I don't worry much about the price. Everything will go back high when markets stabilizes. Even Komodo prices will go back higher than today. What matters most is the technology of Komodo. The technologgy is much more important. We have that in Komodo and nowhere else. So lets just let others know about it. More awareness will make Komodo valuable in the future.  I agree it will go back higher after the market stabilizes all crypto coins have been taking a beating. Kmd has the tech and also awareness kmd been around for a long time if it dips more consider it a buy. This season coming is kmd season long awaited! That would be the hope. Unfortunately, it appears tech and price are inversely related in crypto and may be this way for a long time. It doesn't help that KMD continues to have the curse of always being ignored and having other projects claim to achieve tech advancements that KMD has already done or outperformed (atomic swaps and a record TPS, for example). Could also be just a case of tech advancing too fast for marketing to catch up. I think it'll only be when marketing and awareness finally catches up to all of the tech is when we'll see KMD valued as it should be. |
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I don't think so. For instance, March 14th 2017 shows that KMD was around 30k sats. Not the 750 sats that you stated (I don't think KMD was ever close to being this low). Also, what makes you say that June 21st 2017 was during an irrational market? Is the market not irrational today? Are the dates that you specifically picked not irrational? Just wondering.
See above for the 1st part of how you're wrong. As for the rest, between May 15 and June 15 2017, nearly every market irrationally "exploded" to new ATH levels. The majority of the markets today are still overvalued and the dates that I picked represent a realistic trendline that ignores both irrational and hype spikes that don't matter to any long term value. Ok. So I guess let's just completely ignore the December 2017 hype when KMD and pretty much everything else was on its way up to its respective ATH? You used December 11 as one your plot points. You say most markets are still overvalued today. Doesn't that suggest that the market is still irrational today? You also used today as one of your plot points. |
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...Where did you obtain those numbers? They don't seem to correlate with what's on CMC...
Then you CMC wrong, because that's where the chart and numbers came from (although I added the physical trendline). ...I'm simply just comparing today to exactly one year ago to make a point that even though KMD has advanced so much tech-wise, the price has gone the opposite direction in terms of BTC. ...
And, like I said, you're starting from a point in time that was still an irrational market and not taking that into account. I don't think so. For instance, March 14th 2017 shows that KMD was around 30k sats. Not the 750 sats that you stated (I don't think KMD was ever close to being this low). Also, what makes you say that June 21st 2017 was during an irrational market? Is the market not irrational today? Are the dates that you specifically picked not irrational? Just wondering. |
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A little food for thought. I like looking at historical price data to assess a project.
Exactly 1 year ago on June 21, 2017, KMD price was around $2.11 while BTC price was $2700. KMD volume at this time was around 1.2 mil.
Today, KMD price is around $1.81 and BTC is at around $6700. KMD volume is currently about $300k.
So was KMD overvalued 1 year ago or incredibly undervalued today? Alot of good things have happened in a year for KMD. Much improved wallet, release of BarterDEX, 3 DICOs going with more to come, plus many more things in the pipeline. Bottom line is great, working tech.
Next question is, if KMD is undervalued, then why? Is the market really that stupid or is it another issue? The tech is sound, so should this be a wake up call for the marketing team? I don't know. Just something to think about.
Part of what you're not taking into account is that all markets went, pretty much, insane just before the time of your base comparison. Once you get past that, you should ignore the pseudo USD price of combining mutiple markets to arrive at a "price" that's not truely a legitimate value. Now, let's look at real markets: March 14, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00000751 April 14, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00011952 Dec 11, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00018155 June 20, 2018 - KMD/BTC - 0.00027889 Plot it all on a realistic trendline and you get:  Even the massive "crashes" that amount to nothing more than realistic corrections end up on an upward trend. Where did you obtain those numbers? They don't seem to correlate with what's on CMC. Also seems a bit like you're cherry picking dates to make your data look like what you want. I'm simply just comparing today to exactly one year ago to make a point that even though KMD has advanced so much tech-wise, the price has gone the opposite direction in terms of BTC. I'm not trying to FUD. Was just wanting to strike up a conversation and see if anyone could come up with a good reason/solution. Not sure where all these fudders suddenly came out from. Reminds me of why I don't hang out in these forums much anymore. |
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A little food for thought. I like looking at historical price data to assess a project.
