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4401  Economy / Goods / Re: 1 BTC - Random Cut Gemstones on: August 09, 2011, 09:41:15 AM
pics?
and what about shipping?

I will take pictures tomorrow if you are interested.  I do not own a digital camera and will need to borrow one from a relative.

Shipping to US only (preferably) and will be free for the 10 BTC offer.

Add .2 BTC for the 1 BTC offer.
Add .1 BTC for the 2 BTC offer.

So,

3 for 1.2 BTC shipping included.
8 for 2.1 BTC shipping included.
50 for 10 BTC with guaranteed inclusions, shipping included.


3 for 1 BTC  U.S. shipping included, 1.2 BTC International
8 for 2 BTC U.S. shipping included, 2.2 BTC International
50 for 9 BTC with guaranteed inclusions, shipping free everywhere.

Supplies limited  Grin

Edit:  If you are outside the U.S., let me know and I'll think more seriously about international shipping.
Edit 2:  Taking pictures "tomorrow" really means "today," but I haven't slept yet, so it seems like tomorrow to me  Cheesy
4402  Economy / Goods / 1 BTC - Random Cut Gemstones [SOLD] on: August 09, 2011, 09:24:10 AM
Hello.

I thought this might be a fun and interesting offer.  For 1 BTC, I will send you a random assortment of 3 cut gemstones in a plastic, padded gemstone container.  2 BTC gets you 8.  I do NOT know what many of the gemstones are.  But, I also have a few other gemstones the identify of which I DO know.  If I receive two or more offers, I can guarantee that I will include at least one of the following in someone's shipment - Chrome Diopside, Peridot, Ruby, and Emerald.  I am not a gemstone expert, so the others you receive may be valuable and I wouldn't even know it.

10 9 BTC gets you 50 including a guaranteed pink sapphire, a guaranteed beautiful forest green chrome diopside, and a pair of identical and exquisitely-cut peridot gems that would make fantastic earrings for a lady friend.

Who's interested?


Edit:  Here are some sample pictures.




4403  Economy / Goods / Re: Buying whatever you'll give me for 1.3 bitcoins. Literally fucking anything. on: August 09, 2011, 08:47:04 AM
3 (random) cut gemstones from a parcel I bought a while ago.  Each gemstone is under .5 carats (I think), but I have absolutely no idea what they are.  They literally could be anything since the parcel itself was taken randomly from an even larger parcel that contained a random assortment of cut gemstones.  I only kept one stone from the parcel aside for myself because a friend recognized it as pink sapphire.  Who knows, maybe I'd be giving up something valuable.
4404  Economy / Goods / Re: Toliet paper 1 btc 6 rolls on: August 08, 2011, 08:28:02 AM
If it's Bitcoin toilet paper....I'll consider it.
4405  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Resting Your Video Card on: August 08, 2011, 08:25:18 AM
Please explain how the electrons from the freezer take heat from the room while the electrons on a spaceheater heat up the room.

That's good thinking man, you one of them few openminded individuals that keep the world from going crusty! Ignore all them other
so called experts, they just parroting them nonsense that got jammed into their heads from the Man.

You're right in that a spaceheater is pretty much an inverse freezer. Both take energy from an external source to function. But where as the
freezer transfers entropy out of the room, a heater will transfer entropy into the room. Both convert energy doing this, so all conservation principles
are intact. It is the heating fins on a freezer that achieve this inversion and such fins do warm up, but in general more cool remains
in the room.

That maths behind this is solid. Sorry to all you so called a/c experts, but your knowledge is bunk. Stop poncing around like you know shit,
if you can't prove it from first principles, then keep your cake hole closed!

Ohhhhhh I get it now!  I didn't check me maths!
4406  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Resting Your Video Card on: August 08, 2011, 04:23:25 AM
Essentially
heat is removed from the server room via the electricity supply cable.
You're not even trying now. There's a saying in my country. If one person tells you you're stupid, they might be crazy. If two people say you're stupid, it might be their opinion. But hey, if EVERYONE tells you you are stupid, you should really look into it.

