There was no terms or policy changed at any time since the site opened over a year ago. More false claims in the forum.
Then what is the policy on when a player uses a flaw in the system to win before this mess happened? |
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Man this Doog kid is really Bashing PRC unfairly. Ive had friends use this site and used it myself. Dean (The owner of PRC) has always run a fair clean business, all he asks is you do the same.
After a couple years of having opportunities to rip people off I have never seen Dean do anything 'shady'. Ever..
The most confusing situation is the sjess one. He found a bug and tried to exploit it. Now we can sit here and forum debate all day about it but I think dean has good logic in that he returned all the initial funds to sjess and fixed the exploit. Btw sjess did not admit to what he was doing when he was accused. It took Dean/the community around PRC to figure out he exploited the bug. He knew what he was doing was shady and he purposefully hid it until we all called him out on exactly what he was doing and how.
If you played poker and someone could see your cards cause they "figured out how" would you say that person would be allowed to keep their money without a user end agreement? I would say certainly say no, but i could argue yes if I wanted to. This kind of behavior is shady and if dean had given sjess the investor funds I personally would have left the PRC community. I don't want people like sjess hanging around trying to rip everyone off. A smart asshole is still an asshole.
We all know how greedy people are and how some will do/say just about anything for money. You cant just hand money to people every time they ask for it. I have seen Dean pay for things out of his pocket quite a few times myself (before and after being asked by the players) and I don't think he should pay for this one.
Since this exploit Dean has stopped working on so many new "features" and started more on the security side. Dean might not be clairvoyant, but he is a reasonable, morale person who learns from his mistakes (rare quality combo imo).
Anyway I just hate seeing an honest, hard worker like Dean getting bashed by the same couple forum trolls when there are a couple hundred of us who don't troll forums, but are perfectly happy with our service.
But he isn't honest, because he change the policy and retro-actively implemented that new policy, so that makes him dishonest. If google or facebook did this, there would be lawsuits. |
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can I reserve a spot to join once i got member  Sadly no. OK so, since bitcoininformation joined I feel a bit better about joining it, since he rates all those ads.
But a few informations before I even try to join it:
You are going to pay monthly, but requires a minimum 25 posts per week?
Weekly payouts. to be honest, this sort of advertising only works good for long term campaign advertising, if you do a short with small limits, your not going to see any fast results. It goes the same with all forms of advertising. Your wasting time I tell you if your doing this short term and limit the amount of posts like this.
We are testing to see a couple of facets. We aren't looking for fast results, but we are looking for some type of results. We are also using this to build a bit of trust in the community. Also our competitors are doing it so we have to look at it and crunch the numbers. Well, since I already lost a day and I'm not realy that active on the forum I'll pass and wait the monthly payout.
I would probably be between 12~18 posts on 17 July.
Ok maybe next round we can get you in  |
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50 posts per week? Or per month?
Per week. Ah that's not so bad I guess. Can you save me a spot until Primedice pays out in less than a week? I will let you even if all the spots fill up, just save reference to this part of the thread and pm me in a week. Alright, although I might be gone on vaca (at least I hope to xD) I'll save this right away, I love the site. Yeah whenever you get a chance. And thank you! Looks like an interesting campaign esp given weekly payouts
Will keep an eye on you guys and see if it makes sense to transition to your campaign
Of course it make sense to transition to our campaign  |
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50 posts per week? Or per month?
Per week. Ah that's not so bad I guess. Can you save me a spot until Primedice pays out in less than a week? I will let you even if all the spots fill up, just save reference to this part of the thread and pm me in a week. |
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50 posts per week? Or per month?
Per week. |
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so i can modify the signature as long it keep the original one...? max post per month is 200 , am i correct ? Other signature allowed ? This is interesting but i still have to wait  You can modify the design, as long as it has the FastBluff name, 1% house edge and instant payout with a link to the site with ?utm_source with your username. Yes 200 a month, it is 50 max post a week, and 20 min post a week or 80 min post a month. This may change in the future, as this very much a beta to feel out how this is working and going. No other signatures are allowed, unless you check with us, like bitcoininformation did ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684966.msg7774721#msg7774721). We aren't strict but we would like to be the only paid signature in your signature box. |
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It's not clear to me whether the 25min/50max posts are per-week or per month.
