How much has one deCLOUDs token value for now. I investeed 0.1BTC and have only 245 deClouds in my ICO wallet!?
Same question here: Invested 0.2BTC (including Bonus) and it says Declouds Credited 409.60. How is this calculated? Thank You  The math does not add up. 1btc should be roughly 700k declouds at the moment. Dev needs to fix this issue. I don't see anything in the OP indicating the price of the tokens, or did I just miss it? I did invest some BTC - just a small amount initially - and it does look very strange to get so few tokens for the amount of BTC invested. please login to your account now and you will see the correct amount. Can someone please confirm that balances are correct now? I will be depositing soon. Thanks. Your balance is correct.Right now 1 btc = 2048 declouds. That means 0.2 btc = 409 declouds 49k sats each declouds? You serious? |
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No more Stratis tokens on TVE? I haven't seen any for the past couple of days.
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How much has one deCLOUDs token value for now. I investeed 0.1BTC and have only 245 deClouds in my ICO wallet!?
Same question here: Invested 0.2BTC (including Bonus) and it says Declouds Credited 409.60. How is this calculated? Thank You The math does not add up. 1btc should be roughly 700k declouds at the moment. Dev needs to fix this issue. I don't see anything in the OP indicating the price of the tokens, or did I just miss it? I did invest some BTC - just a small amount initially - and it does look very strange to get so few tokens for the amount of BTC invested. please login to your account now and you will see the correct amount. Can someone please confirm that balances are correct now? I will be depositing soon. Thanks. |
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Maybe I missed it but how is the Escrow arranged?
From the OP: Escrow service for DECLOUDS ICO provided by: Martin Mueller, e-cash magazine co-founder. Petros Anagnostou, coinbit founder. It was a 2 of 3 multisig wallet from Electrum used. The funds will be released upon successful launch of DECLOUDS network. |
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How much has one deCLOUDs token value for now. I investeed 0.1BTC and have only 245 deClouds in my ICO wallet!?
Same question here: Invested 0.2BTC (including Bonus) and it says Declouds Credited 409.60. How is this calculated? Thank You The math does not add up. 1btc should be roughly 700k declouds at the moment. Dev needs to fix this issue. |
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Hi Devs. Any updates on escrow?
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Awesome new website. Here is the Team for whoever is interested to know more!  Great hierarchy. Looks like WAVES will be cornering the Chinese market. Smart move! |
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A response from Dev to clear of things would be greatly appreciated.... Thanks dev for clearing that up. Been hearing similar stories about icocountdown. Anyways, any updates on escrow? |
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easy, just don't invest this project. I trust icocountdown, and i also think op account was bought or compromised,  and OP he looks bad, not like a legit ico, just a bad one like opair. Do you have proof the account was purchased? Dev's name is Stas Nikolaev and his account is Niktitan132, seems legit to me. I have heard some things about icocountdown demanding btc from devs to list their coin on his site. I don't know, just waiting for dev to respond. |
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Yeah this actually looks really good, great improvement. Yeah it does. Looking forward to more info on Crowdstarter. Might be a good time for me to buy more Waves. |
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I will speak as the investor of this project that I am. As several users have noted above there are points that would have been better if they were different but as he said wasserman99 everything was clarified and public before the ICO, which there is no complaint possible. That was the Opair proposal and I decided to invest equally like others, even knowing these points because I was attracted by the proposed project. I'm glad to invest here and I'm sure this project will go far. We are already adults and before investing our own money we must do due diligence about that points. So now please stop with the drama. If you want to invest, do it, or not it's your own decision.
Please take a look at the ICO platform, it is the most transparent i saw in this forum. You can see at any time all statistics, including your balance and price per coin, which is updated as more people invest. Everything run smoothly. For suspicious people, make yourselves an account on the platform and try it on your own. That's a great test of experience and knowledge of this team. If the final release has much quality as the platform it will be a success. If they could do that without money, with the money raise from the ICO the sky is the limit.
If you do not like the rules that they put, dont invest, END. SIMPLY LIKE THAT! but i do not want that investment i ve made in this project, which was big, it is affected by fools users who can not read a few simple rules. Each is responsible for where you decide to invest and, before doing so, they must perform due diligence, which is in this case they didnt. NOOBS!
I do not understand what the obsession with seeing the face of Frank. Even Frank could be anyone, that does not interest me. I just want the platform to be successful. I never knew or will know who is Nakamoto and I do not care.
One suggestion, for the best for the project, why not create a proper forum in which to build a community and close this thread? It is unbearable to come here and always read the same five users complaining about what was already explained again and again. But like Go away and leave current investors in peace.
I appreciate that the devs have changed his mind and offer escrow from now. That will help a lot. So far, currently Opair has the support of Lutpin and SebastianJu. Two respected members who are against the scammers. Its time to let this team work and with time we decide our conclusions.
In short, I am more affected by the actions of these fools users than the dev, since neither has completed the ICO, which we can not know if they will achieve fulfill everything they have promised.
Do not worry about the trolls, fudders gonna FUD!
Good health for this project.
lol at your statement that you keep on posting about. You consider that a platform? Wow, you deposit btc and it shows how many Opair you get and the price. You've never seen this before. hahahaha. |
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niktitan132. Project looks good. Just a couple questions. Are you Stas Nikolaev? If so, why didn't you speak in your youtube promo video instead of having a voice over? That's it, good luck with the project.