Btw, I think your advices are stupid, and you are intellectually incapable of understanding thermodynamics. Do us a service and "rest" your video card forever and don't post crap on this forum.

Look man, this was a beautiful thread before you and your misinformed brutes came along and made ugly. Y'all need
to learn to be more polite and shit.

With regards to the fridge, you got to understand that it ain't a closed system. There's energy being supplied by the
the power station outside right? That energy lost by cooling the fridge down, entropy is transferred out of the room by
the electrons. Seeing as y'all can't provide no robust refutation other than point to wikipedia etc I think we gonna
have to agree to disagree up in here.

Hey but no hard feelings. I'd like to 0ffer another great tip:
8 ) keep your machine clean inside, dust and cobwebs will reduce heat extraction efficency




Entropy transferred out of the room?  WTF does that mean?  The room is a preservative and the rest of the world begins to grow mold?

Maybe you meant energy transferred out of the room.  But my room has fucking walls.  What does your room have?  Doilies?

And where does the heat from the food go?  Does it stay inside the fridge?  Maybe the cool inside the fridge is so dense that the heat just kind of creeps around it like a psycho ex-girlfriend.
4407  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Resting Your Video Card on: August 07, 2011, 11:58:16 PM
This thread wins Lowest Content Value by far.

Oh, I'm sure we can achieve lower.
4408  Other / Meta / Re: Maybe I'll have better luck in Meta on: August 07, 2011, 11:17:20 PM
What about a Bitcoin chatroom with different subcategories for those who feel like voicing their opinions?  It may help to alleviate the volume of such opinions on the forum itself.

"The Forum" is done.

People using these forums at this point are just old members for the most part until the next update in the SERPs.   Bitcoin.org does not wish for it's users to voice their opinions in the same place most development takes place.   Makes complete sense, separate the users from the makers so no one gets what they want.

These chat options are still linked from the official site though:
Quote
Join the project's lively IRC channels on the FreeNode network or use the FreeNode Web IRC.
#bitcoin (General Bitcoin-related)
#bitcoin-dev (Development and technical)
#bitcoin-otc-foyer (Over The Counter exchange)
#bitcoin-market (Live quotes from markets)
#bitcoin-mining (GPU mining related)
Guess not enough people used them or knew about them.

I hadn't a clue.
4409  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Resting Your Video Card on: August 07, 2011, 11:10:58 PM


It's for the same reason you'd rather buy a car with 150,000 miles that's used only for long-distance highway driving than buying a car with 75,000 miles that's only used for city driving with lots of stops and starts.  When fast-moving parts constantly adjust speed and temperature, things move out of place and materials suffer weaknesses due to frequent changes in temperature.

What is this gibberish? This analogy makes no sense! A PC is nothing like a car, it doesn't even look like one! Its like
comparing chalk and cheese.

Lol.  I gave you the context of the analogy -- moving parts and temperature, not appearance.  A PC is like a car in that it has moving parts and temperature variation.  Chalk and cheese don't have moving parts and melted cheese is just awesome.
4410  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTB] Ipad on: August 07, 2011, 11:06:14 PM
Anybody got an Ipad for sale they're trying to get rid of?  I'm looking to buy around 18-22 BTC.  Reputable vendors only.

So 1st gen right? Not the new one correct? I might have an ipad 2 soon.

1st gen, thinking around 17-18 BTC for the 16 gb and 22ish for the 64gb.
4411  Other / Meta / Re: Maybe I'll have better luck in Meta on: August 07, 2011, 11:00:11 PM
What about a Bitcoin chatroom with different subcategories for those who feel like voicing their opinions?  It may help to alleviate the volume of such opinions on the forum itself.
4412  Economy / Goods / [WTB] Ipad on: August 07, 2011, 06:44:51 PM
Anybody got an Ipad for sale they're trying to get rid of?  I'm looking to buy around 18-22 BTC.  Reputable vendors only.
4413  Other / Meta / Re: Maybe I'll have better luck in Meta on: August 07, 2011, 05:20:15 PM
The same could be applied to what you just said.  Just because a thread discusses "philosophical shortcomings of Bitcoin" does not mean that the argument is the same.  If you'd research the argument I made, I can guarantee that you wouldn't find another one like it.
I wasn't talking about you personally, but tried to explain why the community responds as it does.