Exactly 1 year ago on June 21, 2017, KMD price was around $2.11 while BTC price was $2700. KMD volume at this time was around 1.2 mil.
Today, KMD price is around $1.81 and BTC is at around $6700. KMD volume is currently about $300k.
So was KMD overvalued 1 year ago or incredibly undervalued today? Alot of good things have happened in a year for KMD. Much improved wallet, release of BarterDEX, 3 DICOs going with more to come, plus many more things in the pipeline. Bottom line is great, working tech.
Next question is, if KMD is undervalued, then why? Is the market really that stupid or is it another issue? The tech is sound, so should this be a wake up call for the marketing team? I don't know. Just something to think about.
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It's hard to watch other coins pump while kmd stays relatively neutral. Its day will come, and those who remained patient and continue to show support for this path blazing technology will be rewarded, handsomely.  True, the coin that sold for pseudo $1.89 in Nov and was between pseudo $8.90-$12.50 in Dec hasn't moved upwards a bit.  people prefer x20 pump and dump and not x3 - x5 stable growth :[ in my opinion stable growth is much better because 1) in the long run the stable growth is a lot bigger most of the times 2) its more reliable for big investments so remember lucky llama KMD is reliable for big investments and keeps growing slowly and steady... and if you find it funny that KMD didnt grow that much compare to other coins, you may not understand some basic stuff Some people also forget KMD was going for $0.10 in February. We've had about a 100x increase in price this year. I'd say that's already pretty significant. If KMD did the same thing in 2018, it'll be close to $1000 per coin. Probably not likely, but if people were to expect the same performance or better, that's about where the price would have to be at end of 2018. Personally, I wouldn't mind a "humble" 5-10x increase in 2018, which is more likely. Your calculation is wrong. The increase of KMD is calculated in relation to BTC and not to USD. In February BTC was $1000 so that is what made the huge progress. Actually kmd is x7 up and not x100 up since February. Sure, if you'd rather think in terms of BTC then it's about a 5-7x increase. Not sure what your point is. A lot of people also like to think in terms of USD. So I'm not sure if you can really say that one way is right or wrong. Like you pointed out, BTC also went up about 14x since February. To be able to go up 7x against BTC while BTC is going up 14x is pretty impressive. My point is that KMD price has been up to par with pretty much anything else out there, and some people don't give it enough credit. |
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It's hard to watch other coins pump while kmd stays relatively neutral. Its day will come, and those who remained patient and continue to show support for this path blazing technology will be rewarded, handsomely. True, the coin that sold for pseudo $1.89 in Nov and was between pseudo $8.90-$12.50 in Dec hasn't moved upwards a bit. people prefer x20 pump and dump and not x3 - x5 stable growth :[ in my opinion stable growth is much better because 1) in the long run the stable growth is a lot bigger most of the times 2) its more reliable for big investments so remember lucky llama KMD is reliable for big investments and keeps growing slowly and steady... and if you find it funny that KMD didnt grow that much compare to other coins, you may not understand some basic stuff Some people also forget KMD was going for $0.10 in February. We've had about a 100x increase in price this year. I'd say that's already pretty significant. If KMD did the same thing in 2018, it'll be close to $1000 per coin. Probably not likely, but if people were to expect the same performance or better, that's about where the price would have to be at end of 2018. Personally, I wouldn't mind a "humble" 5-10x increase in 2018, which is more likely. |
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@jl777
Thanks for being a great leader, visionary, and for working tirelessly to make all of our lives better than it was yesterday. Happy holidays to you.
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Despite the slight price increase, am still surprised by the low price of this coin
what is the price you expect for this coin?? it doubled though.. I think its enough for the year  Yes, going too high too quick is never good. But the potential for KMD to go up more is high considering the coins/tokens above it on coinmarketcap. The amount of working tech to marketing ratio is very high for KMD. Whereas some projects in the top 30 are pretty much all marketing/hype. |
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so whats the news in abu dhabi conference? is it good news?
