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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: May 12, 2020, 07:26:33 AM
It's 10 hours (1330 EST) until Decred's Foundations hour at ConsensusDistributed kicks off!

Sign up at this link to watch the program live and participate in Q&A.

https://next.brella.io/events/consensusdistributed/schedule/118434

22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: May 12, 2020, 06:57:00 AM
Np
The devs don't like bitcointalk and they also left slack because old messages are automatically deleted in a short time.

The chosen app for chat was matrix

click on “advanced” to register in decred matrix https://chat.decred.org/#/register

For other Decred communities see https://decred.org/community/
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: May 11, 2020, 09:12:13 PM
How is the development coming along?
The thread is silent and I only see one commit in github since the current release from last year



https://medium.com/decred/decred-journal-april-2020-8ddca048dc67





March: https://medium.com/decred/decred-journal-march-2020-46a3df734ec5
February: https://medium.com/decred/decred-journal-february-2020-8ff1eac92305
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: May 01, 2020, 07:31:40 PM
Tomorrow 05/02, the first bitconf Live Edition will be held.
Brazilian cryptocurrency event in which Decred will be sponsor.

Starts at 04:00 PM UTC
Register for free at www.bitconf.com.br

We will have 2 talks by BR members of our community.

At 4:00 PM UTC Edilson Osorio Jr, creator and CEO of www.originalmy.com will speak about "Blockchain and the impact during the Pandemic". It will also show a new app that uses Decred's blockchain so that doctors can prescribe controlled drugs through their mobiles, without physical contact with the patient.

At 8:00 PM UTC João "Girino" Ferreira will talk about "Decentralization and Governance". Also about DEX, atomic swaps and politeia.





EDIT:

Edilson Osorio Jr talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjQcT_nMXBs
João "girino" Ferreira talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Fq9VNOhlk
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: March 12, 2020, 08:14:22 PM
Decred Journal February 2020

https://medium.com/decred/decred-journal-february-2020-8ff1eac92305


26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: March 06, 2020, 11:40:40 AM
www.decred.org has been revamped:

    • New visual aesthetic

    • New explainer video

    • New subpages to detail Decred’s:

        ◦ History

        ◦ Security

        ◦ Adaptability

        ◦ Sustainability
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: February 11, 2020, 01:09:12 PM




https://medium.com/decred/decred-journal-january-2020-616d919784ff
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: February 06, 2020, 07:57:53 PM



On Saturday, February 8th, the Decred blockchain will have been adding blocks for 4 years. #DecredGlobalMeetups are taking place across the world in at least twenty different cities across five continents. The heartbeat of the community and its thriving ecosystem has never been stronger, as Decred continues its long-term approach to re-building the financial system in a fairer way.

The robust and decentralized community of OG cypherpunks and intellectuals embody the core principles of the project and represent its greatest strength. They have built hardware, started stakepools, and represented Decred at events. They have staked their coins in exchange for direct sovereignty over Decred, and made and commented on Politeia proposals and voted at an unprecedented rate. They have visually, emotionally and rationally defined what it means to be one of us.

Year markers are a time to reflect, cognizant of the hardening force of the Lindy effect. Bootstrapped by Company 0 and two pseudonymous entities, Decred approaches it’s fourth birthday with a robust ecosystem of blockchain economics. The supply side is strong, and the contractor system supports a vibrant community of diverse contributors to sustainably build, research, document and communicate the project. The decentralization is such that Company 0 now makes up a minority of developers working on Decred.

While other projects launched ICOs, competed to see who had a bigger white paper, and talked about how their project would revolutionize X, Y, or Z, Decred kept its head down and coded. At a total cost of 7M USD, here is a list of some of the deliverables it has generated.


- Tools for atomic swaps
https://github.com/decred/atomicswap

- Wallet with graphical user interface (GUI)
https://github.com/decred/decrediton

- Changed consensus rules repeatedly per the stakeholder’s direction
https://voting.decred.org/

- Project management system, Politeia
https://github.com/decred/politeia

- Decentralizing control of the Treasury https://proposals.decred.org/proposals/c96290a2478d0a1916284438ea2c59a1215fe768a87648d04d45f6b7ecb82c3f

- Experimented and iterated community resource allocation
https://proposals.decred.org/

- Built Contractor Management System (CMS) to govern contributors
https://cms.decred.org/

- Privacy system ensures auditability of the blockchain
https://blog.decred.org/2019/08/28/Iterating-Privacy/

- Approved, specified and building alpha decentralized exchange (DEX)
https://github.com/decred/dcrdex

- Mobile app for Android https://github.com/decred/dcrandroid and iOS
https://github.com/raedahgroup/dcrios

