He said he couldn't care less. I, however, could care less, so I will take some. He said to give him a good reason. I gave him one. I'll at least help spread it around. That way, he can be virtuous and keep some money, I can be virtuous and keep some money, and you get some too. You can be 2nd on my list.
I couldn't care less about "gaining money" from SolidCoins, I don't need any extra money. However I'll give them to people and businesses and do my part to support a growing economy. I'm not going to give them to BTC trolls or people that aren't supportive of SolidCoin. I get a lot more joy from helping out people that don't have much and helping them gain financial freedom. I've moved all my BTC and USD into SolidCoins (not that much anyhow, only about $10,000) simply because I'm unsure about Bitcoin's future and don't want to be left with worthless coins in a few weeks. The sites I have generating BTC go straight into SolidCoins. If I lose it all it doesn't impact me financially as this is more like a hobby, especially given the insecurity surrounding Bitcoin and p2p currencies recently. I'm not investing any more into it besides what I generate from the sites themselves. So everyone who wants to mine and dump SC for relatively low amounts they are welcome to on the exchanges, I appreciate it. They are supporting SolidCoin by allowing me to continue giving funds to real businesses in SolidCoins. It's a nice circle. And I'm bad with money? Holy shit... Forget what I said. Give it to smoothie and that Mike guy. Actually, you should keep it. All of it. You get the bullshit award of the year. There's one and only one good reason that I can think of explaining why you aren't investing any more $ into it, and it's not the one you described, but we both know what it is. |
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100-more people with more coins is irrelevant to your profit. Bad argument.
Need is not the same as want. Bad argument.
If you couldn't care less, prove it and give them all to me sMXyNRxFVBBUANn2Zt51kb1AkDkY7B3VN8
That isn't all you did. False argument.
Why would I give SolidCoins to someone who is awful at handling money like yourself? I will hold SolidCoins to support people and businesses as time dictates, because unlike most people, I want a global currency that works. I've already tried supporting Bitcoin, it's not good enough. I'm not the only one with that opinion. Awful at handling money? Where did that come from? If you want a real reason, and if you truly don't care less, you should give them to me because 1.) I am ethical in the sense that I am a fair seller/buyer/participant in any economy who will not scam others and 2.) I devote my time (even for a living) to try to help people. I do social work. Giving money to me will allow me to spend less cumulative time trying to secure my financial future so I can spend more of the remaining time helping others. In 2 1/2 months I've made over 400% profit trading Bitcoins. And that's with $100 initial investment. The less money you have, the less money you make trading because of the fees even though the fee is a percentage. No global currency will ever be entirely just. It can't be. Global currencies displace peoples' values onto something they otherwise wouldn't care less about -- a piece of paper, or a number in a computer. Otherwise, these things would be meaningless to us. But when it can suddenly buy you shit (only because everyone agrees that it can buy shit), it becomes associated with your identity (class system?). Keep in mind, this applies to Bitcoin too. I'm not saying Bitcoin is perfect, or even that SolidCoin isn't better than Bitcoin. In fact, I actually think SolidCoin is better than Bitcoin. But Bitcoin right now is bigger. Too much competition before any one single currency thrives can make them all fail. Think of an ecosystem with too few resources (akin to a thin economy) where you have already-weak creatures trying to survive. They will all die. That is why I think people should focus and commit to Bitcoin to make it strong before any other digital currencies come along. If AOL, yahoo, google, bing, etc. all sprang up at once, all fighting with the other, it is likely that none would have thrived the way they did. They thrived because they built off the SUCCESS of the previous ones. This was demonstrated through increased simplicity. AOL was the most complex to use, and Google, the current king, is the least complex to use (seriously, check out the Google homepage and tell me that isn't genius in simplicity). I'm not saying it's impossible that a winner cant emerge from a small pack of infant currencies. But the successor to Bitcoin will have a much better chance if they wait for Bitcoin to become successful and prove that the free market can work. Otherwise, there will always be traditional fiat currency. If you donate a large portion of SC to me, I will even donate 50% of them to other SC users. I will tell you who I sent them to and they can vouch for me that they received them. Never thought I'd see the day we would have someone begging for solidcoins. LOL Ya send me a bunch of solidcoins so I can distribute them for you. Send all of them so I can make sure everyone gets a fair share. *wink* LAWL Mr Fair said he would only donate 50% of the coins Hunter gave him. haha. doesn't seem fair to keep half of them for you.. Send me a lot of your money, so I don't have to work as hard to have a secure financial future and then I can sit on my ass and help others... He said he couldn't care less. I, however, could care less, so I will take some. He said to give him a good reason. I gave him one. I'll at least help spread it around. That way, he can be virtuous and keep some money, I can be virtuous and keep some money, and you get some too. You can be 2nd on my list. |