I have no opinion on whether you are a troll or not as I don't follow stuff like that. I am not interested in philosophical debate at all, I think what this community needs is more practical people that build stuff, not debate.



Well, to some extent I agree.  My most recent posts have been focused on the need for Bitcoin infrastructure growth.  But, at the same time, I think intelligent debate is important.  Less debate leads to less critical thinking and questioning about Bitcoin and Bitcoin-related sites.  If newbies get shut down when they try to bring up legitimate points (the number of times these points have been discussed is irrelevant to whether or not these points are valid) then they are more likely to blindly accept generalized ideas about Bitcoin like, "Bitcoin is just better!  So...that means safer!"  And that can lead to more people getting scammed.  

How many people were called trolls because they kept bringing up security-related issues post-Mt. Gox?  How many people were screamed at because they happened to start another MyBitcoin thread?  There are literally thousands of threads on this forum and to expect that every individual will know that there is a specific thread dedicated to a particular issue is ludicrous.  You're going to be hearing about the Mt. Gox crash and the MyBitcoin debacle years from now from newbies who continue to join.  And then what?  Are the completely-awesome elite members going to continue to berate these people from brining up legitimate concerns?

And, more generally, debate about Bitcoin as a currency in general is healthy.  You aren't interested in it because that is not your interest.  Bitcoin is surrounded by complex issues and to think that anybody on here has the whole damn thing figured out is nuts.  In my opinion, for example, Bitcoin is clearly a get-rich-quick scheme for Satoshi.  That much is obvious.  Whether or not his motives also encompassed something virtuous and whether or not Bitcoin is a good thing independent of his motives is something entirely different.  

For example, doesn't Bitcoin inherently cater to the already-wealthy and marginalize the poor even further were it to become widely adopted?  In my opinion, yes.  OK, so, that is now a point of debate, and it's a point relevant to site construction.  How do we build sites that take into account as many of these philosophical issues as possible and implement means to address them?  Debate simply helps to identify areas of general concern, and intelligent merchants will recognize these concerns and implement ways to help alleviate these concerns in their site construction.  The more citizens use Bitcoin, the more concerns there will be, and vendors will need to keep listening if they want to increase their customer base.
4414  Other / Meta / Re: Maybe I'll have better luck in Meta on: August 07, 2011, 09:35:23 AM
I can see why you would be slammed as a troll: That should have been posted in the Newbie forum, because the "philosophical shortcomings of Bitcoin as a currency of the future" have been discussed to death already.
+1

The chance that you get labeled as a troll is much smaller if you do a little research first, as to what has already been discussed. If you start the same discussions that 100 people have started before you, and which are simply undecided (really only the future can tell), people might call you a troll. Troll because you essentially waste time and add nothing new. Also, you are contributing to the "short term memory loss" problem this forum has.



The same could be applied to what you just said.  Just because a thread discusses "philosophical shortcomings of Bitcoin" does not mean that the argument is the same.  If you'd research the argument I made, I can guarantee that you wouldn't find another one like it.
4415  Other / Meta / Re: Maybe I'll have better luck in Meta on: August 07, 2011, 06:48:00 AM
Edit 2:  New users having concerns about the theoretical workings of Bitcoin?  Surprising?  You don't say...  If Bitcoin becomes widely accepted, expect a million and one similar threads.  
That's what the Newbie forum is for. It's the only forum where you won't be insulted by longtime members for posting a common thread. It's really sad that some people don't realize that, and think that their thread should be posted on the main forum instead.