- Simple Payment Verification (SPV)
https://docs.decred.org/wallets/spv/

- Lightning Network
https://github.com/decred/dcrlnd


The infrastructure being put into place is built for the long horizon. These are the foundations that will enable the Decred community to grow, make decisions, and operate on the multi-decade horizon to become a superior store of value, medium of exchange, and serious alternative to Bitcoin. With the evolution of features, including privacy, a decentralized exchange, and Lightning Network, the future of Decred’s ecosystem becomes complete. That is, until the community decides they should be augmented, for which there is a formal process for doing so. These systems are, critically, strongly aligned with project values:


- Free and open source software

- Free speech and consideration

- Multi-stakeholder inclusivity

- Incremental privacy and security

- Fixed finite supply

- Universal fungibility


These values and foundations drive the community and ensure sustainable community growth. The reasons to Iterate Bitcoin persist, and they continue to be proven with the passage of time. The cause has attracted a talented community of developers and contributors. Decred is secure, adaptable, and sustainable, and internal development and external forces will make 2020 a great year to be one of us.

by Dustin LeFebvre
https://medium.com/@dlefebvr/on-saturday-february-8th-the-decred-blockchain-will-have-been-adding-blocks-for-4-years-17fe3038f3bf
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: January 09, 2020, 07:55:32 PM

answered on matrix



30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: January 08, 2020, 12:41:24 PM
There is no fraud here.
As already explained, there is a difference between "bitcoin devs" and "bitcoin core devs" and decred was developed by bitcoin devs, which in addition to many other things used in bitcoin also developed atomic swaps.
The first bitcoin atomic swap, performed by Charlie Lee with litecoin, was using technology developed by decred's devs.
Do you know Jimmy Song from bitcoin Core Team?



One of Decred's founding devs, J.C. Vernaleo, also was a NASA developer.
Currently, the currency development is decentralized.
Company 0 has become just one of the companies that develop it.
Anyone can submit a project that will be voted on and if accepted by the community, implemented and the developers paid for the work.
If I'm not wrong DCR has over 200 contributors to the code
If you want to talk to devs you can find they here:

https://decred.org/community/

 



31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: December 16, 2019, 11:02:04 PM
Decred v1.5.0 is out!

This release includes a new consensus vote agenda for block header commitments. The vote will activate after 75% of PoS and 95% of PoW have upgraded.

Release notes: https://github.com/decred/decred-binaries/blob/master/release-notes.md
Downloads: https://decred.org/downloads



32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: December 10, 2019, 05:22:25 PM
November's issue of the Decred Journal is out now! Check it out for updates on DEX development, v1.5.0, approval of the Latam marketing initiative, a series of blog posts about LightningNetwork ticket splitting, and packed Media and External sections.


https://medium.com/decred/decred-journal-november-2019-3f4a5d0ad6de



33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 20, 2019, 07:38:57 PM

No, in my opinion Decred, with its thesis of on-chain governance, will be a failure if indeed a motivated minority does cause a chain split.

Are you a troll?


Don't do that. I'm debating for learning's sake. There are some people in the Bitcoin community who had been saying that "blockchain governance is a joke". I'm simply trying to find answers.

But I'll try to get answers from some of the developers to simple questions, like what if the motivated minority, comprised of miners and stakers, simply refuse to run the Core developers' software, and develops their own, with their own rules?

You have been answered here many times about this question.
Decred devs are no longer coming to bitcointalk for toxicity and trolls.
You can talk to all of them on DCR matrix
 

https://chat.decred.org/#/welcome
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 19, 2019, 01:32:17 PM
I'm a Decred HODLER, but I believe the coin is only successful until that first chain split.

Seriously? So in your opinion, coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum are not successful?


No, in my opinion Decred, with its thesis of on-chain governance, will be a failure if indeed a motivated minority does cause a chain split.

Are you a troll?



...in my opinion Decred, with its thesis of on-chain governance, will be a failure if indeed a motivated minority does cause a chain split.

I think a motivated minority will be able to cause a chain split.

Decred is developed to make it not possible because it would be very costly to do, but what if some bad actor would be only interested in finishing Decred project by a chain split to prove that on-chain governance is broken and don't think about the cost?