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My scam prevention scheme: me - "I will not send first!" seller - "ok, how about half on sending the package?" me -"I will not send a single bitcoin first, but I will accept sending to trusted escrow" seller - "great, I trust (insert seller alter-ego here)!" me - "How about (insert list of people with more than a year on the forum, and still active)" Three things may happen here, in order of probability, top is higher: - Silence... soon after I see people crying scam on this seller's threads - "I know none of those people!", followed by what's described above - "Ok, I'll just send first, I guess I can trust you, please don't scam me" I have this down to a science  lol +1 |
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100-more people with more coins is irrelevant to your profit. Bad argument.
Need is not the same as want. Bad argument.
If you couldn't care less, prove it and give them all to me sMXyNRxFVBBUANn2Zt51kb1AkDkY7B3VN8
That isn't all you did. False argument.
Why would I give SolidCoins to someone who is awful at handling money like yourself? I will hold SolidCoins to support people and businesses as time dictates, because unlike most people, I want a global currency that works. I've already tried supporting Bitcoin, it's not good enough. I'm not the only one with that opinion. Awful at handling money? Where did that come from? If you want a real reason, and if you truly don't care less, you should give them to me because 1.) I am ethical in the sense that I am a fair seller/buyer/participant in any economy who will not scam others and 2.) I devote my time (even for a living) to try to help people. I do social work. Giving money to me will allow me to spend less cumulative time trying to secure my financial future so I can spend more of the remaining time helping others. In 2 1/2 months I've made over 400% profit trading Bitcoins. And that's with $100 initial investment. The less money you have, the less money you make trading because of the fees even though the fee is a percentage. No global currency will ever be entirely just. It can't be. Global currencies displace peoples' values onto something they otherwise wouldn't care less about -- a piece of paper, or a number in a computer. Otherwise, these things would be meaningless to us. But when it can suddenly buy you shit (only because everyone agrees that it can buy shit), it becomes associated with your identity (class system?). Keep in mind, this applies to Bitcoin too. I'm not saying Bitcoin is perfect, or even that SolidCoin isn't better than Bitcoin. In fact, I actually think SolidCoin is better than Bitcoin. But Bitcoin right now is bigger. Too much competition before any one single currency thrives can make them all fail. Think of an ecosystem with too few resources (akin to a thin economy) where you have already-weak creatures trying to survive. They will all die. That is why I think people should focus and commit to Bitcoin to make it strong before any other digital currencies come along. If AOL, yahoo, google, bing, etc. all sprang up at once, all fighting with the other, it is likely that none would have thrived the way they did. They thrived because they built off the SUCCESS of the previous ones. This was demonstrated through increased simplicity. AOL was the most complex to use, and Google, the current king, is the least complex to use (seriously, check out the Google homepage and tell me that isn't genius in simplicity). I'm not saying it's impossible that a winner cant emerge from a small pack of infant currencies. But the successor to Bitcoin will have a much better chance if they wait for Bitcoin to become successful and prove that the free market can work. Otherwise, there will always be traditional fiat currency. If you donate a large portion of SC to me, I will even donate 50% of them to other SC users. I will tell you who I sent them to and they can vouch for me that they received them. Never thought I'd see the day we would have someone begging for solidcoins. LOL Ya send me a bunch of solidcoins so I can distribute them for you. Send all of them so I can make sure everyone gets a fair share. *wink* LAWL You can be first on my list smoothie. You think I'm kidding? |
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100-more people with more coins is irrelevant to your profit. Bad argument.