Per month. Thank you, also can you change in the url in your signature to https://fastbluff.com?utm_source=bitcoininformation, this will help us track who is coming from who! There you go! Totally forgot to do that, sorry. One last question, are payments weekly or monthly? They will be monthly, we can work out a weekly payment for the first week, if you want just to prove we are not scammers, since you have a lot of high quality post. Ok, thanks for the clarification. I think I'm not going to join at this time. The offer doesn't seem so attractive given that it's the same rates as primedice but a much much lower limit. As far as I can tell, I may as well join primedice and get paid for many more posts per month. EDIT: just saw the update. I'm going to go ahead and add you then. Starting post count: 166 Payment address: 18z6fGQBEKwohaK66rtcnAKi817bFbwkWU Can you go ahead and confirm some details about the payment scheme. The first paydate? The start/end dates of the first term? If you want us to PM a post count change, or if you plan on doing it yourself? etc? From my experience with xbtec I learned that it's important to clarify all this stuff up front in order to avoid delays, confusion, etc. Can you just change the url to https://fastbluff.com?utm_source=sed thank you. The first pay date for everyone that registered today will be July 17, 2014 at 12pm PST time. We will verify them that day and pm everyone our count. If you have an issue with our count, we will give you time to dispute it. We will then send the payment in one transaction to everyone and post here. Where we will want people to confirm they did get paid, at least for the first couple of payments. We will also tell you if we are going to continue with the campaign after the 4th payment. Great! 1) I went ahead and changed the url as you requested. PS: Maybe you should put that in the OP (or did I miss it?). "Please replace "?utm_source=fastbluff" with "?utm_source=YOURFORUMUSERNAME" where YOURFORUMUSERNAME is your bitcointalk username. 2) Thanks for clarifying the payment conditions up-front. I think that's really important! 3) Looking forward to the early-adopter bonus 1) We went ahead and highlighted for other users. 2) No problem if any thing else isn't clear let us know! 3) Good! |
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joining up!
Current post: 148
Activity:70 Member
Bitcoin Address:1KXTiRuATvuuF1agXP3e8QyDxNA5GMWmyx
Thank you! We accepted you. Hope sucess to your campaign. All these problems with payments and signature campaigns closing are making me feel sad Thank you, we hope to restore faith in these campaigns. We have taken every standard practice to make sure their is little to no risk from us to the user, and users to us. Hence why we put strict limits on post, amount users we are accepting and letting everyone know right from the beginning that we are committed for the next month but we don't know if this will go beyond that. We want people to feel safe and at easy when interacting with any part of our site, from the actual site, to any extension of our site, like this campaign. I would like to have a try！
Name:kaiy
Current post: 72
Activity:70 Member
Bitcoin Address:1GcxtxKNqKLDLWdtsXMi7osgEyBW8sHMJL
Thank you, just change the url to https://fastbluff.com/?utm_source=kaiy just for easier tracking for our records. I have changed my URL Current post: 74 Thank you! |
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I would like to have a try！
Name:kaiy
Current post: 72
Activity:70 Member
Bitcoin Address:1GcxtxKNqKLDLWdtsXMi7osgEyBW8sHMJL
Thank you, just change the url to https://fastbluff.com/?utm_source=kaiy just for easier tracking for our records. |
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The first pay date for everyone that registered today will be July 17, 2014 at 12pm PST time. We will verify them that day and pm everyone our count. If you have an issue with our count, we will give you time to dispute it. We will then send the payment in one transaction to everyone and post here. Where we will want people to confirm they did get paid, at least for the first couple of payments. That is an excellent way of handling the payments. So another 10 points for you guys. My confidence in this campaigns grows by the minute.  By the way, all posts that I made in this thread can be ignored. They shouldn't count towards my total post count. Thank you! We will giving out bonus for the first people that registered since they took our leap of faith. |
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It's not clear to me whether the 25min/50max posts are per-week or per month.
