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1621  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoincharts down on: August 03, 2011, 10:29:41 PM
They have their own problems. They have multi-hour holes in their data, and the price chart for 7 days or more shows a flat line at 0, apparently because they have some junk transaction around $300,000/BTC in their data throwing off the scaling.

The graphics are pretty, but the data isn't reliable.
1622  Economy / Speculation / Re: PANIC! on: August 03, 2011, 08:32:18 PM
Seems the volume of panic sellers has dried up at this point, yes?
No, the volume of buyers has dried up. There's very little market depth on the buy side right now. The current buy-side "wall" is at $8. and it's small by the standards of a day or so ago.

1623  Economy / Trading Discussion / Bitcoincharts down on: August 03, 2011, 08:13:32 PM
http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/ is "down for maintenance". They really should avoid doing that during periods of high volatility.
1624  Economy / Speculation / Re: Battle for the Single Digits on: August 03, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
There's no market depth right now. There's only 3000 BTC of depth between $8 and $11.  A day ago, there was 30,000 BTC of depth. So small trades can kick the price all over the place. The price has ranged from $9.7 to $10.5 in the last two minutes.
1625  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt. Gox at $9.00, but bids above that price. Mt. Gox broken again? on: August 03, 2011, 05:43:42 PM
Now that the market depth has updated, this looks real. Highest bid is now $9.25, last trade is $9.37.
1626  Economy / Speculation / Mt. Gox at $9.00, but bids above that price. Mt. Gox broken again? on: August 03, 2011, 05:40:47 PM
Mt. Gox is behaving strangely, yet again.  Highest bid $10.11, last trade $8.99.
1627  Economy / Speculation / Re: Battle for the Single Digits won! on: August 03, 2011, 05:38:04 PM
Just hit single digits at $9.98.
1628  Economy / Speculation / "Global Standard Bank" is still buying at $13.51. on: August 03, 2011, 05:37:09 PM
Those clowns at "Global Standard Bank" set a buy and a sell price for Bitcoins every day. Today, they're still buying at $13.51.  However, considering their embarrassing record of phony bank building pictures and calling themselves a "bank" without registering as one, I'd have serious doubts about whether they'd actually take the loss and pay up.
1629  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price collapse! on: August 03, 2011, 05:13:08 PM
Well, what did you expect?  There was a speculative bubble in something with no intrinsic value, and it collapsed.

Go read "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds".
1630  Economy / Speculation / Re: Long, slow slide on: August 03, 2011, 05:07:23 PM

Classic financial bubble pattern.


Bitcoin, last 6 months.

Any questions?
1631  Economy / Speculation / Re: How low can we go? on: August 03, 2011, 05:42:29 AM
Estimate on how low can we go?!
There's always a bottom at 0.
1632  Economy / Speculation / Long, slow slide on: August 02, 2011, 09:35:34 PM

Mt. Gox, last 45 days.


The overall trend since the Mt. Gox screwup in June has been downward. This is normal after a bubble.

As I keep pointing out, it takes about $100,000 in new cash every day to feed the beast. It's not coming in any more.
1633  Economy / Speculation / Far more sellers than buyers on: August 02, 2011, 04:03:07 PM

Market depth, Mt. Gox.

There are far more sellers than buyers this week. The sell side keeps building up, but little new cash is coming in on the buy side.

Remember, it takes $100,000 a day in new cash to keep up with mining. If the supply of suckers investors dries up, Bitcoin must drop.
1634  Economy / Speculation / No, attention is elsewhere on: August 01, 2011, 08:03:50 PM
Everybody with serious investments is watching the US debt deal. No time to play in the Bitcoin sandbox today.

Look how thin the market depth is.  The price is going up and down on dinky trades.
1635  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt Gox having issues again on: August 01, 2011, 06:22:19 PM
The bitcoin community needs fully professional exchanges, at highest security standards.
The volume isn't there for that. The entire Bitcoin world has roughly the volume of one average supermarket.
1636  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt Gox having issues again on: August 01, 2011, 04:02:35 AM
In the end, not much happened.

Mt. Gox, last 3 days
The price dropped about $0.10/BTC over 3 days. For about 12 hours, Mt. Gox seems to have had problems.

It's not clear if the above chart reflects any "rollbacks" performed by Mt. Gox.
1637  Economy / Speculation / Re: Long, slow slide on: July 31, 2011, 06:49:52 AM
After three weeks of slide and turmoil, we've now had two weeks of modest stability, at $13.50 +- 0.50.  

We're now up to 3 weeks at $13.50 +- 0.50.  Stability continues.

You could now price something in Bitcoins and not change the price very often.
1638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Phone Call From Dwolla on: July 29, 2011, 02:27:11 AM
Dwolla appears to be based somewhere near Des Moines, Iowa. 
They're in a hacker space, Foundry Coworking, at 1312 Locust St, Des Moines, Iowa. So says the Iowa state corporation registry. If there's a problem, that's where you send the process server or collection agency.

Bitcoin oriented companies remain rather low-rent. Dwolla is in a low-cost hacker space. Mt. Gox used to be Magic, the Gathering Online Exchange. "Global Standard Bank" put up fake pictures of their supposed premises and got caught. Of the ones outside major countries, Tradehill is in Chile, and Liberty Reserve is in Costa Rica. All these outfits have potential liabilities in 7 figures if they screw up, and no indication that they have the financial strength to deal with them.
1639  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is the btc stuck between 13 and 14 USD? on: July 28, 2011, 07:34:01 PM
Suddenly its stopped changing its value like it has been for long time. Whats happening?
Its 15 minutes of fame are over.
1640  Economy / Speculation / Re: Long, slow slide on: July 27, 2011, 07:15:07 PM

Mt. Gox, last 5 weeks. (Again, starting after the Mt. Gox screwup.)

After three weeks of slide and turmoil, we've now had two weeks of modest stability, at $13.50 +- 0.50.  
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