I believe they are concentrating 100% on the dICO right now. After the launch there may be lots of updates forthcoming. When is the launch of dICO. tia, looks like it takes very long. I still hope before the end of the year. My guess is it will likely be in January 2018, especially with the holidays coming up. The entire team has worked incredibly hard all year long. Let them be able to spend some quality time with their family and friends and let's be grateful for what we already have  |
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The main battlefield is crypto vs fiat.
I'm glad more people are starting to realize this now. Jl777 realized this 4 years ago when he created SuperNET. Just goes to show how far ahead of the game this platform and the dev team is |
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Nice. One day, the dividends from those barterdex fees are going to be quite lucrative. |
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I'm sure everybody of the team will be super happy that everything is over on the 16th :')
Then we'll have a few people jumping up and down crying because they failed to convert the BTCD despite having a full year to do it. You just know its coming. I would have no sympathy for these people and kindly ask them to stop investing in crypto altogether. No other team goes to such great lengths to maintain the swap for this long. To help jl777 out, I'll try to repeat the dates with every post I make from now on. Next payout is Oct. 15 Last payout is Jan. 15 Don't procrastinate or you will really piss jl777 off! |
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SWAP completed! 1441283738-33380151 {"requestid":1441283738,"quoteid":33380151,"txs":[],"sentflags":["alicespend", "bobspend", "bobpayment", "alicepayment", "bobdeposit", "bobrefund"],"values":[0.00370886, 10.34269604, 0.00413520, 10.34279604, 0.00465210, 0, 0, 0.00422576, 0, 0, 0],"result":"success","status":"finished","paymentspent":"0716e334898355002dc1da5221ffb305fa72e959443ea73cf623d55a147482a2","Apaymentspent":"d9c60a5769d6f09ac4e8b9b8774d66953c3de845c505ae1859bc2929cb256d60","depositspent":"8f54cc9f72b258bd251e984045773af96e582bc9983ec9eb0523fd816ee74a97"}
This was an atomic swap with one side not having either BTC or KMD running, it was purely using electrum servers.
I think it is the first such atomic swap that was automatically ordermatched and completed. Of course a year from now, maybe others will get lots of press for achieving this too.
It is still in debugging and I just got it working today. So we are now internally testing SPV barterDEX, along with setting up electrum servers for dozens of coins
for those that understand the tech a bit, I will let you think through the implications a bit
That's insane. If it were zcash or litecoin making this same announcement, price wouldve doubled by now. I'm already buying back more KMD. Nice thing about investing in KMD is there's always a long lag between announcements and price movement. Makes it very predictable |
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can someone please explain what Supernet (specifically the UNITY asset on the NXT asset exchange) has to do with any of this - meaning Komodo? Is UNITY still relevant at all? Worth anything? If so, why? Is the NXT asset exchange the only place to hold UNITY? Help.
The SuperNET asset is a holding asset that will also receive revenue shares from all of the services on the Komodo platform (Jumblr, DEX, Pangea poker, etc.) when all of these things start producing enough dividends to be distributed. The asset itself has a base value made up by all of its holdings, which can be seen here: http://old.supernet.org/nav.phpI think the page may not be completely up to date, but you get the idea. When any of those holdings go up, the SuperNET asset value also goes up and when any of the holdings produce dividends, SuperNET asset holders also get a portion of those dividends. It's almost like the Berkshire Hathaway stock of the crypto world. So yes, it's worth something. Currently the only place to hold the asset is on NXT. Soon though, the asset will be migrated over to Komodo as an assetchain that will be independent of NXT and tradable on BarterDEX. |
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After the good news released volume and price didn't went up? Where are the people looking for decentralized exchange..
I assume they are fully loaded and waiting for the actual working DEX. The funny thing is, it's been working. Not sure how many trades have done at this point, but I think it's been a lot. Just no simple to use GUI yet, but it seems that is currently in progress. |
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What is there to market when it is still being developed, its a bad decision to market something when they can't specify any specific dates when the developments are coming out. It would only look that they are releasing a hype news.