Need is not the same as want. Bad argument.
If you couldn't care less, prove it and give them all to me sMXyNRxFVBBUANn2Zt51kb1AkDkY7B3VN8
That isn't all you did. False argument.
Why would I give SolidCoins to someone who is awful at handling money like yourself? I will hold SolidCoins to support people and businesses as time dictates, because unlike most people, I want a global currency that works. I've already tried supporting Bitcoin, it's not good enough. I'm not the only one with that opinion. Awful at handling money? Where did that come from? If you want a real reason, and if you truly don't care less, you should give them to me because 1.) I am ethical in the sense that I am a fair seller/buyer/participant in any economy who will not scam others and 2.) I devote my time (even for a living) to try to help people. I do social work. Giving money to me will allow me to spend less cumulative time trying to secure my financial future so I can spend more of the remaining time helping others. In 2 1/2 months I've made over 400% profit trading Bitcoins. And that's with $100 initial investment. The less money you have, the less money you make trading because of the fees even though the fee is a percentage. No global currency will ever be entirely just. It can't be. Global currencies displace peoples' values onto something they otherwise wouldn't care less about -- a piece of paper, or a number in a computer. Otherwise, these things would be meaningless to us. But when it can suddenly buy you shit (only because everyone agrees that it can buy shit), it becomes associated with your identity (class system?). Keep in mind, this applies to Bitcoin too. I'm not saying Bitcoin is perfect, or even that SolidCoin isn't better than Bitcoin. In fact, I actually think SolidCoin is better than Bitcoin. But Bitcoin right now is bigger. Too much competition before any one single currency thrives can make them all fail. Think of an ecosystem with too few resources (akin to a thin economy) where you have already-weak creatures trying to survive. They will all die. That is why I think people should focus and commit to Bitcoin to make it strong before any other digital currencies come along. If AOL, yahoo, google, bing, etc. all sprang up at once, all fighting with the other, it is likely that none would have thrived the way they did. They thrived because they built off the SUCCESS of the previous ones. This was demonstrated through increased simplicity. AOL was the most complex to use, and Google, the current king, is the least complex to use (seriously, check out the Google homepage and tell me that isn't genius in simplicity). I'm not saying it's impossible that a winner cant emerge from a small pack of infant currencies. But the successor to Bitcoin will have a much better chance if they wait for Bitcoin to become successful and prove that the free market can work. Otherwise, there will always be traditional fiat currency. If you donate a large portion of SC to me, I will even donate 50% of them to other SC users. I will tell you who I sent them to and they can vouch for me that they received them. |
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My bet is that from now on (at least until the market crashes or some dude decides to buy like 100,000 of them) mining for SC will be approximately as profitable as mining for BTC. Once profitability goes up a bit -- say, 120% -- people will sell by the hundreds to cash in on the BTC. Once profitability goes down a bit -- say, 80% -- G/Hash falls, the remaining ones buy up the coins, price goes back up.
The 5X profitability worked until the network hashrate caught up with everything. Now, G/Hash is low, but difficulty is still up. If somehow the G/Hash remained the same and the difficulty dropped while SC value remained at it's current level, then you'd see 3-5X profitability again.
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The price is dropping because Bitcoin is king, Solidcoin was made by a jealous dude (jealous of Satoshi) and wanted to make a quick buck. He did. So did a few other people.
Way to go free market. Nice idea...too bad the intention is way off.