Yes, I'm. The presentation planned as multilingual with further translation into other languages Thank you. Makes total sense now.  |
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so radio/video show, new website and full nodes. these 3 should be ready by this week.
the website however, they did say if everything goes well. so we should be expecting AT LEAST 2 things this week.
also, i noticed there translations for many languages. that's quite a lot. but i wonder if its even reaching out to the respective markets, as its suppose to. otherwise it defeats the purpose of translating them.
whats the Slack channel for WAVES btw?
Just how long you guys going to keep following the carrot? Its about time to say, fuck your carrot and find another coin to treat you much better! Think of it this way. Which hurts more? Losing your some money on your investment or later finding out you could of been rich? Unless waves drops to zero, which I highly doubt. I'm still in the game. I don't want to be the guy who didn't join the company lottery pool and they end up winning and retiring while you're still stuck at work by yourself. The good thing is, maybe you'll get a promotion since there's no one left. lol |
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ICO Update - Day Six
Members: 224
Number of investments: 111
Amount invested: 68.83 BTC
Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.
Instead of addressing people's concerns about escrow and why Frank hasn't posted since his initial post. You keep posting about the time remaining for the bonus. The bonus doesn't mean crap if your project ends up being a scam or a failure. You can give a 100% bonus and without clearing up things, your ICO funding will still be minimal. The scammer didnt even contact the escrow he is just trying to scam more That's what it seems like. |
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ICO Update - Day Six
Members: 224
Number of investments: 111
Amount invested: 68.83 BTC
Actual bonus (until August 3): - Users participating in the campaign the first week (but not the first two days) will receive 20% bonus.
Instead of addressing people's concerns about escrow and why Frank hasn't posted since his initial post. You keep posting about the time remaining for the bonus. The bonus doesn't mean crap if your project ends up being a scam or a failure. You can give a 100% bonus and without clearing up things, your ICO funding will still be minimal. |
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https://www.opair.co/stats/Who is this fucking retarded just invested 7.5 btc on 1st of August? lmao, this guy didn't hear our warning, must be a fool, sorry for your potential losses, without any real personal info. Even OP refused the radio talk, do you know what does that hint? Means OP even doesn't wanna spend a little money to hire 2 people to scam us, buy 2 people make a fake interview may cost only 100 usd, but he doesn't wanna spend this money. SHADY AND PATHETIC SCAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It is difficult to make an interview video now if he just took 2 random pictures for Frank and Hao. The video has to be the same 2 people or else it wouldn't work. |
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niktitan132. Project looks good. Just a couple questions. Are you Stas Nikolaev? If so, why didn't you speak in your youtube promo video instead of having a voice over? That's it, good luck with the project.
Upping this post for the dev. |
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Is escrow confirmed or still in the works?
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this project not even started but dev is no where to find, just hope that they will proceed on this
i seen that there's already members who invested for this it will be a big lost for those who
trust the project.
PLEASE EVERYONE, READ THIS!I dont know what do you. There is a group of people who complain about things that were already clear before the ICO. We will not change our rules. We are no more bad (or good) for using or not escrow. But to show what we can do, we need time. We are still in the ICO phase. We are overwhelmed. Although If I answer them they will continue writing lies. The project are being killing by this campaign. The worst thing is that some users who do not know our project, they think we are a scam because those users say it. It is a vicious circle. The main point of the matter is that some users want to use escrow and want a video session. - About the video, if Hao and Frank are exposed it (with videos, etc) is now very likely that also these users start a campaign against them (without any reasons) and affect their personal work, because as we will not get our goals if they continue with the campaign against us, so they will going to follow his normal lives in those jobs and not working full time on Opair. With the money raised until now we will be able to work only two months at most. Our project is in ethereum or lisk scale for things that we want to do (look our key features, we present things nobody had done until now), so we need an adequate amount, we can’t do it all that features without funds. Do you understand? Thus, we are now looking at what is best for everyone.
- About the escrow, we believe that using an escrow adds nothing to our proposal. We are going to 100% with Opair, giving our identities from the beginning, because we trust in what we do. And we risk that the escrow, which is a person we do not know, decide not to release the funds. You have to keep in mind, there were many large projects that did not use escrow (eth-lisk) given the legitimacy of its creators. On the other hand, there are many people here in the forum using fake escrow, as you well know. In short, that led us to make this decision
This campaign againt us is totally unfair for us and for the investors. It seems that these guys want me to go to believe that they were right. It's sick. But we will show theirs the opposite. I'll stay here and I'm not going nowhere as they say. Regards You are saying two things at the same time... 1st is that Frank and Hao will not work full time in this project 2nd they are busy in their personal work How the hell you meant to have a working project if both of them are busy in their jobs, instead of opair.... And yes, if they do work, there is no harm in an interview.... on weekend, when they are free.... 1. Yes, our plan is that both of them working full time afther the ICO ends, but we need funds to do that. 2. Its right, currently they have another fulltime jobs to care. Wait. You're saying they will quit their full time jobs (with benefits) at Siemens and IBM to work on Opair? Hmm.. that is hard to believe. |
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