way that you would analyze fiat currencies or the gold markets isn't necessarily true.

2) If you do some research about Bitcoin and simply look at the math behind it, mass adoption of Bitcoin would likely necessitate the formation of what would appear to be some of the most gargantuan bubbles ever seen.  Hell, even an influx of only 1% of the worlds GDP over the course of a few years would create a 'bubble' so large that our heads would be spinning in euphoric delirium.

3) New systems, let alone economic ones, are prone to mass instability/volatility.  They have to be, and this is an inevitable result between the ratio in size between the smaller system and the larger system(s) in which it is nested, and with which it receives and relays its inputs and outputs.  As systems grow and become more balanced, the effects of "extreme cases" (in Bitcoin, these are your whales and your 'manipulators') are minimized.

TL;DR:  If you've been around this market for more than a year or two, $20-$30 swings in a day isn't very shocking...you just take this into account when safeguarding your assets.
1426  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Issues that are Frightning on: October 20, 2013, 11:06:32 PM
1) The unregulated trading of BTC against Fiat Currencies
2) The BTC Price Increase vs. The actual volume  (MARKET DEPTH)
3) Mining Equipment all being sold on Pre-Order to Limited Liability Corporations
4) The Difficulty Level vs. The Parabolic BTC Price
5) The fact that bitcombubble.com/org/net have already been registered!

Anyone else can add to this list?


6) Statements made from people who know little to nothing about Bitcoin about why a particular element of Bitcoin or its community is "frightening."

It is their lack of knowledge that leads to the fear.

Yep, and that lack of knowledge is frightening to me if they're using Bitcoin in spite of their fear.  Rather, I'm scared for them.
1427  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Issues that are Frightning on: October 20, 2013, 09:17:13 PM
1) The unregulated trading of BTC against Fiat Currencies
2) The BTC Price Increase vs. The actual volume  (MARKET DEPTH)
3) Mining Equipment all being sold on Pre-Order to Limited Liability Corporations
4) The Difficulty Level vs. The Parabolic BTC Price
5) The fact that bitcombubble.com/org/net have already been registered!

Anyone else can add to this list?


6) Statements made from people who know little to nothing about Bitcoin about why a particular element of Bitcoin or its community is "frightening."
1428  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: All my bitcoins locked in armory forever, how do I pull them out? on: October 20, 2013, 06:34:03 PM
I used to gamble with Bitcoin back in the day (because there are no laws that prevent minors from gambling with Bitcoin Cheesy)

I put all my Bitcoins in an armory wallet, that I encrypted, and now it's locked in there :@:@

Please don't misunderstand, I have my paper backup and passphrase, I'm not locked out in that sense. You see, when I open armory, either it shows Armory is offline, or if I start it with "skip online check" it does "scanning transaction history" and gets so damn laggy. How do I pull my coins out of armory, I just realized there is no good reason for me to be using armory, the Bitcoin client loads faster and has encryption too.



tl;dr - All coins in armory, got passphrase and paper backup, but can't open the wallet.

Anyone that helps me will get 10 cents worth of BTC. Thanks.

Are you saying that when Armory is online and trying to sync, it syncs indefinitely?  I was having this problem on one of my laptops with 4 gb ram.  It took Armory over 18 hours to sync (ridiculous) and then would immediately crash upon trying to send any transaction.

If you have a better computer with more ram, you could just download another copy of Armory onto that computer and import your wallet.

The previous blockchain.info suggestion should also work.

Another option is to find another trusted armory user, create a watching-only copy of your wallet, and send that watching-only copy to another user.  Then, that user can generate an offline transaction, send the transaction back to you to be signed with your offline private keys, and then you send the signed transaction back to the trusted user so that he can broadcast the transaction from his online Armory.

Edit:  I could assist you with this.

Edit 2:  I use Armory soley because of its offline-transaction capabilities.  My private keys never touch the internet, ever.
1429  Bitcoin / Technical Support / Re: I generated an address that already exists on: October 20, 2013, 05:08:18 PM
You just drew that out of your ass right now, didnt you?   Cheesy

yup!  Totally out of my ass, because I know that it's not possible to comprehend odds so astronomical as 2^160 so anything I can write down will be more likely.