Yes, we can say that it is impossible to chain split decred without stakeholders agreeing to it.
Atack decred costs 20X more than taking control of bitcoin in a 51% attack.
Why would someone spend 20x more to attack decred, if with 20X less, they can do with bitcoin and earn much more billions of dollars?

https://blog.usejournal.com/apples-to-apples-decred-is-20x-more-expensive-to-attack-than-bitcoin-68bafeb4546f

https://medium.com/decred/decreds-hybrid-protocol-a-superior-deterrent-to-majority-attacks-9421bf486292

https://medium.com/decred/detailed-analysis-of-decred-fork-resistance-93022e0bcde7

35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 18, 2019, 09:39:27 PM
I prefer decred to believe that it will have a higher appreciation than bitcoin in the coming years.
DCR will appreciate in front of the btc, I see nothing that prevents decred from reaching where dash, monero and eth have already arrived. around 0.1 btc...

Remember about Litecoin. Despite everything (second crypto ever, fair launch, LN, etc.) still, the price never reached higher than 0.02BTC.



That was at another point in the market. Until 2016 the altcoins market was totally undervalued by the mainstream.
This has changed since 2016 and a lot of money has entered this market.
As I said before, ETH, Dash and monero had their ATH above 0.1 BTC. Decred can do the same or get close if it becomes more popular.
You also forgot to count the amount of coins in the market and the total supply.
Decred has around 10 million units launched of a total of 21 million.
Litecoin and others have 10X, 100X more units.
More units are expected to be worth less.
 


...several blockchain projects in the real world that use dcr, mainly in Brazil, such as www.originalmy.com...
The creator of originalmy is currently in eastern Europe, creating solutions for the Estonian and Latvian governments using the decred and DCRtime blockchain.
In Brazil there are also companies that pay your bills and receive decred.
Soon we will have a prepaid visa card which will be loaded with dcr and can be used in any store...

This is what I wanted to hear and see, which are real use cases for Decred. To be honest this is not much for an almost 4 years old cryptocurrency but is always better than nothing. Let's hope that there will be indeed more companies interested in Decred because this is the only way for this project to survive.


Decred has a very strong community spread across all continents. I just mentioned what is happening in Brazil, which is where I live and the community I belong to. I am sure that in other regions, local communities must be developing the currency ecosystem.



...Expecting developers to do everything, even find a use for currency, is the biggest mistake everyone else makes.

I just can't agree and think that cryptocurrency should at least have a purpose or any use case when developed because we already have more than 2970 cryptocurrencies that are trying to find the place on the market and to be honest without real use cases I don't see this to happen.

As I said we are entering the 2020 year and today is not enough only to launch a cryptocurrency to be successful exactly as until 2017. Today competition is so big that if your crypto is not special and doesn't have any purpose, then there are already hundreds of altcoins like this and they already lost 99% of the value until today.

The purpose of decred is to be the best and safest store of value in the market.
In addition it also provides income not only for POW miners, but also for stakeholders through POS, privacy and amazing governance.
Satoshi created bitcoin to fuck the system and the banks.
All coins that appears for another purpose in a beautiful whitepaper turns out to be scam.
Cryptocoins were not created to save the planet, to help musicians, artists, gnomes, urea production and bla bla bla
Can the blockchain be used for other purposes? Yes, but it is up to the community entrepreneurs to start their business and make money from it.
There is no need to find just one utility and create a coin around it. The blockchain is there, use it any way you like.
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 17, 2019, 01:17:34 PM

...

Or rename it to Decred Classic, "the real for-the-community Decred". I'm not sure of what's technically possible, but that was the point of the debate. On-chain governance can't stop a community of different standpoints from breaking apart, and splitting away.

Dude, you've been answered about it dozens of times but seems that you don't want to see the answer and don't stop repeating that fallacy.

It's not worth it financially for anyone to do in decred what happened to eth/etc and btc/bch when communities splited by centralized decisions and lack of consensus, which makes it "impossible" in DCR.

About copying and pasting the code from github, creating another currency and giving it any name you want, it can be done with any currency.
 It's up to the market to assess whether it deserves any respect or not.
So this is another currency, starting from scratch, there is no link to the previous blockchain. The whole story is deleted. The smart contracts made will not be present, nor will the records in the original blockchain.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 16, 2019, 02:05:09 PM
...The governance system through politeia allows any new feature on market to be implemented if the stakeholders wish.

I know of course about this but still what is the main use case for Decred? And if there is any then who is actually using Decred for this purpose? I hope it is clear enough?

We all know that experts assume that only 10% from all cryptocurrencies will survive in the end and the most important thing for each altcoin, token or any other cryptocurrency is to have a use case or at least to find its place on the crypto market like BTC as the safe heaven or XRP used for transactions because is fast, cheap and scalable.

There are already 3000 altcoins so 10% would be around 30 cryptocurrencies. Only so much will stay and that is why we have to start to ask the right questions and think properly about it.  There are many alts that are dying actually. Let's take all masternodecoins which on the hype of high ROI boomed in 2018 and today almost all of them lost 99% of the value.

