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321  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Mt.Gox reloaded : Welcome to Mt.Gox's new and improved design! on: December 01, 2011, 07:15:51 AM
Just noticed, a quick credit edit



I am not sure why someone would want to advertise using a quote from Wikipedia as the source for anything, when the actual source is better.
322  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Biggest current auction site? Volume/users/items/etc. on: December 01, 2011, 07:00:10 AM
Does anyone know which BTC auction site is the biggest? Besides S/R? Where do I find the most items, users, sales, etc any recommendations?

We really need to get the legitimate side of the bitcoin economy growing...
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Bitcoin and legitimacy are not found on TOR.   Not that services are not reputable, just not what I think you might consider as legit.

http://www.bitcoinclassifieds.net/ and https://biddingpond.com/ have both been around for a while.

Newcomers http://www.mokimarket.com/ and http://bitmit.net/en/ look like they are trying to offer something different, which is great.

More are listed here http://www.thebitcoinlist.com/shopping/auction-sites/ and http://www.thebitcoinreview.com/sites.php?catid=4&subcatid=28
323  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin + Social Media + Viral Marketing + Political Warfare on: December 01, 2011, 06:24:01 AM
"earn .08 btc for every thousand follower"

That seems like a super low rate for what would be some mass spamming depending on how many of the followers are real or bots or inactive, which also brings me to the other side of this, how easily someone could game this site depending on what preventative measures you have in place to stop that.    What is the rate http://sponsoredtweets.com/ goes with?  I couldn't find specific information on a quick once over.
324  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Mt.Gox reloaded : Welcome to Mt.Gox's new and improved design! on: December 01, 2011, 03:47:02 AM
Well done.  I think that grey should be a little lighter, but I guess it might bring out those art designs on the wallpaper too much.   Everything is so large, I'll alert my grandma to join the site tonight Wink
325  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Converting Fraternities and College Apts to Bitcoin on: December 01, 2011, 03:09:27 AM
Also make sure to have some kind of bulletin board posting showing what they can use the Bitcoin's for.  I suggest printing this up on a poster Anonymity Online, Tor Guide in 10 Easy Steps, with cartoon image to really ensure people realize how easy it is.  And then give them a link to Silk Road.

Edit to this post, I just wanted to add I am not kidding.   I would like to see a mass movement of people using TOR and Silk Road.  Let's put these type of services to the test, not enough of the general public knows they don't have to go to the streets for their habits.   I think the security they have in place is strong enough, and I actually think a large influx of new users will help other Silk Road like sites try their hand.
326  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / [TECHDIRT] The Rise And Fall Of Bitcoin... But Is It Really Over Yet? on: December 01, 2011, 02:47:41 AM



from the not-quite dept

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Back in April, just as Bitcoin was starting to get some mainstream attention, I questioned its ability to succeed long term. Too much about it felt like a fad, and there seemed to be significant questions about it. However, over the next few months, as the price of Bitcoins rose quickly, and there was more and more interest in it, I wondered if perhaps my natural skepticism got the best of me. Of course, since then, the Bitcoin market has come way back down, and the concept has definitely lost a lot of its "shiny new thing" appeal.

Wired is running a detailed article on "The Rise and Fall of Bitcoin," which is a worthwhile read. Of course, it seems to be premised on the idea that Bitcoin is more or less dead -- a fad that came and went. Indeed, my initial post on Bitcoin questioned whether it would just be a fad. I still think it's likely... but I'm wondering if the big flare up over the past few months might be good for Bitcoin in the long run. Lots of speculators came and went, and Bitcoin gets to be ignored once more. Might that create a space to allow for a more sustainable ecosystem to be built, while the speculators and swindlers have moved on? Maybe. I'm still thinking that Bitcoin is most likely a fad that will die out. But sometimes a big flame out early on is a good way to obscure work that comes out of the ashes.

If I had to guess (and it's purely a guess), I'd say that the real legacy of Bitcoin may be in how it paved a path. The more interesting area to watch might not be what happens to Bitcoin specifically, but what the next attempt at such a currency brings around. There are lots of smart people looking at what happened to Bitcoin, and someone's going to come up with a better mousetrap.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/03295016910/rise-fall-bitcoin-is-it-really-over-yet.shtml

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My interests in both SolidCoin and then LiteCoin, and also just checking out the other coins leads me to somewhat believe that end paragraph.   I once thought that the Bitcoin developers don't listen enough or whatever, but with such large numbers, you really can't please everyone, the ability to improve on the current client gets harder unless you have one all powerful ruling factor that can save the day like SolidCoin or if you have enough people helping another open source project like Litecoin.  I won't even touch on Namecoin, as I am not personally a fan, but I would be lying if I said I didn't respect how long it has lasted for being the coin with a dual purpose and for the fact that it did try to add features and differentiate itself from Bitcoin enough where I could see people using Namecoin who have no interest in any of these other currencies.
327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: November 30, 2011, 03:34:52 AM
I don't know if this has already been brought up or not, but..

