Took them a year to finally admit that this is dead  Who would be crazy enough to invest back into this disaster..they were a one hit wonder. Sorry for every ones losses...just hodl those coins stop investing in these unregulated entities. original investors made 5-6x what they invested- so for them that's 500% return. just everyone after them kind of lost out |
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Jutarul etc
how is dave involved in all this? why has he bailed? does he have anything to do in FC's disappearance?
who holds all the financials in this company? FC? any money left? any orders at all for mass production that were ordered before FC disappeared.
has dave abandoned AM and "closed it down", anyone else have a leadership role besides FC and Dave? anyone who can take the reigns and be a leader for the time being
there are too many things that don't make sense for those that don't understand the internal structure or working of AM.
is the assumption that even if FC is found the company is toast? and seriously, how can a company with so many employees just collapse and not be able to continue with their leader missing. Any statement from the kidnappers yet?
Chinese AM holders, please help everyone out
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the actual surprising part is the lack of DELEGATION that was done at AM. Chain of command exists for a reason. If your general gets killed someone has to know what to do and take control. Fried Cat should have had a plan what would happen if he quits or leaves, a second or third in command, direction, plan B, plan C. that's the actual surprising part. with so much capital on hand and experience the company doesn't need FC to continue - so it should continue to function if the CEO takes a form of leave not collapse.
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wow, good price on AM right now - estimated market cap at about 3 million USD as opposed to over 100+ million in a not so distant past. o man
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BtcLtcNmc,
is it possible to get contact information for their office? to talk to some of their current employees - or to reach out to them directly through weibo, qq and ask for info instead of waiting for 3rd party comments? or is the staff/sales not aware of what the situation is
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It is certainly looking more planned than not.
- Shenzhen office ( Nanshan Coast Building, East Block, 1317 ) has moved closed up "All moved out, only some tables left, all office supplies gone"
- FC disappears
- Mine disappears
- "Another shareholder Fan Dawei phone (186xxxxxxx7) has been shut down !"
I can confirm that Shenzhen office has moved, but as I said in other thread, it doesn't mean that AM is a scammer, maybe they need a bigger office for the new staffs. Sorry I didn't take photo cause there are two cams in the corridor, I don't want to be capture. on 6th I may go to Hong Kong. Perhaps I can check out the Hong Kong office. 謝謝 for your updates. much appreciated since most of the public doesn't know Chinese. So Dong Zhao from Hashratio partner with the factory owner that he contacted in jinagsu. So Dong recommend the evil factory owner to FC. the factory owner is a very shady person and possibly has friedcat locked down somewhere in the basement or possibly worse. that's just insane. perhaps Dong should contact police for some kind of assistance. IF some asshole out there is actually kidnapped/torturing/defrauding friedcat and defrauding AM then I hope China gives that person a firing squad treatment- wishful thinking. |
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i guess we all shuould have contact you to get coins back from mtgox/karpeles! i guess we had no idea it was that easy. if only we contact you in time we'd have 800,000 coins back right?
Normally i manage this privately before it gets public, we got our money back from Karpeles before the scandal and at the first sign of trouble, same thing with PBmining. Now this became public for the choosing of AMHASH and it is more complicated now, it normally takes me from 3 to 6 days to get the money back, now this can take longer, or may be shorter, but i will do it, the difference is for AMHASH because now the reward is out and has to be paid and more people is joining the hunt, as of this moment we have people worth 400BTC MORE willing to join, for a potential total of 650BTC in recovery So, AMHASH: This will have been easier for you to manage when i told you so and was only 250BTC to return to its legal owners. And it will get worse if the proposal of letting the little guys of less than 2BTCs in shares jump in for free in exchange of any little piece of info an promotion of the hunt. perhaps it is in your belief that this is the best way to go about this. but, you may or may not be right. Making threats this early is not going to help in my opinion. the money is either there or not and things will work out one way or another without your threats. i've been scammed plenty on this board and haven't seen a cent. AsicMiner seems like a different breed - give them sometime and hope for the best. |
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i guess we all shuould have contact you to get coins back from mtgox/karpeles! i guess we had no idea it was that easy. if only we contact you in time we'd have 800,000 coins back right?
I'm sure doing absolutely nothing has served you and the rest of the community best. Because when scammers know their actions carry no repercussions, they're stricken with remorse & quickly refund the mark's money. They also learn that krimez don't pay, and never kryme again. i was just asking him to backup his statement! give the fact that his mention of getting anything out of mtgox doesn't lend him any credibility as NOONE got anything out after bankruptcy. - and not sure how his statement would apply before that |
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i guess we all shuould have contact you to get coins back from mtgox/karpeles! i guess we had no idea it was that easy. if only we contact you in time we'd have 800,000 coins back right?
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for the first time - i'm actually worried. hope FC is healthy and well and can come back ASAP and explain things. whatever happened hope it's not the end of AM
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Academic? In my experience they are very smart guys who actually have very few real world skills and therefore insulate themselves within the cloistered walls of academia
They are usually hopeless businessmen
They can also be perennially surprising
Jury is still out on this AM gimrack
They do hold the lions share of interest in this concern
That says a lot to me
Gung hey fat Choy guise...
But we want our red envelope!
this was originally known and from the beginning i think many advised he bring actual people with business skills onboard |
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i'm not an pro analyst by any means and i think mr fried cat already knows what's up
but, i'll throw this out there anyway.
Between bitfury and knc they both have funding upwards of 100 million, their own data centers, immersion cooling and are branching out into other territories.
With the halving coming up in a year, AsicMiner has no time to lose, or they will lose.
their capitalization is not by any means top any longer. doubt they have their own efficient data center.
my best advice is for friedcat to sell some of the bitfountain's equity ASAP and grow like crazy this year. this will be the make it or break it year. perhaps outside investors/advisers would be highly beneficial to him. wish him the best but he needs to take this shit extremely seriously since there literally is no room for error.
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looks like cointerra may be leaving the game
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It was said at the outset of the venture, that monies taken would be used to produce more miners, not paid out in divs.
And this can't be an infinite loop because...? i know paid shills against bitcoins, but who pays you - there is someone paying you 100% certain |
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I am very sure that it was cleared up before - paypal clearly stated that they were not holding any funds of Alpha's. That was just another AT lie.
please show your sources. paypal wouldnt be able to actually "tell" anyone this. You can dig back thru this whole thread for the history of that conversation if you want. From what I recall, it was determined that under no circumstances would paypal have held funds from someone for the period of time alpha claimed. Either way tho, why you would possibly believe AT about having funds held up at paypal, when they have cleared lied continuously, is beyond me, heh... It was a pretty clear point the finger tactic when that coindesk article came out. since they are giving some people paypal refunds it's either coming back from the frozen funds or a bank account that has actual money in it! |
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I am very sure that it was cleared up before - paypal clearly stated that they were not holding any funds of Alpha's. That was just another AT lie.
please show your sources. paypal wouldnt be able to actually "tell" anyone this. |
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Being a shareholder who doesn't even knows how AM miners look....priceless. I hold shares of apple, but I hate using iPhones and have no clue what new ones look like.....priceless. They are very much alike. It's not like the design is being totally different from one generation to another so thank you for your useless and uncalled argument. for someone who doesn't own any shares you see quite involved. priceless? |
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anyone have any new updates regarding this situation with Paypal. i'm getting as sick with paypal as i am with alpha! especially if they are holding their money they should be refunding.
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