Will

2^161

Wow!  Did it on my first try!
1430  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 20, 2013, 04:42:53 PM
And look what this thread has turned into.

Gotta love the bible quotes. It feels like in US everyone takes his bible, underlines stuff he likes, and crosses what he does not like. Looks like a coloring book in the end. Even if someone believes that god exists (which is false Cheesy ), believing in the old ass book, written by "who knows?" and "for whatever purpose" which in fact is just a fiction. We could as well turn to Greek mythology text or Egyptian glyphs. And when someone starts to chew on bible text, trying to attack or defend some points, it feels like special Olympics.

Wrong-o, and I suspect the reason why you believe it's wrong is because you see what idiots often do with a religious text.

It's been suggested by people such as Sam Harris that the problem with religious moderates is that they provide an umbrella of cover for often destructive, religious fundamentalists.

I'd like to add that the problem with religious fundamentalists is that they provide no umbrella to those who actually understand and can provide a logical basis for theism.  The problem is that reality is stranger than fiction, and so any truthful statements made about the metaphysical nature of reality are often perceived as related to religious fundamentalism (i.e. these types of assertions are seen as 'new age,' 'trendy,' or some other catch word with a negative connotation) and get cast by the wayside.
1431  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 18, 2013, 10:07:34 PM


"Be excellent to one another". If we all tried to live by JUST that, the world would be a better place. Adding all the "shalt and shalt nots" makes things worse. An it harm no one, do what thou wilt.

"Be excellent to each other.  Party on dudes."

Is that better then quoting scripture? Wink

That said, I think "Be excellent to one another" is pretty much the point of the New Testament when Jesus said the greatest commandment is to "Love your neighbor as yourself."  Can we agree with that at least?




Well...

No. Not because I'm trying to pick a fight, but because it implies that everyone loves themselves. Me, I'm my own worst critic, so applying that outside myself could cause some serious problems. I think the B&T quote is better, because it implies nothing about your motivations, just your actions.

The New Testament is seriously at odds with the old anyway. The descriptions of Yahweh in the OT are of a vengeful, frightened, bully with a lot of power and little self restraint. The NT version is still vengeful and frightened, but also full of self doubt. Not a good candidate for peace.

I personally like the Golden Rule because it is an ethical system that is both objective (it distributes to everyone; everyone can follow it) and subjective at the same time.  I also think it's plausible that the Golden Rule may actually be a Universal ethical law, and that individual actors, acting as proxies,  may relay the sum of their ethical output back to a global level of consciousness in a cyclical, continuous feedback loop that guides the evolution of the Universe.  It's a half-baked idea I've had for a while but never fully explored.
1432  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 18, 2013, 07:46:19 PM
I am only seeking funding to make this concert happen, in reality.  By really going places and talking to people about it.  I need money to travel the US to find people that can contribute.

I'll tell you how it'd be spent: I would buy a bike, ride around the US, with my guitar.  Talk to some people that are in a position to help, and botta boom botta bing, big ass concert.

This is all I care about, all I put my energy towards.

Let me disclaim, to be fair: if this doesn't manifest into reality by 2013, 2012 is nothing, concert doesn't happen, I will get a job and pay my dues.

If this does manifest into reality, however, nobody would be forced to work for something they don't want to do their self.

Dank, honestly, I think it's good your mind is focused on love.

But about your "signs," you've made some prophetic claims in the past that have already fallen by the wayside.

I think you see some interesting 'signs', but you really don't know what to do with them.  And don't bash rationalism at the same that you're using reason to convince us of something.

You're logically inconsistent.
1433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 18, 2013, 04:46:44 AM


That's pretty amazing that you came to that conclusion through the empirical observation of isolated phenomena without a theory linking those phenomena to the rest of reality as a whole.  So...nice refined guesstimate?

Do you adhere to a positivist view of the world?  

What rest of reality are you referring to?

I don't know what a "positivist view" means.