As quickly as the price went up earlier this year there is the possibility that the price could drop just as fast. Bitcoin is not king. Bitcoin is the first of its kind to get to this point. I have my suspicions that bitcoin will not be the "king" in the end (i.e. 3 to 4 yaers from now). just think when myspace was popular...then came facebook. Bitcoin is king until some other digital currency dethrones it. Otherwise, Ross Perot is President, not Obama. "Will not be king?" Did you just go from saying it isn't king to it is king in two lines? Perception. You read it that way so it is that way to you. I was saying that it won't be "king" in the end, not implying it is "king" right now. Your definition of king and mine are different. Fair enough. |
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The price is dropping because Bitcoin is king, Solidcoin was made by a jealous dude (jealous of Satoshi) and wanted to make a quick buck. He did. So did a few other people.
Way to go free market. Nice idea...too bad the intention is way off.
As quickly as the price went up earlier this year there is the possibility that the price could drop just as fast. Bitcoin is not king. Bitcoin is the first of its kind to get to this point. I have my suspicions that bitcoin will not be the "king" in the end (i.e. 3 to 4 yaers from now). just think when myspace was popular...then came facebook. Bitcoin is king until some other digital currency dethrones it. Otherwise, Ross Perot is President, not Obama. "Will not be king?" Did you just go from saying it isn't king to it is king in two lines? |
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The price is dropping because Bitcoin is king, Solidcoin was made by a jealous dude (jealous of Satoshi) and wanted to make a quick buck. He did. So did a few other people.
Way to go free market. Nice idea...too bad the intention is way off.
Haha. Considering there are about 100 more people, minimum, with more SolidCoin's than me it's funny how people think I am the kingmaker here. I don't need money from SolidCoin, I already have businesses and sell software, so I couldn't care less. It's also why I'm donating a fair amount of my personal wallet to people. All I did was make a fairer playground for people to come and play on. Many of the people playing there love it. Some don't.... not yet anyhow. 100-more people with more coins is irrelevant to your profit. Bad argument. Need is not the same as want. Bad argument. If you couldn't care less, prove it and give them all to me sMXyNRxFVBBUANn2Zt51kb1AkDkY7B3VN8 That isn't all you did. False argument. |
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Read the subject heading. These should be the minimum guidelines for anybody selling anything on here. Look through their posts as well. Do they actually voice anything thought-provoking or contribute anything to the community? Or are they all marketplace posts? Notice how virtually any graphics card or other electronics product/gadget sold on here is by some dude with under 50 posts, and if you check, most of their posts are in the marketplace section. Or, make the seller ship first, and only send BTC when you receive your product. This really isn't that hard.
If they have positive rep, check to see who gave them the positive rep. Was the account linked to the pos. rep post created in the same time frame? Are their post counts similar? Are the majority of their posts also in the marketplace section?
Does the seller refuse escrow? Does the seller come up with weird bullshit reasons for why he can't provide real proof of something? ThyDude came up with some bullshit "I'm in legal trouble and I don't want my handwriting posted anywhere online cause it could get me in more trouble." HELLO?!?!?!?!?!!?! Apparently, Dalambchops had a positive transaction with this guy. A good scammer will do some legit transactions, build rep, and hit the big scams (notice how ThyDude sold like everything in his goddamn house?).
Here's a novel idea. Ask for a phone number. Call them. Talk with them. Bitcoin isn't completely anonymous anyway, and it's far less anonymous on a forum where you are communicating with each other on a daily basis. Honest buyer? Honest seller? Then what's the big deal with anonymity? In my opinion, if you want to remain anonymous, I don't trust you anyway.
I've had 2 buyers buy from me. I could have just as easily scammed them too (obviously, I didn't). If they would have said, "Hey, do you think I could call you and we could talk about this?" I'd be like, "Why yes! I understand your concern, and I am concerned for the same reasons." This doesn't mean you need to show your driver's license or anything ridiculous. But honestly, if you get scammed on here, you did it to yourself. No one forced you to send your BTC. You chose. Besides, what would even a cruel-intentioned person do with your phone number? Text you? Text you twice? Text you thrice?