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Pyramid scheme

Since the aforementioned reasons mean Litecoin has no future potential, it effectively functions as a pyramid scheme, rewarding those who get in sooner at the expense of those who adopt it just before it finally fails (and are left with nothing). This is not the case for Bitcoin, since it has significant potential to become a long-term currency and continually be beneficial to adopters no matter when they begin using it.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Litecoin  Cheesy
328  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time Magazine : Bitcoin stops censorship on: November 30, 2011, 12:30:46 AM
Did not see this until now, good little spotlight for Bitcoin.
329  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is willing to create on: November 29, 2011, 11:41:02 PM
Since the current Bitcoin symbol is being shared with a country, maybe it is time to share something else, and get the mascot that Bitcoin deserves




I had to uninstall Photoshop for something, I hope it isn't noticeable
330  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Embeddable Miner for Websites - This idea for Bitcoin done? on: November 29, 2011, 11:05:53 PM
The dream of having Wikipedia run off the electricity of the users donating it to ensure things are kept ad free, and the only time you'd be paying to use the site, is obviously when you are on it.    There was Bitcoinplus.   KRAD miner I think.   The great Bitp.it pool started out with that.   With the difficulty the way it is, is attempting to find any amount of true usability for an online Bitcoin miner over?

Do people feel that this type of technology will only be abused? 
331  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Embedable Javascript Bitcoin miner for your website on: November 29, 2011, 10:58:25 PM
Litecoin coming in where Bitcoin devs seem to be lacking

The first version of the embeddable miner is ready. Smiley
I have written a short guide for webmasters interested in testing:
http://www.litecoinpool.org/embed
332  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is user BitcoinPorn dead? on: November 29, 2011, 10:57:36 PM
julz would totally knock me up given the chance, stop playing hard to get you  Kiss

You all are nuts and need to force yourself to do non Bitcoin related activities every so often  Cheesy
333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Online Litecoin Miner - beta testers wanted! on: November 29, 2011, 01:54:06 AM
(Edit: and the bitcoinplus site doesn't bother to point out that it costs WAY more in electricity to use than you will gain - in fact it doesn't point out anything at all about the costs and return ... I wonder why? Simple coz those numbers are so bad.)

Actually, in the case of that site, it was profitable when it started, even on a personal level I believe.  But it was more for people who owned sites, which at this point I don't think it is good for at all, I imagine only some form of browser "bot net" type situation would only make that valuable.  The owner abandoned the site for the most part, updates on it stopped long ago.

Anyways, of course I don't think that about Bitcoin as far as trading and TOR.  I know it is one application of it, just as the people who would abuse an online miner are only a subset of the people who want this on web sites. 

I think of the online miner as an ad replacement.  Web sites of full content, being able to have costs paid by the users electricity, who would rather pay with just a little electricity than the eyesores that are ads. 
334  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bruce Wagner and Wired.. on: November 28, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
Also, the author (Benjamin Wallace) of the article insists that Bruce Wagner is Bitcoin's chief proselytizer, this would maybe have been the case a while ago, but not any longer, to my knowledge, he (BW)'s been smart enough to keep a low profile since all hell broke lose with the housing scams, mybitcoin, pattaya and everything.

He is smart enough to stay off these forums.  Unfortunately a lot of Bitcoin users think that everything begins and ends with these forums when Bitcoin.org doesn't even link directly this place.    He runs a Google group that is quite active with Bitcoin related things.   Obviously, telling by the Wired article, he stays active.




ssaCEO, I wouldn't suggest ignoring Wired or any other media for that matter.  You seem to feel strongly, I think maybe you should approach the person who wrote that article.   If this piece got the writer hits, I have no doubts they wouldn't mind doing a follow up, especially if it can spur some controversy.   
335  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SwitchPoker.com - Adds Bitcoin Deposits! on: November 28, 2011, 08:17:47 PM
There are hundreds of thousands of ways to waste money, poker is not the only option.  Why doesn't the US gov't just ban LIFE?
Because they make their money the 'legal' state run lotto gambling way, no need to allow everyone to play multiple games to lose their money and have fun with it, the US enjoys the slowly killing our citizens with a weekly drawing to ensure there is only one winner a week, rather than many in a day.
336  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SwitchPoker.com - Adds Bitcoin Deposits! on: November 28, 2011, 01:39:09 PM
This is big news.  Someone needs to get on top of making this, but a US version.  Gambling is going to keep Bitcoin afloat if people will get on top of it quicker.   I think maybe some of these people who created these BTC gambling sites should start approaching the established big name poker sites to see if deals can be worked out.  Sell your companies to them for the greater good of Bitcoin.
337  Other / Meta / Re: Happy 2 Year Anniversary Bitcoin Forums! on: November 28, 2011, 01:23:28 PM
Thank you for all your efforts, theymos.
And to the other mods that have come and gone.  Hell, even Atlas has his threads still stickied in the newbie section, his contributions were good.  2 years seems like forever on these boards.
338  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is why we can't have nice things. on: November 28, 2011, 01:19:55 PM
What would you tell Wired about Bruce?

To talk to some SomethingAwful goons for some funny stories.
339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Online Litecoin Miner - beta testers wanted! on: November 28, 2011, 01:17:59 PM
I would like to know what everybody thinks about embeddable miners, such as the one by BitcoinPlus (http://www.bitcoinplus.com/miner/embeddable).

Please do it.  I guarantee more Litecoin users because of this.   Many elements of BitcoinPlus were done right too, such as the page that explains why is my computer making noise when it's on this site and etc. 
340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Online Litecoin Miner - beta testers wanted! on: November 28, 2011, 01:15:42 PM
Again I ask - why these projects?
The only real application for them is to steal CPU cycles from people browsing your web sites.

Just like the only real application for Bitcoin is to ensure illegal goods are able to be traded freely on TOR.    I guess it is possible to see it that way if you shut your eyes halfway so everything looks blurry.   
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