The problem with forming an absolute conclusion through empirical means is because isolated phenomena are not only defined by what they are, but also by what they are not (e.g. A given banana is what it is because it's not a not-banana).  When you perceive an isolated element, you separate it from the rest of reality and study it as if nothing else could possibly explain it (unless you form a model incorporating a series of isolated phenomena that explain each other, but even then, the problem appears all over again as you could combine that model with others in another explanatory system ad infinitum).

The problem is that this typically occurs due to a positivist worldview, a requirement for the scientific method.  A positivist worldview assumes that there are concrete objects out there in the universe that can be observed and explained solely in terms of themselves.  The scientific method, however, conveniently rules out certain truths simply because they are not empirical.  For example, the scientific method does not permit studying the very mathematical principles and concepts that the scientific model quite literally depends on, specifically in the process of theory-making (i.e. "Let's construct a scientific theory that is stated in a mathematical way, but let's not permit any conclusions about reality based upon abstract math principles.").
1434  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 18, 2013, 03:22:57 AM
 
It sure seems to be an active research area for philosophers, but what can scientists actually do with their good intentions if they want to study the ego/consciousness and discover what it is?
Behavioural science can't research something that is "non-behavioural" so that seems to be out.
Similarly, Empirical science relies on a separation between the first-person, e.g.: a scientist, versus an outside world that they're measuring. Since consciousness is defined as a first-person experience, third-person evidence also seems like a non-starter. Sure, there's plenty of speculation that special arrangements of particles (brains) house, manage, and even create a consciousness, but that's not the same as 'is' consciousness.

Quote from: Wikipedia
Empiricism in the philosophy of science emphasizes evidence, especially as discovered in experiments. It is a fundamental part of the scientific method that all hypotheses and theories must be tested against observations of the natural world rather than resting solely on a priori reasoning, intuition, or revelation.

There seems to be no deeper knowledge than that pesky ego, yet it seems to be specifically excluded. The empiricists are happy to use consciousness/self/ego or whatever one wants to call it to measure everything else, but studying it would break their own rules.

This is why I brought up 'consciousness' in an atheism discussion. Consciousness seems equivalent to a minimalist definition of god without religious frills. Or you could call it Ietsism or something like that. The lengths people will go to to avoid the stigma of religious gods... Wink

Consciousness might seem magical to us, but that is really just an illusion.  It is a physical reality of neurons interacting.  The full details we don't know but it's just a physical process.   There's no reason to think it won't be eventually unravelled, since the physical information all resides in the brain.  It just needs to be gathered and analysed.

That's pretty amazing that you came to that conclusion through the empirical observation of isolated phenomena without a theory linking those phenomena to the rest of reality as a whole.  So...nice refined guesstimate?

Do you adhere to a positivist view of the world? 
1435  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 16, 2013, 11:46:02 PM
Where does the operating system and software come from, if not from the CPU? Is computer software just an illusion being experienced by a computer?

Computer operating systems, CPUs,and software are expressions of consciousness.  In fact, all technology is an expression of consciousness.
Computers are networks of paths that electrons can take, not some higher consciousness. Learn what you're talking about before you make theories about it. Besides, we KNOW EXACTLY how computers work, we made them. There's no mystery about it like there is with the brain.

No shit we make them, hence they are an expression of consciousness.
Only in the sense that consciousness allowed us to design them.

Yep, something like that.
1436  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 16, 2013, 11:04:15 PM
Where does the operating system and software come from, if not from the CPU? Is computer software just an illusion being experienced by a computer?

Computer operating systems, CPUs,and software are expressions of consciousness.  In fact, all technology is an expression of consciousness.

I assume you believe that the software and operating system are also separate from the CPU and memory they are running on?

Well, when you go to the store, can you buy software and operating systems independent of CPUs and memory?  Sure, they're different.



Oh, so is that how you see our "cosciousness," just software running on a computer, and the computer being (eventually, far in the future) swappable?

Basically, yes.  I think the body is one of potentially many suitable vessels for consciousness.  I really have no idea how this would work in practice, but I've had experiences of my consciousness transcending my body, albeit briefly. 