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Did you basically copy the solidcoin code to fix yours ? Wow :O.
Yup that's how the pros do it!  Satoshi...Nasakioto...He stole heritage too. Thomas? Really? THOMAS Nasakioto? |
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I watched that happening a few hours ago. it looked like a bot trading with itself or with another bot. it managed to shift the price upwards a bit then there was a small up turn followed by a dump. not sure if that was all orchestrated or someone took advantage of the slight lift. it was very odd anyway.
Seems like a dumb idea with the transaction fees? Wouldn't they lose $ on every single one of those? |
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Can I bum a cig? My Ixcoins are worthless
Actually I don't have any Ixcoins. Same thing.
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The price is dropping because Bitcoin is king, Solidcoin was made by a jealous dude (jealous of Satoshi) and wanted to make a quick buck. He did. So did a few other people.
Way to go free market. Nice idea...too bad the intention is way off.
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a skilled player will win in the long run for sure
Feel free to quantify your "for sure" with actual data, showing that there are "skilled" traders that can outperform chance. The point is that no one has been able to show that. Chance is a BS word. "Derrr it was chance I tell ya!" "Really? Chance caused it?" |
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Just got back from work. Can anyone explain to me why that 1 1/2 hour long section of Mt. Gox Live looks like a fucking comb? /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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And now it's less profitable. Solidcoin sucks.
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I call bullshit on seizure. My opinion.
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it's fun and novel (this is important)
It's fun... for us geeks and nerds. The vast bulk of the population just doesn't care, and may never care. Bitcoin is a nifty concept but whenever I tried to seriously explain it to anyone they have two comments: "so, why do these things have any value?" and "sounds like a pyramid scam". it's deflationary (also extremely important)
Whoever created bitcoin (Nakamoto, or whoever uses that alias) created a great novel commodity, but not a viable currency. People by definition are reluctant to spend a currency that increases in value the longer you hold it. Assuming its value versus other currencies follows bitcoin's natural deflationary curve, why spend it if I can buy more stuff with it tomorrow than today? and as such it's a worthwhile investment (also a low-risk investment if you know what you're dong).
Bitcoin matches all the criteria of a high risk investment. Small and thin market, easily swayed 20%+ in a day by one participant or event, highly volatile, formed an exponential growth bubble that popped, off 70% from its highs, has a well known attack vector that allows anyone with large resources to hijack the entire chain. Thankfully, geeks and nerds can also come up with creative solutions for simplicity (ever look at Google as a model for taking something as complex as the internet and making it extremely easy to navigate?) And yes, Bitcoin is a pyramid scam. Much like any other fiat currency. It is already a viable currency. Ever buy/sell something for Bitcoins? I have. The deflationary aspect of Bitcoin in the long-term is balanced by the inflationary aspect in the short-term. We are witnessing that inflation now, and that makes the currency worthy of spending. Buy BTC low, when the value increases, buy something. You are then, in effect buying the product at a large discount (those people who bought at $5 and then watched as the price jumped to $10 and beyond could easily say 'look! I was able to take the $500 I had a few days ago and buy $1,000 worth of goods from it!" In the short-term, spending Bitcoins ultimately helps their long-term investment as it helps to build the Bitcoin economy. The impact of early adopters on the markets will fizzle as the economy grows and as more people use Bitcoins. That's why you buy stuff with them today. Ever day-trade? Day trading is low-risk. If I had 10 grand (or more) to play with worry of my funds suddenly be lost due to a hack or whatever else, you better believe I'd do it in a heartbeat. The lack of insurance for my funds on exchanges is the only reason I haven't actually done this already. That's how confident I am in Bitcoin investment. A bull in a thin market takes on far less risk than a bear. |
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