We have to rethink if a particular coin is actually still needed at the end of the 2019 year and what will happen with it in 2020 and later?

Just look at all infrastructure projects like ETH, Waves, Wings, Stratis, etc. In the hype of ICO and Dapps building they also boomed but to be honest there are no Daaps which are known and widely used, additionally ICOs market changed and now we have IEO and in 2020 there will be no ICOs anymore.

So tell me please who is using Decred actually today and for what?

Many people, including me, use it as a store of value, just like btc.
But I prefer decred to believe that it will have a higher appreciation than bitcoin in the coming years.
DCR will appreciate in front of the btc, I see nothing that prevents decred from reaching where dash, monero and eth have already arrived. around 0.1 btc.
In addition there are several blockchain projects in the real world that use dcr, mainly in Brazil, such as www.originalmy.com
It is a company that intends to replace the notary's and that serves for general document and patent filings. Originalmy has already been accepted as legal evidence by the Brazilian Supreme Court.
The creator of originalmy is currently in eastern Europe, creating solutions for the Estonian and Latvian governments using the decred and DCRtime blockchain.
In Brazil there are also companies that pay your bills and receive decred.
Soon we will have a prepaid visa card which will be loaded with dcr and can be used in any store .

These are just small examples from the community I created in Brazil.
originalmy.com and its creator have no connection with decred's developers.
He is just a currency investor who has great ideas and has found a way to make money and disclose dcr through currency blockchain.
This is how a consistent ecosystem should be created.
With community action, just as it is with bitcoin.
Expecting developers to do everything, even find use for currency, is the biggest mistake everyone else makes.


EDIT: Some Brazilian companies that use decred through originalmy

38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 15, 2019, 07:54:16 PM
In my opinion, Decred was always a decent project with a dedicated team.

We can see that the development is ongoing and lately we have some strong moves upwards price wise and that is why I started to wonder what is so special about Decred, despite this what I have already mentioned?

There are other better, faster and cheaper altcoins that already are used for transfers, we have BTC which has found a place as digital gold and safe haven and to be honest I don't hear anything about Decred implementations or use cases?

Community governance sounds very good and to be honest, on this hype Decred makes his way to the top 50 on CMC, but what is the future for Decred?

You didn't say anything about privacy and the lightning network that is already implemented in v1.5 release candidadate1 recently released


EDIT: There is no other currency as safe against attacks as decred.
         DCR is more safe than bitcoin
         The governance system through politeia allows any new feature on market to be implemented if the stakeholders wish.
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 09, 2019, 08:13:54 PM


https://github.com/decred/decred-binaries/releases/tag/v1.5.0-rc1

v1.5.0 first release candidate is out!

If you like to live on the edge and want to try out the latest goodies from Decred v1.5-RC1 look no further!  

Be sure to let us know if you find any issues as we gear up towards a final release.




Some New features:

- This release introduces the privacy features based on CoinShuffle++.
CoinShuffle++ cooperative mixing features are added. Through this process, tickets may be bought from outputs in a CoinJoin transaction. CoinJoin change is not anonymized, and must be isolated to a different account and mixed down at standard amount values.
This implementation of CoinShuffle++ currently requires a central server as a coordination point between all peers in a mix. The Decred project operates a server at https://cspp.decred.org/, and more details about correct usage can be found there. Anyone is able to host their own server and configure their wallets to use it, but for the largest anonymity set it is best that most people remain using the same server.

- It also includes a preliminary Lightning Network implementation by matheusd. Most of the other work was completed by vctt and a new member of the team, bgptr. Many thanks to them for their hard work on this release.
This initial support should give users a chance to experience the capabilities of LN while we can also collect user feedback about how to best improve their experience with documentation or help.
To enable LN support, please set the new option "ln_enabled" to "true" in your config.json.

- Window size responsiveness has been added to most of the pages to allow for graceful change from small, medium and large screen sizes. When in "small" mode, the sidebar is moved to the bottom of the screen much like a mobile app.
When in "medium" mode, the sidebar is collapsed shows only icons. When in "large" mode, the sidebar is fully expanded and all the fields are fully shown.

- Dark mode (tonality) has been updated to have a more thoughtfully compiled pallette of color combinations. We can now start to develop other color modes if users show an interest in such a feature.

- Update Politeia proposal fetching to reduce amount of data that is consistantly requested. Previously, every load of decrediton would cause an unnecessary amount of data to be requested.
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 08, 2019, 01:16:59 PM


v1.5.0 first release candidate is out!

If you like to live on the edge and want to try out the latest goodies from Decred v1.5-RC1 look no further! 

Be sure to let us know if you find any issues as we gear up towards a final release.

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