Does it matter that our cosciousness is not like software on an interchangeable CPU, but is a function of a series of physical networks in the brain, and the only way to make a copy of someone's consciousness is to make an exact physical duplicate of mesh of neurons in the brain? I.e. our minda are mor a product of physical interractions of electrons and chemicals along unique physical paths, like gears and cogs in clockwork, rather than information stored in digital form that is free to exist on any system that allows information to be written. So, sorry, I guess a better analogy/question would have been, does a wind-up clock's time keeping exist outside of it's mechanism?
But, I guess eventually, thanks to the turing principle, if computers get fast enough, such a physical/mechanical system can be simulated in a digital form...

I need to think about this one a little more.  Thanks!
1437  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 16, 2013, 11:02:57 PM
Where does the operating system and software come from, if not from the CPU? Is computer software just an illusion being experienced by a computer?

Computer operating systems, CPUs,and software are expressions of consciousness.  In fact, all technology is an expression of consciousness.
Computers are networks of paths that electrons can take, not some higher consciousness. Learn what you're talking about before you make theories about it. Besides, we KNOW EXACTLY how computers work, we made them. There's no mystery about it like there is with the brain.

No shit we make them, hence they are an expression of consciousness.
1438  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: No confirmation in over 90 minutes? on: October 16, 2013, 06:00:04 PM
your going to find this happening.

with so many high speed miners jumping on each day creating blocks in under 2 minutes, at some point the network needs to even this out to a 10 minute average per block. causing an extremely difficult block to crack just to get things back to normal.

the other part is that mining pools are getting greedy some of them wont accept a transaction without a fee, leaving some transactions in a queue.. so dont expect the 10 minute rule to apply in 98% of cases for your particular transactions.. its the rule of averages, over multiple blocks

I don't think what you're saying about difficulty is correct. The difficulty does not change with each block but changes every 2 weeks or so. Can someone confirm or deny this?

i never said it retargets with every block...

But you did imply that if miners are just very lucky in solving blocks then the network will force a block that is extra-hard to solve, and this is incorrect.  There is no 'need' to even anything out.  We could solve 2016 1-minute blocks in a row and the  network wouldn't give a shit.  Only statisticians would be having a field day with it Cheesy
1439  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: October 16, 2013, 05:55:13 PM
Where does the operating system and software come from, if not from the CPU? Is computer software just an illusion being experienced by a computer?

Computer operating systems, CPUs,and software are expressions of consciousness.  In fact, all technology is an expression of consciousness.

I assume you believe that the software and operating system are also separate from the CPU and memory they are running on?

Well, when you go to the store, can you buy software and operating systems independent of CPUs and memory?  Sure, they're different.



Oh, so is that how you see our "cosciousness," just software running on a computer, and the computer being (eventually, far in the future) swappable?

Basically, yes.  I think the body is one of potentially many suitable vessels for consciousness.  I really have no idea how this would work in practice, but I've had experiences of my consciousness transcending my body, albeit briefly. 

Although, I wouldn't call consciousness just some ordinary brand of software.  I don't necessarily believe, for example, that there is something analogous to a software creator that created consciousness outside of consciousness itself.
1440  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: No confirmation in over 90 minutes? on: October 16, 2013, 05:10:10 PM
your going to find this happening.

with so many high speed miners jumping on each day creating blocks in under 2 minutes, at some point the network needs to even this out to a 10 minute average per block. causing an extremely difficult block to crack just to get things back to normal.

the other part is that mining pools are getting greedy some of them wont accept a transaction without a fee, leaving some transactions in a queue.. so dont expect the 10 minute rule to apply in 98% of cases for your particular transactions.. its the rule of averages, over multiple blocks

I don't think what you're saying about difficulty is correct. The difficulty does not change with each block but changes every 2 weeks or so. Can someone confirm or deny this?

Difficulty adjusts every 2016 blocks according to the average hash rate over the previous 2016 blocks.  If the hash rate increases above this average, then the 10-minute average time to solve a block will decrease.  For example, if hash rate rises 100% above the previous average, then on average you will see 5-minute blocks until the next readjustment.

This is why we're seeing difficulty readjustments every 11-12 days instead of the predictable 14 at a constant hash rate...network hash rate keeps increasing.

There is also no mechanism that will make a block extra-easy or extra-hard to solve.
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