It's equally sad that hundreds of posts and 2 years involvement in a brand new currency gives people a monopoly on truth and understanding.  And this get's back to the whole idea of general acceptance...I see people with 1000+ posts making idiot assertions all the time.

Edit:  Actually, I doublechecked.  It was actually my 4th post and I made it in the Newbies section.
4416  Other / Meta / Re: Maybe I'll have better luck in Meta on: August 07, 2011, 06:26:50 AM
After I became jr. member, I posted a serious thread about the philosophical shortcomings of Bitcoin as a currency of the future.  I was slammed with "troll" claims.
I can see why you would be slammed as a troll: That should have been posted in the Newbie forum, because the "philosophical shortcomings of Bitcoin as a currency of the future" have been discussed to death already.

It's not my fault that people don't get that Bitcoin isn't perfect.  There's just a direct correlation with how perfect something is and how invested in it you are.

Edit:  I actually like Bitcoin.  I even stated in that same thread that I thought it was better than all traditional currencies to date.

Edit 2:  New users having concerns about the theoretical workings of Bitcoin?  Surprising?  You don't say...  If Bitcoin becomes widely accepted, expect a million and one similar threads. 
4417  Other / Meta / Re: Maybe I'll have better luck in Meta on: August 07, 2011, 06:25:02 AM
Should add the term Bro to your rant as well. Hate "bro" as much as troll. People are going to start using the term "mint" as much as bro and troll. Someone needs to make an addon to blank out words you don't want to see.

This was the original thread.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34921.0  Check out the response by NothinG.  I almost threw up from ignorance.  His IQ test came back negative.
4418  Other / Meta / Re: Maybe I'll have better luck in Meta on: August 07, 2011, 06:20:37 AM
There has been an ongoing attack against this community for quite a while now. Everyone is on alert...

People gotta wise up.  This is a new currency.  It ain't fuckin' Pringles.
4419  Other / Meta / Maybe I'll have better luck in Meta on: August 07, 2011, 06:16:02 AM
I posted something similar in off-topic.  I seriously mean what I'm about to say, and I hope you listen.

STOP using the word "troll."  It's used entirely too often, it's thoughtless, it's unoriginal, it's a bandwagaon word, and it's used too often as a reply to people that have legitimate concerns about the current state of Bitcoin.  Only the super-nerdy use 'troll.'  Nobody on the street knows what this means except as a reference to bridge-dwelling creatures.  This is part of the reason the average citizen wants nothing to do with bitcoin.  It ties into Bitcoin's stigma as being a currency only used and understood by the super-techie and ultra-geeky.

This forum acts as a main hub for Bitcoin community users.  If you want Bitcoin to become more accessible to the average person, the community needs to become more accessible as well, not just an understanding of the Bitcoin software.

After I became jr. member, I posted a serious thread about the philosophical shortcomings of Bitcoin as a currency of the future.  I was slammed with "troll" claims.  A friend of mine read through the forums and because of that he wants nothing to do with Bitcoin.  His reasoning?  He thought everyone on here was a bunch of whiny teenagers and he would never want to do business with any one of you.  He wondered why you weren't all off playing Starcraft and jacking off to Princess Leia.

It seems more and more posts are filled with "troll" cries and, ironically, it seems that more and more often the "troll" is right.  Honestly, how many people were called trolls for predicting a rapid BTC price drop? 

Do you see the analysts on CNBC screaming "TROLL!  TROLL!  DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!" while discussing the NYSE?  No.  Why?  They understand what it takes to be successful in life, and being a bunch of name-calling children doesn't fit the bill.

Rant ended.
4420  Other / Off-topic / Re: The word "Troll" on: August 07, 2011, 05:58:00 AM
Too Long; Didn't Read.

Basicly people say that to point someone wrote way more than they are willing to read, or as an indication that a summary of the preceding wall of text follows.

Are you guys seriously this dense?  This is part of the reason that the average citizen wants absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin.
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