Per month. Thank you, also can you change in the url in your signature to https://fastbluff.com?utm_source=bitcoininformation, this will help us track who is coming from who! There you go! Totally forgot to do that, sorry. One last question, are payments weekly or monthly? They will be monthly, we can work out a weekly payment for the first week, if you want just to prove we are not scammers, since you have a lot of high quality post. Ok, thanks for the clarification. I think I'm not going to join at this time. The offer doesn't seem so attractive given that it's the same rates as primedice but a much much lower limit. As far as I can tell, I may as well join primedice and get paid for many more posts per month. EDIT: just saw the update. I'm going to go ahead and add you then. Starting post count: 166 Payment address: 18z6fGQBEKwohaK66rtcnAKi817bFbwkWU Can you go ahead and confirm some details about the payment scheme. The first paydate? The start/end dates of the first term? If you want us to PM a post count change, or if you plan on doing it yourself? etc? From my experience with xbtec I learned that it's important to clarify all this stuff up front in order to avoid delays, confusion, etc. Can you just change the url to https://fastbluff.com?utm_source=sed thank you. The first pay date for everyone that registered today will be July 17, 2014 at 12pm PST time. We will verify them that day and pm everyone our count. If you have an issue with our count, we will give you time to dispute it. We will then send the payment in one transaction to everyone and post here. Where we will want people to confirm they did get paid, at least for the first couple of payments. We will also tell you if we are going to continue with the campaign after the 4th payment. |
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They will pay, I know the people behind this site, and if they don't pay you, come to me and I will pay out any debt for them Anymore questions about payments? I think not.... *Investor in the site, not owner, or runner* Well, as gweedo is standing behind u, no more Q about escrow. But, u need to re-consider your rates... either allow people to post more than 400 per month or offer them more per post. We just changed it to weekly. We have low limits so again we can test the waters and make smart decisions, I would think people would be happy about the lower limits as we are exploring this option. |
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Yes for all, so don't worry you are already included. It would only be fair. 10 points for doing that. It might be smart to update the OP to reflect this change. Thank you, and yes have just done this. |
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Post count: 2048 (excluding this post)
Bitcoin address:
1Mcpe26uh5yMPr8DH917XWrEjQRSEXLcyA
Thank you just change the signature url to https://fastbluff.com?utm_source=echoes so we can track stuff better. Ok. Ok we can do a weekly payment.
For all? Yes for all, so don't worry you are already included. It would only be fair. |
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They will be monthly, we can work out a weekly payment for the first week, if you want just to prove we are not scammers, since you have a lot of high quality post. Thank you! I post because I want to, not because I the "need" BTC. I see it as a tip for the posts I make, not as work (as some people see it). Anyway, doing one payment after a week is highly recommended if you ask me. It gives people the confidence to join this campaign, since a lot of people don't know gweedo. Extra confidence and trust in a campaign is always good, don't you think? Ok we can do a weekly payment. |
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Post count: 2048 (excluding this post)
Bitcoin address:
1Mcpe26uh5yMPr8DH917XWrEjQRSEXLcyA
Thank you just change the signature url to https://fastbluff.com?utm_source=echoes so we can track stuff better. |
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It's not clear to me whether the 25min/50max posts are per-week or per month.
Per month. Thank you, also can you change in the url in your signature to https://fastbluff.com?utm_source=bitcoininformation, this will help us track who is coming from who! There you go! Totally forgot to do that, sorry. One last question, are payments weekly or monthly? They will be monthly, we can work out a weekly payment for the first week, if you want just to prove we are not scammers, since you have a lot of high quality post. |
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FastBluff, I would sign up, but I am currently trying to help out people in the UpDown.BT signature campaign that didn't get paid. Would it be a problem if I kept it and just added yours on the first line?
We can do it as long as it on top of the updown.bt signature and since you been around her for a bit. Thank you very much. Then I shall be your first campaign member Adding the signature now. Post count: 4244 (excluding this post) Bitcoin address: 1MwX49dtLdMckRXtkTYi2BCbcmgLp5rf2rThank you, also can you change in the url in your signature to https://fastbluff.com?utm_source=bitcoininformation, this will help us track who is coming from who! |
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