I beg to differ. Agama - the multicoin wallet app is at full product phase, just needing bug fixes and enhancements, which are always in progress Jumblr - the KMD and soon to be BTC anonymizer is complete, just needs GUI BarterDEX - a true decentralized exchange is also pretty much complete, GUI in progress This is way more than any of the token ICOs out there has to offer. From what I can tell, most only has a whitepaper and look at how much marketing are involved in those projects. If anything, KMD is a bit behind on the marketing department, but there has been talk in slack about this and I think the team agrees. It seems marketing will likely ramp up quite a bit over the next several weeks. Edit: oh yeah, and let's not forget that Zcash, the crypto from which KMD forked barely has a GUI. They also just recently demonstrated a very basic atomic coin swap - something that Jl777 has had working and had been perfecting for over a year now. |
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To the devs: Nice to see some people are still keeping this coin going. Has anyone heard of or considered working to join this decentralized exchange? http://barterdex.com/Could be a good thing for Coino |
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there's litteraly no true roadmap, still no blockchain uses dPow, still no even a date for the exchange and the snapshot.
You are always lamenting.I think you will live better selling your coins.Think about I'm not always lamenting but many (too much) things are not ready yet. In jenuary EasyDex was said that was ready in 3-4 months. The snapshot was said that was 13 june, and delayed just some days before. And for other point see the post before. And yes, i'm a holder since ico and start thinking to sell evrything. 7 Month has passed since ICO, and 7 months with nothing properly working it's a lot. Changing the exchange name is not an update or a point of the roadmap. A Tutorial to install the bugged AGAMA is not an update. Also it's a wallet, it has to be easy to use, a tutorial to use it is simply ridiculous. I think a question to ask yourself is what is the reason for the impatience? Is it because you truly want to be able to use the tech and features or do you just want to see the price gain that's suppose to come with the releases? You've held since the ICO, so you've already made about 10x your investment. To complain about that is ridiculous. The next 10x may take another 7 months or a year. It's x3 since the price is compared to btc. It's both, i'm an early investor, i want to be able to use a good decentralized exchange and tp paying patience get some gain, i always thought that dPow is a very good idea, why no other blockchain use it? There is enough advertise?. The waiting is not a problem, i saw a lot of angry reactions to my post. The problem is that you cant say that on some day x will be a snapshot and then this not happen. It's a cheat to investors. Also at the end of the ico was said that easydex will be ready in 3-4 months and now are 7 months wait. Why just you dont make an analysis from a good software engineer and you give investors approximate dates to the roadmap? You have a lot of money, a lot of programmers and the fix of a website is still TBA? I think that's the reason why there's no ETA for anything anymore. Supernet/komodo is very complex with lots of moving parts. The problem seems to be that there's just not enough manpower to handle everything and it's difficult to hire developers. Just having the funds doesnt solve everything. Gotta remember that this is a decentralized organization started by volunteers, not a large tech company. I'm not denying that it is frustrating, but that's the current situation and we just have to accept it for now. At least you're not sitting at a lost even with all the delays. Even 3x in terms of btc is still pretty damn good, considering how much btc has gained, if you rather think of it that way. |
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there's litteraly no true roadmap, still no blockchain uses dPow, still no even a date for the exchange and the snapshot.
You are always lamenting.I think you will live better selling your coins.Think about I'm not always lamenting but many (too much) things are not ready yet. In jenuary EasyDex was said that was ready in 3-4 months. The snapshot was said that was 13 june, and delayed just some days before. And for other point see the post before. And yes, i'm a holder since ico and start thinking to sell evrything. 7 Month has passed since ICO, and 7 months with nothing properly working it's a lot. Changing the exchange name is not an update or a point of the roadmap. A Tutorial to install the bugged AGAMA is not an update. Also it's a wallet, it has to be easy to use, a tutorial to use it is simply ridiculous. I think a question to ask yourself is what is the reason for the impatience? Is it because you truly want to be able to use the tech and features or do you just want to see the price gain that's suppose to come with the releases? You've held since the ICO, so you've already made about 10x your investment. To complain about that is ridiculous. The next 10x may take another 7 months or a year. |
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